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9099 No. 9099 ID: ae87b5
My fellow OPERATORS,

It’s been just about a year since the new administration and moderation team took over Operatorchan, and I am here to tell you that the state of the chan is… stable.

The servers and code ran smoothly all year without too many hiccups, and traffic has remained steady throughout the year with 12-15k unique “visitors” each month, which due to people browsing on their phones probably indicates about 9-12k actual people visiting the site per month. I’ll post some interesting statistics about those people in subsequent posts with some infographics. Our biggest userbases continue to exist in the US, Germany, the UK, Canada, France, and Australia, with a mishmash of Scandinavian and Slavic countries following after and a smattering of South American and Asian countries scattered throughout. On average, any given person visited Operatorchan twice per day and viewed about 6 pages of content.

Financially, there is enough in the bank to pay server costs through February 2017. Domain registration is taken care of for the next 4 years so that’s not a big concern right now. That is all user donated money. The donation drive was a success in that regard, and your generosity with actual money is probably the best indicator that the site continues to be relevant. Romanov promises he will not drop of the face of the earth again and will distribute PBE winter patches to those who wanted them. A big shout out to Mammoth for handcrafting banana mags for the top donators. We will need to do another fundraiser this summer to extend the site’s longevity, and I know I have learned some lessons from the last one about how to perhaps run it a bit better and eliminate some of the uncertainty. Next year I will have the standard donation prizes in hand before we start, and send them out as donations roll in. Romanov is a great guy, but he has a real life like the rest of us and relying on him entirely for the patches maybe wasn’t the best idea.

In terms of outreach effort, Mammoth and myself have been running the opchan facebook page with varying degrees of engagement. I made and sometimes post to an opchan twitter account but twitter is fucking painful. We have 2,000 followers but they are all tea party wankers who don’t retweet, like, or visit opchan stuff. So fuck ‘em. There may be outreach potential on Twitter, but I’m not finding it. If anyone is willing to take on that project, drop me a line. Facebook on the other hand has been somewhat more successful, with 546 people following the page and positive interactions at least sometimes. Overall, for social media I would describe the total results as “meh” - but it does seem to vary according to the effort put in. As an anecdote, one post about CZs resulted in the staff of Laugo Arms in czechland all following the page. That’s the kind of thing I’d like to see happen more frequently, because that’s how to get new blood onto the site. Facebook is another area where more help would be appreciated. If you’re interested in helping post shit to facebook, let me know.

Content-wise, we have had some good threads this year. I saw lots of interesting guns and learned things about them. /n/ is still shit. The zone continues to be the most popular and fastest board by a large margin. I know that part of the reason for that is if you want people to see your thread and respond to it, your best bet is likely /dmz/. I am wondering how we can change that dynamic a little, and the obvious choice is paring down the boards. My pet project of /mu/ still gets traffic, but it’s still somewhat stagnant. Several boards get virtually no traffic, even if we like them in concept. Towards that end, in the next few months I will be crafting a survey to try and figure out what the userbase wants in terms of boards and rules for them. In that survey I will also touch on a few other topics to get some info to inform decision making.

Now, the future. Where is opchan going? Well, right now the answer is pretty much “where it’s always been”. Is that a good thing? I’m not sure. There may be potential here for bigger and better things, but then again there may not be. The way I see it, there are a couple hurdles to expanding the userbase:

1.Tech - We are running on old crappy imageboard code. Pretty much any change breaks it and no one is interested in updating it.

2.Format - The imageboard interface itself is dated and going the way of geocities, angelfire, and AOL. When it comes to gun people, old people don’t understand it (this year we had two random people actually fill out the name, subject, email fields with their real info…. It’s hilarious.), and young people don’t know what to make of it and assume it’s some dinosaur site leftover from the early 2000s.

3.Competition - Standalone forums themselves are on the decline. As setting up a facebook group or subreddit is so simple, there is less motivation to seek out dedicated sites on different subjects. That doesn’t mean this is a good thing, it’s just the reality of what’s happening.

To address these challenges, I propose that as a community we start putting our heads together and thinking of what, if anything, should be changed or updated. I am open to ideas and willing to entertain just about anything discussion-wise, with the caveat that in general as a staff we are short on time and resources for projects, so if you have a great idea chances are the best way for it to move forward is for you to volunteer to implement it.

