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17932 No. 17932 ID: 8abb7b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Why were Eastern Bloc helmets so retarded?
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>> No. 18203 ID: da39fa
>>18193
They're actually based on Prussian uniforms, which is what the SS uniforms were based on. Simpletons never look past the Nazi use to see the true origin of that design.
>> No. 18358 ID: 25e321
>>17932
they were ballistically superior to the former german helmet. the east germany government also wanted to keep german design but not offend the soviets by using the m40 line of stahlhelms.

new fag btw. from 4chan.
>> No. 18363 ID: a0a439
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18363
Very similar wreath with the three acorns on each side.
>> No. 18364 ID: a0a439
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18364
East German Air Force cockade compared to Wehrmacht Luftwaffe cockade
>> No. 18372 ID: 854fcf
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18372
Because they cared to design and strengthen some new nuanced features, instead of staying with the two-can buckets the US kept using until they had the PASGT.

And oh, the M56 is a pre-war german design.


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18109 No. 18109 ID: f9bf1b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I really gotta know which camo is operator, cause range operating, and hunting. Thanks, even though this is /k/, well thanks if you say it /k/ have a good time.
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>> No. 18126 ID: addd7a
Rhodesian Bushwar Era cammo. With counter insurgency shorts.

This is the most OPERATOR of cammo's. Anyone who argues is a Floppy or Commie Sypathiser.
>> No. 18152 ID: 960488
>>18122
holy fuck I didn't even see the CADPAT for a while. I was so focused on the bunny and then the others.

I got myself some surplus woodland camo (which are supposedly even the kind that soldiers wear for possible chemical attack prone areas, but I have my doubts) since I live in the Puget Sound. Seemed closest to what I've noticed bumbling through the woods, and I've never bought camo before so...*gestures widely*
>> No. 18155 ID: 2c9a4e
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18155
>>18152
Note also that CADPAT is darker than most of the others, and the gentleman wearing it is standing in front of what appears to be a partially shadowed depression in the ground. If he were standing ten feet to the right or left he'd stand out almost as badly as the guy in the repro tiger stripe. But also remember that any camouflage pattern printed on cloth is going to be a compromise.

Modern reproduction tiger stripe cammies from companies like Rothco seem generally to be printed with the same four colors as M81 Woodland, and have much too much black in them, plus shades of brown and dark olive drab that are way, way too dark. Look at Bat Guano's posts, >>18110 and >>18111, for images of what real actual period tiger stripe cammies actually looked like. The current copies mostly seem to be trying to shrink the original pattern by 50% or more (why? I don't know, but look at catalogs and note that the pictures of the repro gear show a much smaller, finer, denser pattern of skinnier black horizontal stripes than the originals). Between the smaller scale pattern elements and the much darker colors, trying to reproduce that pattern with the four colors of M81 Woodland results in a pattern that "blobs out" into muddy brownish greenish almost-black from more than fifty meters away, as you see in the picture. It could be much worse but there are better patterns out there.

If they were going to redesign the pattern anyway they might as well have put more khaki in it--well, really, the lightest color in some newly printed M81 Woodland, the "tan," is almost exactly the same shade as some companies' "coyote brown" or "flat dark earth," and the brown and green are nearly black. To work with the four colors from Woodland, it needs wider stripes of tan around the black stripes, for more of a disruptive effect. It might work better with the four colors from Green Dominant ERDL, or even from DPM, with its lighter green and khaki providing more contrast and breaking up the outline a bit better.

And yes, the biome in which you will use it is the determining factor. UCP only works well in very specific environments, for example.

I am given to understand, if I may be slightly more serious, that various of the US military's spec-ops units have been for the past decade or longer been using uniforms and web gear made in various civvie deer-hunting patterns for specific circumstances and specific environments. They have used various patterns created by Mossy Oak, Realtree, and
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>> No. 18359 ID: 2b6682
Night Desert Camo. /thread
>> No. 18369 ID: 0f21ae
  >>18126


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18189 No. 18189 ID: 8db00f hide watch quickreply [Reply]
I want flannel lined 5.11 pants. But can't find them in by size.

So I want to find separate flannel pants as a liner for my usual 5.11.
Does something opchan-recomended flannel pants ever exist? Maybe woolrich?
>> No. 18191 ID: 044fd0
I have a few pairs of fleece-lined pants I got at Walmart a few years back, they seem to have held up well. As for a separate liner I'd recommend the Polartec milsurp bibs:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/U-S-MILITARY-POLARTEC-BLACK-FLEECE-COLD-WEATHER-OVERALLS-MEDIUM-S-R/152283108769?hash=item2374c7d5a1:g:TfIAAOSw4shYA9yz
>> No. 18192 ID: 044fd0
>>18191

*Wrangler fleece-lined pants.
>> No. 18317 ID: eb9ef4
buy once cry once OP
https://www.duluthtrading.com/men/pants/lined-pants/
>> No. 18320 ID: 143856
>>18317
Lol. Pants is not thing that you can really buy once.
>> No. 18360 ID: 0d01d8
Mitten State here.

