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11545 No. 11545 ID: 263d6c
10 THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING A GUN SAFE
Posted on April 12, 2011 by GunWorld
By Steve Quinlan http://www.gunworld.com/buyers-guides/accessories/10-things-to-consider-when-buying-a-gun-safe/
Gun safes protect guns and other valuables from theft and fire. Here are 10 things to consider before purchasing one.

In this economy, a gun safe is one of the wisest investments you can make. According to the FBI, guns top the list of stolen items thieves target in home burglaries. Alcohol, cigarettes and prescription medicine rank second, followed by video equipment (TVs, cameras and recorders). Stereo equipment comes in at No. 4, and rounding out the Top 5 are jewelry and cash. All of the above can be stored securely in a quality gun safe, protected not only from thieves, but from a catastrophic fire, as well.

If your main concern is protecting children from an accidental discharge or transporting guns safely within the home or vehicle, other options are available, such as quick-access pistol boxes and minimum-security safes and strongboxes. These allow you quick access to weapons in the event of a break-in, but do little to stop a determined thief.

A gun safe buys you time against thieves and fire. Most break-ins last 10 minutes or less, and a gun safe buys you time as police are dispatched. These break-ins are typically during business hours when no one’s home ”between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., and thieves don’t want to still be in the home when the police arrive.

Yet, generally speaking, the more security features a gun safe has, the better. Realistically, fire poses more of a threat to your guns than does theft. There is an average of nearly 400,000 residential fires annually, which translates to billions of dollars in property loss each year. Fireproof insulation is critical, and several types are available.

The more you know about the various theft- and fire-prevention features available for gun safes, the better informed you will be when purchasing a gun safe. Here are the six things you need to know about fire protection.
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1. BOLT LOCKING SYSTEM

The “bolts” are what lock the door securely to the frame (or body) of the safe. They are thick, steel bolts that extend from the door and into the frame behind the door jamb that lock the door securely when the locking handle is turned. The more bolts, the merrier. Also, the longer and thicker the bolts, the better.

The term “bolt coverage” refers to how many sides of the door have locking bolts. Many gun safes use bolts on just the one side of the door opposite the side with the hinges. Yet, the best-case scenario would be many bolts on every side of the door, as this would eliminate any chance of a thief prying the safe open by ensuring the tightest possible seal, and it would also prevent the safe from warping in the event of a fire.

- Liberty Safes’ Presidential 50 holds up 39 guns, weighs in at 1,565 pounds and offers 2½ hours of fire protection. Check out the exceptional boltwork in the doors.
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2. METAL THICKNESS

How much is enough in terms of frame thickness? Gun safe bodies are typically 12 to 7 gauge (.081- to .144-inch), and sometimes as thick as 3 gauge (.2391-inch). Stay away from 12 gauge; 10 gauge should be very minimum, but we would recommend 8 gauge or thicker. What’s the good of having strategically placed bolts for locking the door to the frame if the frame is so thin it can be bent away from the bolts with a couple of pry bars?

Ditto for the door thickness. Most thieves attack the door, so the thicker the door and the sides it has bolts in, the better. We recommend 5/16-inch (.3125-inch) or thicker. More on door construction as it relates to fire protection later.

3. ANTI-PRY TABS

Speaking of prying, anti-pry tabs, which are reinforced brackets located along the top and bottom of the pin-bar brackets, are said to increase a safe’s protection against a pry attack by up to 300 percent. Most of the reputable safe manufacturers equip their safes with anti-pry tabs and gussets on the inside of the door.

4. LOCKS

Three types of locks are available for gun safes: mechanical, electronic keypad and biometric. Mechanical (or dial) locks that open by dialing a combination on a hand-turned wheel. They have no electrical parts and therefore require no power source. Three- and four-wheel locks are the most popular mechanical locks, and they are considered the most reliable safe locks available.

Electronic locks, which are usually powered by 9-volt batteries, provide quicker access than mechanical locks and allow you to change the combination, which is probably why they are more popular than mechanical locks.