So there’s that. Other admins and mods feel free to chime in, and the floor is open for questions and comments. May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your souls... er, God bless Operatorchan.
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>> No. 9179 ID: ae87b5
>>103689

No, good ones will be archived and you'll have time to save any other ones that are important to you.
>> No. 9180 ID: ae87b5
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9180
Alright, that's plenty of time for commentary, I'm going to start the process of locking the doomed boards and reviewing them to archive the best stuff. Once I'm done, the boards will stay up for the rest of the week so everyone can peruse them and save content they'd like to keep.
>> No. 9181 ID: ae87b5
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9181
After more consideration I think /v/ should be spared.
>> No. 9182 ID: 4aaaa0
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9182
Or military vehicles in /k/ and civilian stuff in /t/ also works.

- Japanese Type 97 Te Ke tankette destroyed by 96th Infantry Division Okinawa 1945
>> No. 9184 ID: 794d7b
>>103705
Not to be too pedantic but I think that's actually a Type 94 (which does look pretty similar to the Te-Ke, to be fair).
>> No. 9185 ID: 71a0d4
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9185
>>103704
Fuck yeah.
>> No. 9186 ID: 4aaaa0
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9186
>>103707
You may be right. I was posting the caption of the picture. Difficult to tell since it's so smashed.
- Type 94 TK tankette captured at Battle of Okinawa
>> No. 9187 ID: ded164
>>103708

I was swayed by the fact that it's the only thing about the restructure that anyone seriously objected to, across multiple platforms. You can't say I'm a tyrant.
>> No. 9188 ID: 4aaaa0
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9188
>>103712
Oh yeah?
>> No. 9189 ID: 4aaaa0
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9189
Tyrannical Dachshund is subtle, false and treacherous!
>> No. 9190 ID: 4aaaa0
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9190
Drive out the diabolical dachshund!
Join the US Marines and defeat this scourge!
- Teufel Hunden, German Nickname for U.S. Marines : Devil Dog Recruiting Station
>> No. 9191 ID: 4aaaa0
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9191
>> No. 9192 ID: 4aaaa0
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9192
U.S. Marines attached to 2nd Infantry Division in France, WWI.
One Marine has captured a dachshund while the other has captured a badger.
Where normally dachshunds and badgers are natural enemies, tyrannical German dachshunds have apparently formed an alliance with the devious tunneling badgers to fight our boys in the trenches, but we foiled their nefarious plans.
>> No. 9193 ID: 4aaaa0
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9193
U.S. Marine Jesse Goin and his dog in Kwajalein.
>> No. 9194 ID: 4aaaa0
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9194
>> No. 9195 ID: 9723b1
Why is /v/ being deleted? /v/ is objectively better information on military vehicles than we're likely to find on any chan. Same for /s/.

At least archive them...
>> No. 9196 ID: ded164
>>103722

/v/ is safe, read above. /s/ has already been fully archived, every thread with even a shred of useful information has been put in /arch/ or /stem/. Reviewing every thread in /s/ reinforced the decision. So many unanswered questions and dead end threads with one or two replies. Time for it to die.
>> No. 9197 ID: 644af8
>>103725
Just a thought, but why not combine parts of /z/,/st/, and /stem/ into a single "reference" board for...well...reference & nonfiction shit? Entertainment-related things can go in a hybrid /m/,/mu/, /other-parts-of-z/.
>> No. 9198 ID: b89631
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9198
>>103735
I agree with this, it seems good to consolidate /st/ and /stem/ into a new /ref/ or better, just /arch/ (provided it can be extended past 10 pages to hold everything) for archived /k/ and /t/ threads which hold value.

I think we should nuke /sug/. The fact that we're even having this thread on /t/ is indicative of its failure. Board traffic is slow, and its more of a "send the mods a publicish letter" than anything, since no one goes there. Having periodic meta threads on /t/ to solicit donations and bounce ideas off each other works a hell of a lot better, again, as this thread shows.

As far as board software goes, imageboards may be "dated" but the alternative is a phpbb forum which is already done to death, or just being a facebook group which is "Take all my persec" city. Imageboard is fine. The software behind it is fine. If we had the same software as 4chan now does, that would be nice, but its imo not necessary and not causing the hordes to turn away like alt.rec.guns or something.

As far as advertising and growing the base goes, I'd like to note why most of us came here in the first place. 4chan was a shitty place, suffering from constantly going down for hours, and so opchan was created so we wouldn't have to deal with not being able to shittalk other peoples choice in guns for 4 hours. Different phases of shitty moderation, floods of summerfags, etc, also helped, but to be frank those reasons are mostly gone, and even if 4chan decides to drop their /k/ board because moot got bought by bloomberg instead of 2ch, everyone would go to reddit, and vice versa. But other than that, there was the livestream, which a lot of /k/indergardeners tuned into, then followed the giant banner here, like myself, or people who had POSITIVE interactions on kinder/k/ with tripfags like Hotaru, FPoP, Meplat, and Drake and knew they resided here if they wanted more real content.

