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17930 No. 17930 ID: 47660b hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Snek
>> No. 17931 ID: 95e359
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I have actually started cruising kinder/k/ quite a bit to keep up with the patches being produces. Some of them are really god damn neat-o.
Forgive the animu.
Also here's a pastebin of the stores if you would like to browse the numerous stores. Woodptach, Crimson, and Skinwalker are of particular interest IMO.
http://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD


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17917 No. 17917 ID: 854024 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Dear Operators,

stupid fucking question to those who might have hands-on experience:

will this dropleg magazine panel: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eagle-Industries-UMP-3-Mag-Drop-Leg-Black-Duty-Pouch-SWAT-Police-FBI-LE-SMG-/152164899367?hash=item236dbc1a27:g:cD0AAOSwl-FXNMrh

hold MP5 magazines SECURELY? or due to larger size of UMP45 magazines the MP5 mags might just slip out under the loose flap (and most likely will)?
>> No. 17919 ID: 5fdcaa
I own the Eagle industries MP5 .40 3 mag drop leg pouch, it does hold the 9mm 33rd
Glock magazines securely.


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17882 No. 17882 ID: a28495 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Ok,

For practical purposes as a private citizen, would it be worth paying the extra money for Ceramic Level III armor or to get the Lightweight AR500 Level III+ with Pacxon double-coat? A lot of people bitch about frag/spalling but I've yet to see a single documented instance where AR500 with PaxCon base coat plus build up failed to contain fragmentation.
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>> No. 17892 ID: bd9939
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If you're uncomfortable with it, I totally get it and appreciate your focus of more realistic threat rounds (m193,m855,m855a1 and m80 ball vs fucking AP .30-06). But most destructive testing on quality level IV plates (highcom, midwest armor, paraclete, etc) ends up with them taking multiple hits of 5.56 and 7.62 with no penetration and survivable back face deformation. Keep in mind why you're buying these things. Get something you are actually going to be able to keep on all day if needed. You are legitimately looking at lugging around 18+ pounds of steel while still having only front and back torso protection. My plates are "only" 13ish pounds and I still hate them. If you think you can deal, then cool beans.

I would and did choose to save weight buy going with still heavy 6.3 pound level IV highcom guardians for around $300. At the time I was going to order some spartan armor steel which is supposed to be superior to AR500, but midwest armor had a sale. Following the "must have" trend on arfcom, I bought a retarded Shellback Banshee carrier and suffered practicing in that monstrosity for a couple years before realizing I had equipped myself wrong as a civilian (or as anyone, because that is a terrible plate carrier simply due to the shoulder design). I realized I was far better off with a much lower profile loadout that was concealable under an overshirt in a pinch, but scaleable to be able to hold it's own when needed at least in conjunction with a supplementary chest rig or direct to armor platform. After some research I settled on a Ferro Concepts Slickster from the great white north and it is absolutely perfect for my needs. Highly recommend.

That being said, if I were starting over again, I would save every penny to buy lighter "3+" manufacturer rated plates. I have been equipping my wife with the most cutting edge, but simplified shit I can afford from gear to weapon so that she'll actually be able and willing to practice with it, keep up with me and maybe even back me up a little bit. I bought her some 4.5 pound target man branded ceramic spectra hybrids and they're absolutely amazing. Trying them out for myself I felt like Ned Flanders wearing nothing at all. I'll be saving a few months here to get my own set and delegate my level IV's as a vehicle set.

You see plates identical in specs to these under a few names including Grey Ghost Gear, but I believe they are just rebrands from one armor manufacturer. This was the cheapest set I could find that wasn't coming from a sketch looking place.
https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/level-iii-medium-9-25-x-12-5-ceramic-spectra-lightweight-advanced-set-of-two/


The practice of wearing armor only waned with the proliferation of firearms
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>> No. 17911 ID: 83051c
I've got some SAPI plates I picked up from a surplus store outside JBLM a few years ago I've been meaning to replace and suppliment with some soft stuff. Been looking at these and looks like it might be what you're looking for as well.

http://www.bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-3-PLUS-Ceramic.html
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>>17911
Proceed with caution with those. I desperately wanted them to be good because they're almost half the cost of competitive weight/rating, but none of this "independently lab verified" stuff has ever actually been shown on those particular plates, only on the crappy steel stuff. They're stuff is not listed on the NIJ website either. In fact I can't even find any "youtube testing" they make fun of on those actual plates.

