Did everyone enjoy their Independence Day?

heep heep boof is a nerd!

>>109883
https://www.80percentarms.com/blog/65-Creedmoor-vs-308

https://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/04/25/how-much-does-cartridge-matter/

I bought a Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 because I thought it would be more interesting at shorter ranges. Turns out it's just more shitty at all ranges. My buddy picked up the 6.5, and it's so much better. The biggest benefit to me was lower recoil. The RPR is bolt-automatic, so there's nothing to dampen recoil except the rubber butt pad on your shoulder. The .308 is a proper kick the the shoulder. 6.5CM lets you know there's recoil, but it's really not that bad.

6.5CM ammo has come down in price quite a bit, the bullet selection is good, and it fits in .308 length receivers. My next project (if I ever get back into gun projects) was to build an AR-10 in 6.5CM.

Shaking it up and speaking from a fudd hunter/cheapass perspective, .308 win is still my personal preferred short action caliber for two major reasons beyond my built up infrastructure for the caliber that I don't even own anymore. I can load a little bit heavier projectile for that slight edge on penetration and loaded ammo and quality components are more numerous, particularly now with most people understandably flocking to 6.5 creedmoor.

I can weight sort lake city brass, and often source pulled or surplus quality .30 caliber projectiles ie nosler partition cosmetic seconds, federal fusion etc. .264 is definitely scarcer. If I want to get really fancy, Lapua brass is much easier to come by for it from secondhand sources whether once fired or unused sitting in the garage.

I can walk into Powder River Taxidermy in Broadus, MT aka nowhere and buy an overpriced box of shit ass 150 grain .308 win core lokts in a pinch, probably not so much for the 6.5 yet.
I never thought that was a real problem until I was stationed in New York and had to find even .280 Remington for my hipster .280 Ackley Improved since all my ammo got left at home.

From a logical/ballistics standpoint I absolutely agree that 6.5 creedmoor is a more efficient, better overall cartridge though.

>>109886
Absolutely! 6.5CM is superior ballistically overall, but .308 Win has better logistics.

>>109867
Is discord social media? I thought it was basically IRC but with a new name so the kids will think it's new and cool.

>>109869
weak attempt at rationalization

>>109331
So I got to fuck with one at the LGS.

Then a few dudes were posting about how it's only getting like 3MOA and found out FN isn't guaranteeing anything accurate from it on their website and holy shit you dodged a bullet.

>>109880
Accuracy problems with which, .308 or 6.5?

That's really surprising, the SCAR 16 and 17 are both MOA guns.

>>109880
Looking around a little bit online, I don't see anything other than 1-MOA for the SCAR 20. This wasn't some gun store fudd lore, was it?

Also, I haven't shot since last September. Fucking terrible, I know.

>>109802
>Are you a doctor?
I am not. But you're clearly a proctologist for being such a pain in the ass.

>>109812
>let's completely ignore the effects of government policy on the blacks, and insist that the reason for their high crime rate is purely due to genetics
When you do that, anyone with an IQ above room temperature tunes out anything else you have to say, so please don't blurt out crap like that in relation to gun rights. We are already fighting an uphill battle, don't make it harder.

>>109859
Why does Baltimore look like Angola?

It's because blacks live there, it's not do to any fake racism. That is such a cope.

>>109859
Keep being in denial, you'll turn against gun owners the moment you get to virtue signal. You know that pretty much the only responsible gun owners that still respect the Constitution are white, and you hate us for this fact. Oh, there are only 2 genders as well.

>>109878
You're not my real father! You can't tell me what to do!

>>109839
Not really, no. Supply still hasn't caught up with the demand of two panics back to back.

My LGS is using Geiselle BCGs in their AR builds, simply because they can't find anything else that's less expensive right now.

>>109839
>cheaper than PSA
Why would you want to do that? I understand building a budget AR and all, but don't go bottom of the bargain barrel. You'll spend more time trying to fix QC issues than shooting reliably. At least go PSA CHF barrel with a carpenter steel MPI bolt.

