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17252 No. 17252 ID: 7ec630 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
For awhile now I've wanted to try and make a MOLLE belt capable of holding an Infantry fighting load. Basically something similar to how the ALICE belt used to be. 6-7 magazines, two canteen pouches, & GP Pouch. I tried using an HSGI belt a few years back and it didn't really work out.

Recently I got to work with the British Military and I really took a liking to their PLCE. It seems like it does exactly what I'm looking for. With the harness setup I could even figure out a way to hook up a camelbak.

I'm a weekend warrior in a light infantry unit these days, but I still would like gear that's able to perform well. Can any recommend where in the US to buy real PLCE, or have any suggestions for a MOLLE belt setup?
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>> No. 17488 ID: d50d06
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The shoulder yoke is very well padded indeed. It rubs on my neck but without taking it on a march I don't know how much that would irritate me. It feels very stable and with the belt tightened down I don't feel as much weight on my shoulders as I thought I would.
>> No. 17489 ID: d50d06
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First complaint is this buckle. I'm just not used to it, but I think I would prefer some sort of quick release clip. This holds very snug and doesn't back off that I've found. But it takes a few seconds to get tight, where as I feel like a buckle would be a lot quicker.
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Here is my biggest concern. The material is nice, but it feels plasticy (Don't know how else to describe it). All the stitching is single stitching. No idea if this will be an issue at all, but I'll be keeping an eye on things to watch for bits coming undone.

Thanks to everyone who helped me with this purchase!
>> No. 17738 ID: 1cbaaa
Disciple is ok, I think Dragon Supplies or Jay Jay's of Brecon would be better quality.

The roll pin is a solid choice, if you add or remove layers then the belt will always be exactly the right tightness. Whereas with a traditional buckle you'd have to adjust it.

I also secure the roll pin belt using adhesive velcro (reinforced with superglue), but that's just me.
>> No. 17740 ID: 3a0e10
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/mavbody2piece.aspx and
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/xharness.aspx


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17721 No. 17721 ID: 38a9a9 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
I am looking at Armasight NODs and due to my being not so well off have decided to go cheap for my first set. Does anyone have any experience with Gen 1 NV? I'd be particularly interested in hearing from anyone that has experience with the Spark or Vega models from Armasight.
>> No. 17724 ID: 2ed649
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I don't have experience with with Armasight stuff, although it looks good. I do have a pair of Pulsar nods. They are nowhere near as good as Gen III, which is what I'm used to, but they can be used for familiarization if you have an IR light mounted to your helmet. I like the pulsar pair because they mount to the standard rhino mount without too much fuss.

If you're planning to use these for anything other than just getting used to nods or some limited indoor use, I recommend you save your money. Pic related, my helmet and cheapo nods.
>> No. 17726 ID: 8a53bd
I had a gen 1 monocular as a kid.

Save your jewgold to get at least gen2 tube equipped. Gen1 works but is supershit.
>> No. 17727 ID: 02cdd5
>>17724
How did you mount the pulsar to your rhino arm? Did you build an adapter or is there one available commercially?
>> No. 17728 ID: 2ed649
>>17727
The standard j-arm fits the pulsar. No modifications required.
>> No. 17729 ID: 6f4a31
I am going to go with the spark...it is basically Gen II without the microchannel plate (so it is technically Gen 1+).


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17712 No. 17712 ID: bec165 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What are you guys wearing? I've been taking an R.G.B for a spin lately.

Lets talk about why good belts are important for a second...
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>> No. 17716 ID: 685058
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I have a plain Western-style leather belt and holster rig for my Ruger Vaquero.
>> No. 17717 ID: 0cc1d8
I'm currently using my Dickies web belt. It's pretty rigid, but I think it's eventually going to warp once I start carrying daily after I move.

