>>107136
Reminds me of range stories, such as one about people shooting a semi-auto Tommy Gun and suddenly it went full-auto after burning through a number of drums. The shooter had good presence of mind and kept hold of the out-of-control Thompson until all the ammo remaining in that 50-round drum was expended. Don't know if it was a mechanical malfunction or an ammo cook-off from a hot breech. When it went haywire, he yelled something along the lines of "Holy moley! My finger's off the trigger but this Devil machine is firing on its own!" Perhaps with responses like "Dude, you're in unlawful possession of an unlicensed machine-gun. The Feds'll send you up the river for thirty years!"

It does happen
National guard drill instructor convicted
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=14780

>>107137
I've heard you can get the same effect with a milsurp SKS if it's not cleaned properly before use. Floating firing pin gets gummed up with Cosmoline and sticks, striking the primer as soon as the round is chambered and keeps going until the mag is empty.

And then there was the magazine article about doing a trigger job on an AK that neglected to mention that their method could make a slamfiring illegal machine gun.

>>107138
The way I understand that is if you knowingly replicate a malfunction causing "machine gun" fire, it's illegal, but if it's a legit accident and you don't keep doing it, you're probably okay.

>>107147
I've had a slamfire happen with S&B commercial ammo in my SKS, it was clean and the firing pin was perfectly free.

Thankfully it only fired one round that way as I hadn't finished topping it up, so my dogs weren't shot.

>>107136
>>107137
Well, I only happened to have three rounds left in the magazine, so I have no idea if it would've continued if there were more, or if it would've done a burst and stopped.

>>107147
Yeah, it only happened once, and hasn't happened again since its last cleaning, so I should be good for a while.

No, really, I ask... who would pay that kind of money for this?

Reminds me of explaining the advantages of having a tribble...

SPOCK - There is something disquieting about these creatures.
MCCOY - Oh? Don't tell me you've got a feeling, Spock?
SPOCK - Of course not, Doctor. They remind me somewhat of the lilies of the field. They toil not, neither do they spin... but they seem to eat a great deal. I see no practical use for them.
MCCOY - Does everything have to have a practical use for you? They're... nice. They're furry and soft. They make a pleasant sound.
SPOCK - So would an ermine violin, Doctor, but I see no advantage in one.

>>102987
We lost a bunch of images in older threads due to a software fuck-up awhile ago, though it looks like most of those have been pushed off the end of the board already. Stoplossed's ancient M1 Garand improvement thread, >>90456, still shows the effect, but that's no reason to delete the whole thing.

I went and deleted that whole thread myself. About half of the images were unviewable.

Anyone tried a shotgun suppressor?
- US Remington 870 MCS AOW shotgun with a Salvo suppressor.

>>102960
You meant to type the feds shoot your dog, kids, and wife.

>>102941
fuckin useless but fun. get bird shot and get good at hip firing its a blast

Preemptive haters reply.

When spouting off, please see.
>>107091

>>107088
On a more serious note this weapon has everything that I desire in a concealed carry weapon.

I carry with one in the chamber. Just how I roll. This for me in my mind requires that I must have a manual safety on the weapon as I do not have full control of the weapon while it is holstered.

I know it may be weird to some. Just my requirement.

Bonus, it comes with a trigger safety as well.

12+1 standard, comes with 2 mags.

Very happy with this gun.

The G2c version comes without the Taurus security locking system.

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>>107092
> 12+1 standard

What's the size like? I'm guessing as wide as a glock 19, but shorter barrel and grip?

On a scale of 1 to staple gun, how's the trigger?

  >>107093
>What's the size like?
Fits my hand perfectly. Could see this being a little small on the grip for the 6'+ crowd until a more firmed up aftermarket version of the extended pinky rest mag comes out.

Beyond the troughs in the front the entire slide is tapered slightly, the gun is extremely easy to draw.

>On a scale of 1 to staple gun, how's the trigger?
Hmm... What to say here.

First, you can and should totally ride the trigger bar on reset. It is firm and the reset is very short. See the video.

I plan on dumping a lot of rounds through this gun to get it down.