A lot of stuff the owner says is gibberish and raises a few flags.
>> No. 17914 ID: 6ca38e
>>17913
If you contacted Armour Wear, the company that supplies Bulletproofme with those particular plates, you could have the certification information sent to you. But yeah, only their IIIA stuff is listed on the NIJ compliance site. Might be because that's the only product they've submitted for any government contracts or something? I dunno. But if you got the information, you could find out what lab did the testing and make a call based on that.

Bulletproofme is one of the oldest sites on the internet that has sold armor to civis, though. I have to imagine that they can't have stayed in business so long while making false claims as to the proofing of their products.

In any case, you make a good point. Researching what you plan to buy is never a bad move.
>> No. 17915 ID: 0b17af
Dude just go on eBay and pick up some plates. I just bought 4 ceramic plates for $330 shipped. Shop around for a while. You might be surprised at what you find on there.


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16251 No. 16251 ID: 7443a9 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Sup guys,

So one of the things I like to do is about once or twice a year is buy myself something nice...something pricey. I decided that this year is would be a watch. What I wanted was a basic manually wound mechanical watch. I spent a couple of months researching and finally decided on buying a Weiss Watch Co. Field Watch. I was going go with the slightly cheaper Hamilton field watch that fit the same criteria but I decided I wanted to help out the small American business more and I liked the Weiss's dial better.

The good:
Higher quality finish than I was expecting. Most pics online are of his first pieces and while he hasn't changed anything major in the design he has come a LONG way in the finishing of the watch.
The sapphire front and back. Not only are they super scratch resistant but being able to see the mechanism is pretty cool.
The weight is also something to comment on. For the size of this watch (42mm) it is light on my wrist.
Lastly while it comes close it is not too big for me to wear like most 42mm watches.

The bad:
No hacking seconds. I'm not sure you can actually call this a real field watch without that capability. On a TAC mission you HAVE to be within +/- 30seconds of your L-Hour or you can get yourself or other people killed. Not that we use wrist watches for timing that nowadays but I would have liked to actually do a time hack next brief I was in for the lulz. I guess for most people today it's a non issue but really it would be nice for historical accuracy.

The neutral:
He calls the movement the "Caliber 1001". I feel this is a bit dishonest. The movement is a ETA UNITAS 6497 that he disassembles, polishes, etches, and "modifies" (not that I can find what that entails anywhere. But I honestly don't care enough to ask) before reassembling & regulating. I think he should hold off on the naming before he reaches his stated goal of making his own movements.
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It wears equally nice on a NATO as well. I plan on eventually getting the Sinn bracelet or a deployment clasp rubber.
>> No. 17418 ID: 818111
My Stocker and Yale "mickey mouse" watch died.

Had it since tech. Who can get it working? Tritium is long dead, if that matters.
>> No. 17422 ID: bec165
>>17418

Any competent watch maker should be able to help you out.
>> No. 17423 ID: f87148
>>17388

Fuck me, I could look at automatics' asses all damn day.

I just got a Seiko 5 about six months ago, and for ~$70, I couldn't be happier. I'll post photos when I get a halfway decent camera.
>> No. 17912 ID: 1d4d8c
>>16251
What band is that?


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17894 No. 17894 ID: 4c768d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Any ideas what he has attached to his under barrel?
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>> No. 17898 ID: c5dfe3
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The first version of the People Sniffer was the XM-2 personnel detector man-pack (also known as the E63 man-pack personnel detector). The XM-2 consisted of a backpack-mounted sensor, coupled with an air intake tube mounted on the end of a M16 rifle. Deployed during 1967, reports are that the XM-2 was often a bit too sensitive, and would only pick up the sweat odors of its user. This, coupled with the rather loud “ticka-ticka-ticka” noise that sensor made while in use rather gave the whole game away. Understandably, troops were uncomfortable carrying a heavy noisemaker into an ambush zone. So the XM-2 man-portable system gave way to the much more powerful XM-3 airborne platform, normally mounted on a helicopter. The XM-3 delivered much better results, although the Viet Cong eventually learned ways to deceive the device’s ability to detect sweat, urine and campfire smoke.

