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74530 No. 74530 ID: d2caef Stickied hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Post your guns (and yours alone!).

Rules: No post without picture.
Bonus credit: Quality photography is highly appreciated.

Here's my newly acquired Smith & Wesson Model 29 (no dash).
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>> No. 104849 ID: 79f63e
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So I did a thing. Haven't decided what red dot yet, was leaning Deltapoint Pro but then I heard how bad the battery life is on them.
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I finished my Polymer80 Glock with smooth grip, my plan is to have laser stippling with PBE shield as design

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104851 No. 104851 ID: bf333d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So Mateba does a limited run of M2006 revolvers. Only 30 made for 2017.

And stamps 3.57Mag on them. Idiots.
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Doesn't even look nicely finished either.

They're asking over 2000 euros a piece.
>> No. 104855 ID: bd9907
>3.57 MAG.
They're just that much more collectible now.
>> No. 104856 ID: d62a2b
That's a naked money-grab from whoever owns the name and rights to Mateba. Quality's bound to be garbage beyond harmless shit like 3.57.
>> No. 104857 ID: 19518e
This will be the new no compromises backwards cartridges thing.

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98379 No. 98379 ID: ef84d9 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Hello /k/, it's been a while.

Help me decide/find an edc knife. I need something unique. I need a larger blade, but still something slim to carry. I don't mind if it's a friction folder, assisted opening or liner lock.

My beloved Spyderco Endura has been lost and I've finally decided to start searching for her replacement.

I have always wanted a Spyderco Roc or a Benchmade Osborne. I'm looking to spend no more than $200.

I've missed you guys. I hope you're all well.
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>> No. 104135 ID: bd9907
Managed to get sand in the same pocket as one of these, and now it doesn't like to open far enough to lock with the spring assist. Herp derp.
>> No. 104831 ID: f15d4d
Does it lock fine if you push it into place? If so, there's probably sand in the cut out for the Needs Work's SpeedSafe spring binding it and preventing full movement.

Dunno about the internal structure/design of a Needs Work because I've never owned one, but taking it apart and cleaning it shouldn't be an issue. Most A/O SpeedSafe Kershaws either have a cut out with the SpeedSafe spring captured inside of it while a plate going over it, but some just have it resting in the G10/handle material (my Speed Bump was like this).

If you do take it apart, use decent Torx bits (Wiha is best) of the "correct" size. Most Kershawks are going to have T-8 or T-10 screws for the pivot and T-6 or T-8 for the body. Most pocket clips are also T-6 size.

Also, when you take it apart, clean it, lube it, ect. - take some grease-like lubricant (something with the consistency of Vaseline would be best) and smear the ever loving shit out of the SpeedSafe cavity mechanism before you re-assemble. Kershaw/ZT does that from the factory and it helps prevent moisture/crude from interfering with the spring and also had the added benefit of not letting the spring rattle obnoxiously.

If you absolutely don't want to take the knife apart, take the knife and throw it into some Dawn dish soap or some penetrative oil for a few hours and then take it to a water bath and blow the ever-loving-fuck out of it with a high pressure air compressor under water. Then immediately dry thoroughly and oil.
>> No. 104834 ID: bd9907
Just opening and closing it over and over again, it seemed to get better, and then it got a bunch worse. I probably do need to take it apart. Thanks for the info.
>> No. 104846 ID: a8dbe2
They just discontinued the HK branded Benchmade knives, so you can snag them up pretty cheap while they last.

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104088 No. 104088 ID: f2172d hide watch quickreply [Reply]
So, I'm thinking about updating to a new 9mm suppressor that I can use on both handguns and my SMGs. I currently have my old YHM 9mm cans the Wraith XL and Cobra M2, but they sealed, as well as heavy and beat up (i.e. finish wear and at least one baffle strike). The Wraith can only be used on SMGs and the Cobra is handgun only.

The Sig SRD9 has caught my attention, but I am open to alternatives. My requirements:
1) 9mm, duh.
2) full auto capable
3) can be used on both handguns and SMG/carbines
4) quick detach not necessary
5) titanium or lighter tube
6) will be run dry
7) no baffle material or configuration preference at this time. Looking for 'reasonable' decibel reduction level, but doesn't have to be quietest.
8) $500-1200 price range.

Any recommendations?
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Seems like there's fairly big differences when it comes to gas blow back on some of these cans. If you look at the MPX vids, some cans kick back far more gas than others.

