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17462 No. 17462 ID: 2bdd99 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Since AR500 can't unfuck its shipping/order department, I have 350+ to spend on armor unless they miraculously put a carrier and plates on my doorstep by monday, I need alternatives. I sent them an email saying I either want my money back now, or they can send me the plates I order and another of their cheapest level 3 carrier packages.

Currently running a grey ghost carrier, but it's been without armor since fucking beginning of september. Give me good and reliable places to get some shit.
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>> No. 17547 ID: 79b400
>>17546
>>17545
We should get the guy from the Wound Channel to test it out, I'd trust him to put it through its paces.
>> No. 17548 ID: 79b400
>>17547
I actually just sent him a message with the link, we'll see if he's interested.
>> No. 17554 ID: 82c0c7
>>17546
Hate to hear that you hate your carrier so much, because I was just about to buy that exact style. Does anyone have similar recommendations in that price range?
>> No. 17622 ID: 54b1b1
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Where do you guys usually get your OTVs? If they work well I guess I'll take a shot at purchasing one.
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>>17554
I ended up selling my banshee on ebay and buying a Ferro Concepts Slickster from The Great White North. A little less overt but has a little less working space than something like a banshee, but scale-able from plates only under a cover shirt to a light magazine/essentials loadout to pairing with a chest rig for the full package.

For something with a little more space to work with from the start, I'd look at Beez Combat Systems or Mayflower for a good budget option.


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17575 No. 17575 ID: 1e7323 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
PSA that Nugget clip pouches perfectly hold 10 round magpul AR mags and most fit on MOLLE webbing.

That said, who makes good pouches for 10 round AR mags that don't cost an arm and a leg?
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>> No. 17613 ID: 510456
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17613
Strap these bad boys on your chest rig for a classic look.
Or for aspiring leather freaks.
>> No. 17614 ID: 676266
Fuck, I really want to start working with leather. It really is beautiful.
>> No. 17615 ID: 510456
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17615
>>17614
Swiss Army leather bags, pouches and hairy backpacks here:
http://www.operatorchan.org/g/res/15608.html
>> No. 17616 ID: 510456
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17616
Swedish M96 Mauser 6.5x55 leather ammo pouch bandoleer 4 life!
>> No. 17626 ID: 1fe078
Try a regular chest rig with these paracorded theough the drainage grommets.

http://www.ebairsoft.com/gen3-fast-pouch-p-5252.html


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17572 No. 17572 ID: d3abec hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Predator green deception vs multi-cam vs woodland. Forest environment. Post your thoughts.
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>> No. 17574 ID: dda126
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>>17573
MultiCam Tropic.
>> No. 17605 ID: dda126
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http://www.jabacamo.com/2014/08/review-p1g-tac-summer-mount-trac-suit.html

Also very nice.
>> No. 17619 ID: a615a8
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What kind of forest?

Hardwood forests or mixed hardwood-softwood forests only look like a sea of green from the outside. Once you cross through the brush at the fringes and enter the treeline the predominant colors are grey bark, dark shadows, and the dull rust brown of centuries of rotting dead leaves underfoot.

There's a reason M81 Woodland is mostly brown, khaki, and black, and less than half green.

DPM is also excellent in North American hardwood and mixed forest. Back in the day, before the advent of all these gucci camo patterns, a lot of people felt DPM was decisively superior to US M81 Woodland for North American hardwood forests, because the shapes were smaller and seemed to them to do a better job of breaking up the human shape closer in than Woodland, and because the tan/khaki color was lighter and provided more contrast and the green was a more faded, lighter shade that was a better match for common foliage--though it's also true that DPM was made for five decades on several continents, with very different dyes and printed on very different equipment, and not all "DPM" looked exactly like British milspec.

