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18035 No. 18035 ID: 787df2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Has anyone tried these bulletproof backpacks before?

https://bestbulletproof.com/products/bulletproof-backpack
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>> No. 18043 ID: f5c3ed
>>18041
>aleiexpress

I wouldn't trust my life to ballistic armor from overseas.
>> No. 18044 ID: d4c8ee
>>18043
The Chinese armor gives you lead poisoning without having to go to the trouble of getting shot, just think of the time you'll save!
>> No. 18045 ID: 3f7131
>>18035
I feel like you'd be better off buying a plate and making a cheapo fabric pocket with velcro straps to put it on, but transporting it in a laptop sleeve.

>>18041
Huh. I would like to see someone order it and test it.
>> No. 18046 ID: 1611fc
>>18041
>You're gonna do what, hold your backpack out at arms length and hope they don't shoot you anywhere else?
So I guess soldiers, law enforcement, firearm instructiors, armed security officers, and all them just stop wearing body armor, since they'll just get shot somewhere else.

>And hope that they're not using a rifle that will just blow through it anyways?
Level 3 or 3+ will stop most 5.56 (including M855, depending on the plate composition) or ball 308 just fine, and even against 308 AP rounds it could turn a fatal hit into one that is merely dangerous. It also is amusing that you dollow up this comment with pushing OP towards soft armor that would do jack shit against any 5.56 or 308.
>> No. 18048 ID: d4c8ee
>>18045
I have a sneaking suspicion that while the vest will probably work as intended (the DOJ certification letter was actually issued to a couple Chinese companies), it's probably not going to last as long, and won't incorporate any "tricks" that are used in modern armor design to reduce the kinetic impact effects or whatever.


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17984 No. 17984 ID: 7be869 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I feel very stupid for having to ask this but I can use my brain and figure out what the hell this thing is called.

The elastic band found on some gear to help secure the straps in place. What is it called (if it has a fancy a name) and can I buy them pre-made? I know I could make them fairly simply but I don't have a sewing machine and I hate sewing by hand.

Sorry for such a stupid question. Thanks in advance.
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>> No. 17988 ID: 48c841
Gear keepers?
>> No. 17989 ID: 48c841
Some people use these

http://milspecmonkey.com/store/hardware-diy/127-itw-web-dominator.html
>> No. 17999 ID: 3e0c42
Retention straps, retention bands, webbing strap, etc etc. Lots of names for it
>> No. 18020 ID: 766d06
Bro, I've always just used 90mph tape or just electrical tape if in a pinch. Do an S-fold on your shit and you can keep it adjustable even after you tape it down. It's a lot better than the elastic and won't have you struggling when the elastic goes out.
>> No. 18047 ID: 044fd0
Another option is to use ranger bands. these are made from bicycle inner tube and are quite a bit more stout than the elastic keepers. You can often get tubes for free at your local bike shop and they're almost as useful as paracord.


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18021 No. 18021 ID: 4adebb hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Hey guys, need some quick backpack advice.

On opchan's recommendation I bought this bag (LA Police Gear 3-Day) a few years ago. It's served me well. Through grad school it would take a full load of laptop+books with no problems, and the only failure I ever had with mine was one of the male clips breaking because of my own misuse.

But its been a while now, and the canvas is starting to wear thin, so before it totally goes I'm in the market for a new bag.

LA Police Gear has the exact same bag going for only 29 bucks, but I wondered if you guys had any newer recommendations at the same price point. A littler smaller would be better as well, because this is too big for me now that I don't need to haul schoolbooks, but it should still be able to carry a full-size laptop.

