Huh...

https://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1284-extraordinarily-rare-prototype-george-wilson-semi-auto-target-pistol-38069/

>Extraordinary pistol, hand built by George A. Wilson of Pennsylvania back in the 1960’s. Mr. Wilson, a designer for High Standard, designed & patented this pistol and was granted a patent in 1961. He had actually built SN 1 back in 1959, which he used to win an NRA tournament.

  Ah.

> have long wondered if Dan Love would ever get his passion project, the DL45 semiauto pistol, off of the ground. I saw his prototype when he publicly displayed it at the 2013 Brownells Gunsmith Conference & Job Fair., but foolishly, I didn't get any photos.

>Dan Love is best known for his firearms engraving for other gunsmiths like Hamilton Bowen. He also provided Texas Longhorn Arms with the drawings of the No. 5 grip frame that he had personally acquired from Elmer Keith.

>Love has been infatuated with George A. Wilson's prototype target pistols for decades. Back in the 1980s, he wrote the various gun magazines that had previously featured the Wilson pistol in the 1960s in hopes of tracking down the current owners. However, it was decades too late for anyone to really help. Several years ago, he even started posting to Internet gun forums in an attempt to track down the pistols. By this point, he had already begun work on his own design, but he wanted to see exactly how Wilson had configured certain parts.

>>105655

Now that you post it, I feel like an idiot. I've actually seen that vid years ago.

>By this point, he had already begun work on his own design, but he wanted to see exactly how Wilson had configured certain parts.

Ah, so it's similar, but not identical. It'd be interesting to know if he eventually got his hands on one or not.

>>105655
Yep, that's the first thing that went through my mind when I saw the OP.

>>105593
A phoenix arms hp22 was my first gun, and I still have it. About 4k rounds through it.

Honestly, if someone made a not-pot metal or retarded safeties version I'd totally buy it.
This is one of those guns that you know you shouldn't like, but somehow do. The limiting factor of it's accuracy has always been me, not the pistol. The trigger would probably be considered not great, but for me it fits my hand well and the and the take up and wall end up being nice for target shooting. I'm able to pull the trigger on the gun and have it remain completely motionless (which is more than I can say for my fucking Kahr).

One thing to watch out for is to make sure the roll pins are flush in the frame, filing them down if you need to. Especially the one just under the slide on the right side, partially covered by the grips, which will rub against the slide.

Another thing you'll need to do if you shoot it with any frequency, is to always inspect it for cracks, I hear that particularly the slide is where failures most often occur.

As far as reliability goes, my impression is that it is as reliable as the ammo you feed it. If you put in cheap 22lr, you'll get the occasional stovepipe or hangfire.
It wouldn't be something I would outright recommend for self defense, but it will always be superior to nothing.

With an empty mag extended mag and the long barrel it weighs 22.6 ounces. She may have issues pulling the slide back or cocking the hammer. ALG's extra slick oil or grease can help, but she'll still need to exert a fair bit of force as with most hammer based guns.

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can grandma cock a pocket pistol? those little fuckers tend to be stout.
larger .22lr pistols sound like the best bet, or an FN fiveseven if you can shit gold.

Why has no one ever magnumed the .25 auto? that seems like a good self defense round.

>>105625
You can't get a very big bullet in .25 ACP.

>>105627
True! You can get better boom from .22 Long Rifle than the diminutive .25 Auto.
Even the .25 Jap (6.5x50mmSemi-Rimmed Arisaka) was seen as being too light in the ass, but this round was used in early experimental assault rifles such as the Russian 1915 Fedorov Avtomat.

- 6.5×50mmSR Arisaka (center) with .303 British (left) and .30-06 (right).

>>105628
>>105625
>>105627
I wonder how well pocket .25 ACPs would handle hot-loading.

Man, I went to the south entrance to check out the noise and I swear it was a jazz trumpet I heard. Investigating further, I saw these eyes light up in the darkness, and then this dark black face. I swear it was Miles fuckin' Davis right there in the tunnel! After I shit myself, I had to didi mao the hell out of there!

  Miles Davis - In A Silent Way ( Full Album ) https://youtu.be/tSPuPYIK5-E

>>105532
That's actually really good logic.

Strategic as fuck.

>>105532

>>105532
>>105550
This. It's fucking brilliant.

Then it hit me.

I don't have a sine bar.

It took a little while but I simulated one, should be close enough for the stuff to be angled right. I'll also take into account the front and rear sight line angle in comparison to the slide top.

>>105559
>simulating a sine bar
It looks a little funky because we all have to remember that gage blocks are only precise in flatness, parallelism, and thickness. They are pretty much useless for squareness and perpendicularity, so the two pins have to ride on blocks sitting correctly, but then you have to separate the pins precisely by putting another block between them. With a 2" block separating the two pins, the error due to the block not being square should be extremely small, as it'll only be as much as the difference between the hypotenuse of a triangle with a long leg of 2" and a short leg of something like 0.008". I can live with 0.000016" error on that.