Multicam is fairly good in late autumn. Otherwise, at least for the forest environment, it's too pale and too brown. Also, just from looking at it I get the impression that the patterns are too small and there's not enough contrast, and that from about 50m it's going to "blob out" and look like neutral "coyote brown." It could be worse. Supposedly the Germans are making a sort-of-copy that they're calling "Operationtarn," which is Multicam without the soft blurred-edge transitions, intended to break up the human outline from further away. It's also probably a lot less expensive to print it that way.

ATACS-FG is excellent in both hardwood and softwood forest--in spring and summer. In hardwood forest in autumn it's WAY too green, which is probably what ATACS-AU is for.

Flecktarn, like Danish M84, is outstanding in thick green pine forests. Anywhere else, it's anywhere from a little too green to much, much too green.

The Marines are very enthusiastic about MARPAT. MARPAT is, like M81 Woodland, mostly brown and black. I personally wonder if the finely detailed pattern and tiny pattern elements are likely to cause it to "blob out" into a dull brown blob past fifty meters or so. M81 was designed to be disruptive--to break up the distinctive human outline--and remain disruptive out to 200m and beyond without "blobbing out."
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>> No. 17620 ID: 044fd0
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M81 woodland is still my favorite pattern. Especially when it's well faded. It is rather too dark for open country though. DPM and Fleck are also good. Really "woodland" is too varied an environment for any one pattern to cover, you get lots of bright greens in open, new growth forest, Dark greens and browns in evergreen forest and browns, tans and grays in old growth hardwood forest. Of course if your goal is not to be seen you'd want to stick to the less-traveled parts of the forest but that could just as easily mean crashing through bright green lowland brambles as it would meandering through dark highlands. So in the end fieldcraft is going to mean at least as much and probably more than your choice of camo.
>> No. 17623 ID: a615a8
  >>17620
Did someone say "fieldcraft?" Because I think I heard someone say "fieldcraft."

Despite being 70+ years old, just about everything in this video still applies. Yeah, some of the techniques are not going to help much against thermal imaging systems--but not much else will, either, and even in 2016, even the wealthiest armies don't have a whole lot of the really top-end FLIR gear to go around.


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17393 No. 17393 ID: 0fa6d7 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Since the discussion came up on IRC and we got talking about it, why the hell not make a thread of this?
We were talking about how hardcases can be a pain in the ass, and how good reinforced/padded rifle bags can be pretty great.

Personally I'm looking for rifle bags for both my Sig551SB/Vz58V (about as large) and my AI AT. The "difficulty" here is that they all have folding stocks & I think it's retarded to buy big bags and not take advantage of the folding mechanism. So the bags need to be shorter & wider to accommodate the folded stock.

Measurements:

AI AT with 20" barrel, additional butt spacer & Steiner M5Xi 5-25x56mm scope:
Extended stock: 101 cm / 40 inches (informational)
Folded stock: 82 cm / 32 inches
Height: 27 cm / 10.5 inches
Thickness: 16 cm / 6 inches (without bipod, since it can easily be slipped off)

Sig 551 SB with 14.3" barrel & Aimpoint CompM3 red dot:
Extended stock: 84 cm / 33 inches (informational)
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>> No. 17404 ID: 0fa6d7
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17404
>>17403

AI AT doesn't have a muzzle brake & the Sig 551 is birdcage-ish.

I'm not really concerned. Though your AAC Brakeout doesn't really look sharp.
>> No. 17559 ID: 86d09e
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17559
So, I finally received my Condor 151-002 bag.

Quality seems alright at first glance. There's some things I would've designed differently, but it seems alright overall.

Nothing wrong with it other than that they seemed to have mounted the backpack straps upside down compared to the pics on the website, but they work both ways. I prefer to carry higher rather than lower, so I swapped them around. That way I could use it on my motorcycle.

First thing I did was get rid of the MOLLE pouches on the front.

(excuse the poor pics, sun is down, lighting is shit, had to use flash)
>> No. 17560 ID: 86d09e
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Here's the rear with the backpack straps. The straps can be taken off entirely or clipped in half and then stored in a hidden compartment on the back.