Any new stuff you'd recommend? Or should I just go with what I know, again? Thanks operators.
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>> No. 18027 ID: e6ec95
>>18026
i never see knock-off is no go
because in the good-old days
even through those knock-off
could be quite decent quality for their price
[beside the fuck-you-copyright stuff]
but nowadays those knock-off's knock-off
is flooded into the market
which is BAD,REALLY BAD
and if the bag are for serious business
I will just tell you
not EVEN thinking about that
but the other hand
WHY NOT?
>> No. 18028 ID: e6ec95
if in that kind of budget
I maybe try Alice surplus backpack
[but costs a lots more
form 50 to 80 bucks]
but at least there are tough as nail
what's the purpose for you backpack?
for better advice
>> No. 18029 ID: f35315
>>18021
>>18025
For your budget, I would recommend a generic Maxpedition Falcon clone; however, even most of the clones are out of your budget, even the trashiest ones.

But, there is one with excellent quality around, that _almost_ fits within your budget:

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-assault-pack-mk-iii/34400

The Varusteleka Särmä clone of the Falcon. This is probably the best choice to go for with your budget.
>> No. 18030 ID: 3a0e10
Lapg atlas 12hr fit your laptop?
>> No. 18033 ID: 407f66
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18033
[Pic related] is the first, last, and only thing you should be looking at when choosing a backpack.

I own two of these: https://www.amazon.com/US-Military-Surplus-MOLLE-Assault/dp/B002MVHSW8


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15031 No. 15031 ID: 5f2bf8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Anyone know where I can find one for cheaper than $100? If I can just get the shell, that would be even better. The vast majority of helmets being sold on Ebay are thrashed and the sellers expect $150+ for a full set. There have to be piles of these things kicking around, right? I remember when I was younger, the surplus stores had shelves of them for $30. A nudge in the right direction would be highly appreciated.
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>> No. 18015 ID: 538c90
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18015
Love the painted armored helmet face masks.
>> No. 18016 ID: 538c90
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18016
From minimal drawings...
>> No. 18017 ID: 538c90
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18017
>> No. 18018 ID: 538c90
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18018
to silly stuff...
>> No. 18019 ID: 538c90
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18019
To full-blown Hulk.


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17951 No. 17951 ID: d6be59 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
liquid fuel is best innawoods/survival fuel.
Anyone who relies on propane or canisters for fuel is a damn casual.

I run my shit off kerosene because it has longest lifespan of liquid fuels. Also because I can get it as Jet-A from a local airport for $3.7 a gallon.

Pic related. I acquired a Coleman Kerosene One over the holidays to add to my petromax and cold blast lanterns.

It runs great off 500CP Petromax and Peerless 111 mantles that also fit the petromax styles. Brighter, cheaper, and more durable than those Coleman mantles made of Chinesium. Thorium still king.

It's much easier to start than the petromax, but what isn't? Preheater is a cup opposed to the dish and blow torch type pre heaters the petromax features. Knob really can't adjust the amount of light much but that's more a function of how kero lanterns work. Wish it had a pressure gauge and a way to depressurize the tank other than slowly unscrewing the tank cap. I've heard it it can be run off diesel as well but its not as bright, mantle lasts less and you need to basically clean the nozzle after every tank cause clogs.
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>> No. 17956 ID: bc78c2
  I really want to get one of those skookum aladdin mantle lamps but $$$
>> No. 17957 ID: fb3bdd
Someone's been watching AvE...
>> No. 17958 ID: bc78c2
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17958
I wanna get one of those M1950 gasoline stoves the army fielded from 1951 till the 80s

It comes in a case that can be used as cookware. The lid of which has 2 notches so it can fit the earlier WWII M1942 stove

https://sklcolorado.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/m-1950-cooking-stove/
>> No. 17961 ID: bc78c2
  This guy knows his stuff on liquid fuel.
>> No. 17964 ID: bc78c2
  Guy knows his kerosene


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11545 No. 11545 ID: 263d6c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
10 THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING A GUN SAFE
Posted on April 12, 2011 by GunWorld
By Steve Quinlan http://www.gunworld.com/buyers-guides/accessories/10-things-to-consider-when-buying-a-gun-safe/
Gun safes protect guns and other valuables from theft and fire. Here are 10 things to consider before purchasing one.

