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16919 No. 16919 ID: 8b02b7 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Everyone loves playing in water, and there's usually a few threads on how to collect and filter it. What about those times and place we don't want water?

I'm looking at options to keep my gear, and if possible myself dry. Specifically looking for some dry sacks, they need to be worthy of river trips, not just rain.

I've also been looking at frog tog rain suits since they are incredibly light.

Something to keep a cell phone dry would be awesome.

What are you using and what would recommend to stay dry when it counts?

Currently, I'm using a poncho. It keeps the rain out.
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>> No. 16943 ID: bd9939
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>>16942
In retrospect that particular jacket is probably not optimal for OP's needs and he would probably be best sticking to specialized Mountain Hardwear/Outdoor Research etc, but their stuff is reallllly nice in general.

Not to derail the thread, but I'm not sure if their patterns are most comparable to multicam/kryptek/ for use involving people or if it's more in line with Gore's Optifade patterns designed around how deer and ducks and shit see. Would be kind of interesting to see some testing.

It's all elitist goatee dudebro hunting gear, but God it is nice to wear/pack if you get discounts on it.
>tfw I can get just about anything BUT Kuiu "cheap". Not like First Lite and Sitka are bad at all, but...
>> No. 16945 ID: 9dc901
>>16943

Yea, the things that would prevent me from getting it are the price and the fact that ordering clothes online you can't try out beforehand is a bad idea. Especially when combined with the first issue.
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Reminder if you've been divorced and decided to assault Sealand in one last desperate gamble, then you might be interested in the S.P.E.A.R. LBE system with integral flotation padding.
>> No. 16967 ID: eafc11
  If OPERATORchan tried some to get froggy with Sealand, we'd get our collective shit pushed in. It would be a disasterous rout.
>> No. 16968 ID: d8acd0
  Sealand https://youtu.be/m6OisB56whg
A riveting tale of disaster and heroism. Russian mafia posing as Sealand diplomats, running illegal guns. Mass hysteria!


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16711 No. 16711 ID: c06ad3 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Hey peoples, I'd like to know your opinions on pants. More specificly what material would be suitable for every day comfort, but durable and water resistant enough (either that or quick drying) for a SHTF scenario?

Any particular brands you folks go by?
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>> No. 16916 ID: 4aaaa0
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>> No. 16917 ID: 4aaaa0
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Finally found some HR photos of Rob MacPherson's black and gold English-style armor.
>> No. 16918 ID: dda126
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>>16901
Das shit, SHIT! Almain rivets have much more of the PMC flair that OPchan stands for.
>> No. 16936 ID: 4aaaa0
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>>16905
Found the appropriate car for that guy to drive to tournaments in.
>> No. 16964 ID: 3d25a3
>>16918
Last I checked, opchan didn't stand for being flatly inferior.


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16950 No. 16950 ID: 4aaaa0 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Armor.
Portrait of a young Soviet POW in a steel breastplate SN-42, made of 2mm steel (.08") and weighing 3.5 kg (7.7 lbs), captured by Finnish troops during the Finnish-Soviet Continuation War. A testament to the breastplate’s effectiveness, the young soldier had been shot three times in the chest and left unharmed. Near Syskyjärvi, Karelia, Finland (now, Syuskyuyarvi, Republic of Karelia, Russia.) 15 July 1944. Image taken by Esko Töyri. http://histomil.com/viewtopic.php?t=3918&start=5540
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>> No. 16957 ID: 4aaaa0
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There were some brave men, back then.
>> No. 16958 ID: 4aaaa0
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>> No. 16959 ID: 4aaaa0
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German WW1 'Infanterie-Panzer, 1918' sentry armor & Stirnpanzer helmet armor attachment.
>> No. 16960 ID: 4aaaa0
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An aircrewman with the 743rd Bomb Group standing in front of B-24H Liberator ‘TePee Time Gal’ wearing typical protective clothing, San Giovanni Airfield, Foggia, Italy, 1944-45.