You may also hear about it being "gritty". That was resolved on the g2c by removing the Taurus security locking system. There was not grit for me, only a firm bar and short reset. There is an aftermarket for non C models that disengages the key safety and removes the grit as well. I don't own the earlier models so I do not have any issues here.

  Taurus Millennium PT111 G2 https://youtu.be/MH3tJrK2ma4

>>107050
Yeah... It looks pretty comedic.

>>107062

>>107063

>>107049
>$70

That plus at least $45 for the Anderson lower is just a few bucks shy of a dedicated Glock mag lower. But if you intend on removing the adapter and swapping the buffer to use a standard 5.56 or whatever upper than I can see the benefit.

>>107077
Right - It's that I had an Anderson lower laying around already, since I bought it when I was sure Hillary was gonna be prez. If I had to start from scratch, definitely get a dedicated lower.

  Derp. Forgot the link:
https://www.youtube.com/user/historichunter/videos?flow=grid&sort=p&view=0

>>103265
>>103266

I actually should 3d print my own fletching jig. I own a 3d printer. It would make my life a lot easier to not have to rely upon the range owner's equipment to make my own arrows, which I will need to do by myself eventually.

Also, range report. Today was my first day shooting these bamboo arrows and comparing them against my shoot from yesterday with my carbon arrows.

My carbon arrows weren't able to hold a group at 10m, and I rarely actually hit the target at all.

My bamboo arrows held a group at 20m on a standard 18m traditional archery 40cm ring target. Zero misses.

It's really bizarre. Everything on paper says that my carbon arrows should be better. Everything. Spine charts say my bamboo arrows are too lightly spined. They flex unevenly depending on how you flex them! Yet, they fly straight in flight, and my carbon arrows wobble about as if they are *under spined*.

I don't get it.

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>>103272
If you get a hang for knapping please share it. I never could get something passable out of glass.

Here's the STL's of the jig, by the way. I just used some nails for the hinges and that's fine since they aren't a terribly important part.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:609300

  Long live the archery thread, I guess.

I'm a complete retard, what should I read or watch to start learning about making my own arrows? I am spending too much money on store bought arrows.

>>107032
I thought it was pretty much considered a plinker.

They're unreliable even when they're "reliable". I've yet to meet anyone that has one that cycles 100% every time. Some people love it for what it is, others don't. I know a couple guys that carry them on their trap lines.

There are a ton (new)on gunbroker for around that price shipped on cursory glance. Just find a place that'll do an FFL transfer and you'll be golden. It's pretty easy. Most places charge $15-50. I charge $25 where I work.

The .22 Magnum is a good varminting round and our nation's morgues has proved it's a killer. I like how many .22 LR single-action revolvers can swap out their cylinders for .22 Magnum cylinders, transforming a target/plinker to a rat-blaster. My Ruger New Model Single-Six is a good example of this. Terrible capacity (6 compared to 30), slow to reload, but accurate, reliable and will shoot all brands if you can stick 'em in the cylinder.

Now I have heard over the years that the Kel-Tek PMR-30 has feeding problems (perhaps this is mainly from not working well with certain ammo brands or loads) to reports of the cast metal breach blowing apart and disassembly pins breaking. If these are actually recurring problems, then that is a deal-breaker for me. Anyone have practical experience with it?

Neat plinker because fuck reloading. I don't know that I'd trust a 22 Mag with my life when there are more reliable, more powerful, more easily concealable alternatives easily available from other reputable manufacturers.

>>107034
Apparently, this was fixed. I've read that the original PMR30 had a bunch or problems, it either F2F, F2E or some other problem. But, Kel-Tec heard the complaints and fixed it in later builds of the PMR30.
Now, my problem is that I have no idea how to tell the difference between the old PMR30 and a new one.

the last time there was nobody in national office to promote scare buying the republicans were smart enough to provide some loosening of the regulation to give people fun new things to buy. nra gives them enough money and support, thats for sure. they don't have something as convenient as the awb expiration lurking around the corner this time around unfortunately.

I kinda like some Remie when they aren't total pieces of shit so this is a little sad especially if the brand dies completely.