PSA is tough to beat on price and in my experience they're definitely good enough.

When I bought the PBE AR Mk1 lower years ago, I went with a PSA lower parts kit. I very specifically recall the kit missing (or me losing, to be honest. It was my first AR and I was building it in my living room) one of the very small springs, either a trigger spring or the bolt release spring. I emailed them about it saying it was missing from the kit and they immediately emailed me a replacement, no questions asked. They paid 48 cents or whatever for a stamp to send me a part worth a penny without question. I felt pretty good about it and them and they've had my business ever since.

Delta Team Tactical out of Utah usually has atleast one kit in the $300 range, but for the prices PSA has now, Delta Team has kits that are fairly impressive.

I've built at least 20 guns between DTT and PSA.

I got a concealed carry license in Arkansas and let me tell you that you are worrying over nothing. Go to that Saturday firearms instruction course. It will mostly be helpful instructing you over the laws of where you can pack your heat and the general law of self-defense and when you can use deadly force. The actual target shooting (for me in Arkansas and Colorado) was pretty much a formality. Just hit the target a few times. Qualify with an automatic pistol because some states will restrict your carry to revolvers only if you bring a revolver.

>>109863
I don't like classrooms and formal instruction and am doing my best to avoid having to attend those right now especially in the wake of the pandemic, but thanks anyway.

The RPD is belt fed and feeds from the left side. The sights are of a standard AK pattern but with added windage controls. The ammunition belt is typically held in a steel drum attached to a bracket underneath the receiver. There is also a cleaning rod which runs across the left side of the receiver.

The belt for the RPD is in 2 50 round sections which attach in the middle. The 2 sections are non-disintegrating however and hangs off of the receiver. The belts are rolled up and place into the drum, the rattle from the loose rounds is very noticeable.

JRW M-60 Semi Auto Belt Fed:
Made by WGB in Canton Ohio, this rifle is like new with very low round count. The gun looks minty and is one of the best made M-60's you can own. This has one of the best triggers available in an M-60. This is a chance to own a truly well made gun set up to work and play with the best components available in a gun like this. https://www.gunsamerica.com/990581942/JRW-M-60-Semi-Auto-Belt-Fed-Semi-Auto.htm

Rumors of a semi-auto HK21 circle around...
Last time I priced just the parts for this you're looking at 20k and that's for semi auto.
Just the feed mechanism is a dick kicking $5k. https://hkparts.net/product/hk21e-feed-mechanism-complete-p584.htm
The 21 is so fucking neat but it was an answer to a question no one asked. The 21 didn't do anything someone else wasn't doing better or more local.
Shits and giggles I looked up Rock island auction and they sold a transferable one for 32k.
You're in luck otb has one in stock for 35k but it's the long boi so it will be another 3k to cut down that barrel. https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/ffg1nk/i_see_people_posting_for_308_day_but_i_think_it/fjyg3mx/

- German HK21K with a Fleming sear in .308

>>109760
Nice work!

So I actually ended up getting second place in the Tac Optics division of a local area monthly comp.

Discovered the following

-115gr doesn't really work on plates well
-115gr has a greater rise than 147gr
-people overlook height over bore a lot
-people will put their body pressure on a bare ass barrel and wonder why they aren't making hits
-pistol lamps don't throw very well even on AR pistols
-brakes and comps are generally shit at dissipating gases at night
-people scoff at pressure pads are generally the same people who use constant on while shooting
-those same people also have lamps that turn off and on via recoil, so they have to shoot twice to get back on target
-getting whiteout over your optic doesn't mean keep shooting
-usually a handgun falling out will only DQ a single person per match, because everyone else will go back to their cars for some reason and produce screwdrivers for some reason
-there aren't ever enough people to help with set up or tear down

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>>109761
Got it brand new in 2016, it's a 583-series. Haven't tested it properly in a bench.

