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106668 No. 106668 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Hello all.

I'm trying to find a new handguard for my AR. I'm not terribly picky but do specifically want a few features:
Free Float
Cannot be used as a cheesegrater.

I'm looking at pulling the trigger next week or so on the pictured Yankee Hill but would like other recommendations.
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>> No. 106770 ID: 6ca38e
Love my BCM KMR handguard on my PBEAR MkII. Lightweight, not too thick, a good fit for my hands. They also have the Mlok MCMR now. Either should come in under your budget. Just I would suggest if you go with the KMR that you get the aluminum "Alpha" version rather than the magnesium alloy version. It's fine if you're not gonna put anything load bearing on it, but keymod is already weaker than mlok, no need to exacerbate the issue. (I know one OPERATOR who managed to rip off his vfg at the range with an original KMR)
>> No. 106853 ID: 815268
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>>106748
>>106747

>muh pri and swan sleeve
>> No. 106862 ID: 6ef9f1
>>106853
>>106747
Is PRI Duracoatable?
>> No. 106978 ID: 974bbc
>>106862
I don't see why it wouldn't be, but I'd probably not sand blast it since it's mostly carbon fiber. Scuff it up, clean it with denatured alcohol really well and then paint it. You could probably even oven cure it, but I've not attempted it on mine.
>> No. 106994 ID: 815268
>>106862
Probably. You can get the tubes in black, tan, or green.

>>106978
Mine isn't the CF version, but it's not smooth texture.


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106885 No. 106885 ID: 41441c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
SHOULDA STUCK WITH THE M9!
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/18047/armys-new-pistols-often-eject-live-rounds-and-dont-work-well-with-regular-bullets
>The Pentagon recently released a report that shows testing of the M17 and M18 handguns exposed a number of significant and persistent deficiencies, including firing accidentally if a shooter dropped the gun, ejecting live ammunition, and low reliability with traditional "ball" cartridges with bullets enclosed inside a full metal jacket.
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>> No. 106979 ID: 6ed282
>>106887
>no rational reason

It's a steel frame.
>> No. 106985 ID: e0deaf
>>106979
>It's a steel frame.

I'd argue that that's largely a negative for a service weapon.

Pistols are used infrequently, but carried a lot. Making them lighter is in my opinion superior, which means getting rid of the steel frame.

Steel also can freeze to your hands when handled in extreme cold, where polymer doesn't.
Steel can be too hot to touch when left in the sun, as can polymer. Though polymer can also become squishy or brittle when overheated.

I'm a big fan of steel framed guns, but for service weapons, it makes little sense. For soldiers and MPs, a polymer framed pistol seems like an easy choice. Specialist units like SF or CID etc should probably get to decide for themselves what they prefer to use.
>> No. 106986 ID: 8c968b
>>106979
But that, you mean aluminum? It's not 1945.
>> No. 106987 ID: 9dcda2
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>>106986
I was trying to figure that out too. The M9 uses an aluminum frame and the M17 uses a stainless steel chassis, inside a polymer frame.

Whatever.
>> No. 106991 ID: f5c3ed
>>106987
Cost


No. 106804 ID: 0c0c91 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
  Whats up, nerds
>> No. 106807 ID: 9dcda2
>>106804
Your dot's missing. My M&P did the same thing.
>> No. 106808 ID: e0deaf
>>106807
>Your dot's missing. My M&P did the same thing.

Common issue?

>>106804

How'd you like the inforce APL?
People like the looks & size, but often say it's rather easy to break.
>> No. 106818 ID: d79e18
>>106808
I'm guessing so. Happened to someone I know, paint cracked and basically fell out under normal use.
>> No. 106859 ID: 30d556
That's pretty.
>> No. 106881 ID: 1dec8f
>>106808
So it's not a common thing, but I'm pretty sure we've both thrown our pistols like baseballs at one point.

I can say that the TLR1 HD will take some serious beatings before the lens cracks, his Inforce hasn't had *any* issues whatsoever.