Is that a consideration you want to take into account, or isn't it a factor for your guns?
>> No. 104093 ID: f2172d
Not a major concern. I am used to gas blowback on practically every can I have used.
>> No. 104837 ID: f2172d
Went in to buy the SRD9, ended up buying a 9mm MPX SBR instead. Of course, the SRD9 will follow, eventually.
>> No. 104838 ID: 181cef
Gotta hate it when the ole intention to do does the switcharoo on you. Pics when the MPX comes in!
>> No. 104839 ID: c3b8cf
It'll be awhile, but it is a regular mpx with the pdw stock.

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104102 No. 104102 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
>Ruger recently discovered that all Mark IV™ pistols (including 22/45™ models) manufactured prior to June 1, 2017 have the potential to discharge unintentionally if the safety is not utilized correctly. In particular, if the trigger is pulled while the safety lever is midway between the "safe" and "fire" positions (that is, the safety is not fully engaged or fully disengaged), then the pistol may not fire when the trigger is pulled. However, if the trigger is released and the safety lever is then moved from the mid position to the "fire" position, the pistol may fire at that time.
>All Mark IV™ pistols produced prior to June 1, 2017 are potentially affected and therefore are being recalled. This includes Mark IV™ Target, Hunter, Competition, 22/45™, 22/45™ Lite and 22/45™ Tactical models. These models bear serial numbers beginning with "401" (2017 models) or "WBR" (2016 models).
>If you have a Mark IV™ or 22/45™ pistol with a serial number beginning with the number "5," your pistol is not subject to the recall.
>Mark IV™ and 22/45™ pistols retrofitted with the updated safety mechanism are easily identified by the letter "S" in the white safety dot that is visible when the safety is engaged.
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>> No. 104119 ID: f08dcf
So, what you're telling me is that if the gun isn't on "safe", it can fire. Huh, whodathought?
>> No. 104128 ID: 54180e
"if the trigger is pulled while the safety lever is midway between the "safe" and "fire" positions (that is, the safety is not fully engaged or fully disengaged), then the pistol may not fire when the trigger is pulled. However, if the trigger is released and the safety lever is then moved from the mid position to the "fire" position, the pistol may fire at that time. " - who discovered this? was some guy just sliding the safety back and forth incrementally and pulling the trigger?

Hardly seems recall worthy to me...
>> No. 104129 ID: 813f6b
>So, what you're telling me is that if the gun isn't on "safe", it can fire. Huh, whodathought?

The biggest issue is that the safety can cause the gun to go off when not touching the trigger:
1) put safety somewhere halfway between safe & fire
2) pull trigger (nothing happens)
3) switch safety to fire at some time later (gun goes off)

This is not unlike the SPAS12 safety issues of way back when.

It most certainly is a dangerous thing that should be fixed.
>> No. 104137 ID: bb90ae
Meh, if I wanted a gun that the preferred mode of firing was manipulating the safety, I'd have gotten a Remington.
>> No. 104829 ID: 78e056
Ruger with a recall? Who would have thought...

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98094 No. 98094 ID: a4a9ab hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Another general weapons thread.
Previous one: http://www.operatorchan.org/k/res/90125.html
STI Target Master
The Target Master is built on STI’s 1911 Government-length frame with 30 lpi checkering on the front strap. The safety controls are STI ambidextrous thumb safeties and STI high rise, knuckle-relief beavertail grip safety. The 6″ slide features a lowered and flared ejection port, tri-level adjustable sights, and STI front and rear cocking serrations. The barrel is a 6.0″, fully-supported and ramped bull barrel. The Target Master comes standard with a STI two-piece steel guide rod, Commander-style hammer and patented STI Int’l trigger system. The STI Target Master ships with one 1911 Magazine. http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/glock/
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The Heckler & Koch XM29 OICW, the ULTIMATE Individual Weapon?
In May of this year, I got the rare opportunity to travel to Heckler & Koch’s headquarters in Ashburn, VA, to take a look at some of the experimental and prototype firearms they have located there in their famous “Grey Room”. It wouldn’t be worth as much for me to just tell you about it and to snap a few foggy cell phone pictures, though, so I brought along Othais of C&Rsenal to help me take high resolution light box photos of these unique and rare firearms. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/09/26/firearm-showcase-heckler-koch-xm29-oicw-ultimate-individual-weapon-high-res-pics/
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The “weapon” we will be taking a look at today is not actually a weapon at all, but a wooden mockup of the XM29 Objective Individual Combat Weapon, which was a highly ambitious program to develop a transformative infantry weapon for the 21st Century. It combines a “Kinetic” unit (basically a short barreled G36) attached to the airburst grenade launcher and the large sighting system. The only real part of this mockup is actually the magazine, a standard grey USGI aluminum unit. The XM29 was eventually broken into two programs, which became the aborted XM8 carbine and the still in development XM25 Counter-Defilade Target Engagement weapon.
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104133 No. 104133 ID: c29d3c hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Hey folks, a while ago I found a tonne of excellent high quality posts on machine guns on here, including the Japanese Type 11, 96, 99, Italian Breda M30, Breda 5c, American M1919s

