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18114 No. 18114 ID: 11b327
I'm thinking that hoarding camo really lacks a lot of practicality, and would probably rather have a solid "gray man" setup in a SHTF scenario.

I like the idea of using darker tops and lighter bottoms for a general guiding principle of camouflage if needed, but in this case, using muted earth/neutral tones. I live in Seattle, where there's both plenty of concrete as well as green PNW woods, moss, and tall grass in and out of the city. Due to the climate, having something that is water-proof/resistant is pretty important, as well as something I can layer up with and move comfortably in. Something that doesn't scream "tactical", isn't BDU baggy, but serves the functions as such discreetly and effectively as possible.

I'm liking the idea of getting a green Condor Aegis hardshell jacket along with some khaki Condor Cipher pants and just throw on some boots. What do you all think?
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>> No. 18116 ID: 13f512
To be honest, the idea of buying tacticool things to be "gray man" is a fundamental misstep.

To blend in, you need to be wearing what everyone else is wearing.
>> No. 18118 ID: a8dbe2
>>18116
This.

Just get workwear, man. Dickies, Carthartt, whatever. It's rugged, comfy, and common.

The idea of tactical apparel meant to look like casual apparel boggles my mind. I mean, it'd make since if it was an affordable price because it's not much more material than that $10 button up and definitely didn't cost that much in man hours to sew that extra inner pocket.

I say just buy cheap rugged shit and modify it yourself. After I get a sewing machine here eventually, I'll show you guys what I intend to do to turn a Chicom rig into a damn good shotgun rig.

I'm starting to think I can make a killing making tacticool gear. And hippie sandals, because why not diversify?
>> No. 18119 ID: a8dbe2
>>18118
>make sense*

Lack of sleep.
>> No. 18120 ID: f15d4d
It depends. You say you live in Seattle... in which case your best "gray man" camouflage would probably be hipster-approved clothing you could pick up at a second-hand clothing shop for a few bucks. Alternatively, "Tactical Homeless Hipster" like your picture might actually be appropriate because Seattle (only half-way joking here).

If you really want something that lets you move around, buy some blue-collar construction/foreman-esque clothes, get a hardhat and a reflective vest. Anyone bothers you, just use that image of someone of a position in authority as social engineering and say you have to be somewhere and keep moving. Add a radio and clipboard to the mix and if you aren't drawing attention to yourself, most people aren't going to stop you (outside of police and authorities, but if you're going AWAY from where to they're GOING, that's less of a problem - again, so long as you aren't Fergusion-ing out and carrying a brand new boxed flat screen or something, it shouldn't be a problem 9 times out of 10).
>> No. 18292 ID: 3c3082
>>18118
> The idea of tactical apparel meant to look like casual apparel boggles my mind. I mean, it'd make since if it was an affordable price because it's not much more material than that $10 button up and definitely didn't cost that much in man hours to sew that extra inner pocket.

Sure go for it. For those of us with money paying the premium for Triple Aught Design, Kitanica, Acertex, to do the actual work for us is worth it.
>> No. 18302 ID: 6348f6
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18302
>>18114
>step 1- find pictures of the area you are going
>step 2- look at average color and cut combinations for clothing
>step 3- using the above information determine what materials offer the best durability, and can accomodate concealed gear/weapons

also
>I'm liking the idea of getting a green Condor Aegis hardshell jacket along with some khaki Condor Cipher pants and just throw on some boots. What do you all think?

if you are going for a black techwear type outfit this would make sense. as described, sounds like your typical LE or federal agent (if you look for the guy wearing the softshell/hardshell jackets and 5.11 cargo pants and observe how they stand out) you DONT want to look like the 5.11 "covert tactical" dress

take grey man inspiration from german counter terror/SWAT teams, completely average looking, until they put on a plate carrier and helmet
>> No. 18305 ID: 98a205
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18305
here is an example, plan around the clothing
>> No. 18306 ID: 98a205
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18306
>>18305
here is another
>> No. 18310 ID: af119d
>I'm liking the idea of getting a green Condor Aegis hardshell jacket along with some khaki Condor Cipher pants and just throw on some boots. What do you all think?