Simply enter a numeric combination on a keypad and you are in. Some allow you to input multiple-user combinations. Their only drawback is that they will not open in the event of a dead battery. However, they do retain the combination/s. Batteries are usually accessible, but not always. When they are, you simply replace them and you’re good to go. You might want to think twice about buying a safe with an electronic lock whose battery is not accessible.

Biometric locks provide even quicker access by using biological recognition technology, which allows for the use of fingerprint rather than a digital or mechanical combination to open them. Just put your finger over the scanner and the lock opens.
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A couple more tips regarding locks: Look for UL-listed locks that employ spring-loaded re-lockers. Avoid American-made digital locks work great. Among the most reputable are LA GARD and Sargent and Greenleaf. Stay away from Chinese-made digital locks.

5. LOCKING MECHANISMS
The actual mechanisms that lock, rather than unlock the safe, can be broken down into three types: direct-drive cam, over-center cam and gear-drive over center mechanism. Of the three, the over-center cam best protects the lock against side bolt punching.

Some models employ a slip clutch mechanism that prevents the lock from breaking in the event the handle is torqued. Such models use heavy-duty linkage capable of withstanding an incredible amount of torque through the handle without suffering any damage to the lock system or bolts.

6. RELOCKERS
A re-locker is a spring-loaded trigger mechanism that locks out the safe’s bolt system when any kind of tampering is detected. Most commonly, they take the form of small, hardened pins that are positioned along the boltwork in the door and when fired, they snap securely into pre-drilled holes in the frame.

If the locking mechanism is drilled, punched or torched, or its back plate is punched off, the safe’s mechanism will lock up permanently, keeping the locking bolts from retracting. The safe will remain locked even if the lock has been completely destroyed. Some safe manufacturers offer models with two relocking systems. Again: There’s always safety in numbers.

7. HARDPLATES
A hardplate is a small plate located between the door and the lock and it designed to protect the lock from drilling attacks. Hardplates are made of dense material designed to destroy drills. The more layers, the better.

Some upper-end safes are equipped with a glass relocker that shatters and locks up the mechanism when drilled. Some go the extra distance by employing two hardplates: one for protecting the lock and the other for protecting the independent relocker or one big hardplate to protect the entire area.
>> No. 11549 ID: 263d6c
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8. FIRE RATINGS
Residential fires usually reach 1,200 degrees Fahrenheit rather quickly. After that, windows blow out and holes emerge in the roof, so temperatures don’t typically get any hotter. Still, it takes time for the Fire Department to arrive and put the fire out, so buying time is the key.

Different safe companies use different laboratories to test and rate their safes in terms of how long they can prevent internal contents from reaching flashpoint temperatures of less than 350 degrees.

In case you were wondering, paper chars at 402 degrees. Also, electronic media, such as CDs, tapes, etc., will lose information when subjected to intense heat. We recommend storing them in a firebox or media cooler within the safe to keep them from reaching temperatures exceeding 125 degrees.

Still, none of these tests take radiant heat into consideration, which is the biggest killer of safes. Oven tests don’t measure cool-down time, so there are a lot of discrepancies among ratings, as they can be manipulated.

The average rating is 30 minutes at 1,200 degrees, while the average fire lasts 25 to 45 minutes. Yet 75 to 80 percent of gun safes are rated for 30 minutes. How smart is that? Anyone living in an urban area would be wise to buy a safe with a minimum fire rating of 60 minutes.

Keep in mind, however, that the farther you live from the city, the longer the wait and the less probability firefighters will arrive in time to save the house. So, if you live in an urban dwelling, it would be wise to purchase a safe with a two-hour rating.

9. FIRE LINER PROTECTION
Just like metal thickness, the more fire-liner protection, the merrier—especially in the door and ceiling. A generous amount of water-retaining insulation sandwiched between two thin layers of sheetmetal behind a heavy-gauge layer of steel body armor, is the best possible barrier against heat damage.