I saved a couple of them, but they are a bit lower res, I was wondering if anyone had all of them, in their full
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US M2 .50 BMG at Camp Leatherneck, Helmand province, Afghanistan, 2013.
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>> No. 104858 ID: 7e50f2
Richard L. Wray Collection

All the high resolution images
659 images, 1 GB, split into 7 archives – ordered alphabetically by name.

Some of it is already in Bat Guano's excellent dump.

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  Does this shit work?
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>> No. 104132 ID: 813f6b

Yes, but it tries to take care of bullet drop, windage & leading the target for you.
You don't need to do mental math, adjust the scope and/or use kentucky windage to make your shot.
>> No. 104138 ID: 90e103
I think the rotor wash would only have a minor effect since the bullet is at its maximum velocity when it leaves the barrel, and would only be affected for a short period of time.

I wonder if the tracking point factors in the shooters movement speed.

Also I don't​ think it could be trusted to shoot a hostage taker. Maybe it will execute the perfect shot... Right through the hostage's neck...
>> No. 104142 ID: 334c17
As far as I'm aware of, every modern military have this sort of system available, only normally they are pretty much top secret. If these are just officially released models and numbers, I wonder what top-notch systems actually are, and how long they are in the field.

>weather station
>fully functional ballistic calculator
>wireless connection
>automatic trigger release

Hell, this is probably a tad bit too beefy for actual thing. Maybe just a promo of sorts.
>> No. 104143 ID: bf333d
>I think the rotor wash would only have a minor effect since the bullet is at its maximum velocity when it leaves the barrel, and would only be affected for a short period of time.

5.56x45 is fairly seriously affected by rotor wash, but I couldn't say for 7.62x51 or above.

The thing is that the ballistic computer would need to know it's in a helicopter to factor it in in at least a meaningful way and even then, the wash is variable.
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Makes one wonder about the three simultaneous shots from a pitching deck that saved Captain Phillips. It would be the perfect application of a computer-triggered action.

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  Not sure if this is genius or stupid, but it's neat.

Also fun to brand people with it, I guess. Good luck getting this into a bag right after shooting it.

One of my biggest gripes with AR15s has always been the lack of folding stocks. But this is obviously going a step further.
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>> No. 104112 ID: 3e843b
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I would think even a Obrez would be more effective at close ranges then a pistol caliber weapon. From what I know most common pistol rounds aren't all that amazing, relatively slow and don't dump alot of power into a target compared to a pistol round.

However pistol rounds are usually alot lighter, don't need to travel super far to get maximum kill velocity, and don't over-penetrate like most rifle rounds do. Hence why PDWs have some love, they have the best of both worlds.

On the Carter Special there seems to be some confusion on why it was made. Its generally agreed that the reason was the wars in A-stan and Iraqistan and OPERATORS introducing their new hadji friends to the greatest thing Belgium has made since Audrey Hepburn.

The disagreements seems to be whether it was because it was so hard to procure blanks, with most 5.7 ammo production presumably going to fulfilling military contracts or because they were having a tough time acquiring P90 "props" as in the firearms. Either way it has the same result, the Carter Special was made to be used either to fire the super common 5.56 round or to be used in firing scenes because they didn't have enough live fire P90s.
>> No. 104113 ID: 44de19
It was probably just a bunch of stuff the armorer for the show already had on hand, I doubt they went out and bought a bunch of new shit to glom together.

Also, while I didn't care for the Ori storyline (what's that Lassie? ANOTHER race pretending to be gods? Better kill all of them too!) and as much as I didn't like the season 9/10 team quite as much as the OG SG1, I was pleased to see things like the MP7 showing up. More than anything, it aided the feeling that they were a present day special operations team making use of the equipment available in the present day.