But its their own damn fault, same with Colt (though for different reasons, Colt didn't take advantage of the panic buying while Remington invested too heavily in it to my understanding). They knew that Obama gravy train wouldn't last forever and didn't take steps to take the hit without falling to the pavement wheezing and upchucking their lunch.

I kinda wonder if Remington and other companies ramped up production further in anticipation of a Hillary win.

The same problems facing many gun companies with slow sales and still angry customers burned from the panic buying price gouging seems to be what graphic card sellers and manufacturers are dealing with right now with the buttcoin crypto currency craze, graphics card prices going through the roof, inventory being sold faster then it can be replaced, and sites like Newegg price gouging the fuck out of people. Some like Nvidia are trying to mitigate the damage while others are diving headlong into the boom seeming to not care there will eventually be a bust.

For me personally I was kinda wanting to buy one of those Remington Phaser looking pistols but noped the fuck out when I heard about the problems the gun had. Just spent the money on something else, some slightly deformed looking .22 revolver and a 360 I still have yet to play.

>>107003
i'd suggest that a government subsidy for citizen weapons purchases, but republicoons don't like welfare (or poor ppl getting guns) so i came up with this more clever idea of like a gunz 401k, i think that could be sold to capitalist republicaniggers because it would allow them to use their power to funnel cash to their wall street backers as dictated by the natural order of capitalism. so if you had job you could preselect a percentage of it which you could only spend on guns and there would be no income tax collected on that portion. to the GOP it would look like a tax cut, they'd be all for it. plus only ppl with jobs would benefit another plus.
of course it never happen because the nra's thinks it's task it to collect as much megabux as possible and then give out infinite free rim jobs and get nothing out of it. worst lobbyists ever

Better buy that R1 I was considering a couple years ago.

OK, that didn't last very long

panic buy fucking everything

>>106876
The only thing that pissed me off was the mags that had very high mileage.
I ran some simple drills with it and during a 1 and 1 I basically ran the baseplate halfway off.

But that's not going to be an issue with new mags, the mags are very well made.

>>106877
Nah fam, though I did mention how I was concerned about manipulating a WML with it sitting so far low.
I was given the response that the toggle switch can be actuated with the middle finger and yeah I guess that would work with ample training.

My biggest concern is how well holsters with WMLs would work, because it wouldn't exactly be solid for retention unless you had a groove over the trigger on the kydex or whatever.

But it would probably wear faster.

>>106876
Oh, quirk I guess is that like the Gen 2 Glocks (not sure about newer ones) if you send the mag in hard enough, it drops the slide.

Which was kind of a neat trick when I started getting used to it.

Not gonna lie, the gun grew on me.
I love it.

But it's like that weird alt chick you kinda dig.
You wanna fool around with it, but you kind of know better than to fuck yourself up like that in front of other people.

Mostly because she has gauges in her nose and tries to wrangle you into MMF shit too much.

>>106879

My SP-01 will do that. Is fast.

  >>106813
Now in aluminum.

I'll never be able to afford one...

German WW1 Maxim Flak M14, a version of the 37mm Maxim-Nordenfelt gun.

Here's Hiram S. Maxim holding up his Maxim light gun and mount for prospective buyers.

MAXIM NORDENFELT 37MM “POM-POM”, NAVAL DECK GUN (EXEMPT FROM NFA).

SN 2024. Cal. 37mm. 51″ bbl. This exquisitely and professionally restored orig “one pounder” Maxim Nordenfelt automatic cannon is one of only very few extent of the early model. When found these are normally badly deteriorated having been exposed to the elements for decades, often as part of municipal historical monuments. This extraordinary specimen has the correct color gray paint covering the sideplates with a massive brass feed block incorporating an attractive wooden roller. It sets on an orig correct albeit non-matching SN Naval cone mount with brass cradle; the entire display piece is on a custom made wheeled dolly, making it manageable to move around. Actuating arm, feed slide, pawls and pins not present in feed block, nor is bolt present in receiver. Orig mainspring is included but not installed as the tabbed ends are not serviceable. Trigger bar, hand grip, cover, charging handle and external levers present and appear serviceable. Impressive orig brass spring cover also present on left side. Elevation adjustment wheel non-functional, however, steel pins and adjustable shaft allow one to display this piece pointing any number of positions of a wide vertical arc. Traverses smoothly through 360 degrees. This impressive display piece is non-functional due to missing the parts mentioned above and it is important to note that although this model is an automatic cannon with a rifled bore diameter greater than 1/2″ it has been declared “exempt” from the provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA). A copy of a BATF letter attesting to this fact for this model is provided. This model is of significant historical interest as it was originally manufactured in 1889 as part of a thirty gun initial production run (This class of Maxim started at #2001). http://jamesdjulia.com/item/3034-394/

