I feel very stupid for having to ask this but I can use my brain and figure out what the hell this thing is called.

The elastic band found on some gear to help secure the straps in place. What is it called (if it has a fancy a name) and can I buy them pre-made? I know I could make them fairly simply but I don't have a sewing machine and I hate sewing by hand.

Sorry for such a stupid question. Thanks in advance.

Hey guys, need some quick backpack advice.

On opchan's recommendation I bought this bag (LA Police Gear 3-Day) a few years ago. It's served me well. Through grad school it would take a full load of laptop+books with no problems, and the only failure I ever had with mine was one of the male clips breaking because of my own misuse.

But its been a while now, and the canvas is starting to wear thin, so before it totally goes I'm in the market for a new bag.

LA Police Gear has the exact same bag going for only 29 bucks, but I wondered if you guys had any newer recommendations at the same price point. A littler smaller would be better as well, because this is too big for me now that I don't need to haul schoolbooks, but it should still be able to carry a full-size laptop.

Any new stuff you'd recommend? Or should I just go with what I know, again? Thanks operators.

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18023 17/03/02(Thu)07:08 No. 18027 ID: e6ec95 >>18026 i never see knock-off is no go because in the good-old days even through those knock-off could be quite decent quality for their price [beside the fuck-you-copyright stuff] but nowadays those knock-off's knock-off is flooded into the market which is BAD,REALLY BAD and if the bag are for serious business I will just tell you not EVEN thinking about that but the other hand WHY NOT?

>>	18023 17/03/02(Thu)07:14 No. 18028 ID: e6ec95 if in that kind of budget I maybe try Alice surplus backpack [but costs a lots more form 50 to 80 bucks] but at least there are tough as nail what's the purpose for you backpack? for better advice

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OPERATOR 17/03/02(Thu)08:45 No. 18029 ID: f35315 >>18021 >>18025 For your budget, I would recommend a generic Maxpedition Falcon clone; however, even most of the clones are out of your budget, even the trashiest ones. But, there is one with excellent quality around, that _almost_ fits within your budget: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-assault-pack-mk-iii/34400 The Varusteleka Särmä clone of the Falcon. This is probably the best choice to go for with your budget.

>>	OPERATOR 17/03/04(Sat)02:20 No. 18030 ID: 3a0e10 Lapg atlas 12hr fit your laptop?

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OPERATOR 17/03/08(Wed)18:29 No. 18033 ID: 407f66 File 148902659122.png - (1.32MB , 1656x632 , 12386zippers.png ) [Pic related] is the first, last, and only thing you should be looking at when choosing a backpack. I own two of these: https://www.amazon.com/US-Military-Surplus-MOLLE-Assault/dp/B002MVHSW8

Anyone know where I can find one for cheaper than $100? If I can just get the shell, that would be even better. The vast majority of helmets being sold on Ebay are thrashed and the sellers expect $150+ for a full set. There have to be piles of these things kicking around, right? I remember when I was younger, the surplus stores had shelves of them for $30. A nudge in the right direction would be highly appreciated.

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>>	Bat Guano 17/02/27(Mon)19:13 No. 18015 ID: 538c90 File 148825161465.jpg - (203.71KB , 1419x1010 , US armored mask Predator Armor Face Mask w teeth p.jpg ) Love the painted armored helmet face masks.

>>	Bat Guano 17/02/27(Mon)19:17 No. 18016 ID: 538c90 File 148825185646.jpg - (392.55KB , 2000x1500 , US armored mask w skull motif 1.jpg ) From minimal drawings...

>>	Bat Guano 17/02/27(Mon)19:18 No. 18017 ID: 538c90 File 148825188611.jpg - (371.63KB , 2000x1500 , US armored mask w skull motif 2.jpg )

>>	Bat Guano 17/02/27(Mon)19:18 No. 18018 ID: 538c90 File 148825193549.jpg - (306.75KB , 1920x1080 , US armored mask Predator Armor Face Mask w Smiley .jpg ) to silly stuff...