It should probably be noted that the front pouch is large enough to stick in an entire Vz58V if you wanted to. So pretty large. Also has 2 document style pouches with velcro in it.
>> No. 17561 ID: 86d09e
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17561
But does it fit the AI AT 20"? Why yes, yes it does.
The pic is with the bolt handle still in the rifle too. I guess in actual usage that would come out and keep the back more flat.

With the AT in it, I wouldn't put a second rifle in the bag though.

The biggest gripe here would be the straps. I might sew something on to make them different in order to fix the rifle snugly in place instead of loosely.

Same thing goes for pretty much all adjustable straps on the bag btw. Only a few of them have elastic bands to keep the slack in place. I'll put on some more or sew some in place where I know I don't need adjustment.
>> No. 17562 ID: 86d09e
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17562
It can easily fit the Sig 551 SB and Vz58V simultaneously. It'll likely see some use for that as well instead of my bulky hardcases (which frankly are huge overkill for what I do with my guns in transport).

As always though, the proof of the puddin' is in the eatin'.


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17527 No. 17527 ID: 154dbb hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I bought a set of ACUs on the cheap and dyed them with liquid Rit. I'll post the entire process later.
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>> No. 17540 ID: c550c6
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The recommended time is 30 min, but I've read that 1 hour is better for synthetic materials. I let it sit for an hour and drained/added fresh hot tap water around the plastic bucket every 15 min.
>> No. 17541 ID: c550c6
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17541
Result from Unicam to custom woodland digital.
>> No. 17549 ID: dda126
>>17541
Bretty good. I dyed a German Flecktarn piece with simple black dye once. Turned out like MultiCam Black.
>> No. 17551 ID: 11d6e3
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My flecktarn didn't take much black dye (yes i followed the instructions)
at least it took the bright spots out
>> No. 17555 ID: dda126
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>>17551
Hehehe, you are me.


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17550 No. 17550 ID: 8e1003 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Haven't had one of these in a while. Has your loadout changed at all?
>> No. 17552 ID: 8ae717
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17552
Really need to get myself a better flashlight. Or better: a tlr1 compatible holster, but I suspect I'd have to roll my own since I've modified the light to sit in the middle rail slot instead of the front.
>> No. 17553 ID: 79b400
>>17552
Same. Mine is just a $10 light that'll work until it doesn't.

I was contemplating modifying it to have a proud button, but that would be too much work than it's worth.

I need to get a good holster for when I get a carry permit.

I like your chain link keychain. I forgot to add my watch to the pic because I was wearing it and tend to forget it's there.


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17520 No. 17520 ID: 6705c1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What sort of equipment would you bring along for an elevated background radiation environment? For the sake of argument, let's assume a 48 hour excursion.

A geiger counter would be baseline, but what would it look like going from all the way down from "STALKER bandit-tier" to actually dumping serious money into NBC equipment/PPE?

Pic not particularly related.
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>> No. 17532 ID: 3877ff
  How to cut an Onion Life Hacks https://youtu.be/_NQ3MrWbuoA
How to slice onions fast. Make your life easier using a hair pick to hold fruit and veg whilst you cut it. Make onion rings, cut even slices and keep your fingers away from the knife blade.
>> No. 17533 ID: 79b400
>>17531
When I worked in the kitchen, I had some cheap glasses with a gasket that I bought at a flea market. They worked pretty well, even around a full bin of diced onions. Unless I were to hover my face an inch above the onions.

They unfortunately broke during one of the times I was hit by a car on the bicycle. So when I started my current job and would pick up kitchen shifts, I suffered a bit around cold prep. I was 10 feet away and still watering up.

I really should get another pair of glasses with a gasket.
>> No. 17542 ID: 6705c1
>In a post-nuclear scenario, a simple gas mask might work to filter out radioactive dust and raincoats, rubber gloves and rubber over-shoes worn to keep the dust off your clothes, but these would have to be thoroughly washed with lots of water to decontaminate them.