If the setup was not made like this, the error might be much greater, hence the explanation and why it's a little like an upside-down sine bar. Either way, it should work.

Using a micrometer to measure the pin diameter accurately, we can find the exact distance between the two pins, then use the aforementioned gage blocks under the pins to meet the angle of the top of the slide. We then compare the slide to another set of wrung blocks just to check, as comparisons are quite a bit better than using the little dial on the height gage.

Once I finish this I'll be able to ensure the cuts are made at the right place, right depth, and right angle so I don't end up mangling my pretty Shadow 2.

I don't mind hearing your thoughts about this to make sure I haven't forgotten anything obvious.

>>105561
Gotcha!

good digitals > good dials > vernier > cheap dials > feces > shitty digitals

fite me

>>105564
You referring to only calipers?

Because my job gave me a Mitutoyo 8" dial caliper, and I own the 8" digimatic seen earlier in the thread.

I used both the dial and digital Mitutoyo calipers daily for a while before going back to all digital, I just don't see the appeal of the dial calipers. They are also more sensitive to dust, and the "feeling" from trying to measure things with consistent pressure is much harder with the rack and pinion physical dial than a smooth digital.

Dial just doesn't feel a nice, doesn't read as quick, and doesn't really do any easy incremental measuring (if that's what you meant by comparative measurement). With no downside with digital, I can't see any reason to use a dial.

Keep in mind I'm comparing dial calipers to the Mitutoyo Digimatic and not other digital calipers, this is a very important point as I have not liked many other digital calipers.

>>105566
Digital calipers are offered in coolant-proof variants, but I stuck with the regular digimatic as I liked the buttons and feeling of it better. I find it's much easier to keep the calipers out of coolant rather than keep dials out of ambient dust and small airborne debris.

Measuring tools are obviously subjective, and I have known amazing machinists that used tools I didn't like and obviously made good parts, so it's yet another proof of the million ways to skin cats in the manufacturing industry.

As something of an aside, you see this issue in lockpicking, too.

Many, many places have laws on the books that make carrying lock picking tools illegal (often *very* illegal) if you're not licensed or actually on a job.

And most lock-picking tools are very mundane items.

In other words, yes, usage defines the category.

Carrying a screwdriver? Pretty normal. It's a screwdriver.

Using the screwdriver to bypass a lock to gain entry to a building not your own? Felony possession of lock picking tools.

Using a screwdriver to bypass a lock, stab the owner of the dwelling, and rape their dog? Well now you're in possession of a deadly weapon AND lockpicking tools. Same item, two charges. Also, you're a sick furry bastard.

Always been a fan of umbrellas, myself. They're way more multifunctional than they look, because people are so used to only seeing them used for one or two purposes. It's still a stick. Also makes you real popular with women when you're the only guy to have the foresight to have one. Remember to get one bigger than you need...

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Bit of a bitch to carry due to size/weight, but there's something to be said of the old D-cell Maglite flashlights (thinking back on it, why the fuck didn't Maglite get involved with "COPS"? It was de facto advertising in the 1990s...). Shit flashlights, but my god you wouldn't want to be hit by one of the fuckers. And even though they were aluminum, they were pretty thick and well made and could take a beating.

>>99399

Aftermarket LEDs and microcontrollers can greatly improve the utility of otherwise obsolete flashlights such as these. I retrofitted one of those big old GI angle head jobs and was rewarded with a flashlight which, while still heavy as fuck, will provide more than adequate light for like two fucking weeks straight, and which is reasonably water-resistant -- all for, like, thirty rupees. I was pleased enough with the results that I plan on doing the same to one of the smaller versions sometime soon.

>>99399
Just remember to swing it with the bell/light in your hand. If that flashlight doesn't work when the cops show up you're just swinging a club as far as they're concerned.

I bought a set of brass knuckles from therealbrassknuckles.com. From what I understand they're cast in PA so they aren't sold with novelty bullshit like belt buckle pegs. Someday I intend to use it with some green sand casting to make aluminum ones; so far my casting experiments are lacking, mostly because my foundry is improvised bullshit.

I've experimented with laser cutting acrylic ones and laminating layers. After doing some very scientific hitting-concrete-with-gloves in my opinion they shatter too easily. I'm sure there are other plastics that would work better.

If you feel like fabricobbling your own, here's a handy sizing chart you can steal: http://www.defiantcraft.com/sizing.pdf
The PDF preserves vector objects so you can import for laser cutting if that's your jam.

>>105544
Yeah. I might die. I have to spend time in both England and France before making it to Spain.

They're both shit holes right now.

>>105545
Hey good news, the Catalonian independence movement means you might get to witness a civil war too.

>>105545
>Yeah. I might die. I have to spend time in both England and France before making it to Spain.
>They're both shit holes right now.

Bitch please, you've worked in Mexico. ;)

>>105547
>Hey good news, the Catalonian independence movement means you might get to witness a civil war too.