Any good budget belts? I'm going to be using my Dickies belt without much regret because I don't care that it will eventually warp, but I do see the benefits of a more rigid belt and longevity.
>> No. 17718 ID: 028b36
I've been wearing the Carhartt leather and webbing belt

http://www.theworkingmanstore.com/browseproducts/A159-Leather-and-Web-Belt.HTML

I found it at a surplus store and it has been holding up really well, worked great with Comp-Tac's C-Clip for holsters. But from what I can gathered it's no longer in production :(
>> No. 17719 ID: 22504e
>>17714
I second this recommendation. Though I never tuck in my shirt, so I don't think anyone ever sees it. Frankly, it's mostly the COBRA buckle that makes it look mall ninja. At a glance it looks more like a cloth belt that teenagers wear.
>> No. 17725 ID: bd9939
I wear a $15 black factory second 5.11 "OPERATOR" belt erry day because my nice 214 gear cobra belt was getting a liiiiitle tight for the moment. It's pretty dumb but it's still less gay than the big fucking wannabe cowboy buckles most of these fudds and bubbas are wearing. Works quite well, wish it was less obvious but for the price I'm very happy.

Next belt will be something leather and smaller from safariland simply because I can get them quite cheap.


No. 17690 ID: bc78c2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  If SHTF and you have one of these, you're the hottest of shit.
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>> No. 17706 ID: f49edb
>>17701

>The only thing going for the woodmobile is that it runs (poorly) on firewood.

That's it entirely. If you've got nothing else you can still use wood. Until the wood is all gone.
>> No. 17707 ID: d4c8ee
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>>17706
And then you end up like Haiti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_in_Haiti
>> No. 17708 ID: bc78c2
  This is now saw general thread
>> No. 17709 ID: 7e7763
>>17697
>>17702
Many diesel engines can be made to run on straight vegetable oil, no need to convert the oil to biodiesel.
>> No. 17710 ID: f87148
>>17709

Yeah, but my reading indicates that SVO comes with a few issues of its own, notably gelling and oxidative polymerization, the latter of which can apparently BTFO an ICE in fairly short order.

Besides, with biodiesel, I'll be able to just pump it straight into literally anything that takes diesel, from my second-echelon standby generators, to an old Muhsaydes TDI, to a fuckin' bush plane without having to fuck around with any of their gaskets and seals and whatever the hell else.


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17564 No. 17564 ID: c8dc6d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Once I move to Arizona, I'm going to be in the land of constitutional carry and I intend to carry my Glock 19.

However, I don't have a holster and I am a poorfag, otherwise I'd just pick up a G-Code or Armiger and be done with it.

Are there any good holsters in the $30-$40 range? I prefer appendix carry. Do I have options for this price? Or am I limited to belt slide minimalist holsters and button up shirts?
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>> No. 17635 ID: dda126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL1n0BnWsME

http://www.glockstore.com/Advanced-Holster-Mini-Concealment-Holster
>> No. 17642 ID: c1c101
To be clear...I do not honestly advocate the use of Fobus holsters...They don't seem to conceal well, retain well, or not-break well. First hand experience.
>> No. 17643 ID: 0cc1d8
>>17642
I know to avoid them, quality a shit and that design is pants on hand retarded.

There's a few I'm looking at and there's a local kydex holster maker whose prices aren't crazy. Might go that route.
>> No. 17644 ID: c1c101
>>17643
It's also not that hard or cost intensive to roll your own kydex. You seem handy enough and once you've put together a press and presuming you have access to an oven, you can make a holster for just a few bucks. Order some rivets and belt attachment hardware, and you're good to go.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?64714-How-to-make-a-Kydex-holster-Picture-Tutorial
>> No. 17696 ID: 460861
Ended up ordering this.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TFECAT6/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I hear good things about Blade Tech and the clip looks like it has good retention. Now I just need to find some cheap mag pouches.


No. 17600 ID: bc78c2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  Light thread?

Sure LEDS are okay but there's nothing like fuel based light.

These Aladdin lamps put out roughly the same as a 60 watt light. They use a kerosene burning wick to incandescence a mantle.
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>> No. 17646 ID: 90257a
>>17645
Windows, bruh.
>> No. 17648 ID: 0f2a9d
>>17645
crack a window or two about an inch and you're set.