In this economy, a gun safe is one of the wisest investments you can make. According to the FBI, guns top the list of stolen items thieves target in home burglaries. Alcohol, cigarettes and prescription medicine rank second, followed by video equipment (TVs, cameras and recorders). Stereo equipment comes in at No. 4, and rounding out the Top 5 are jewelry and cash. All of the above can be stored securely in a quality gun safe, protected not only from thieves, but from a catastrophic fire, as well.

If your main concern is protecting children from an accidental discharge or transporting guns safely within the home or vehicle, other options are available, such as quick-access pistol boxes and minimum-security safes and strongboxes. These allow you quick access to weapons in the event of a break-in, but do little to stop a determined thief.

A gun safe buys you time against thieves and fire. Most break-ins last 10 minutes or less, and a gun safe buys you time as police are dispatched. These break-ins are typically during business hours when no one’s home ”between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., and thieves don’t want to still be in the home when the police arrive.

Yet, generally speaking, the more security features a gun safe has, the better. Realistically, fire poses more of a threat to your guns than does theft. There is an average of nearly 400,000 residential fires annually, which translates to billions of dollars in property loss each year. Fireproof insulation is critical, and several types are available.

The more you know about the various theft- and fire-prevention features available for gun safes, the better informed you will be when purchasing a gun safe. Here are the six things you need to know about fire protection.
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>> No. 16567 ID: e7f332
>>14154

Dan Bilzerian should have had that on his safe.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/dan-bilzerian-los-angeles-cops-took-guns-without-w/?page=all
>> No. 16573 ID: 52ed6e
  >>15907
A seriously massive con of this is the mechanical override lock is a tubular lock which is ridiculously easy to pick if you own a $10 tubular lockpick.

If a safe has a wafer lock or a tubular lock, figure out a way to replace said lock with something actually good or buy something different. Wafer locks especially, you can pick those open with a screwdriver.
>> No. 16576 ID: 254d85
>>14154
>magnet

A engraved plaque of high-hardness stainless that can be welded or riveted on would be a far better option.
>> No. 16590 ID: 3254ec
>>12788
I just hope by then intra-stellar or even interstellar space travel is a thing so men yearning to be free can carve out their own corner of the system/galaxy (and eventually cleanse the eatrth with a kinetic kill vehicle)
>> No. 16591 ID: 3254ec
>>11560
The biggest problem I have with these kind of safes (couchsafe and bedsafe) is they are in the worst position for a crowbar/breaker bar attack, and it's not terribly effective concealment - it's something a hired home cleaner would easily run into.


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17825 No. 17825 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Anyone have any idea who makes this jacket/knows of any similar products?
>> No. 17826 ID: 044fd0
Looks like something Mil-Tec would make.
>> No. 17827 ID: 6e9743
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17827
The brown lines resemble East German camouflage.
Strichmuster (line pattern) is a very simple pattern incorporating long, slender brown rain straits on a light greyish-green background. http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=East_Germany
- East German NVA belt buckle - Feldkoppel der Nationalen Volksarmee der DDR.
>> No. 17922 ID: 1a2172
I could have sworn I saw a pattern very similar to this on a jacket on either cabelas site or basspro.

Check those places. I almost bought it, I thought it looked very similar to the German rain camp or whatever it is.
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17925
>>17922
Cabela's "Outfitter" camo maybe? henceforth referred to as outfitterflage. Lacks the East German style rain line thingies, but similar concept.


Their space space rain jackets are pretty bitchin for their purpose if you can get them on sale or ebay bee tee dubs. I wish they made them in gray or brown or something. I had to get one in their dorky new "Octane" camo to get it cheap.
>> No. 17960 ID: f11f4d
>>17825
I just want to say, I love the colors on that rifle.
They're a mess, but it looks like they end up working perfectly together out in scrub.