The airgunner on the picture is Major David G. Bellemere and behind him is the B-24 Liberator heavy bomber ‘Tepee Time Gal’. He’s wearing the typical flight clothing: M4 flak helmet with Polaroid B-8 goggles, flak jacket, F-2 electrical flying suit with B-3 jacket, A-14 oxygen mask, the gloves and ugg airmen boots. http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/airgunner-b24-bomber-1944/
>> No. 16963 ID: 044fd0
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>>16951

My guess would be that he caught a burst from a Suomi M31. Though it's claimed the SN-42 will stop rifle and machinegun rounds past 300 meters I'm a bit skeptical.

Have some experimental Canadian armor.


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16671 No. 16671 ID: c550c6 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Step 1: Acquire parts as follows;
Objective Lens $125
Blemished Gen 2 MX-10130 Tube $215
PVS-7 Body w/ wiring assembly and rear eye piece $366
Collimator $75
Screws and o-rings $21

Total: $802
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>> No. 16883 ID: c550c6
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Even came with the cleaning q-tips still in their original bag and the manual in pristine condition.
>> No. 16940 ID: d0041a
>>16876
Very nice.
What's the deal with PAQ-4C's anyway? Did they come after PEQ-2's?
When I was in my unit went from PEQ-2's straight to peq-15's
What are the issues of the PEQ2 and PAQ in comparison and to the new Peq15/ATPIAL?
>> No. 16947 ID: c550c6
>>16940
>What's the deal with PAQ-4C's anyway? Did they come after PEQ-
2's?

Before.

>What are the issues of the PEQ2 and PAQ in comparison and to the new Peq15/ATPIAL?

Less features, weighed more, took up more room on a rail, I would imagine cost to the Govt may have been less(?).
>> No. 16948 ID: c550c6
>>16947
*more cost for PEQ-2 than a PEQ-15
>> No. 16961 ID: 08f745
Pac4 was purely a aim pointer, with remote and on-housing switch. Intended originally for standard M16 use. I think the C variant brought use of remote switches.

Peq-2 brought a more rugged combination IR laser/illumination aiming system. You had caps that you could use to either change pointer styles for identification of say, a squad leader's aim point for where you should be shooting, as well as multiple intensity and settings with regards to laser, laser+illuminator, or laser, laser+illuminator in non-eyesafe full power mode. You had adjustable focus for the illuminator and as it was aimable as well, you could tighten its beam down and use it as your aiming point if your primary laser broke or got occluded or something.

Things got cheaper once that shit was figured out, then the 15 came along and combined multiple features with even more modern technologies to facilitate what you have today.


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16740 No. 16740 ID: c3e6b2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I hopped on group buy/deal for the ballistic helmet and after multiple tries I just can no get the Howard Leight Impact Sport ear pro to work with it. So I am looking for electronic ear pro suggestions - I've looked at the Peltor ComTac II which seems to be common respond to the "I want a good ear pro that work with helmet"

Are there other options? I ordered these to see if I can adapt them to work with Impact Sport.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Airsoft-FMA-Fast-Helmet-Rail-Adapter-Set-BK-DE-FG-Swat-Ops-Core-Peltor-Headset-/111441324586?var=&hash=item19f26baa2a:m:mBX3TQaDIQ-YKF8J7Yxq6AA
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>> No. 16937 ID: 9dcda2
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>>16750
> Quick question from me - why exactly are these headphones mounted on the helmet rails

To echo what BTDT and OPERATOR mentioned, They're super comfy and help to keep your helmet on.

I have to wear a hard hat at work most of the time, and I've got ear muffs like pic related. I also have a head light strapped to my hat, so it's my ear pro, dome pro, and my light source all in one.
>> No. 16939 ID: 08f745
>>16937

Exactly the same thing I did when I worked at the mine, except that I doubled up on earpro in the mill as it was loud as shit, and jacked my active muffs into my radio so I could hear all traffic as necessary.

The mill maintenance folks always loved when I would come around, because they were dealing with shit D-cell flashlights or small Petzl style headlamps on their helmets.

I had a Princeton Tec Apex I had mounted on my dome. That fucker was daylight compared to the shit they were having to deal with, and it just made things easier to get done. Also was brighter for going downhole (Underground mine) and I'd bring with me a mining lamp, but I'd use mine as it was worlds better.
>> No. 16944 ID: 9dcda2
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>>16939
> Princeton Tec Apex
275 lumens? Git some.