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106851 No. 106851 ID: 1e7cfb hide watch quickreply [Reply]
So this thing finally launched.

https://firecontrolunit.com
>> No. 106867 ID: 738b31
kinda cool
>> No. 106872 ID: 4bcf58
Since P320 the fire control group is the "firearm" so do you just buy a PDW kit and move your fire control over and it's good to go?
>> No. 106873 ID: c3b8cf
>>106872

I would think so.
>The X01 standard model can be chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, .357 SIG, and .40 S&W by transplanting the corresponding P320® components (.45 ACP is in development, as the changes in magazine well dimensions require a specialized lower grip module).

https://firecontrolunit.com/?page_id=1318
>> No. 106875 ID: 4bcf58
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>>106873
Pistol bracer with VFG hehe, also the lower looks like it was 3D printed with how rough looking near the muzzle is.

IIRC there is a company making 80% SIG P320 not sure anything came about of it, this was before the SIGDrop Meme


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106779 No. 106779 ID: b1f0f8 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Got a police trade in M&P .45 from Aim Surplus.
>> No. 106780 ID: b1f0f8
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106780
Cost me $412 after shipping and transfer fees. Shoots OK at 25 yards. I tried some JHPs and SWCs earlier today
>> No. 106805 ID: b1f0f8
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106805
20' indoors. I think after this I'm going to buy a small sized backstrap after today. Because it was a police tradein it didn't come with anything other than the installed medium one.
>> No. 106847 ID: f5c3ed
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106847
After ordering a Streamlight TLR-4 (for $70!) and looking into who makes a hybrid holster that will accept a 4" M&P .45 with one attached, I came across this:
http://osbornholsters.com/tacticaltuck-iwb-1/
Anyone deal with them before? Recommend, not recommend, any better hybrid out there that fits my requirements?
>> No. 106858 ID: 30d556
Lucky you


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105841 No. 105841 ID: 19518e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
So it's really hard to get anything for .587" bore but my buddy has some old lead bullets for his 577 Snider black powder.

I figured 170 grains of Trail Boss might be able to get a 520 grain lead bullet out the barrel.

The results were... Interesting.
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>> No. 106841 ID: e0deaf
>>106838

Yes, the difference in recoil energy is why I asked. I'd suspect that pistol recoil is sharper and quicker, but 14.5 would be heavier (though the weight of the gun & the brake may mitigate that). However, a handgun has "give" in the hands and arms that are holding it, especially with the super big magnums. Your shoulder when prone is going to move way less.
>> No. 106843 ID: 19518e
>>106841
The PTRD has 3" of stock travel for recoil mitigation and to cam the bolt handle as to start extraction so that should have a similar effect.

It's also why long eye relief is important.
>> No. 106844 ID: 19518e
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106844
WEBM related. Quite a simple way to get this single-shot to help the shooter extract a case. Since the cartridge is so large, having a stuck case would be problematic as the force required to unstick it might be quite high. Having the bolt handle kicked up by a ramped surface is a good way to unstick a case and it doubles as a way to dampen felt recoil. The spring in the stock is pretty stiff, but if you're in a shooting position you can compress it without too much effort just by pulling the gun in your shoulder with both arms.

We can tell that hard extraction was a concern, as the PTRD-41 cocks on closing like an Enfield. This reduces the force required to open the bolt as the shooter doesn't have to cock the firing pin on opening. When throwing a new cartridge in there, the shooter can take a running start and throw the bolt into battery; the bolt will cock on closing mostly under inertia of the bolt's forward movement as the shooter pushes it closed. Couple this with the bolt handle ramp, and we can see that the PTRD was designed with care for the user in many respects.

It's quite fast and easy and it is a well thought-out system.
>> No. 106848 ID: e0deaf
>>106843

I knew of the travel, but I always assumed it was merely a "starter" for the unlocking. Certainly not past an inch.

Neat to see your webm.

With all that in place, I'd expect the scope to hold up fine.
>> No. 106849 ID: 19518e
>>106848
Depending on the shooter, his position, and the ammo, the bolt can get enough inertia to open completely and kick the empty case out but that happening is basically a bonus. Most of the time the shooter will simply sweep his right hand back to grab the handle where ever it could be to ensure the bolt is open and the empty is out so a new round can be shoved in.