>>	Bat Guano 17/02/27(Mon)19:19 No. 18019 ID: 538c90 File 148825197671.jpg - (130.99KB , 1024x722 , US armored mask Predator Armor Face Mask w Hulk pa.jpg ) To full-blown Hulk.

liquid fuel is best innawoods/survival fuel.
Anyone who relies on propane or canisters for fuel is a damn casual.

I run my shit off kerosene because it has longest lifespan of liquid fuels. Also because I can get it as Jet-A from a local airport for $3.7 a gallon.

Pic related. I acquired a Coleman Kerosene One over the holidays to add to my petromax and cold blast lanterns.

It runs great off 500CP Petromax and Peerless 111 mantles that also fit the petromax styles. Brighter, cheaper, and more durable than those Coleman mantles made of Chinesium. Thorium still king.

It's much easier to start than the petromax, but what isn't? Preheater is a cup opposed to the dish and blow torch type pre heaters the petromax features. Knob really can't adjust the amount of light much but that's more a function of how kero lanterns work. Wish it had a pressure gauge and a way to depressurize the tank other than slowly unscrewing the tank cap. I've heard it it can be run off diesel as well but its not as bright, mantle lasts less and you need to basically clean the nozzle after every tank cause clogs.

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>>	serv 17/02/04(Sat)15:44 No. 17956 ID: bc78c2   I really want to get one of those skookum aladdin mantle lamps but $$$

>>	OriginalContentGuy@gmail.com 17/02/05(Sun)04:55 No. 17957 ID: fb3bdd Someone's been watching AvE...

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serv 17/02/09(Thu)06:00 No. 17958 ID: bc78c2 File 148664884360.jpg - (216.89KB , 600x600 , us-army-stove-gasoline-cooking-m-1950.jpg ) I wanna get one of those M1950 gasoline stoves the army fielded from 1951 till the 80s It comes in a case that can be used as cookware. The lid of which has 2 notches so it can fit the earlier WWII M1942 stove https://sklcolorado.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/m-1950-cooking-stove/

>>	serv 17/02/17(Fri)06:58 No. 17961 ID: bc78c2   This guy knows his stuff on liquid fuel.

>>	serv 17/02/17(Fri)17:46 No. 17964 ID: bc78c2   Guy knows his kerosene

10 THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING A GUN SAFE
Posted on April 12, 2011 by GunWorld
By Steve Quinlan http://www.gunworld.com/buyers-guides/accessories/10-things-to-consider-when-buying-a-gun-safe/
Gun safes protect guns and other valuables from theft and fire. Here are 10 things to consider before purchasing one.

In this economy, a gun safe is one of the wisest investments you can make. According to the FBI, guns top the list of stolen items thieves target in home burglaries. Alcohol, cigarettes and prescription medicine rank second, followed by video equipment (TVs, cameras and recorders). Stereo equipment comes in at No. 4, and rounding out the Top 5 are jewelry and cash. All of the above can be stored securely in a quality gun safe, protected not only from thieves, but from a catastrophic fire, as well.

If your main concern is protecting children from an accidental discharge or transporting guns safely within the home or vehicle, other options are available, such as quick-access pistol boxes and minimum-security safes and strongboxes. These allow you quick access to weapons in the event of a break-in, but do little to stop a determined thief.

A gun safe buys you time against thieves and fire. Most break-ins last 10 minutes or less, and a gun safe buys you time as police are dispatched. These break-ins are typically during business hours when no one’s home ”between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., and thieves don’t want to still be in the home when the police arrive.

Yet, generally speaking, the more security features a gun safe has, the better. Realistically, fire poses more of a threat to your guns than does theft. There is an average of nearly 400,000 residential fires annually, which translates to billions of dollars in property loss each year. Fireproof insulation is critical, and several types are available.

The more you know about the various theft- and fire-prevention features available for gun safes, the better informed you will be when purchasing a gun safe. Here are the six things you need to know about fire protection.

Anyone have any idea who makes this jacket/knows of any similar products?

>>	Ulfhunden!Nukem6YzEI 16/12/05(Mon)14:33 No. 17826 ID: 044fd0 Looks like something Mil-Tec would make.