The most commonly used firewall used in gun safes is gypsum board, otherwise known as sheetrock. Some manufacturers use two layers. Other firewall protection includes ceramic wool and a mixture cement and vermiculite.

The various manufacturers we interviewed stated their cases for the fire protection they employ; many pointed out the drawbacks of the barrier they are not using. Sturdy Safes, for example, offers protection consisting of an outer barrier of 7-gauge steel backed by 1 inch of 2,300-degree ceramic wool and 2 inches of 1,000-degree high-temp glass compressed by a 14-gauge steel inner liner.

10. HEAT-EXPANDING DOOR SEALS
An effective safe should also have a heat-expanding door seal placed around the door frame. Palusol is the industry standard. It can expand up to nine times its original size during a fire to block out heat and smoke.

Palusol gaskets should be custom fit to each safe to ensure there are no air gaps. What’s important to remember is that the less gap, the better for keeping out heat and smoke, and to prevent prying.

- Photos show a Champion safe that was in a house fire. As you can see even though this safe was in a severe fire the contents of the safe not only survived they were not damaged. http://www.agunsafe.com/
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SIZE AND LOCATION

Always buy bigger than what you need. You’ll find that you are always adding more guns, ammo and the like, and it doesn’t take long to fill a safe when your spouse is adding photo albums, jewelry, etc. Some manufacturers offer side-by-side his/her models to eliminate that problem.

Location is another issue. Although gun safes come in a variety of attractive colors and custom wraps are available it’s probably wiser to put the safe somewhere out of sight. The more time a thief has to spend looking for the safe, the less time he will have to try to open it.

Finally, there are pros and cons for both internal and external hinges. Some would argue that external hinges allow the door to open wider, providing for greater access. Others would argue that internal hinges prevent a thief from cutting or torching the hinges while providing additional protection against door prying. Still, a good, well-protected locking system is the key to safeguarding your safe against an attack.
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BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE

One of the many manufacturers we spoke with, Sturdy Safes, argues that when determining a safe’s fire rating, controlled laboratory testing doesn’t always paint the entire picture.

The Central Valley Arson School, located near Fresno, California, was started by fire investigator Jim Jones and provides training several steps above what firefighters normally receive. Typically, a home that has been marked for demolition is selected as a guinea pig for fire training. Those comprised of the most wood rate highest on the list.

The home is completely furnished as it would be if it were occupied, and Sturdy Safes was allowed to place several safes comprised of different fire linings and other components within the home to conduct its own testing. Class begins with a fire started from the TV set, which is allowed to burn for two minutes before the Fire Department puts it out. The school trainees are then sent in to investigate the source of the fire.

At the end of the day, all of the windows and doors are knocked out, and they even punch holes in the roof so that rollover occurs in just two minutes. The house is doused with 30 gallons of kerosene, and then set ablaze. The result is an accelerated burn, where temperatures reach peaks faster, and with all of the wood, the house burns even longer all the way to the ground.

According to Sturdy Safes, radiant heat isn’t something you can measure in lab tests. You have to allow the house to burn to the ground and then allow the safe to cool to determine when something in the safe fails. Some of the safes failed, and some didn’t, but that is how they determined the thickness of their safes, the fire liner and other components they use in their safes today.
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Browning safes www.browning.com

Cannon Safes www.cannonsafe.com

Graffunder Safes www.graffundersafes.com

Liberty Safes www.libertysafe.com

Patriot Safes www.patriotsafe.com

Stealth Safe Company www.stealthsafeco.com

Sturdy Safes www.sturdysafe.com

Winchester Safes www.winchestersafes.com

Zanotti Armor www.zanottiarmor.com
>> No. 11553 ID: 263d6c
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Here's an example of the locking mechanism of a high-end gun safe.