This sort of jives from the general gist of what I've read. In THE ZONE, your greatest enemy will be dust and material already contaminated, and some hot spots that a geiger counter would help you keep your distance from. It seems a little too idealistic to me though. "Just wear a mask so you don't breathe/ingest the irradiated shit and throw away/wash-the-shit-out-of your clothes and your should be fine! Also don't cuddle glowing shit."

But then again if tourism into Pripyat is safe enough to be a state sanctioned activity, then maybe that idea holds water? I dunno what am I missing?
>> No. 17543 ID: 3877ff
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>>17542
I was mostly quoting from old 1950s civil defense pamphlets on how to build and survive in a nuclear fallout shelter and how to rebuild in the post-nuclear world. Gas masks and rubber rain gear might very well serve adequately if that's all you have. Big rules to live by are stay in your shelter for as long as possible (at least two weeks, but two months the radiation has lessened tremendously and after four months the rioting probably has subsided and some authority has likely organized better group survival) and don't go near radioactive areas.
>> No. 17544 ID: 044fd0
  >>17542


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17510 No. 17510 ID: 86d09e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Are 5.11 boots OK? I'd like a side zip boot with toe protection + oil&water resistance. Pref not too high, so 6" ideally.

Side zip because I need to get in & out of the boot a lot when working on board of a ship (no work shoes on the bridge!). Which doesn't happen all that often, but it's enough of a bother to keep it in mind when buying new shoes.
I currently use Caterpillar (anti-static since I work in IT), but they don't seem to come in the sidezip version. So I wanted to try something else.

I came across the 5.11 A.T.A.C. Shield Side Zip ASTM boots.
http://www.511tactical.com/atac-6-shield-side-zip-astm-boot.html
Seems to fit the bill. penis_ already endorsed them on #/k/, what do you guys think? Any other suggestions?
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>> No. 17515 ID: 9ba6eb
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17515
And the people who make high-end slippers are making one.
Merrell Men's Polar Side-Zip Boot $99
You may not be climbing Mt. Everest or trekking across the Arctic, but you still want your boots to keep your feet warm, dry and comfortable when winter weather hits. Conquer cold, slick conditions in Merrell's Polar Boots with amazing ice-gripping performance! Rugged, waterproof leather upper is lined with 200 grams of heat-retaining polar fleece Thinsulate® Insulation that seals out cold and wet, yet allows moisture to escape, so feet stay dry, comfortable and odor free. Merrell Active Heat removable felted footbed features a silver film lining that reflects heat back to keep feet toasty warm, not sweaty. Shock absorbing air cushioned heel and EVA midsole adds stability for the support you need. Rubber rand buffers toes and heels for extra protection and increased durability. And ICE GRIP technology maximizes traction over snow, slush and ice with a specialized design that bites into slippery surfaces like crampons! Side-Zip Boot slips on with convenient 5" zipper — bellows opening keeps snow out. Merrell Polar Boots keep your feet toasty warm, and the elements at bay! 6mm lug depth. http://www.herringtoncatalog.com/products/merrell-mens-polar-side-zip-boot
>> No. 17516 ID: 9ba6eb
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>>17514
Swat Men's Classic 9" Tactical Police Military Boots Side Zip 1152
$99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Swat-Mens-Classic-9-Tactical-Police-Military-Boots-Side-Zip-1152-/351306056389
>> No. 17517 ID: 9ba6eb
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Rocky Side Zipper Jump Boot https://www.rockyboots.com/rocky-mens-boots/rocky-side-zipper-jump-boot/FQ0002091.html
$140
>> No. 17518 ID: ed76d8
I don't know if side zips have gotten any better, but last I checked (albeit 5 years ago), they're generally pretty shit.

Have you considered pull ons? Redwings makes some fantastic pull on work boots, I believe some in the 6" range.

