>>18041
>aleiexpress

I wouldn't trust my life to ballistic armor from overseas.

>>18043
The Chinese armor gives you lead poisoning without having to go to the trouble of getting shot, just think of the time you'll save!

>>18035
I feel like you'd be better off buying a plate and making a cheapo fabric pocket with velcro straps to put it on, but transporting it in a laptop sleeve.

>>18041
Huh. I would like to see someone order it and test it.

>>18041
>You're gonna do what, hold your backpack out at arms length and hope they don't shoot you anywhere else?
So I guess soldiers, law enforcement, firearm instructiors, armed security officers, and all them just stop wearing body armor, since they'll just get shot somewhere else.

>And hope that they're not using a rifle that will just blow through it anyways?
Level 3 or 3+ will stop most 5.56 (including M855, depending on the plate composition) or ball 308 just fine, and even against 308 AP rounds it could turn a fatal hit into one that is merely dangerous. It also is amusing that you dollow up this comment with pushing OP towards soft armor that would do jack shit against any 5.56 or 308.

>>18045
I have a sneaking suspicion that while the vest will probably work as intended (the DOJ certification letter was actually issued to a couple Chinese companies), it's probably not going to last as long, and won't incorporate any "tricks" that are used in modern armor design to reduce the kinetic impact effects or whatever.

Gear keepers?

Some people use these

http://milspecmonkey.com/store/hardware-diy/127-itw-web-dominator.html

Retention straps, retention bands, webbing strap, etc etc. Lots of names for it

Bro, I've always just used 90mph tape or just electrical tape if in a pinch. Do an S-fold on your shit and you can keep it adjustable even after you tape it down. It's a lot better than the elastic and won't have you struggling when the elastic goes out.

Another option is to use ranger bands. these are made from bicycle inner tube and are quite a bit more stout than the elastic keepers. You can often get tubes for free at your local bike shop and they're almost as useful as paracord.

>>18026
i never see knock-off is no go
because in the good-old days
even through those knock-off
could be quite decent quality for their price
[beside the fuck-you-copyright stuff]
but nowadays those knock-off's knock-off
is flooded into the market
which is BAD,REALLY BAD
and if the bag are for serious business
I will just tell you
not EVEN thinking about that
but the other hand
WHY NOT?

if in that kind of budget
I maybe try Alice surplus backpack
[but costs a lots more
form 50 to 80 bucks]
but at least there are tough as nail
what's the purpose for you backpack?
for better advice

>>18021
>>18025
For your budget, I would recommend a generic Maxpedition Falcon clone; however, even most of the clones are out of your budget, even the trashiest ones.

But, there is one with excellent quality around, that _almost_ fits within your budget:

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-assault-pack-mk-iii/34400

The Varusteleka Särmä clone of the Falcon. This is probably the best choice to go for with your budget.

Lapg atlas 12hr fit your laptop?

[Pic related] is the first, last, and only thing you should be looking at when choosing a backpack.

I own two of these: https://www.amazon.com/US-Military-Surplus-MOLLE-Assault/dp/B002MVHSW8

Love the painted armored helmet face masks.

From minimal drawings...

to silly stuff...

To full-blown Hulk.

  I really want to get one of those skookum aladdin mantle lamps but $$$

Someone's been watching AvE...

I wanna get one of those M1950 gasoline stoves the army fielded from 1951 till the 80s

It comes in a case that can be used as cookware. The lid of which has 2 notches so it can fit the earlier WWII M1942 stove

https://sklcolorado.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/m-1950-cooking-stove/

  This guy knows his stuff on liquid fuel.

  Guy knows his kerosene

>>14154

Dan Bilzerian should have had that on his safe.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/dan-bilzerian-los-angeles-cops-took-guns-without-w/?page=all

  >>15907
A seriously massive con of this is the mechanical override lock is a tubular lock which is ridiculously easy to pick if you own a $10 tubular lockpick.