UNDERSTAND WHAT IS INSIDE YOUR GUN SAFE DOOR

Our new mechanism was introduced as a prototype at the 2012 Sports Inc. & NBS shows. It was recognized immediately for it’s innovative design. They are now in full production. You will find these new upgrades in all of our Crown Series safes . What is so unique about this upgrade? One key aspect is that the internal gear drive more efficiently. It also allows the handle to turn smoothly in the right direction and causes less wear and tear on the mechanism.
This Key feature expands the life of the gears significantly. Another feature to the new mechanism is that it minimizes pressure on the lock. There is no way that this safe can be side punched. With the new Crown Series mechanism you will get longer life on the gears, a smoother feel, and most importantly the kind of security that you will not find in any other safe on the market today! http://championsafes.blogspot.com/2012/05/our-new-mechanism-was-introduced-as.html
>> No. 11554 ID: 263d6c
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The AR34F Breaks New Ground. Browning has been the industry leader and innovator in gun safes for over 27 years. But there has never been a Browning ProSteel safe like the all new AR34F Tactical safe. In fact the AR34F leads in ground breaking innovation and is the first Tactical gun safe ever. And it is perfect for the person who has special guns — tactical guns — that have special storage requirements.
On the outside it has the tactical look you like — black and textured — with the unique look of overhead and side racking. On the inside it is specially designed to handle the odd shapes and sizes and special storage requirements of tactical guns. That means its made for shorter length rifles with different shapes, unique optics and unique buttplate-to-magazine-to-muzzle dimensions. Finally a practical way to secure your AR, M-16, M4, AK, FAL, FNAR, SCAR, or whatever, in a way that makes sense and doesn’t waste valuable space. It is not a beginner’s safe. If you have the goods that need protection from theft and fire, this gun safe excels. If you like the look of black guns, then this gun safe rises to the top. http://huntinglife.com/ar34f-the-most-unique-browning-gun-safe-in-27-years/

The AR34F – Tactical looks and an interior that will conveniently hold both tactical and sporting guns.

MORE FEATURES SPECIALLY CONFIGURED FOR TACTICAL GUN OWNERS
12-gauge steel body
1″ formed steel door
Force Deflector Locking Mechanism
Hardened steel pin lock protection
1″ chromed locking bolts
DPX Storage System
UL tool attack listed
S&G electronic lock
Elevated floor to facilitate removal of guns
Door Frame – U-Channel reinforced steel
1200°/60 min.
Additional Barrel Rests – shorter configuration allows for convenient storage of shorter overall length tactical guns.
Tactical Design Features – The tactical gun owner gets a safe that matches the looks of his guns.
New interior configuration conveniently holds both tactical and sporting guns
External Accessory Rack – conveniently hang your gear outside the safe.
Additional internal storage features – side mounted hooks and tray for top shelf slot
Reinforced patterned rubber bottom panel
Picatinny rail accessory – mounts on shelves
Short gun capacity – interior and door

STANDARD FIRE PROTECTION
1200° F/60 min. fire protection
Three layers of 1/2″ fire-resistant insulation in the body and door
Palusol® expanding fire seal
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>> No. 11556 ID: 263d6c
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SVB500: Speed Vault - Biometric
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Chew your underling out --LIKE A BOSS!
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>> No. 11559 ID: 263d6c
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Gunvault
Known for their adherence with latest technology, Gunvault makes dependable and well priced gun safes. Currently their line consists of biometric safes, small vaults, multi vaults, pistol holster safe, tac vaults and more. Operating for over 20 years in the United States, this company has secured a name for producing high quality gun safes in every conceivable size and shape. With many patented technologies, Gunvault is your perfect tech-friendly gun safe brand. http://www.gunsafecritics.com/
>> No. 11560 ID: 263d6c
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Couch Bunker
Imagine a fire-rated gun safe hidden inside a custom built couch, with bullet proof cushions with carry straps, so they can be used on the fly as a shield. Now there is one.

CouchBunker™ patent pending, is available in a wide range of styles, leather and fabric coverings creating choices from game room casual to living room formal. Charles Alan Inc., a Ft. Worth contract furniture house, makes the couches, to order.