If you can find an XM-2 “personnel detector” out there somewhere, it will make a great accessory for your vintage M16A1 rifle—granted you can find one of those.
>> No. 17899 ID: c5dfe3
  U.S. soldier with E63 personnel detector, receives maintenance assistance from another soldier in the field. https://youtu.be/ZdHyKPTHgVs

A US Army 1st Air Cavalry Division soldier equipped with an E63 personnel detector manpack, advances through a jungle area during training in Ankhe, South Vietnam. He signals to his buddy, that his E63 is malfunctioning. He assumes an alert defensive posture, as his buddy opens the manpack and checks its internal components. Interior view of the E63 shows air transport fan and chemicals. Location: Ankhe South Vietnam. Date: February 1, 1967.
>> No. 17900 ID: c5dfe3
  US Army 1st Air Cavalry Division soldier with an E63 personnel detector, in Ankhe, South Vietnam. https://youtu.be/4kGpf9W5s3c

A US 1st Air Cavalry Division soldier equipped with an E63 (XM-2) personnel detector manpack. The E63 intake tube is mounted to the barrel of his M-16 rifle and a signal cord runs from the backpack to a speaker under his helmet. The soldier advances slowly through an area of heavy brush, during training in Ankhe, South Vietnam. Another soldier moves in the background. Location: Ankhe South Vietnam. Date: January 31, 1966.
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I prefer this Vietnam War-era personnel detector.
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Inexpensive to produce, but the training costs are high.


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17838 No. 17838 ID: 6342c8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
You are in a wrong neighborhood, Nigga
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>> No. 17842 ID: 6342c8
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17842
More tacticool for god of tacticool
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Simple grunts ain't look that fancy
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Food grunting.

Note ODKB desert digicamo.
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More combat engineers.
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>>17840
>>17842
>collimating NV optic with non-adjustable width eyepieces

Not exactly the best design


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  Rations!
What's good? What's bad? What's easy to make yourself?
I chanced upon videos of this guy, Steve1989 MREinfo, who tastes and reviews military rations, from old survival food packs from WW2, C-rats from the Vietnam War and modern MREs from around the world.

This Norwegian reindeer stew ration got some terrific marks. Even the instant coffee, toffee bars and chocolate were amazingly good.
2016 Norwegian Arctic Field Ration Reindeer Casserole Game Stew MRE Review Military https://youtu.be/7fmLlkfGQ_0
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A leaky can of sliced pork cooked with juices 36+ years old? Don't risk it!
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>> No. 17854 ID: eefa98
  1993 Frozen For 15 years Preserved MRE Pork Rice & BBQ Sauce Ration Pack US Military Food Review https://youtu.be/PiErAgbwH3Q
Howdy, folks! This time we got a Pork & Rice W/ BBQ Sauce MRE from 1993 that has been frozen for the last 15 years (Actually just talked to Jerry, the dude I got 'em from and he told me up to 20 years) and this experiment was a 100% success! This thing looks and tastes like it was made last year! Even the applesauce was in perfect shape! Absolutely amazing MRE review for that reason alone and totally worth watching, you won't be disappointed.


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17752 No. 17752 ID: 1e7323 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Reading a little about Russian forces and found they abandoned footwraps in the late 2000's[1]. I found that a little surprising so I looked up why. Is it crazy to use a footwrap in lieu of modern socks for thinks like hiking and camping? Did the Russians hold on to it for traditions sake or are us spoiled westerners with our fancy industry missing out?

Pros[2]:
- They are easy to wash and they dry quickly
- One universal "size" fits the foot of any adult human
- They can be disinfected by boiling and ironing without suffering any damage.
- There is no need to search for a mate to form a pair.
- They can be easily fabricated in the field from most any material at hand.
- They can continue to be safely used after localized wear by simply shifting to an area without holes or tears.
- They are extremely durable, especially when fabricated from wool or felt.