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Bat Guano 16/12/05(Mon)22:17 No. 17827 ID: 6e9743 File 148100503230.jpg - (488.25KB , 1280x853 , German uniform NVA belt buckle - Feldkoppel der Na.jpg ) The brown lines resemble East German camouflage. Strichmuster (line pattern) is a very simple pattern incorporating long, slender brown rain straits on a light greyish-green background. http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=East_Germany - East German NVA belt buckle - Feldkoppel der Nationalen Volksarmee der DDR.

>>	OPERATOR 17/01/06(Fri)18:07 No. 17922 ID: 1a2172 I could have sworn I saw a pattern very similar to this on a jacket on either cabelas site or basspro. Check those places. I almost bought it, I thought it looked very similar to the German rain camp or whatever it is.

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Joe Kidd 17/01/08(Sun)15:55 No. 17925 ID: bd9939 File 148391974453.jpg - (98.60KB , 615x660 , Cabelas-Mens-Space-Rain-Full-Zip-Jacket-with-4Most.jpg ) >>17922 Cabela's "Outfitter" camo maybe? henceforth referred to as outfitterflage. Lacks the East German style rain line thingies, but similar concept. Their space space rain jackets are pretty bitchin for their purpose if you can get them on sale or ebay bee tee dubs. I wish they made them in gray or brown or something. I had to get one in their dorky new "Octane" camo to get it cheap.

>>	OPERATOR 17/02/13(Mon)01:58 No. 17960 ID: f11f4d >>17825 I just want to say, I love the colors on that rifle. They're a mess, but it looks like they end up working perfectly together out in scrub.

Getting real tired of my rucksack. I have a MOLLE ruck with the standard frame, and that shit keeps fucking with me after a while.

I've been thinking of getting another pack. A lot of guys, I've seen with ALICE packs, with the standard frame. It seems to work for them, and most of them are old-timers, so I pay attention to their opinions a bit more.

However, I've been looking at the 1606 frame. I have a spare MOLLE ruck that I'm able to modify to my heart's content. Anyone have experience with this? I know it says that it isn't the best frame for it, but I assume it's because the MOLLE ruck lacks the frame pocket at the top. I can always sew one in, or not, depending on how it works.

Or should I simply get an ALICE? In either case, I'd rather not have the metal frame. It looks pretty uncomfortable.

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Joe Kidd 16/01/30(Sat)16:51 No. 16820 ID: bd9939 File 14542014836.jpg - (36.26KB , 423x562 , somedudeshellcat.jpg ) Never tried the plastic frames, but I once built one of those "hellcat" alice packs using the "molle II" ruck kidney pad and shoulder straps. It still sucked, but it was much, much nicer than the original ALICE equipment, and worked as okayish as can be expected with a plate carrier. Still they're nothing but a money pit with little to no payoff. Got the old 3 color desert stuff off of ebay for super cheap and dyed it. Came out kind of a blueish green, but it worked fine. Seriously though, if you can save pennies and swing for a used/sale price Mystery Ranch, Kuiu, Kifaru, Hill People Gear etc. They will last for a long, long time and your body will thank you.

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OPERATOR 16/01/31(Sun)12:51 No. 16821 ID: 2ed649 >>16820 I'll probably save up for something like that for now, I'll try this frame as an improvement. Planning to keep the kidney belt and straps either way, but the ALICE looks like it takes too much work. I could get a MALICE pack, but at that point, I might just buy a high-quality rucksack.

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OPERATOR 16/12/12(Mon)11:05 No. 17893 ID: f36974 >>16820 you gotta really wrestle with alice packs to make em' fit right you usually are gonna have to tighten the waist belt a little higher than normal than most packs packing your gear correctly in an alice pack is absolutely essential they can't handle much past 45 lbs unless you are packing them really really well when you first put the alice pack on, tighten the shoulders and loosen the waist belt. Make sure the waist belt is sitting on top of your kidneys and hips. Then tighten the waist belt. Then loosen the shoulders so the frame goes near vertical. Keep playing with it that way until you feel the best distribution. Alice packs aren't gonna be like regular hiking packs, and their weight distribution (most people like 90% on hips 10% on shoulds or 80/20%) is gonna be 75/25% or maybe less great for hunting in cold weather though cause no zippers but they aren't very waterproof

>>	OPERATOR 17/01/05(Thu)19:39 No. 17921 ID: 622449 >>16817 > not adapting molle II straps to your ALICE

>>	Kaotickaos 17/01/26(Thu)23:42 No. 17940 ID: 880526 >>16820 I'm in the process of building a Devil Cat mod. The only difference is that I'm using a FILBE main pack instead of an ALICE. The only thing I'm waiting on is the frame, which should arrive over the weekend.