As for 5.11, I hear great things about their boots. If side zippers have gotten any better since I was last looking for them, I'd take a gamble on them.
>> No. 17519 ID: f49edb
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17519
I used to wear Belleville 610 STZ with the steel toes in the air force, they were quite good.

Remember that side zips are super easy to get off, but it doesn't always work the same way to get back on. I'm not sure why that is, but it always seemed like zipping them back on fit very oddly.


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17473 No. 17473 ID: 4b3eed hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
i have pic related, sans the throat protector which ill be ordering soon ($20) and the dick guard which is later down the road, probably after a plate.

anyway, im considering using this for 2-gun competition, and im wondering how to do the holster. this particular competition requires strong side holster custom fitted to the handgun. i dont really see where i can fit a drop leg holster to it, and i would prefer not to add a belt. is there any recourse?
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>> No. 17475 ID: fcbea4
What size is your vest?
>> No. 17477 ID: 4b3eed
>>17475
not sure, the label came off. it's real salty. if i had to guess id lean towards smaller because im 6'0" and it stops around my belly button iirc

>>17474
thats what i meant by drop-leg sorry but i dont see where i could attach the thigh holster to the vest or i would. i dont want to have a separate belt for holster.
>> No. 17478 ID: f87148
>>17477

>thats what i meant by drop-leg sorry but i dont see where i could attach the thigh holster to the vest or i would. i dont want to have a separate belt for holster.

Attach it to the belt you're presently using to keep your pants above your ankles. Treat the IOTV or whatever like outerwear: Everything else is independent of it, because it's just something you throw on after putting your actual work shit on.
>> No. 17479 ID: 4b3eed
>>17478
there is enough clearance on the vest for that, guess i'm going owb shopping again. thanks :D
>> No. 17481 ID: f87148
>>17479

No problem, bro.


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16840 No. 16840 ID: 52ed6e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Just in case anybody finds this thread through a Google search and has no idea how Operatorchan works, this is not for sale.

I ordered this vest off of eBay a few weeks ago, costing me $54.99 plus $17.50 international shipping. The seller shipped it late, and I didn't get a shipping notification until the first day in the week period eBay told me it would arrive. I only just got it today when it was supposed to arrive January 19-26. Oh well. It's good enough that I'm willing to overlook that.

I am 6'0" tall (~182cm) and this vest fit me no problem. Before I bought it, I asked the seller if it would fit someone like me and he assured me that he was 183cm and it fit him just fine. Remember folks, when buying surplus gear and clothing, make sure you are sure that it fits you before you buy it!

This vest was advertised as handmade and while I have seen numerous vests from the region and time period (1990s) that are somewhat similar, I have never seen one that is similar enough to indicate that this is not handmade. Thus, it is officially 100% artisinal hand-crafted non-GMO gluten free.
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>> No. 17377 ID: 52ed6e
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I cannot be stopped.

$50 shipped.

>Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina combat vest
>> No. 17391 ID: 52ed6e
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Update: >>17350 arrived today. No full review yet but I really like it, possibly better than the first one I bought. A lot of good design choices went into this one.
>> No. 17392 ID: 52ed6e
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Today I got this one >>17377 and it's so simple I can give a review really easily.

4 rifle mag pouches, fits AK mags and AR mags just fine. One other pouch on the left shoulder pocket for grenades or whatever. Zipper in the front, adjustable straps for fatness in the back. This vest feels like it's NEVER been worn and I suspect it's actually new production because it doesn't smell like a grandma's house.

I feel kind of ripped off with this one tbh, oh well. It's a functional vest, at least.
>> No. 17460 ID: e59f1a
>>17375

You mean the blue tiger stripe one?
>> No. 17461 ID: 52ed6e
>>17460
No, a different woodland camo pattern.

That vest arrived too, but I've been really busy and lazy lately so I haven't gotten around to writing a proper review, but it's too bulky and complex for me to really love it.


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