Cons:
- Can cause blisters
- Socks are cheap

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>> No. 17821 ID: 044fd0
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>>17819

When I'm camping I'll often take a GI wool blanket, fold the narrow end down about 6 or 8 inches or so to form a collar and fasten it at the neck with a large safety pin. I find this quite cozy.

Alternatively you could find yourself an Afghan Patu.
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>>17819
I feel you. Sometimes I wish I could dress more like pic related.

Capes could make a comeback. The modern wardrobe is just designed for fashion anyways, often at the cost of function and comfort. Superheros and medieval fantasy are popular these days.

Look at jeans, they're inferior to other options in nearly every aspect. They're heavy, sponge like, restrictive, average to high in cost, even the pockets suck to use.

Maybe the sock is better than the foot wrap, but I'm sure we make some functionally poor choices else where. If you still think jeans are great, try on a pair of high heels.
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For winter camping I've sewn a full on cloak out of old wool blankets. When it's 5 degrees and you're sleeping in the middle of the woods, who really gives a crap how you're dressed? It's heavy, sure, but so much dead air. Like small swords and capes, they aren't any less effective, just less... socially acceptable.
>> No. 17834 ID: fb3bdd
>>17820
You can't cut a main in twain with a smallsword!
>> No. 17890 ID: 5556d0
>>17834
Pox to that. Nary a need to have a man cloven in twide whenas smallsword thro his offal.

I wonder how many litfags that mess will piss off. Probably all of them.


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17379 No. 17379 ID: 244c85 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
How much do TAD Anoraks run for these days? I know they're basically impossible to find, and I image the wear on it would make it kinda not worth the cash.

Didn't they go for like less than a hundred though at the time?
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>> No. 17424 ID: cad48c
I've got a couple of TAD items and TBH neither have impressed me overmuch. The fleece gets cut through by a breeze, and the hardshell just hasn't held up well at all. I've had to glue the fucker back together and it's managed to start pilling up at contact points. I expected to have to re-apply DWR a few times, but thought it'd be pretty bombproof otherwise given the price.
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Knockoff jacket came in last week. Wore it camping, I'll post more photos later.
>> No. 17443 ID: 0fa6d7
>>17425

I'd be interested in knowing which knockoffs are good & which aren't.
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>>17443
This was the one I bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261471617783?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=560812945198&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I wear an XL, bought the 3XL because lolAsian sizes and it fits me perfectly.
>> No. 17822 ID: 1b69e9
>>17381

Pretty much this. They have a huge sale going on this weekend and while I was browsing their site the only product that I think commands its price point is their stealth hoodie LT since no one else makes a tacticool jacket in c_change which is alot more breathable than goretex. For everything else Id rather spend my money on arc'teryx, cause deadbird shit is legit high quality.


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17741 No. 17741 ID: 090689 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Let's talk CBRN equipment.
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You start. ;)
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>>17741
is this still top of the line or have we advanced again that i did not know about?
http://www.galls.com/cgi/CGBCSTYL?PMSTYL=TE057
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There was a really good thread on this back in the day. Think it was under outdoor/survival sadly. Long thread short, detection was the hardest part. Then followed by maintaining a decontamination/clean room.

Makes me wonder, in this age of worrying about flus, ebola, nuclear metldowns, dirty bombs, etc. (Sorry NSA) Where's our detection equipment? Sure, you can buy a gas mask, even a hazmat suit with it's own air supply. Unless you're intentionally going to expose yourself to danger or attending a rave. How would you know ahead of time to bring, or wear this gear?

Is there anything available to the public to detect these invisible threats?
>> No. 17818 ID: 044fd0
  >>17817

Geiger counters, survey meters and dosimeters are a dime a dozen. The Gamma Scout seems to be quite popular.

As for detecting chemical and biological threats there's probably litmus paper type detectors available but I don't know how useful such a thing would be without protective kit and atropine.


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