The safe portion is the size of 1/2 a queen sized bed, and weighs 650 pounds. The safe is 78″ long, by 29.5″ wides, and 14″ deep. It is lined with a two-hour fire wall. It is manfuactured by Heracles Corporation, owner of the CouchBunker system. Made in the USA!

The optional bullet resistant cushions, serving as portable, personal shields, will stop a 44 Magnum at point blank range. http://bedgunsafe.com/bedbunkers/couch-bunker/
>> No. 11561 ID: 263d6c
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A friend used an old refrigerator as a gunsafe. Secured it with a padlock on the old but sturdy latch. Sure, a prybar can pop that handle off, but burglars might not bother with it as they might not know this is a gunsafe.

- The first B-9 refrigerator built in Dayton, Ohio, October 10, 1921, is shown here as it came off the assembly line of a subsidiary of General Motors. The old unit sold for more than $700.
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Well, at least it was cheap.
>> No. 11563 ID: 263d6c
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Scenario: burglar makes a home invasion, resident flees through the house with the invader in pursuit, ending in the basement where the resident opens up an old refrigerator. "What, you going to throw a ham at me?" the burglar sneers but the resident pulls out a Springfield M1A SOCOM 16 rifle, racking the top round into the breech. "Step away from the Persian rug. It's silk." is the last thing the burglar hears.
>> No. 11564 ID: 263d6c
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US Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM 16 semi-auto 7.62x51mm carbine, 16-inch barrel.
Great for a refrigerator gun.
>> No. 11566 ID: 73a434
>>11559
>Gunvault makes dependable and well priced gun safes.

And totally friggin' unsafe. Smacking it hard enough gives you access to the contents.
>> No. 11570 ID: c3e6b2
>>11558
>>11559
>>11566
The unlocking cable inside has about a 2 year life (assuming opening the safe twice a day) but their warranty is awesome, after 5 years they already replace the safe twice free of charge. They send you the new one with a return label then just box up the old one and drop it off with UPS.
>> No. 11613 ID: 1f19f4
So I only have a pair of handguns and live in a second floor apartment. What should I do as far as safes and lockboxes go?
All I can really rely on currently is keeping any gun-related stuff out of site and easy reach so any one just grabbing what they can fit into their pockets and bolting (which seems to be the majority of the break-ins in my area, mostly people pill bottles and jewelry) doesn't hopefully notice.
>> No. 11615 ID: 561e7e
>>11564
>Refridgerator Gun

My god, I'd never even thought...what if some asshole attacks me while I'm getting bacon? Shit, I thought taping a kabar to the shower ceiling was enough, but...
>> No. 12732 ID: 0bcc40
My issue with safes is that I don't have 2k to scrape together so that I'm not bumming rides, nvm 8k on a safe.
>> No. 12733 ID: 263d6c
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>>12732
Then... store guns in gun cases that you can lock with a cable or padlock?

- Thompson gun case by Bert Wilson.
>> No. 12755 ID: 509634
>>12732
I just spent 450 dollars on a 12 gun browning safe. Browning safes have a pretty damn good warranty on them as far as fire and theft go.

Just sayin' you don't HAVE to spend that kind of money to get an awesome safe. You just have to shop around.
>> No. 12767 ID: a9d468
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So I am looking into getting a Weapons storage rack I just don't know where or how to go about getting the one I want. I want to be able to store my plate carrier,Kevlar, spare plates, Ammo cans, and misc gear. Does anyone know of how to go about this? Pic semi related
>> No. 12773 ID: 329f54
>>12767
I use old footlockers. One full of ammo cans with all my mags stacked in the tray, and one full or armor and gear. For firearms, I have two Stack On lockers for my long guns, and an electronic key pad pistol safe for handguns and suppressors.
>> No. 12778 ID: 94e9b2
>>12767
I've been looking into used and suprlus lockers myself.

http://www.lightninglockers.com/index.php/shop/used.html?p=1
>> No. 12781 ID: 388296
>>11545

O wise and knowledgeable Bat Guano, how would I store my guns against the depredations of a tyrannical government?
>> No. 12782 ID: 509634
>>12767
Here you go.

http://www.secureittactical.com/hm-weapon-storage/1824_weapon-cabinet.html
>> No. 12783 ID: 00a13e
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>>12781
Keep in waterproof containers, hide or bury?