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16816 No. 16816 ID: 2ed649 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Getting real tired of my rucksack. I have a MOLLE ruck with the standard frame, and that shit keeps fucking with me after a while.

I've been thinking of getting another pack. A lot of guys, I've seen with ALICE packs, with the standard frame. It seems to work for them, and most of them are old-timers, so I pay attention to their opinions a bit more.

However, I've been looking at the 1606 frame. I have a spare MOLLE ruck that I'm able to modify to my heart's content. Anyone have experience with this? I know it says that it isn't the best frame for it, but I assume it's because the MOLLE ruck lacks the frame pocket at the top. I can always sew one in, or not, depending on how it works.

Or should I simply get an ALICE? In either case, I'd rather not have the metal frame. It looks pretty uncomfortable.
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>> No. 16820 ID: bd9939
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16820
Never tried the plastic frames, but I once built one of those "hellcat" alice packs using the "molle II" ruck kidney pad and shoulder straps. It still sucked, but it was much, much nicer than the original ALICE equipment, and worked as okayish as can be expected with a plate carrier. Still they're nothing but a money pit with little to no payoff.

Got the old 3 color desert stuff off of ebay for super cheap and dyed it. Came out kind of a blueish green, but it worked fine.

Seriously though, if you can save pennies and swing for a used/sale price Mystery Ranch, Kuiu, Kifaru, Hill People Gear etc. They will last for a long, long time and your body will thank you.
>> No. 16821 ID: 2ed649
>>16820
I'll probably save up for something like that for now, I'll try this frame as an improvement. Planning to keep the kidney belt and straps either way, but the ALICE looks like it takes too much work. I could get a MALICE pack, but at that point, I might just buy a high-quality rucksack.
>> No. 17893 ID: f36974
>>16820
you gotta really wrestle with alice packs to make em' fit right

you usually are gonna have to tighten the waist belt a little higher than normal than most packs

packing your gear correctly in an alice pack is absolutely essential

they can't handle much past 45 lbs unless you are packing them really really well

when you first put the alice pack on, tighten the shoulders and loosen the waist belt. Make sure the waist belt is sitting on top of your kidneys and hips. Then tighten the waist belt. Then loosen the shoulders so the frame goes near vertical. Keep playing with it that way until you feel the best distribution. Alice packs aren't gonna be like regular hiking packs, and their weight distribution (most people like 90% on hips 10% on shoulds or 80/20%) is gonna be 75/25% or maybe less

great for hunting in cold weather though cause no zippers but they aren't very waterproof
>> No. 17921 ID: 622449
>>16817
> not adapting molle II straps to your ALICE
>> No. 17940 ID: 880526
>>16820

I'm in the process of building a Devil Cat mod. The only difference is that I'm using a FILBE main pack instead of an ALICE. The only thing I'm waiting on is the frame, which should arrive over the weekend.


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17930 No. 17930 ID: 47660b hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Snek
>> No. 17931 ID: 95e359
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17931
I have actually started cruising kinder/k/ quite a bit to keep up with the patches being produces. Some of them are really god damn neat-o.
Forgive the animu.
Also here's a pastebin of the stores if you would like to browse the numerous stores. Woodptach, Crimson, and Skinwalker are of particular interest IMO.
http://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD


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17917 No. 17917 ID: 854024 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Dear Operators,

stupid fucking question to those who might have hands-on experience:

will this dropleg magazine panel: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eagle-Industries-UMP-3-Mag-Drop-Leg-Black-Duty-Pouch-SWAT-Police-FBI-LE-SMG-/152164899367?hash=item236dbc1a27:g:cD0AAOSwl-FXNMrh

hold MP5 magazines SECURELY? or due to larger size of UMP45 magazines the MP5 mags might just slip out under the loose flap (and most likely will)?
>> No. 17919 ID: 5fdcaa
I own the Eagle industries MP5 .40 3 mag drop leg pouch, it does hold the 9mm 33rd
Glock magazines securely.


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