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No. 108353 ID: a76e3f hide watch quickreply [Reply]
  Wouldn't this shit be great in firearms?
>> No. 108354 ID: f5c3ed
>Less parts, lighter weight potentially
Maybe the concept would be applicable in the recoil mechanism concept of the KRISS Vector? Might add bulk but not much weight and control recoil well?

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108322 No. 108322 ID: ceb044 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Tavor in 7.62x51 seriously considering one, not sure if it's even available yet. Seems like the perfect rifle, though I'm a bit out of the loop, any thoughts?
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>> No. 108328 ID: 9dcda2
  Correction, on the Tavor 7 the ejection can be swapped without changing any parts.

However you're still not switching shoulders on the fly.
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Been looking at the keltech RFB as well, seems comparable and so much cheaper. Actually starting to look like the best choice.
>> No. 108347 ID: d3cbb0
I too was drooling of the Tavor until... I held one. Felt cheap and the trigger sucked (bullpup I know but still)
I had an RFB for a time and it was surprisingly reliable even with Brown Bear garbage ammo and alternating brass nato and wolf. It did fine. Eventually it ended up in my friend's possession and he put a suppressor on it and it broke the ?slide?operating plate? spring retainer piece? The company sent him a Gen 2 part which was beefier and that did the job. It was actually a decent gun. Good luck checking the chamber though...
>> No. 108349 ID: bbee29
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Having owned a Tavor for a few years, I don't think the T7 will change my thoughts on Tavors in general.

>bullpup (this being a pro is up to you, but I do find the same OAL with less short-barrel-muzzle-blast is good along with the other commonly mentioned stuff)
>quick mag changes, shot-to-shot on timer of 2.5 seconds average after a few hours of practice, better shooters could get sub2 pretty easily
>overall a good firearm
>can be shot both shoulders because brass deflector

>inaccurate, especially for the price
>heavier than what they say it weighs
>rear heavy, with reciprocating mass well above the shooter's firing hand making the gun teeter-totter in recoil impulse. The shooter's firing hand becomes a bit of a pivot point where the rifle can rock muzzle up as the BCG travels rear and muzzle down as the BCG goes home (for me anyway, other shooters might not have this issue)
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>> No. 108350 ID: bbee29
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AR-15 impulse by comparison. This particular AR has a 14.5" barrel, FA BCG, carbine gas, and a regular birdcage. The difference is more dramatic when shooting them side by side versus watching a potatocam video.

No. 105415 ID: 19518e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
  A while ago we had a thread about high-speed photography and such. I think my friend and I took some curious pictures today, not sure how interesting they will be, but it was enlightening to learn what a DSLR could do in this kind of situation.

The camera in question is an Olympus E-510 with a Zuiko 14-58 F2.8 lens, a little dated and nothing special to begin with. In the midday sun, we were able to get a fast enough shutter to be able to capture bullets. Because of how these kinds of shutters function, the bullets are still quite blurry and faint but they're still visible.

Video is related to explain how the shutters typically work, to explain why the bullets weren't exactly as crisp as one would expect from shutter speeds of 1/4000th of a second, and why they're blurry in a slightly asymmetrical way due to a "rolling shutter" effect.

Also these guys shooting a giggle-switched AR-15 was adorable, great footage as well.
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>> No. 108232 ID: f2172d
good reminder to not mindlessly tap rang bang malfunctions as soon as they happen.
>> No. 108338 ID: c2c3ac
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Some more Shadow 2, this time it's actually mine
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To be fair these are rare in the worst of cases and really only happen with dubious ammo. I think it would be best to immediately clear a malfunction normally and if you're using ammo that could be weird, make a note to let the malfunction sit for a second as an exception.
>> No. 108348 ID: 9dcda2

Bow chicka wow wow.

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107430 No. 107430 ID: f6327b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
I just returned from my first IPSC Shotgun match, the Shotgun World Shoot in France where I placed atleast above last place. Anyone else here with who actually shoot matches in IPSC/USPSA/2-Gun/3-Gun or similar?
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>> No. 108340 ID: c2c3ac
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Also, think I should bring my Steyr-Hahn to the next one? :P
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4 fun
>> No. 108342 ID: 9dcda2
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> Had my first USPSA match last week. Learned a lot about my shooting and there's much room for improvement. That said, it was a ton of fun and everyone was incredibly nice and helpful.

Great job dude. I thought you shot pretty well. You'll get faster. Just work on safe and smooth for now.

With your stage two poppers, you got excited and blew your wad, then slowed down and recovered. Good work there.

When you hit, speed up. When you miss, slow down. All too often when someone's shooting and they miss, they try to speed up to make up for the miss, and miss more.

> Now it's all I can really think about, haha

Yer fuckin' hooked.