Here are some waterproof Storage Cache Containers made of aluminum (the affordable ones are PVC plastic tubes with waterproof sealing end caps), made to be injected with an inert gas to prevent rusting of contents.

- Guns shown for size reference (L to R) : Smith & Wesson Model 629, Heckler & Koch USP .45, Smith & Wesson Model 500, FN SLP MK I. http://savethegun.wordpress.com/storage-cache-containers/
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Long term storage cache containers, in various lengths and finishes. Guns shown for size reference (L to R) : Smith & Wesson Model 629, Heckler & Koch USP .45, Smith & Wesson Model 500, FN SLP MK I.
>> No. 12785 ID: 00a13e
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My friends and I stored our guns in a basement, but I wrapped mine in plastic wrap. Later, when we went to get these guns, we noticed some were spotted with rust, but mine were just fine.

Now I store my pistols and more expensive rifles in large waterproof plastic gun cases.

I store my ammo in waterproof ammo cans (war surplus steel cans with good rubber seals or modern plastic ones) and then place these in regular cardboard boxes to keep them away from prying eyes of opportunistic burglars (lift that box and the box will tear, spilling out all those heavy ammo cans).
>> No. 12786 ID: 00a13e
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>> No. 12788 ID: cca4cd
>>12785
Wouldn't it be hilarious if centuries from now people were still digging these up? By then owning a butterknife that's unregistered would probably be a high crime, so this might be more scary to them than unearthing UXE.
>> No. 12789 ID: 00a13e
  >>12788
Woody Allen - Information from the past
http://youtu.be/YkK7wue2xGk
Clip from "Sleeper" (1973)
>> No. 12790 ID: 00a13e
  But, in the future, people will be too preoccupied with The Orb to worry about buried guns.
http://youtu.be/KAKWKfVcd04
>> No. 12791 ID: 00a13e
  And then there's The Orgasmatron.
http://youtu.be/Isrd7E5nzIQ
>> No. 12792 ID: 00a13e
  >>12791
Not to be confused with Motorhead's Orgasmatron.
http://youtu.be/XAhGeIZW7BM
Legendary song, which is an icon of heavy metal music, by Motorhead. Taken from the album Orgasmatron (1986).
>> No. 12793 ID: 00a13e
  Motörhead - Orgasmatron Live http://youtu.be/yIonRQFpKN4
I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called Religion, sadistic, sacred whore.

I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in my pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician and I decide your fate.

I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palace, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the God of war, and I will cut you down.
>> No. 12869 ID: 963c4b
  Someone has to do a #McConnelling video set to Motörhead's 1986 song Orgasmatron:
I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
...I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in my pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician and I decide your fate.

It's Creepy But Try Not To Laugh At These Mitch McConnell Parodies
http://youtu.be/f0yQI_gtSSA
Published on Mar 14, 2014
"We'd like to thank Jon Stewart for bringing #McConnelling to the world.

On Thursday's episode of Comedy Central's "The Daily Show," Stewart put out a call for viewers to take the latest campaign ad from Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) -- which features the Senate Minority Leader smiling at the camera in a series of awkward shots -- and give it a new soundtrack. Stewart used Simon and Garfunkel's "The Sound of Silence" and The Who's "Behind Blue Eyes" as excellent examples of how funny a new twist on the ad could be."* John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur, Ben Mankiewicz (What The Flick?!, TYT Sports) and Brian Unger (Showdown Of The Unbeatables) break it down on The Young Turks.