Having said that, I will say that it is pretty cool when it does run open by itself and you feel/hear the case ding-dong'ing on the ground so you chuck a new round in there while grabbing the bolt handle so you can throw it home and close it in a fastsmooth motion.


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106521 No. 106521 ID: 56139e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I got some crazy ideas I want to try someday.

First off, some kind of solid metal gauntlet, attached to an elbow brace. With a mechanism on the knuckles that holds shotgun shells and fires them when you punch.
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>> No. 106650 ID: df12a0
>>106521
Like Yang Xiao Long, from Rooster Teeth's "RWBY" series?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9WPfwPzdg
>> No. 106652 ID: a70f4c
  >>106650
I remember watching their Rage Quit series. Therapy for frustrated video gamers.
Rage Quit - Secret Santa https://youtu.be/6ULGut9qG6A
>> No. 106661 ID: 30d556
OP is mentally ill. Please video record your autism.
>> No. 106744 ID: 09c7e0
>>106528
>What would be the brightest lights you could take down into a cave? What about back ups that don't depend on electricity?

flamethrower, but i want u that the jidf takes a dim view of burning jews, even underground cavejews sets them off.
>> No. 106812 ID: ad2a44
I have always thought of having a 20mm arm cannon to wear while driving.
If you are held up through your window (happened to friend while I was in back seat before) you don’t have to wait for the perpetrator to bleed out.


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105892 No. 105892 ID: 1519ac hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I wanna build a Para FAL to go with my Imbel fullsize, but I can't decide between an surplus Imbel front end with a 17.2" barrel for $300, or a brand new DSA with a 16" barrel for $495. What do?
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>> No. 106448 ID: 1519ac
Surprisingly hard to pick up a bolt for a FAL. The Para kit came with a carrier but no bolt, I snagged an Ausfailian L1A1 stripped bolt for $40.
>> No. 106666 ID: 1519ac
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106666
Just a mockup. Lots of work to do, still need to make a receiver wrench and barrel vice, torque the barrel, install correct locking shoulder, and source a few more small parts. Oh, and figure out what I'm doing to permanently attach the mag.
>> No. 106752 ID: a70f4c
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7.92x33mm FAL Modification at GunLab
This is Pete’s , a friend of Gun Lab, version of a 7.92×33 rifle. His solution was to put in a new ejector block of his design with a spring loaded ejector. Then remove 0.900″ from the magazine to fit the 7.92×33 round.
With the last post we made on the 7.92×33 FN-FAL we showed a FAL that had a new ejector block and magazine made to allow the rifle to shoot 7.92×33. This post will show a different approach to reach the same conclusion, shooting 7.92×33. This series of photographs comes from another friend of Gun Lab and how he converted his rifle to use MP-44 magazines. This version the owner cut down the receiver by 0.900 and welded support plates to enlarge the magazine housing. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/08/11/7-92x33mm-fal-modification-at-gunlab/
>> No. 106753 ID: a70f4c
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>> No. 106754 ID: a70f4c
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The first prototype of what was then the FN Universal Carbine, but that would become the FN FAL (Light Automatic Rifle), was not chambered for the familiar 7.62×51 NATO, nor its competitor round the .280 British, but in the German 7.92x33mm Kurzpatrone round developed in 1942 for the MKb. 42(H) (the predecessor of the famous Sturmgewehr).
- The FN “Universal Carbine”, prototype No. 1. This was the only rifle in the FAL family chambered at the factory for 7.92x33mm Kurz. Image source: gunlab.net


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>> No. 104954 ID: a8dbe2
>>104950
Is actually not a bad idea. Jerry rig a shelf with zip ties and a metal ring or even a whisker biscuit.
>> No. 104959 ID: f0fb5d
>>104954
If size/concealment is a concern, you could go with a sling-bow with some strong elastic.