When I am going to be spending an extended period of time outdoors in cold weather, I do layers.

Inner layer: skivvies and t-shirt, of course.

Over that, double layer thermal suit--spandex shirt and pants over the skivvies and shirt, insulated thermals over those.

Depending on how much time I'm going to be spending outdoors, I may wear a pair of sweatpants over that, and over THAT I put on whichever pair of clean cargo pants is up next in the rotation, usually black because I used to work for a company where black cargo pants were mandated by the dress code. A heavy lined flannel shirt tops it off, maybe with a sweater under it. Oh, and an M65 field jacket. And yes, this is bulky enough to require some thought to be put into the sizes as you put them on.

I worry a lot more about good wool socks--not cotton, not synthetic, REAL WOOL--than what kind of pants to buy if I'm going to be out in ankle-deep slush for hours. Insulated real leather gloves are always appropriate in a state where most years it snows from October to April, too.

A balaclava is good if you are not going to have to deal with minimum-wage security types who get to sit in heated guard shacks and whose "training" tells them that having your face covered (outdoors in -15 F. temperatures and high winds) means you're some kind of "turrorist."


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17348 No. 17348 ID: dda126 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGNtLvAshE
>> No. 17349 ID: 9723b1
"Moderate" muslims don't even have the decency to not condone terrorist actions.
>> No. 18354 ID: c0122e
They literally celebrate on Facebook whenever their religion attacks humans


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18233 No. 18233 ID: cb7d24 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Going to the gym in my complex just now, I saw an elderly gentleman walking his dog. He was OCing a pistol in such a fashion that I'm not sure I was seeing it right. I had to get closer.

He had a slim leather holster, barrel sticking out, trigger guard barely covered, obviously meant as a concealed owb holster. The gentleman had it set up as a crossdraw holster.

Are you getting the image? It's a skinny fucking swatch of leather with minimal coverage with THE GRIP FACING OUT FOR ANY WHO WISHES TO SNATCH IT!

>"P-pardon me sir? I'm afraid I must speak."
I point.
>"That is a very poor setup."
>"Well, I like it."
And on he walked.

What crazy bullshit have you seen?
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>> No. 18275 ID: 8b071f
>>18238
shoulder harnesses are popular with helicopter pilots if they aren't using a chest holster on a survival vest.
>> No. 18291 ID: 5c716c
>>18233

I'm a platoon leader now. One of my new guys who just moved from NG to active duty had a freaking e-tool Molle'd to his IOTV.
>> No. 18304 ID: 6348f6
>>18233
>sailors installing zip ties onto the quick pull release on their carrier so that they wont loose their armor "if it snags"
>fails to realize that the quick pull will not work as intended if the wearer falls into the water

I guess people running molle incorrectly (just pulling it through one pass without weaving it) because "b-b-but weaving it is hard"
>> No. 18321 ID: 18509a
>>18304
Tactically sink to the bottom so your team doesn't waste resources rescuing you.
>> No. 18351 ID: 66d919
A saw zipties sticking out of a guy's shirt. He used them as makeshift loops for an IWB holster. Wouldn't be a bad idea if he at least cut the ends off and used thick zip ties.


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18121 No. 18121 ID: 6c91d5 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Has anyone succeeded in sourcing & pricing a XX1340 or XX1211 gen-1 triple cascade tube for a Fero-Z51 (Orion 80) scope?
>> No. 18125 ID: f5c3ed
All I could find was this Chinese site:
http://www.hioptic.com/night-vision-equipment/IIT-image-intensifier-tubes/1_generation_image_intensifier.htm

I can't say I'm too familiar with anything beyond PVS-7s and 14s unfortunately.

Good luck!
>> No. 18127 ID: 6c91d5
>>18125
Thank you, i'll check them out.
>> No. 18330 ID: 9a7482
>>18127
2 year bump.

Fyi, the XX1211's are long gone. Hioptic sells the XX1340's for $2285 USD.


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18319 No. 18319 ID: f3ae61 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Anyone have any experience with the Gen 4 Mayflower UW Chest Rigs and the AK74 platform. Ive heard the pouches are too tight for anything but STANAGs but I would like some input other than hear-say.