I've got a Fenix HL50 strapped to my hard hat. It works great when it's got a fresh battery, but when the batt gets low, there's a random time delay as it tries to build voltage. I've had it come on minutes later while I'm talking to someone, and have it shine right in their face.

Everyone looks at me weird, until the power goes out and I'm the only one with two flashlights. (Which happens a lot... at power plants...)

I've found that the 60 lumen medium setting is just a bit much when working with your hands. 50 would be dead on. My buddy bought a XTAR H1 Commander which also works well, and has a very nice neutral white LED.
>> No. 16946 ID: 08f745
>>16944

Yeah, that thing's getting towards silly bright. There's a reason it has a fuckhuge radiator built onto the backside... and needs a 4 AA battery pack offsetting it with 2 band strap (round the head and over the nugget).

It does have low power options both for the primary spot beam as well as the 4 area lights, so you're not on AGHMYEYES mode the whole time, although it's fun since it kicks on in death star mode. It would be cooler if it had a Pthewwwwwww sound when it turned on like an energy rifle having a magazine slapped in it or something.

Regarding the batteries for yours, the Apex is nice in that it has a low battery warning, but between different intensity for the spot as well as the floods it has lower voltage failover modes so you can milk those batteries till they're totally done, or you don't need a light anymore because you're done.

I also still really like Streamlight Sidewinders, as the combination of multiple colors (white spot, red/green/blue floods all by physical toggle)as well as intensity levels by holding down the switch, plus a rotation capable head and a clip that allows hands-free either by tossing it on an epaulet/hat brim/helmet bolt/MOLLE/whatever or setting it down with it rotated where you need light.

Then there's my Final Solution of my Fire Vulcan LED. Yeah, it's only 160ish lumens, but it's a tight as fuck beam that cuts through airborne contaminants, has a really nice charging base, and the rear LED's are nice for using it as a stroll-about light. Plus a seatbelt buckled shoulderstrap since it's intended as a grab off the truck firefighter's light.

When I still wore turnouts, I had a Fire Vulcan on my side, Survivor LED on my chest, and a Vantage mounted on my helmet. I looked like a zombie apoc rave with all my lights on, but at least I could find my way to victims and/or the fuck out of a building if I needed to bail out. Yeah, I like my streamlights. Still need a new battery for my Stinger LED, and I'd like to get some Ultrastinger LED's. Rechargeable lights are just fucking handy, especially since I hardmounted chargers in each vehicle we have had. That way, I always knew beyond the wally world floodish/laser cheapo lights I keep in each vehicle, I also had a Mean Beam onboard if I needed it.
>> No. 16949 ID: 53e7c0
>>16946
Yeah. Just for the hell of it I bought a thousand lumen flashlight the other day. Out in the woods or for some X-FILEs shit, it'd be great, but it's actually utility is pretty low, as you can't point it at anything reflective. Even if you hold out your hand on in front of it it'll reflect enough that your eyes won't like it.


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16784 No. 16784 ID: 6372b6 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I gotta say, a shemagh and a cheap 3M half-mask worked out fucking brilliant for not fogging up glasses. Decently comfy, kept face warm all day, sunglasses never even hinted at wanting to fog. Steam coming out of side exhaust ports looked kinda cool too, and the difference in cheek rest is minimal.

Downside is reduced field of view on things directly under you. Even then, I give this an 8/10 will use until I fabricobble something with some sort of silicone face mold+scarf+breathing tube or something.

Winter gear thread I guess. Looking for good convertible mitts too, if anyone uses them and has recommendations, I would be thankful.
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>> No. 16822 ID: 4d876f
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I am not a big comic book guy but the bad guy in Hellboy's mask was awesome looking
>> No. 16823 ID: 2a7640
>>16804
>>16809
So, is Kanye West just wearing modern polycarbonate versions of these? Is he just a retro futuristic operator?
>> No. 16825 ID: 06a0fb
>>16823
Well, I mean, Inuit people have been using the same idea for millennia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_snow_goggles
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>>16825
Why you did not include this fantastic picture is beyond me.
- Inuit goggles made from caribou antler with caribou sinew for a strap.
Joking aside, snow blindness is a serious hazard when out in the snow and the bright sun is reflecting off it in an intensely bright way.
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Wooden snow goggles and case, Inuit, North America, 1801-190

Snow blindness is caused by sunlight reflecting off white snow and ice. This painful condition causes temporary loss of vision. The Inuit people in North America wore goggles to shield their eyes from such glare. These goggles are made from pine and rawhide. Slits in the rawhide eye pieces let the wearer see. They are kept in a wooden case decorated with hunting scenes.