It won't be as strong as a bow and probably even slower to reload but maybe that doesn't matter. People make a fuss over the psychological effect of being shot making people stop, drop or run away because of what we all see on TV and the movies and I don't think that's a reliable way to stop a threat, but I imagine suddenly hearing a THWAP, feeling a sharp pain and seeing an arrow sticking out of your chest is an existentially introspective experience.
>> No. 104985 ID: 223405
>>104959
People go hog hunting with the slingbow, it's not a bad choice for this.
>> No. 106677 ID: adaa24
I'd rather a baseball bat than a bow in a self defense situation. Bows are great offensive weapons, but terrible defensively.

Get a fucking gun. Fuck, a knife duck taped to a broom would be infinitely better than a bow.
>> No. 106743 ID: 09c7e0
>>106677
if u can move unhittably fast at all times it don't make too much difference what weapon you have. iga ninja with a butterknife slaughters your whole "trained" infantry platoon.
the dude in OP video probably gets that.
he also seems to get that guns have taken a lot of the fun and athleticism out of fighting to the death.

imagine this: one second you're in a combat zone and it seems like maybe some shit might be about to happen but you're for sure not in the heat of battle. you might not even have your rifle shouldered, you might be just hanging out. next second you're in valhalla. shit son you just died in modern battle. some fuck u never saw popped you from 3000m or from 30km. now you're in valhalla and you got no stories to trade with the other guys.

compare that to being in the heat of battle in war of the roses era, where u could like punch people and kick them in the balls before stabbing them. thats a lot more fun sounding


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106662 No. 106662 ID: 704636 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
https://ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/models.html

Looks like Ruger is taking their PRS success with the RPR and parlaying it into the rimfire trainer market. MSRP is $529, which means a $425-$450 street price. If it shoots worth a damn, they're going to sell a pile of them.
>> No. 106664 ID: 128ea0
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106664
>>106662
>If PRS rimfire isn't mainstream yet, it will be after this

I'd certainly hope so... But I really wish it'd be so focused on the budget market.

I really have no issue whatsoever to spend a large amount of coin on a high quality .22LR. Especially if it's accurate, reliable and has a left hand bolt.

Recently another interesting company launched a tactical trainer line btw: vudoogunworks.com
As far as I can tell, they should fit in any Rem700 chassis, which makes it quite interesting.
Note that these vudoo ones are easily over $2000.
>> No. 106665 ID: 704636
>>106664
Yeah, Vudoos are Remington 40Xs with magazines. They're probably as accurate as .22LRs get.

I'm not sure if they're sold over in Euroland, but here in the US Anschutz sells rimfire trainer models in Manners T6 stocks:
https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/rimfire-trainer-series.html

One of those is a good option if you hate money and want an accurate out of the box .22LR. You could also get some of the 54 action guns, but they're mostly set up for Olympic and NRA small bore shooting. I think Anschutz sells lefty models too in the 54 and 64 series.

CZ also sells 455s in Manners stocks as well (I think they're T4s). 455s are right hand only, though:
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-455-varmint-precision-trainer-camo-22-lr-5-rd-mag-manners-composite-stock/

The new Steyr Zephyr II might be an option too. They're priced around low end Anschutzs in the US market:
http://steyrarms.com/firearms/zephyrii.html
>> No. 106667 ID: 128ea0
>>106665
>US Anschutz sells rimfire trainer models in Manners T6 stocks

I'm aware, but any information request to Anschutz Germany goes unanswered, especially if you're asking about lefties.

>One of those is a good option if you hate money and want an accurate out of the box .22LR. You could also get some of the 54 action guns, but they're mostly set up for Olympic and NRA small bore shooting. I think Anschutz sells lefty models too in the 54 and 64 series.

The vast majority of those are single shot though. Very accurate indeed, but I wanted a repeater.
For right handed people, the MPR seems like a good choice, but they don't make it lefty anymore.

>CZ also sells 455s in Manners stocks

Not a particular fan of CZ .22LRs.

>The new Steyr Zephyr II might be an option too.
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>> No. 106699 ID: 128ea0
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106699
New Tikka T1x.
>> No. 106700 ID: 704636
>>106699
That's pretty exciting. It undercuts CZs in price, and will probably meet or exceed their quality and accuracy.


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