>>109776
We had not one, not two, BUT THREE people insisting on taking their IPSC safety course with 1911s in .45 this weekend. Had to do the course with less reps total of each exercise, because Team Boomer had to load their mags so often. It's still fun as hell seeing the one guy who shoots .45 good, and watching those big ass buckets almost give the RO a concussion when the brass hits him.

I don't think it counts but I've been considering getting into NRA Smallbore Pistol. The black part of the target with the scoring rings is 3 1/16" across and you shoot standing unsupported, one handed, duellist point stance, from 50 feet, against a timer.

I think I need to up my skills a bit further before trying that, though I can hold the X-ring in a B27 (2" wide by 3" tall) 80%+ of the time at 30 feet. I'd feel better about it if I were more consistent, but I keep getting in a hurry, jerking the trigger, etc. and yanking about one in five out as far as the 9-ring.

...this is with a Ruger Mk III 22/45 with irons that's stock except for Hogue rubber grips. I've got a stainless Hunter Model with all VQ innards but I don't shoot it nearly as much because I don't want to get spoiled by a two-pound trigger with almost all the reset and takeup dialed out of it. I start off slow and then move up to about one round a second after I warm up, then the last few mags I expend practicing fast head shots, in the hopes that the important parts will transfer over to centerfire handguns. I haven't been to the range in months, though, between the Wu Flu lockdowns and some more recent health problems that have appeared.

>>109806

Just had a cute girl demo this system for me this past weekend.
Tried the system out both for dry fire and holster draw, and it seemed pretty useful.

https://mantisx.com/

.577 revolvers:
http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/news/articles/British_Big_Bores.pdf
http://www.classicarmsjournal.com/577-revolvers/2/

Anyone have experience with that big-bore AR round, the .450 Bushmaster?

Ruger-Gunsite Scout Rifle in .450 Bushmaster
https://www.ruger.com/products/gunsiteScoutRifle/specSheets/6837.html

450 Bushmaster: Extraordinary Large Bore Cartridge
https://ammosquared.com/450-bushmaster-extraordinary-large-bore-cartridge/
Because this cartridge was specifically designed with the AR-15 platform in mind, it easily fits single stacked in a standard AR-15 magazine with a single shot follower. Therefore, a 10-round AR-15 magazine body will contain 5 rounds and a 20-round AR-15 magazine body will contain 9-rounds whereas, a 30-round magazine body will contain 13 rounds.

So, with a muzzle velocity of 2,100 fps to 2,200 fps, the .450 Bushmaster is certainly not a slow cartridge and, with a 250 grain or 260 grain bullet delivering 2,800 ft/lbs of kinetic energy at the muzzle, it is absolutely devastating on impact! Therefore, it is no wonder that this cartridge has become so popular among military Special Forces personnel as well as medium and large game hunters who prefer the AR-15 platform since it has the power needed to instantly stop enemy soldiers wearing standard body armor as well as both large and dangerous game species at relatively long ranges. https://ammosquared.com/450-bushmaster-extraordinary-large-bore-cartridge/

>>109616

Impact area also plays a factor, so equal mass and velocity but spread out over different areas would make a difference in effectiveness.

Remember The Club anti-theft steering wheel lock from the 1980s?
Here's one touted to double as a weapon:
"The car lock make of Hardened steel, Weighing 3.1 pounds. When you are in danger, is a good self-defense weapons."
One end has a spike for breaking car windows in an emergency.
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Adjustable-Anti-Theft-Self-defense-Emergency/dp/B074X6QKHF/

Found one of these in the disorganized shitpile of a second arms room I'm taking over at work. So fucking stupid, but next time I end up in the field this stupid ho is getting hand receipted out and coming strapped on my IOTV obviously.

>>109752
Those were actually issued?

>>109753
Yes I can confirm this.