The first sale of gun #2024, with 5 others was made to the Minister of Marine, St Petersburg, Russia in March of 1895. All six guns were rejected due to defects and were returned to the factory and rebuilt. The top cover is marked with the issue/rebuild date of 1895. The company was reorganized in 1897 and conducted business as Vickers, Sons and Maxim (VSM), thus there are VSM inspection stamps on the gun. It is clear that the gun was sold, used, factory rebuilt and remarked before ourchase by the U.S. Navy in the first days of the Spanish American War. This gun was included in the first group of sixteen guns that the U.S. Navy purchased in March of 1898. This very gun, Navy Registery number 5, along with gun #2026 registry #6 were placed on the MANNING, a U.S. revenue Cutter, in April 1898, at Norfolk U.S. Navy Yard, according to the records of the U.S. Bureau of Ordnance. The Manning was taken into U.S. Naval service and participated in the bombardment of Spanish positions off Cabanas, Cuba on May 12th 1898. Eventually, Maxim 1 Pdr. Automatic Guns of this type were declared obsolete in the years 1911/1912 and were removed from ships during this period. PROVENANCE: RG 74 Records of the Bureau of Ordnance; Record of Armament of Naval Vessals, 1841-1903; Registry of Mounts for Secondary Battery, 1888-1913. Pgs 116 and 118-E131 CONDITION: Overall appearance and finish is absolutely outstanding as restored with the brass jacket exhibiting a pleasing patina with a commensurate finish on the brass feed block and other brass parts. Metal sideplate exhibit correct gray Navy paint. Orig brass spring housing simply outstanding. Trigger bar shows evidence of significant old pitting but is completely serviceable. Bore is moderately pitted but retains significant rifling. The “one pounder”, 1.457″ cartridge coupled with its manageable 250-300 rounds per minute rate of fire was extremely effective and could perforate a 1″ iron plate at 100 yards. Should a person be able to locate or fabricate the remaining parts, with the appropriate expertise, this gun could likely be restored to an operating condition. This cataloger is not aware of any source of orig solid steel projectile ammunition nor of a belt which would accommodate it, however, this specimen in this condition provides a unique opportunity for the advanced U.S. Military and Navy ordnance collector to acquire one of the most impressive and attractive pieces of Navy ordnance ever to come to public auction. The fact that records indicate it first went to Russia, and then later was in U.S. Naval Service during the Spanish American War make this a gun of noteworthy interest. 50927-1 JWK80 (150,000-250,000) – Lot 3034

  Maxim Pom-Pom 37mm Machine Gun https://youtu.be/EG1DoHPAaRA
Forgotten Weapons
"Pom-Pom" was the name given to the 37mm Maxim gun by the Boers of South Africa, based on the gun's sound. It was a Maxim machine gun scaled up to the quite impressive 37mm caliber, intended primarily for naval use defending large vessels against small torpedo boats. This particular example is serial number 2024, made in 1889 and then sold three times before being ultimately purchased by the United States Coast Guard and installed on the USS Manning (along with a second gun, number 2026). The Manning was promptly put into military service by the Navy and steamed down to Cuba, where it participated in the first bombardment of Cuba during the Spanish-American War.

These 37mm guns could fire a wide variety of projectiles, including solid rounds which could pierce an inch (25mm) of iron armor at 100 yards and hollow rounds filled with black powder and fused to explode on impact. During World War One, they would be pushed into anti-aircraft service, with the explosive rounds being extremely effective on early aircraft (when you could get a hit, anyway).