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>> No. 108345 ID: 9dcda2
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And how do you people have so much room on your belts? I added a baldric (the "Mike Haggar" belt) to mine to help with the weight. It was fine till I got the shadow. That thing is a tank.

Thinking about rigging up some suspenders, rather than the luggage strap I zip tied on.
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Thanks for the kind words man
>derp and oofset
Very good point. I'll have to do the same to my holster

>Haggar belt

I'm not sure about the belt real estate. I bought this under and over belt combo from Stormrider Gear some years ago and it uses MOLLE on the outside portion of the belt. I don't know if it helps, but I guess the accessories were designed not to take much space

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105744 No. 105744 ID: 8c18eb hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Bond Arms derringers with custom grips and holsters.
These were listed on Etsy.
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>> No. 108317 ID: f5c3ed
Just learned that Bond Arms makes .45 ACP barrels. Do they genuinely make good backup pistols? A pocket holster seems like a good way to carry one. Maybe for house carry as a minimalist option. Anyone carry one?
>> No. 108318 ID: dd2fee
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I carry an inexpensive American Derringer Corp M-1 .45 Colt/.410x2.5" snake gun when I go on hikes in rattlesnake country or occasionally when I carry concealed. Back in the late '80s in San Jose, California, I was hiking with a friend in the hills and we came upon a large rattlesnake under a thorny bush. We could have just gone around the angry reptile, but my friend pulled out a stainless steel clone of a Remington 1865 Double Derringer Model 95 and fired at the snake. His gun was loaded with .410 shotgun cartridges filled with small birdshot. Worked like a charm! Dead rattlesnake. Remember to carry this in an open holster if you do not have a concealed carry permit.

My ADC Derringer is heavy for it's size (especially when compared to modern pocket pistols) and the single-action hammer is very stiff (especially when compared to single-action revolvers like the Ruger Vaquero). Breaking the barrels open is very stiff as well (especially when compared to other derringers). She only has a half-inch of rifled barrel where the 2.5" shotgun breach stop is. Will also fire the substantial .45 Colt cartridge and the recoil is not as punishing as I thought it would be. Some .410 shotgun cartridges load 3 or 4 000 buckshot or slugs or compact metal discs, but many of these self defense .410 loads are for the 3" cartridges and larger derringers that load them. The round rosewood grips are nice and they fit my hand nicely even though the handle is so small. She has a hammer-blocking safety button (important!) and very rudimentary sights. Back when I bought this, in the early '90s, they were around $100, in I remember right. Now, they are $500! Ludicrous! But they chamber the 3" shotgun cartridges, so you get that.

For conceal carry, the Double Derringer is not bad, but you only have two shots, but those shots are substantial.
>> No. 108319 ID: dd2fee
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For pocket pistols in .45 ACP, there are many to choose from. Glock 36, Colt Defender, Sig Sauer P250 Compact, Kahr CW45, and the expensive Kimber Super Carry Ultra HD.

In the battle of concealed carry firearms with the slimmest profile, the Springfield XD-S has taken the crown. With its 0.9 inch slide width, it has overtaken the KAHR pistol as the concealed carry .45 caliber pistol with the slimmest profile. It comes in 3.3" and 4.0" barrel lengths.
>> No. 108320 ID: dd2fee
  Shooting the Two-Shot 45 ACP/9x19mm Convertible Derringer from DoubleTap Defense.- Gunblast.com https://youtu.be/w6mMinG6RRI

DoubleTap 9mm 45ACP Derringer Type Pocket Gun Overview - Texas Gun Blog https://youtu.be/CcVsD4rKQp4
>> No. 108321 ID: f5c3ed
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My go to summer carry is my Shield .45. Winter/heavy clothing carry is my Sig P220 DAK. Although the Shield is small, it's not pocket carry small.

No. 108235 ID: 6affc4 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  Bummer they don't let you use tungsten and teflon for boolits.
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>> No. 108260 ID: 9dcda2
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> While you are correct aren't there rounds that have a track record of achieving one shot stops much more often than others. Like .357 magnum, for example? Isn't it the same for shotguns? Or is it just hearsay?

Now we're not saying energy isn't important, but that it's only one factor. Shotgun energy is on a different order of magnitude. It's got a shitton of mass and some decent velocity.
>> No. 108261 ID: 9dcda2
  Here's a video I did 10 years ago. (Holy fuck.) Notice that not much happens until you get to real rifle rounds and the back gets blown out of the paper. And then the two shots with the Mosin, the first with FMJ just punched a .30 caliber hole. The second round was a soft points blew the fuck out if it.

Same muzzle energy, different effect on target.
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Speaking of fucked up ballistics...