Kerosene fumes are not noxious unlike gasoline.
>> No. 17651 ID: f49edb
My parents have a few kerosene lamps that they would use for power outages and such. They can be pretty neat.
>> No. 17683 ID: f87148
>>17631

lel

I still haven't gotten around to replacing that goddamn $150 lamp.

>>17645

Only if it isn't burning properly. A wick lamp will gutter or smoke visibly, a mantle lamp... actually, I'm not entirely certain what a mantle lamp will do. The practical upshot is, however, that it isn't nearly as big a deal as people think -- not even with the big kerosene heaters I use as backup heating in winter.

By all means, do buy a CO detector or two, and keep abreast of batteries and testing.

Not to mention a goddamn smoke alarm...
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Waifu and I use one of these LUCI lights all the time. Originally it was just for a tent, but it's kind of fun to use at home too. Ours can switch through a bunch of colors. They're only like 15 dollarbux online and at REI.


Lanterns are too bulky, delicate and heavy for any of my needs. This thing is like a itty bitty beech ball with a solar panel. Only weighs a couple ounces and puts out plenty of light for any need that doesn't require a headlamp.


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16451 No. 16451 ID: 1f4942 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I got a flak west and it smelled a bit of storage
so i put it in the washing machine and it now smells like flowers

But how the hell do i get the big inserts back in the west properly
is there a trick ?!?!?!
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>> No. 17621 ID: 54b1b1
>>16454
Where did you purchase yours from?
>> No. 17624 ID: 11d6e3
>>17621
I dont remember it was over a year ago
Some german surplus site with no english
>> No. 17625 ID: dda126
>>17624
https://bestprotection.de/shop/Koerperschutzsysteme/Schutzwesten/Splitterschutzwesten/Bundeswehr-Splitterschutzweste-neuwertig.html

>100€

wow, shit got expensive.
>> No. 17627 ID: 11d6e3
>>17625
42€

https://www.asmc.de/Ausruestung/Militaerausruestung/Tragesysteme/Koerperschutz/BW-Splitterschutzweste-flecktarn-gebraucht-p.html
>> No. 17676 ID: 6791a2
Goddamn i wish mine looked as new as this, shit's looking washed-out, i really should try to restore the colors or something

Still the most important thing is that it gets the job done

>>17627
Kek i got mine for much less than that


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17558 No. 17558 ID: dda126 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Redbull me on (non ballistic) helmets and (electronic) hearing protection options that go together work.
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>> No. 17565 ID: 86d09e
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Most people don't have a use for such a contraption, so many of us have no opinion on the matter.

As for electronic earpro, the MSA Sordin Pro-X Supreme remains the gold standard. Easy as hell to have a conversation with. And for sentry duty, you can turn up the audio magnification so high you can literally hear people breathe downstairs. I mostly just use it to listen to music when shooting.
But I do double up on earpro when shooting SBRs indoor. I find it's too loud for my sensitive ears if I don't use plugs as well, especially if there's a guy blasting a 7.5" aggressively braked AR15 in the stall next to me. Outdoor is no issue.
Also, invest in the gel pad upgrade. They are soooo worth the money.
>> No. 17567 ID: dda126
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>>17565
this clean, sort of last gen type look is what I'd be going for - just to give you an idea....
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>>17567
...I would prefere that type of thing over this. OTOH it seems as if these helmets allow for hearing pro to be worn underneath without using the rails anyway so maybe I'm looking for a solution to a non problem here?
>> No. 17653 ID: df12a0
>>17567

What is it about that MP5 that makes me think it's airsoft?
>> No. 17654 ID: c550c6
>>17653
Looks like a brass barrel and some marking on the magwell.


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17575 No. 17575 ID: 1e7323 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
PSA that Nugget clip pouches perfectly hold 10 round magpul AR mags and most fit on MOLLE webbing.