Snek

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Rear_Admiral!ZifOmLffjg 17/01/24(Tue)12:51 No. 17931 ID: 95e359 File 148529109877.jpg - (449.61KB , 891x889 , indefinite detention.jpg ) I have actually started cruising kinder/k/ quite a bit to keep up with the patches being produces. Some of them are really god damn neat-o. Forgive the animu. Also here's a pastebin of the stores if you would like to browse the numerous stores. Woodptach, Crimson, and Skinwalker are of particular interest IMO. http://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD

Dear Operators,

stupid fucking question to those who might have hands-on experience:

will this dropleg magazine panel: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eagle-Industries-UMP-3-Mag-Drop-Leg-Black-Duty-Pouch-SWAT-Police-FBI-LE-SMG-/152164899367?hash=item236dbc1a27:g:cD0AAOSwl-FXNMrh

hold MP5 magazines SECURELY? or due to larger size of UMP45 magazines the MP5 mags might just slip out under the loose flap (and most likely will)?

Sup guys,

So one of the things I like to do is about once or twice a year is buy myself something nice...something pricey. I decided that this year is would be a watch. What I wanted was a basic manually wound mechanical watch. I spent a couple of months researching and finally decided on buying a Weiss Watch Co. Field Watch. I was going go with the slightly cheaper Hamilton field watch that fit the same criteria but I decided I wanted to help out the small American business more and I liked the Weiss's dial better.

The good:
Higher quality finish than I was expecting. Most pics online are of his first pieces and while he hasn't changed anything major in the design he has come a LONG way in the finishing of the watch.
The sapphire front and back. Not only are they super scratch resistant but being able to see the mechanism is pretty cool.
The weight is also something to comment on. For the size of this watch (42mm) it is light on my wrist.
Lastly while it comes close it is not too big for me to wear like most 42mm watches.

The bad:
No hacking seconds. I'm not sure you can actually call this a real field watch without that capability. On a TAC mission you HAVE to be within +/- 30seconds of your L-Hour or you can get yourself or other people killed. Not that we use wrist watches for timing that nowadays but I would have liked to actually do a time hack next brief I was in for the lulz. I guess for most people today it's a non issue but really it would be nice for historical accuracy.

The neutral:
He calls the movement the "Caliber 1001". I feel this is a bit dishonest. The movement is a ETA UNITAS 6497 that he disassembles, polishes, etches, and "modifies" (not that I can find what that entails anywhere. But I honestly don't care enough to ask) before reassembling & regulating. I think he should hold off on the naming before he reaches his stated goal of making his own movements.

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>>	Revived!s7y5u9FuHM 16/05/16(Mon)01:25 No. 17390 ID: 51e25e File 146338713679.jpg - (3.40MB , 4000x2992 , IMG_20160513_000831.jpg ) It wears equally nice on a NATO as well. I plan on eventually getting the Sinn bracelet or a deployment clasp rubber.

>>	Meplat 16/05/23(Mon)17:29 No. 17418 ID: 818111 My Stocker and Yale "mickey mouse" watch died. Had it since tech. Who can get it working? Tritium is long dead, if that matters.

>>	Revived!s7y5u9FuHM 16/05/30(Mon)08:31 No. 17422 ID: bec165 >>17418 Any competent watch maker should be able to help you out.

>>	Frost 16/05/31(Tue)05:43 No. 17423 ID: f87148 >>17388 Fuck me, I could look at automatics' asses all damn day. I just got a Seiko 5 about six months ago, and for ~$70, I couldn't be happier. I'll post photos when I get a halfway decent camera.

>>	OPERATOR 16/12/23(Fri)12:54 No. 17912 ID: 1d4d8c >>16251 What band is that?