Literally the complete fucking opposite of "gray man"
>> No. 18316 ID: 61e76a
The world wears jeans dude. If you want something mega operator maybe go with a pair of kevlar ones, neigh on indestructible.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/product-reviews/product-picks/top-five-kevlar-jeans/

Base layer tee with something like a tattershall/check shirt over the top. Lined or otherwise. If unlined you could use a wool jumper, (think nato wooly pully).

Then I'd go with a jacket of choice, funilly enough I'd be tempted by something like a quality wax jacket.

https://www.barbour.com/uk/catalog/product/view/id/10468/s/barbour-ogston-wax-jacket/category/77/

Why? they tend to have fastenable volumous pockets, and are pretty waterprooff and rugged. They also come in dark colours. And fairly common, you're not going to stand out in the same way you would do if you were wearing some high speed low drag coat.

Boots on the bottom.
>> No. 18328 ID: c70a24
>>18305
This is ideal af.
>> No. 18331 ID: f5c3ed
Flannel plaid shirt, 5% spandex blue jeans and growing a beard works (I used to hate them, now I'm 50/50). Along with a basic analog watch, thumb ring and footwear of your choice; you can blend in almost anywhere. I've been this outside of work since I got by CCW. I look like a basic hipster, but have 6 to 30 rounds of .45 under my belt and no one is any the wiser.
>> No. 18332 ID: f5c3ed
>>18331
Also to add, the Flatpack Tourniquet Carrier from Philster wth a RATS tourniquet and a ESEE Izula with a horizontal belt clip for when I'm in tougher areas.
>> No. 18361 ID: 0d01d8
>>18310
Not trying to be an asshole, not trying to be argumentative here, but please hear me out.

I think you may be overthinking this. 95% of the normies don't notice this shit, nor do they know one camo pattern from another if they should happen to notice that someone was wearing a surplus-store M65 field jacket and skinny hipster jeans. Really they don't. And, depending on what part of the country you live in and the time of year, a Mossy Oak camo hoodie and jeans can be more commonplace in line at the supermarket than suits and ties or "business casual." So long as you're not fully Multicam'd out and wearing battle rattle and war paint with an M4 slung over your shoulder, you're highly unlikely to get a second look. Gadsden Flag t-shirts might draw an equal amount of unwelcome attention in some areas. Khakis and a hoodie, or sweater or coat appropriate to the weather, are pretty solid for what OP seems to have in mind. I do not think anybody's going to say "oh shit, he's wearing khakis and a faded brown sweatshirt, he must be some kind of TURRORIST going for an urban-camo effect! Let me dial 91 and then hover my finger over the '1' and wait for him to do something!" Hell, Wal-Mart sells camo hoodies just because some people just like them and wear them for shits and giggles.

Others have already noted that the 21st Century Tarnhelm is fluorescent vest + hard hat + clipboard + acting skills in the unlikely event you are approached.
>> No. 18362 ID: 3b8f78
>>18316
While grey man is obviously useful, is there any real merit to carrying around 30 pounds of guns and gear at all times? Having previously carried around spare mags, ifaks, and at some points a pistol AR in a pack, I felt like it was more equipment than I actually needed for my average grocery run.
>> No. 18365 ID: 5ca4f0
>Seattle
>Not dressing like a soyboy or REI fanboy

My go to is some outdoorsy type pants, flannel shirt, some sort of windbreaker/pullover, and lesbian sandle style Keens with merino wool socks.
>> No. 18393 ID: 369c8a
>>18361
>I think you may be overthinking this. 95% of the normies don't notice this shit, nor do they know one camo pattern from another

the problem with this is that they whole gray man concept is supposed to avoid drawing attention from 100% of people.

So you aren't incredibly impeded when traveling by means of security checkpoints.

Like yeah, I don't think printing is a big deal if there's only teens and soccermoms around sure.
But what says soccermom doesn't flip out and call someone who does have an ability to harass you under guise of law?

What says that remaining 5% isn't a criminal who has knowledge of what to avoid or what to look for?

Anyone who is truly doing the "I'm not tactical" shit should be able to talk to drug dealers as well as cops in the same day without having either of those sides consider you armed.

>>18362
Depends on what you have in there, I generally keep my carbine and a backpack with me, I have to get into the backpack for tie downs, tools, cleaning supplies, batteries, spare jacket for wife or something.

Idk man.


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