Plus Teal'c dual wielding MP7s made me smile. Realism be damned.
>> No. 104121 ID: 188832
yeah over penetration worries are why the colt D.O.E. smg conversion came to be , mission drives equipment and all that.

If I were to state pistol rounds in SMG's and SBR's were less than desirable that would color me a hypocrite as an owner of a Brugger & Thomet TP9 ( and wanting quite a few pistol caliber SBR's ) each tool has it's use.
I want to eventually get a PS90 or an AR 57 11" barreled upper whichever comes first , but I have to get my life back on track.

>>104113 And yes dual wielding MP7's while unrealistic / overkill is kinda bad ass in it's own pulpy way, can't say much for the quality of stories in the later seasons as they were "average" but the cinematography and action scenes were good.
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Teal'c dual wielding P90s is superior to Teal'c dual wielding MP7s.

Though I did like them using the MP7s. They seemed to mainly use them in missions they were trying to pass as non Tau'ri humans. Which makes sense as the MP7 looks more like a classical weapon compared to the more distinctive P90. The shows portrays other humans like the Lucien Alliance and various planets as having projectile weapons similar if not identical to Earth weapons.

A real problem with using off the shelf props and weapons is sometimes people not from Earth were carrying around things like barely modified MAC-10s and Steyr SPPs (from the episode where SG-1 is carrying around MP7s to not look like Earthers) and not even modified Lugers, Garands, Kar 98Ks, and various AK variants. I mean they atleast try sometimes to portray weapons as alien such as the "Timecop Beretta", the "Timecop Desert Eagle" and the "Bone Jack" Winchester 1887.

One thing I did appreciate though is it seemed like the only person really dual wielding was people not trained by Earth like Teal'c and Bra'tac. The only time I can recall an Earth military person dual wielding was Mitchell using dual MP7s during a dream sequence when he's fighting zombies. Mitchell has a history of dual wielding anyway, mostly pistols named Winona though.

>mission drives equipment

Definitely. Why pistol caliber SMGs and PDWs exist, an assault rifle isn't going to be the right tool for every occasion no matter how powerful it is. Its like the old debates about the usage of PDWs and how people tried to paint them as useless because ballistic gel tests showed they were less powerful compared to assault rifles. When people are using a SMG or PDW they might now want or need the body caviting of a larger assault rifle round.

Its a bit like universal camo pattern in thought. Try to make something a jack of all trades means you have a camo pattern that tends to performs worse then dedicated camo patterns, its universally bad. Now of course an AR ain't anywhere close to universally bad unless you are some idiot who still thinks its the 1960s and there haven't been any changes to the first gen Mattel-16s. But trying to use them as a universal platform, atleast from an ammo standpoint, seems like a bad idea. I suppose you can use it as a universal platform with mixed results, an AR can fire 9mm like a MP5, 5.7 like a P90, .45 like a UMP, and even 7.62x39 like an AK.
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>> No. 104136 ID: bb90ae
>The only time I can recall an Earth military person dual wielding was Mitchell using dual MP7s during a dream sequence when he's fighting zombies

Not so much a dream sequence as Mitchell's idea of a good TV show. From the episode "200" (the 200th episode of the show. As a result they had a lot of fun with it.) Basically it was SG1 brainstorming with Martin Lloyd (alien living on earth) about creating a TV show to help with creating plausible deniability and all that to help keep the Stargate program covered.

I'd have watched the hell out of Teal'C P.I.

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104045 No. 104045 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Because I needed to request a permit for a shotgun I'm planning to buy, I also added a permit for a SAFN onto the list.

As it turns out, perfect timing. Two collector's already notified they were selling theirs AND a local surplus dealer just brought a batch of refinished belgian army SAFNs onto the market. The wood is likely not correct and the parts are fully refinished, but personally, I don't mind too much if the price is right.

Here's some pics of the various rifles I've been offered so far.
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>> No. 104076 ID: ea0b87
Had an 8mm Egyptian model in the past. Nice little gun but eventually traded away after tracking down reasonably priced 8mm got tedious.
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So I cracked & bought the pictured one on the spot.

It was just too fucking perfect to pass up (virtually no finish wear, almost no internal wear, barrel was a mirror). Not even re-arsenaled. Just factory fucking new. Whatever blemish shows up in the pictures is barely visible irl.

And the price was fair, so no use in arguing.