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16185 No. 16185 ID: c3e6b2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I went to Dragon Con and saw the Tactical Boba Fett cosplay which got me thinking maybe putting together a group cosplay thing using current gun gears. These are what I have come up so far...
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>> No. 16242 ID: c3e6b2
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>>16190
>>16191
>>16192
Never thought about how easy it is to do Han Solo costume (see pic)


>>16241
Here you go

http://feminism.meetup.com/
>> No. 16243 ID: c550c6
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>>16242

Were going to need a bigger starship.
>> No. 16246 ID: 3c5609
>>16188
I would be lying if I said I didn't want it.

I've looked into them. They're not just AR's that just so happen to be rigged up crossbows. They are actually pretty good crossbows. Very accurate and hits hard as fuck. (very pricey though)
>> No. 16758 ID: b2b233
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>Heckler & Koch, AR500 Armor, SOG Knives & Tools SureFire, LLC Team Wendy Armasight, Inc.., Trijicon, Inc.. TEA Headsets Wilcox Industries Corp. Metalhead Photography

http://www.galac-tac.com/home.html
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>>16193
No, there is only one logical option for luke.


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16733 No. 16733 ID: 81c52b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Anyone know where I can find some Plate Carrier sewing patterns or plans? I've been thinking about making a night desert plate carrier in my spare time for a fun little side project.

This pic was the only thing I could dig up, just looking for something so I'm not taking a complete shot in the dark.
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>> No. 16739 ID: e649f7
>>16737
I actually kicked around making a plate carrier for curved AR500 plates that would ride under a hoodie. My "design" was basically trace the plates, give it a healthy margin, cut a front and the back out of denim, sew three sides and give the top a velcro strip. I'd make a second for the back and then box stitch some backpack straps with padding.

(Yes I know it'd be uncomfortable)
>> No. 16755 ID: 53b610
>>16739
Did you ever start on it? Pics of it in progress would be much appreciated. I might try out the same thing with some old pants or shirts to get the idea/pattern down before I destroy some good camo. I'd like to see someone else's trial and error as well :)


And HOLY SHIT, I looked at air soft plate carriers, some of the cool knock off ones are fucking crazy expensive $100-150 even $200. Why would anyone buy knock offs when you can get a Banshee Shellback, Mayflower APC or even a used LBT in that range? Airsofters are nuts
>> No. 16759 ID: e649f7
>>16755
Afraid I haven't gotten to it yet but honestly I see no reason why it wouldn't work. Denim is cheap though ($10/yard) so you won't be out much.
>> No. 16760 ID: 404fbd
>>16755
Yes, it really doesnt make any sense buying airsoft-tier stuff versus something proper quality on the second hand market
>> No. 16761 ID: 404fbd
>>16755
Yes, it really doesnt make any sense buying airsoft-tier stuff versus something proper quality on the second hand market


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16745 No. 16745 ID: 67a2be hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Anyone here use hammocks while camping/backpacking? Are there any recommendations or pitfalls to using one as opposed to a bag, pad, and bivvy?
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>> No. 16747 ID: 9f6b04
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I've been using a Hennesy for many years; it's pretty much replaced ground tents for me maybe 99% of the time. In fact, the only time I break out the old ground tent is if I'm camping with someone else.

General pros:

Lighter. #1 reason I started camping in one. My prior ground tent was a lightweight Nemo with air tubes so it wasn't like it was a yurt... aaaaand the hammock I have *with* everything I keep with it is still half the weight at just over a kilo. With snakeskins (just waterproof tubes/stuff sacks) it collapses down in a couple seconds and can be hastily tied like a fat rope to gear.

Versatile. You're not limited to trees, either. They work as a bivvy sack and lots of other things only limited by imagination. Rain flys can double as (or just BE) a poncho and all the other tarp like things, while saving you the weight of whatever you would've brought there.