Franklin Reformation gimmick or useful?
Military Arms Channel

>> No. 108297 ID: 5d76a7
Major gimmick. I guess 950fps isn't THAT much slower than the 147 grain RA9Bs I like that tend to push just right at or under 1000fps, but I don't see these +M hollow points (although that's a pretty clever name from a branding perspective) expanding wider, penetrating deeper, fragmenting widely, shattering pelvises or magically exsanguinating bad dudes faster than the RA9Bs that I pay under $.50 a round for. Handguns suck pretty equally. If the expected use case for these is to penetrate deeper for dangerous game or something, I wouldn't choose 9mm to begin with.

We used to use heavy bullets because we were limited by black powder. Then the entire world, with all of its empirical data and real life experiences, transitioned to lighter bullets pushing higher velocities for just about every purpose.

I'm only interested in these as a testing ground for two-piece cartridge casing. That seems neat.
>> No. 108298 ID: 6affc4
Funny how all these weird NFA regulations spawn guns that are tailor-made for massacring civilians and just about useless for anything else.

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  For a modest price of 7500$ you too can see the legend come back to life!
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>> No. 106473 ID: 1989a8
  It's getting more expensive, lmao.
Still, what a cool looking piece.
>> No. 108255 ID: 6affc4
Seems like they dropped the whole "field pistol means it's for the military/pmc" thing.
>> No. 108257 ID: bbee29
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>[without the recoil compensation weight system] it would break your wrist every time
>> No. 108263 ID: c935e2
That's cringey as fuck, though Ian and Karl's bertstare during the introduction was gold. Pity it's not based on a 1911, because I feel like boomers would eat that shit up (if they could afford it).
>> No. 108264 ID: e56201
I know it's silly and the ammo will be very hard to find, and eventually impossible, but it's such a great looking gun that I want one. I don't want one enough to pay for it, but damn.

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108187 No. 108187 ID: fd074e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
This is the most adorable thing I never knew I needed...I can only hope they do one for every WWI & WWII era bolt action.
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>> No. 108191 ID: 91d5af
That's adorable.
>> No. 108197 ID: c935e2
I've heard it's a single shot. As sweet as that looks, if it doesn't feed from the magazine I'm a lot less interested. I mean, it doesn't look that hard to hide a CZ455 magazine in the Mosin magazine profile.
>> No. 108201 ID: 91d5af
It looks like a cricket barreled action with sights in a Mosin stock.
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Yeah, that's a bummer. I was hoping for something like the Norinco TU-KKW CZ clone I had, but in Mosin form.

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108078 No. 108078 ID: e31b34 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
are these good?
>> No. 108079 ID: f2172d
I'd still want to see tests. Buy one, put it in a backpack and fill the backpack with sand. Then shoot it with a powerful handgun and see how it performs. Also, it won't stop rifle rounds, which you will need a ceramic or steel plate for.

At a minimum, tell your kid to turn the backpack to the front during a shooting. Textbooks will do a lot to slow/stop bullets. From experience, 2 inches of phone book will stop a .22lr round. Obviously something like a .50AE will still be lethal, see the woman who got charged with manslaughter for killing her boyfriend after he asked her to shoot him in the chest with a Desert Eagle (while holding a book).
>> No. 108133 ID: e9cfb0
I'm not sure if "Ballistic Level IIIA Lab Tested" actually means anything. Since these are probably meant to be sold off to scared mothers, I'm guessing they used as little kevlar as possible to theoretically get to IIIA level and then skipped on the expensive process of actually getting anything NIJ certified.

They could still work but I'd want to see results for myself.

No. 108064 ID: b27d97 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  I know it's very scaleable but how scaleable is it? Can you make a rolling block rifle for African game calibers or .50 BMG? What about .950 JDJ?
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>> No. 108095 ID: b27d97
>Don't think I'm trying to dissuade you from this project

Haha, bless your soul man. I'm from a no guns country and have no machinist skills, just a blue collar office guy. Just thought maybe somebody maybe already tried something similar or knows about it.
>> No. 108108 ID: 61e76a
If it were me doing a big bore rolling block, I'd be tempted by building a 10 or 12ga mag/supermag with slugs.

Comparatively much lower pressure and you've still got a big bang with a monster piece of lead going down range. Would be handy for stopping a charging waterbuffalo too.
>> No. 108109 ID: b27d97
It would be cool to do what this dude is describing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sWnqIspa9o but in rolling block action.
>> No. 108113 ID: 61e76a
I mean, yeah, but effort.

.244 H&H is a thing.

>> No. 108116 ID: b27d97
That´s a rifle round though, no? Smooth-bores are interesting in that, as the guy said, they don´t swage the bullet and don´t heat up as much and the length of the bullet not being an issue since you don´t have to figure out the twist rate. You can theoretically go crazy with hard exotic alloys since you don´t have to machine the rifling.

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