I visited this strong room. Dozens of FALs, FNCs, CALs, FN BAR Ds, FN MAG, Minimi, SAFNs, MG34, MG42, FN made UZIs, MP5s, Thompsons, Garands, cases upon cases of high powers, etc. Absolutely breath taking. All in working condition (except display & teaching models) and full auto where relevant.

I almost spilled all my spaghetti when I entered the room.
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I own a Lux, I have to say, I am not a fan. Before I bought one, I'd see pics of them online and think they were goddamn sexy, and I love tilting bolts.

There's nothing really wrong with the FN49, except the stock, which I'll get to.

There's a few SMALL inconveniences out of it, like the non-detachable magazine. I don't mind the non-detachable magazine on the SKS, but for some reason, it bothers me more on the FN49, maybe because you can't drop it and have to cycle rounds to clear it. I mean, even the shitty detachment on AG42s at least lets you remove the mag for cleaning without unscrewing out the trigger group. That said, the manual bolt hold open is 10/10, I love the idea of topping off a top-charging semi rifle, and the FN49, G43, VZ58, and M1A are cool as shit that you can do that. It just feels like there was this tiny, few year period where that made sense, the first generation, or generation and a half of combat feasible semi-auto battle rifles. The charging handle also feels just a little too small for the strength of the spring, I would have appreciated a little more leverage, especially if my hands were wet or something, enough to put two fingers on. MAS44s also suffer from this, btw.

The FN49 is also oddly heavy. It just seems like a couple pounds heavier than other rifles in its class, the 8-10 round semi-auto battle rifles, so its less fun to carry. I think the weight comes from the stock. For some weird bullshit reason, they made the stock RIDICULOUSLY THICK. This just makes the rifle feel bulky as hell, which okay, if I wanted pointy, I'd get an M1 carbine. Especially around the wrist of the stock, you can see in the side profile pictures, but its not that noticeable, its a bit wider than most other stocks, the C grip is absurdly thick, and way closer to the trigger than the other rifles, but what you don't see in side pictures, which was my entire experience before gunbrokering one, is just how THICK the stock is. Like look at this, >>104052 , you can see how much the stock extends past the handguard. I don't know, I have smaller hands, maybe, but just the stock made me not really like the FN49 very much. I guess Belgians have comically oversized hands.

I have to admit, I haven't shot it. Partly because the lack of enjoyment of the rifle itself, but mostly because I keep getting other guns. So I can't comment on how good of a shooter it is, it might be great.

Would I buy it again? Yes, but only to complete the collection. I have every other 8-10 shot battle rifle, and the FN49 holds a unique place in history, but personally, I can see why the belgian navy adopted the 1950 mauser, which is a beautiful gun.
>> No. 104126 ID: 813f6b
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>There's a few SMALL inconveniences out of it, like the non-detachable magazine.

Which is quite standard for a gun designed prior to WW2. While plenty of examples of detachable mags exist, they were usually shot down by the armies fielding them. Most obvious example being the SMLEs which are perfectly capable for being fed from detachable mags, but the rifles were modified to lock the mags in for fear of "loss" and increasing complexity of the logistics.

While the production only started after WW2 and the design could have been updated with ideas from the SVT40 etc, I'd argue that if the SAFN didn't have a fixed mag, it's highly likely it would be regarded with less nostalgia than it is now. It's the last "elegant old-war rifle".

>The FN49 is also oddly heavy. It just seems like a couple pounds heavier than other rifles in its class, the 8-10 round semi-auto battle rifles, so its less fun to carry.

It's the same weight as a Garand or a Johnson, and significantly lighter than a Ljungman, FG42 or G41? The only rifle I can think of in its class which is really lighter is the SVT?

>For some weird bullshit reason, they made the stock RIDICULOUSLY THICK.

It's ironic that you should mention it, because aside of the complaint with regards to detachable mags, the stock being too flimsy was the official complaint that came out of the Korean war.

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>> No. 104127 ID: d0041a
IMO FN-49 was markedly handier and lighter than the Hakim, both shot well but the FN-49 is downright pleasant - I didn't have the same ergonomic issues - the stock is thick but I'm also a bigger guy

Again IMO no other 10 shot semi held a candle to the MAS 49/56 - that rifle handles like a carbine and it feels 4lbs lighter than it actually is, I'm still bewildered why the french didn't give it a 20 rounder when it was better than the M14 and BM-59 (and at least nearly on par with the FAL and G3)

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