Comfy. Personal opinion but after decades of trying to scrape a spot outta the ground like a cat, rocking back and forth in the air while all toasty is too much luxury to go back. On cold winter days, you can tend a low fire down to hot coals and then carefully adjust the hammock height so you're sleeping over all that radiant heat.

General cons:

Not many I can honestly think of. The first one is siting: you don't *have* to have two trees but it helps. You can use it as a ground tent of course if you run out of trees... but what are you doing running out of trees oh god get back below treeline you're going to die.

It's also really a solo deal unless you're cuddly enough with your partner they literally are you. It's impossible, of course, to not effect the other person with the slightest movement. Some chicks dig it. Some think they do until reality kicks in and after the second night you're sleeping in a lean-to built next to the hammock.
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>> No. 16748 ID: 9f6b04
>>16746

+10000000 on using a carabiner and two rap rings/side.

I can't even begin to calculate the hours I've saved over the years between that set up and having snakeskins.

>get to camp site
>oh look two trees
>already have a bonfire going and half a log cabin built by the time the first ground tent is getting poles strung.
>> No. 16751 ID: 044fd0
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ENO Doublenest with Atlas straps. Is the best place to while away a hot summer afternoon with a good book.

Biggest con is that they get cold. If you hang there long enough it's quite possible to start feeling chilly even in 90° weather. Needs lots of padding to counteract. Another potential issue is that they don't offer much privacy, even with a tarp drawn way down over it if you're at a popular camping ground, festival or what-have-you. Drunken/stoned concert/festival goers seem to like to stare at people napping in hammocks. Especially when it's night and you left a light on in your campsite so your companions can find their way back.
>> No. 16753 ID: 79b400
I gotta support ENO hammocks, they're quality gear and very lightweight.
>> No. 16754 ID: ae87b5
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I use a Hennessy hammock for camping, it's really the lightest way to go.

Pros: Light, quick to set up, comfy as fuck once you get settled in. Keeps you off the ground where critters like to scurry.

Cons: You need to find a relatively ideal place to set up. If you're in the woods, chances are you can find a good spot. Even "two person" hammocks are not really for two people. If you fuck up your setup you may fall out of your trees.

Temperature control is not really a con. You have the same problems in a tent, and cold ground will suck the heat out of you faster than cold (still) air under a hammock. Wind though under your hammock will fuck you up - but all you need is a little know how to prevent that. Essentially, if it's cold you are building yourself a cocoon, which means a water and wind barrier ie garden variety tarp and some insulation, usually in the form of an underquilt. A hammock + underquilt + rainfly or tarp is still less bulky than a similar tent outlay. If you're very worried or delicate, you can use a pad in your hammock too, I recommend an inflatable one. You can bring a sleeping bag, but remember that your underquilt essentially makes the entire hammock a sleeping bag.

Honestly, there is a lot of shit you learn just by going and trying it once, but I haven't met anyone who doesn't prefer it to tents if there are sufficient things to hang from.

Pic related, steady downpour overnight, ground was moderately flooded when I woke up but I was dry because I was 3 feet in the air. A tent situation would have been much different.


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16430 No. 16430 ID: dda126 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Thinking about the Gerber Ghostrike but I can't find what max belt width those loops will accept. Hope it will fit my 1.75" Gearsmith belts?
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>> No. 16603 ID: 087d66
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>>16602

As far as belt compatibility goes, I don't see anyone having any real issue. It fits just right on an old 1.75 inch belt I had left over from the air force.

All in all, I dig it. It's a cool little knife. I haven't really done much with it or even carried it at all for that matter, but i'm looking forward to putting it through it's paces.
>> No. 16604 ID: dda126
>>16603
>sneaking in your Galil into the picture

You are worse than Hitler man.

;_;
>> No. 16614 ID: dda126
>>16600
>>16601
>>16602
Thx for pics though. I hope you don't get the sanser now.... ;_;
>> No. 16624 ID: 087d66
>>16614
Don't you worry your pretty little head.
>> No. 16730 ID: b6558e
looks to be only suitable for manlets. I use the ka-bar hindrance in a custom kydex sheath horizontal carry and couldn't be happier. ka-bar tdi used for backup.


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