Trimming back down the boards will be a great first step in revitalization. IMO, we should consolidate further, but lets start with what we're planning now and see if that helps enough. Afterward, IMO, we really need to have a discussion about the duality of /t/ and /dmz/.

As a precursor, I strongly believe a lot of threads happen on /dmz/ which should really happen on /t/, and /dmz/ should be no more than porn/weeaboos/extreme shitposting/image hosting. Driving traffic to a visible board like /t/ would help the accessibility of the site for noobs, its ridiculous to expect people to come on opchan if they see it is dead without realizing theres a super secret hidden board we have 80% of our posts on.
>> No. 9199 ID: ae87b5
>>103735

Maybe later, but not now. The idea is somewhat specific archive boards to help you find the content you want faster. Absent a smart search function I think this is the best for now.

>duality of /t/ and /dmz/

I agree to a certain extent that substantive threads that don't require tits, ponies, or anime should go elsewhere, but I also don't want to spend tons of time moving threads, which btw kusaba x doesn't handle well at all. The risk of losing thread content is real because this software will just drop shit sometimes and then we have to go search in the backups to restore it.
>> No. 9200 ID: ae87b5
>>103736

also as far as the livestream I fully support doing shit like that I just need people to take the lead on doing it.
>> No. 9201 ID: 7eaa65
>>103738
Sure, lets go with your current archive system, it's not too hard to change things later and it's not nearly as big of a thing as consolidating discussion boards. I also agree that it shouldn't be the mods responsibility to move threads around and it would be a ridiculous amount of work and poorly received. We should just encourage people to make the threads in the correct place. I'm curious how bringing back /test/s reset functionality would impact things but I think just a few posts asking people to post in /t/ would be enough.

We definitely should find someone to take the lead on live stream, I'm also too busy with work but I'm more than happy to pitch 50 or so bucks every now and again to facilitate that.
>> No. 9202 ID: 24ed62
>>103745

I think adding a disclaimer to the zone would be reasonable. The archive situation is actually a riff on an idea BTDT mentioned in IRC, so props to him for smart thinking.
>> No. 9203 ID: b89631
>>103745
This is me btw, from my phone, if anyone cares.

>>103747
>deletes every thread on the board
>proposes arhive to prevent good threads from being deleted
Bygones be bygones, but I cant help but lul at the irony.
>> No. 9204 ID: ae87b5
  >>103757
>> No. 9205 ID: 7a4b3d
These new board proposals sound pretty solid (and I have to agree that keeping /v/ was a good move). While in a perfect world, having a bunch of specific boards is great for cultivating discussion of that topic - some of these boards aren't on life-support, they're just dead. While it's not the ideal solution, merging some to get more people posting and talking ain't a bad thing at all.
>> No. 9206 ID: 81e283
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9206
FUCK! A bunch of the boards' locations has been moved on the side bar. All the muscle memory for clicking on them quickly ruined!!!

> inb4 using side bar to navigate
>> No. 9207 ID: bdae0c
>>103774

I know. Christ I was quicker typing it the board in the url bar it was that much of a mind fuck. That said good changes I think; should bear fruit.
>> No. 9208 ID: ae87b5
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9208
>>103774
>> No. 9209 ID: 6372b6
The position of the board letters is messing with me. What's the thought process here?

IMO it should be

[ k / g / v / trade ] [ n / t / vg / m ] [ st / stem / meet / arch ] [ z / sug ]
>> No. 9210 ID: 08f745
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9210
>>103757

Think of it this way.

My past actions, as immature, cold-hearted, or whatever other adjective(s) you may choose to apply, did in fact help get to the point we're at today.

By no means am I claiming responsibility for what's here today, but at the same time let us be totally honest... That past shitty action, combined with others from Swissguy, Jedi, Godver, and myself (among others, just top of my head), helped foster an environment where serv finally wanted to basically wash his hands of this place, and passed it on in whole.

Look at what you have now. The end doesn't justify the means (specifically regarding my own past actions) but things are way better now.

Opchan is in good hands, with people I think are competent at the wheel. The overall team running the show has an intelligent, complete strategy for keeping the place tenable, and are trying to make things better continually. This restructuring is just one step towards keeping things moving, interesting, engaging, and overall worthwhile to return here time and again.