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18311 No. 18311 ID: 21d624 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Are there any small packs with a similar form factor to the Haley Strategic Flatpack, but aren't $140?
>> No. 18312 ID: f5c3ed
Find a used one, or a Chinese or Russian made copy on eBay.


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18289 No. 18289 ID: 536768 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
PFO: my guns

Hey guys, so I'm in search for a new sling for
my HK416 with an magpul MOE butstock, I'm looking for a one/two point sling that's suitable with the moe buttstock, preferably in black, od/RG or coyote brown.

Thanks for y'alls help oper8rS
>> No. 18299 ID: 6348f6
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>>18289
magpul makes a specific multi use sling with clips that can be rearranged. pic related available in multi colors and tactical black

I hate everything that is bungee type slings, so some of the blue force gear is not my cup of tea. some of their other models are solid and are worth looking into.

I also try to avoid anything where you need to push the two sides apart like a keyring to attach the sling to the gun, since I have had the clips bend/snag and not work so well during operations.

if you feel really hipster, get a 3 point sling (mounts like a 2 point, rides like a 1)

it also depends if you have a QD point on your sling, then you need to get a specific type of sling.
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When I posted about the sling, I forgot that you said you were using a magpul MOE buttstock. if you don't have a rear sling mount, or a QD plate like pic related installed, then you will have limited options. there are after market parts you can install on the rear stock/ buffer tube extension for AR15 type rifles

blue force gear makes an AK sling with a mount that is just a loop that can be put on a variety of guns for 1 point retention IIRC


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17855 No. 17855 ID: eefa98 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Caffeine gum, mints, candy, bars, supplements...
Has anyone tried this stuff, or do you just keep it simple with caffeinated drinks like coffee, tea, and Mountain Dew?
Which are the best for the least amount of money?
I used Xylish and Black Black caffeine gum from Japan, but I discovered a stick only contains 5mg of caffeine. Jolt gum contains 45mg of caffeine per piece, plus guarana & ginseng - and two pieces of the gum amounts to the same caffeine as an average cup of coffee.

Examining the website http://www.caffeineinformer.com/caffeine-in-candy it seems the most caffeine in a gum is LiveWire Energy Chews, small 6 gram chews available in several flavors and varieties with 90 to 120mg of caffeine per chew. Military Energy Gum (formerly Stay Alert Gum) is a highly caffeinated chewing gum containing 100mg of caffeine per piece. It is marketed to the US Military but is also available to the general public. Amazon sells 24-pack boxes (5 pieces per pack or 120 pieces total) for $25 to $28.
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>> No. 17927 ID: 0064e9
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>>17926
The Military Energy Gum (MEG) spearmint flavor tastes... REVOLTING! After a minute or so, the taste gets even worse. The cinnamon flavor is not so bad, but still horrible. This is gum; those cretins can make it taste great. Did they make it taste like garbage so people would not chew up a lot and overdose on caffeine? You really have to chew it with regular gum to make it palatable. Did I get bad batches?

Black-Black caffeine gum from Japan has a strong menthol and peppermint taste (but only 5 mg per piece). It taste like chewing an Altoids. It actually clears your sinuses! As I stated before, I used it and Xylish to stay awake in boring classes and in long road trips. Keep chewing a fresh stick or piece of gum every hour when the effects start to wane.

Another good tip for staying awake for long road trips is to listen to radio plays, like Dragnet (1949-1957 377 episodes), audio books, radio Shakespeare plays, or mystery dramas (but they have to be interesting to you to keep your attention). You have to pay attention to what is being said and described, but you are not visually distracted in doing this.
>> No. 17928 ID: f11f4d
>>17927
Dunno. I always hate spearimint no matter what it is so I've never tried it. That said, the flavor quality control is hilariously bad with this gum. In addition to the flavor mixing I mentioned (which should only show up in 1-2 packs out of a box), the strength of the flavor can vary quite a lot.
I get the blue "normal mint" is basically mint+the bitterness from concentrated caffeine. I actually like the bitterness.

Funny you mention Black-Black, I actually ordered some a week ago and it's headed my way. It's my absolute favorite gum.
>> No. 17959 ID: 5a1acb
>>17927
The bitterness might be intentional as the bitter taste can be a bit of an eye opener for a lot of people. This is why my go to is Red Bull: it's got enough bitter to wake me up, without being terribly unpleasant.
>> No. 17983 ID: 9d8092
Cold for easy. Methylphenidate for medium. Dextroamphetamine to make hard/grueling easy.
>> No. 18303 ID: 6348f6
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18303
>>17855
a bunch of people at my unit tried this to try to stop using dip, mixed reviews depending on flavor, basically dip packets, except instead of tobacco, it is just coffee grounds, so you still get a caffeine buzz

also
>where to buy buy banned caffeine inhalers


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