If a safe has a wafer lock or a tubular lock, figure out a way to replace said lock with something actually good or buy something different. Wafer locks especially, you can pick those open with a screwdriver.

>>14154
>magnet

A engraved plaque of high-hardness stainless that can be welded or riveted on would be a far better option.

>>12788
I just hope by then intra-stellar or even interstellar space travel is a thing so men yearning to be free can carve out their own corner of the system/galaxy (and eventually cleanse the eatrth with a kinetic kill vehicle)

>>11560
The biggest problem I have with these kind of safes (couchsafe and bedsafe) is they are in the worst position for a crowbar/breaker bar attack, and it's not terribly effective concealment - it's something a hired home cleaner would easily run into.

Looks like something Mil-Tec would make.

The brown lines resemble East German camouflage.
Strichmuster (line pattern) is a very simple pattern incorporating long, slender brown rain straits on a light greyish-green background. http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=East_Germany
- East German NVA belt buckle - Feldkoppel der Nationalen Volksarmee der DDR.

I could have sworn I saw a pattern very similar to this on a jacket on either cabelas site or basspro.

Check those places. I almost bought it, I thought it looked very similar to the German rain camp or whatever it is.

>>17922
Cabela's "Outfitter" camo maybe? henceforth referred to as outfitterflage. Lacks the East German style rain line thingies, but similar concept.


Their space space rain jackets are pretty bitchin for their purpose if you can get them on sale or ebay bee tee dubs. I wish they made them in gray or brown or something. I had to get one in their dorky new "Octane" camo to get it cheap.

>>17825
I just want to say, I love the colors on that rifle.
They're a mess, but it looks like they end up working perfectly together out in scrub.

Never tried the plastic frames, but I once built one of those "hellcat" alice packs using the "molle II" ruck kidney pad and shoulder straps. It still sucked, but it was much, much nicer than the original ALICE equipment, and worked as okayish as can be expected with a plate carrier. Still they're nothing but a money pit with little to no payoff.

Got the old 3 color desert stuff off of ebay for super cheap and dyed it. Came out kind of a blueish green, but it worked fine.

Seriously though, if you can save pennies and swing for a used/sale price Mystery Ranch, Kuiu, Kifaru, Hill People Gear etc. They will last for a long, long time and your body will thank you.

>>16820
I'll probably save up for something like that for now, I'll try this frame as an improvement. Planning to keep the kidney belt and straps either way, but the ALICE looks like it takes too much work. I could get a MALICE pack, but at that point, I might just buy a high-quality rucksack.

>>16820
you gotta really wrestle with alice packs to make em' fit right

you usually are gonna have to tighten the waist belt a little higher than normal than most packs

packing your gear correctly in an alice pack is absolutely essential

they can't handle much past 45 lbs unless you are packing them really really well

when you first put the alice pack on, tighten the shoulders and loosen the waist belt. Make sure the waist belt is sitting on top of your kidneys and hips. Then tighten the waist belt. Then loosen the shoulders so the frame goes near vertical. Keep playing with it that way until you feel the best distribution. Alice packs aren't gonna be like regular hiking packs, and their weight distribution (most people like 90% on hips 10% on shoulds or 80/20%) is gonna be 75/25% or maybe less

great for hunting in cold weather though cause no zippers but they aren't very waterproof

>>16817
> not adapting molle II straps to your ALICE

>>16820

I'm in the process of building a Devil Cat mod. The only difference is that I'm using a FILBE main pack instead of an ALICE. The only thing I'm waiting on is the frame, which should arrive over the weekend.

I have actually started cruising kinder/k/ quite a bit to keep up with the patches being produces. Some of them are really god damn neat-o.
Forgive the animu.
Also here's a pastebin of the stores if you would like to browse the numerous stores. Woodptach, Crimson, and Skinwalker are of particular interest IMO.
http://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD

I own the Eagle industries MP5 .40 3 mag drop leg pouch, it does hold the 9mm 33rd
Glock magazines securely.