Having said that, I actually ventured forth a concept for a significantly larger post archival plan, as there ARE diamond threads that happen, and should be saved.
>> No. 9211 ID: 8d1b58
>>103781

I think

[ k / g / v / st ] [ n / t / vg / m ] [meet / stem / trade / arch ] [ z / sug ]

would tingle my 'tism better. Keep all the weapons/gear boards in more or less one section, and the bullshitting boards in the others.
>> No. 9212 ID: ae87b5
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9212
the thought process is however I felt like combining them last night during commercial breaks of Vikings. I feel like there are probably infinite different preferences on how the boards should be listed, so it's probably wise to wait and see how you acclimate. Any time a UI changes people are disgruntled for a bit so you have to wait for things to settle down before you make secondary changes.
>> No. 9213 ID: 9723b1
>>103725
Thank Crom.

>>103784
I do agree that as it is it seems random, but your post is only ordered by numbers of each group, number of letters per name in group and so on. My autism is based on topic.

[k/g/v/st/stem] [n/vg/m] [t/meet/trade] [z/sug/arch]

First grouping is tech, second is media, third is userbase interaction, fourth is basic board infrastructure like file sharing and feedback.
>> No. 9214 ID: 8d1b58
>>103787
Not quite. While it did work out that way (bonus 'tism points lol) I grouped them by topic.

[Equipment] [Discussion] [Utility] and [Meta]

Although I do like the placement you have on /stem/ and /arch/

I'll brain out another suggestion tonight, when I have time.
>> No. 9215 ID: 369bd6
I agree with the comments on the organization of the navigation bars. Maybe it is just personal preference but I always consider Operator Chan essentially a /k/ board. As such, classifying anything not directly related to weapons, military ect as "Main", bothers me a bit. I think a [Main] featuring anything that would have otherwise fit into a /k/ board on any other chan, and [General] being everything else that fills out Operator Chan. The Archives and Utilities section is fine.
>> No. 9216 ID: ae87b5
I really don't have a preference so however you want to do it is fine with me
>> No. 9217 ID: 6372b6
Currently making a bit of an intro video for OPchan. Kinda mixing stuff in, if anyone wants to sprinkle their flavor on it I'm all for it. So pictures and snippets of video is welcome, email in the field.

I'll post it here as an unlisted video, if you guys approve I'll put it public and you will all be able to post it where you want.
>> No. 9218 ID: ae87b5
>>103811

for still images the guns of opchan thread is a goldmine
>> No. 9219 ID: ae87b5
>>103811

http://www.operatorchan.org/arch/res/4190.html
>> No. 9220 ID: ae87b5
annnnd

http://www.operatorchan.org/arch/res/2711.html
>> No. 9221 ID: ebb4ba
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9221
>getting rid of /pasta/
/dmz/ is just going to turn into pasta palace
>> No. 9222 ID: 6372b6
>>103812
>>103813
>>103814
Of course, but I also mean any kind of shenanigan people here get up to.
>> No. 9223 ID: ae87b5
>>103817

no one ever fucking posted in /pasta/ so I'm not too worried.
>> No. 9224 ID: 6372b6
>>103821
Damn fucking shame. I'm still looking for the Peter Cottontail story, Meplat's (I think it was him) rant on metrique units, the original "shooting girl scouts bringing cookies", and that time Maxi posted a story of when he was CCW'ing and the guy he took home wasn't happy when he found out.

Amongst a few. It boggles the mind how simple text can be so hard to find on the internet.

Anyone have that one pasta about some guy being high as fuck and typing about necronomic energies and shit? There's results in Google but the page with the full text is offline, all I can get is "the open fields of grainy lakes who with their existential lost presence pave the way to create "the eternal mold" or SKIMPA".
>> No. 9225 ID: 6372b6
>>103811
>>103812
>>103813
>>103814
Starting a thread in /m/ for this as the thread here isn't exactly suitable.

OPchan marketing over there
http://www.operatorchan.org/m/res/33824.html
get in here faggets
>> No. 9226 ID: 2b7fbb
So, with that - I am going to archive this thread soon.
>> No. 9227 ID: b89631
>>103783
Appreciate the post, but like I said, bygones are bygones. I hold nothing against anyone for what happened before. Just poking a little fun, you're an alright guy and I hope you stick around tbh.

As for the archival strategy you put forth, I'm with you there, as well as the rest of your post re state of the chan.
>> No. 9228 ID: 793e55
So for any new meetups that we are trying to organize, do we just post in /t/ now?
>> No. 9229 ID: 53d758
>>103889

Yep
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