That said, who makes good pouches for 10 round AR mags that don't cost an arm and a leg?
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>> No. 17613 ID: 510456
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Strap these bad boys on your chest rig for a classic look.
Or for aspiring leather freaks.
>> No. 17614 ID: 676266
Fuck, I really want to start working with leather. It really is beautiful.
>> No. 17615 ID: 510456
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>>17614
Swiss Army leather bags, pouches and hairy backpacks here:
http://www.operatorchan.org/g/res/15608.html
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17616
Swedish M96 Mauser 6.5x55 leather ammo pouch bandoleer 4 life!
>> No. 17626 ID: 1fe078
Try a regular chest rig with these paracorded theough the drainage grommets.

http://www.ebairsoft.com/gen3-fast-pouch-p-5252.html


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17572 No. 17572 ID: d3abec hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Predator green deception vs multi-cam vs woodland. Forest environment. Post your thoughts.
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>> No. 17574 ID: dda126
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>>17573
MultiCam Tropic.
>> No. 17605 ID: dda126
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http://www.jabacamo.com/2014/08/review-p1g-tac-summer-mount-trac-suit.html

Also very nice.
>> No. 17619 ID: a615a8
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What kind of forest?

Hardwood forests or mixed hardwood-softwood forests only look like a sea of green from the outside. Once you cross through the brush at the fringes and enter the treeline the predominant colors are grey bark, dark shadows, and the dull rust brown of centuries of rotting dead leaves underfoot.

There's a reason M81 Woodland is mostly brown, khaki, and black, and less than half green.

DPM is also excellent in North American hardwood and mixed forest. Back in the day, before the advent of all these gucci camo patterns, a lot of people felt DPM was decisively superior to US M81 Woodland for North American hardwood forests, because the shapes were smaller and seemed to them to do a better job of breaking up the human shape closer in than Woodland, and because the tan/khaki color was lighter and provided more contrast and the green was a more faded, lighter shade that was a better match for common foliage--though it's also true that DPM was made for five decades on several continents, with very different dyes and printed on very different equipment, and not all "DPM" looked exactly like British milspec.

Multicam is fairly good in late autumn. Otherwise, at least for the forest environment, it's too pale and too brown. Also, just from looking at it I get the impression that the patterns are too small and there's not enough contrast, and that from about 50m it's going to "blob out" and look like neutral "coyote brown." It could be worse. Supposedly the Germans are making a sort-of-copy that they're calling "Operationtarn," which is Multicam without the soft blurred-edge transitions, intended to break up the human outline from further away. It's also probably a lot less expensive to print it that way.

ATACS-FG is excellent in both hardwood and softwood forest--in spring and summer. In hardwood forest in autumn it's WAY too green, which is probably what ATACS-AU is for.

Flecktarn, like Danish M84, is outstanding in thick green pine forests. Anywhere else, it's anywhere from a little too green to much, much too green.

The Marines are very enthusiastic about MARPAT. MARPAT is, like M81 Woodland, mostly brown and black. I personally wonder if the finely detailed pattern and tiny pattern elements are likely to cause it to "blob out" into a dull brown blob past fifty meters or so. M81 was designed to be disruptive--to break up the distinctive human outline--and remain disruptive out to 200m and beyond without "blobbing out."
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M81 woodland is still my favorite pattern. Especially when it's well faded. It is rather too dark for open country though. DPM and Fleck are also good. Really "woodland" is too varied an environment for any one pattern to cover, you get lots of bright greens in open, new growth forest, Dark greens and browns in evergreen forest and browns, tans and grays in old growth hardwood forest. Of course if your goal is not to be seen you'd want to stick to the less-traveled parts of the forest but that could just as easily mean crashing through bright green lowland brambles as it would meandering through dark highlands. So in the end fieldcraft is going to mean at least as much and probably more than your choice of camo.
>> No. 17623 ID: a615a8
  >>17620
Did someone say "fieldcraft?" Because I think I heard someone say "fieldcraft."

Despite being 70+ years old, just about everything in this video still applies. Yeah, some of the techniques are not going to help much against thermal imaging systems--but not much else will, either, and even in 2016, even the wealthiest armies don't have a whole lot of the really top-end FLIR gear to go around.


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