*Read more here from Paige Lavender / The Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/mcconnelling_n_4965816.html
>> No. 12870 ID: 963c4b
  #McConnelling (Motörhead - The Game)
http://youtu.be/CMWTbUd67t4
>> No. 12871 ID: 963c4b
  #McConnelling - Motorhead - Ace of Spades
http://youtu.be/gNctPEQCrrk
>> No. 14149 ID: 2ae388
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TITAN Gun Safe Pistol Vault
http://www.titangunsafe.com/2/60-TITAN_Gun_Safe_Pistol_Vault.html
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Although many people just keep guns in the car glove box or central console (flip-up compartment between the front seats of a vehicle).
Some states allow this, some only allow this if the car driver or owner has a valid concealed weapons permit, and some states forbid this.

A cheap Kel-Tec mouse gun will fit in such consoles, but keeping guns in such may result in stolen guns if the car is broken into or if the car is stolen.
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Center of mass car safe.
Stuff it under the seat, cable secures it to the inside of the car.
Gun Storage in Vehicle:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=10&t=74152
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Something to attach on your gun safe.
>> No. 14195 ID: 0ea075
I believe that the Titan safe is actually CA legal, surprisingly.

So it's an option for you fellow PRC denizens who live in shit counties.
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The short version:
I bought this gun safe because it solved my issue of having limited mounting options, while retaining the quick access through electronic entry. The other safes I found online of similar size with electronic entry could not be mounted (in the space I had) in a way that didn't block either their door or keypad, or they were simply too big for what I needed. Overall, I am very happy with this gun safe.

Pro's:
- Design and flexibility in mounting options. Why didn't someone think of this sooner?!
- Foolproof programmable electronic entry with a physical key backup
- Nice white internal floodlight
- You can turn the electronic keypad "beep" sound on/off
- When mounted using bigger hardware (that you supply), the safe feels rock solid

Con's:
- The mechanical whining noise as the electronic latch locks/unlocks isn't quiet
- The white internal floodlight might be too bright for some people
- The "L" mounting bracket needs more screw hole options for securing it to wood stud walls
- Should come with longer wood screws for secure mounting
- Low battery warning only works if you touch a keypad button
http://www.mybestgunsafe.com/
>> No. 15909 ID: df12a0
>>14152
>cable secures it to the inside of the car.

Well, that's awfully kind of Cable to do for a fellow OpChanner...
>> No. 16566 ID: 53e33a
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SentrySafe SFW123DSB 1.23 Cubic Feet Combination Fire-Safe, Medium Grey
Pros
Nice looking safe with beautiful design to assist its appraisal.
It is pocket friendly in comparison to other safes in the market.
Provides an avenue for maximum user gun safety.
A good deterrent to forcers of fire and weather.
Longevity of use and storage.
It is easy to use and access.
Cons
The use of the safe has been noted to have the following weaknesses;

Possibility of breakage during shipping, making the user to lose money.
Very heavy to allow ease of moving in case of transit.
Not damp proof and may have frost developing inside and destroying the valuables.
source: http://www.zentiz.com/top-10-best-gun-safes-reviews/
>> No. 16567 ID: e7f332
>>14154

Dan Bilzerian should have had that on his safe.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/dan-bilzerian-los-angeles-cops-took-guns-without-w/?page=all
>> No. 16573 ID: 52ed6e
  >>15907
A seriously massive con of this is the mechanical override lock is a tubular lock which is ridiculously easy to pick if you own a $10 tubular lockpick.

If a safe has a wafer lock or a tubular lock, figure out a way to replace said lock with something actually good or buy something different. Wafer locks especially, you can pick those open with a screwdriver.
>> No. 16576 ID: 254d85
>>14154
>magnet

A engraved plaque of high-hardness stainless that can be welded or riveted on would be a far better option.
>> No. 16590 ID: 3254ec
>>12788
I just hope by then intra-stellar or even interstellar space travel is a thing so men yearning to be free can carve out their own corner of the system/galaxy (and eventually cleanse the eatrth with a kinetic kill vehicle)
>> No. 16591 ID: 3254ec
>>11560
The biggest problem I have with these kind of safes (couchsafe and bedsafe) is they are in the worst position for a crowbar/breaker bar attack, and it's not terribly effective concealment - it's something a hired home cleaner would easily run into.
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