I was there for there for VMworld EU on their national holiday thing (the catalonian one, not the spanish one). Was kinda unexpected to suddenly have 350000 people in the streets with separatist flags. Of course the "cross" their street protest/party was basically centered on the place we had to go for a party of our own. That was interesting but everyone was extremely civil.

Here in Belgistan, there would've been some troublemakers out to exploit the situation. There, no such thing as far as I could tell. Only saw two guys that I could identify as Antifa due to some symbols on T-shirts.

The funny bits:
1) They seem to think the EU will support their independence since there were EU flags in the crowd. Oh you poor naive souls.

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>>105548
>The protests & parties kinda dissolved at around 20:00. Super weird. You'd have expected a lot of people to remain in the streets even after the official protest was over, but nope. Virtually nothing left.

So genuine, authentic protesters? As in not paid or something crazy like that?

>>105548
Damn I didn't realize this was still going on.

I was in London when the London Riots broke out back in 2011. That shit was insane. The streets went absolutely bonkers and for days the only sound you could hear were those obnoxious European ambulance sirens.
I tried to stay away from the heated areas but it was still pretty sketchy. And I had no personal protection to speak of... because LONDON.

I was supposed to shoot a full auto FAL (belgian receiver, Israeli LAR kit) this weekend. Alas, it ended up becoming a bolt action .308. Gun failed to cycle, the bolt would come back about half an inch after firing. Fiddled with the gas system to no avail. My friend will need to take it somewhere to get it fixed, most likely.

On the other hand, I did get to try out a Colt Anaconda and a S&W 629 V-comp Performance Center side by side. The compensator and hogue grips made the 629 very easy to shoot. The Colt was a touch smoother all around, but the grips didn't help with the recoil.

>>105394
Well That would have been a damn fun time. Had he field stripped it recently? Gas plug might be upside down?

>>105396

He said he had properly stripped and lubed it, but I dunno. It was only his second time taking it out. As far as I know the plug was open but I don't know how much he was able to adjust the gas port. I do recall the port was sticky.

I was also there the first time he took the gun out. It has fired exactly one mag in full auto and hasn't worked since. This guy is working towards the battle rifle trifecta. He has a f/a HK91, the FAL, and a M14 on transfer.

>>105397
Aahh, to play with NFA toys let alone own them

>>102145
They are.

Then why say it's already the standard in Mexico?
.380ACP (or .380 Auto) is not .38 Super

Actually yeah, if it's scaled down it'd be kind of neat to mess with and what's the harm in another gun anyway?

I like the standard size 1911, a mini one would be adorable.

>>101621

Gun Jesus Apocrypha: The Gospel of Browning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0qe45Z8wfk

Here's your baby 1911

>>105289
>Just out of curiosity, at what distance do you generally shoot your pistols?

Using an A4/letter format target:
For relatively fast paced fire, generally around 15m.

Using the normal pistol competition target:
Pretty much exclusively 25m, slow fire.

Pic is a 25m pistol target with 100 rounds through it from an X-Five AL SO shot two handed. But it's from better days when I was a pistol junkie. It's amazing how quickly your skills disappear when you stop regularly practicing. My recent focus on rifles has really thrown a wrench in the works when it comes to my pistol skills. I doubt I'd be able to do this kind of shooting now except if I had a REALLY good day.

>>105294
Impressive at 25m, nonetheless.

I did this with my new S&W 41 at 15 yards. I still have quite a ways to go.

Idle hands are the tool of the devil...

Range is close this week & next.
My shotgun is still not delivered.

And so the mind drifts...
I want a trainer precision rifle for 50m-100m distances to complement my AI AT. Now, if I had lived in the US, I'd probably have ordered something crazy like a lefty Stiller 2500XR action, Lilja/Krieger barrel and a JAE700 chassis. Just because. That'd have cost me as much as my fucking AI AT.

Good thing (and sadly) these things are not readily on order inna Eurolandia.

So I tried to figure out what was the best way to build something worthwhile.

I actually started off with the idea of a lefty Sako Quad, because Manners makes stocks for that. But I was on the fence due to the accuracy being just shy of what I expected which is probably in part due to the quick change barrel system. But, fear not, Sako also makes the FinnFire II which is the same action without the quick change barrel system. Except both have just been discontinued in left handed variants & none are currently in the dealer network for me to snap up.

So, back to the drawing board. After lots of looking around, I found the Anschutz 64L MPR. Basically a match rifle repeater. But again, the L version has been discontinued.

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>>105326
>Range is close this week & next.

Or rather, closed.

Anyhow. Anschutz North America has partnered with Manners in the past to make tactical rimfire trainers with the 1416, but it's right handed only stocks for now. I wonder if I can convince Manners to make a mirror image.

http://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/rimfire-trainer-series.html

  Huh, didn't realize this was a thing.

>>105398

>whats the difference between a tactical boner and a strategic one?

Is this a philosophy thread? Because if so:

What does it mean when you ask your local funshop for .223 and .308, and they hand you 5.56 and 7.62?

Plate carrier is from Snake Eater Tactical. In case those people weren't try-hard enough as it was, they had to get the try hardiest sounding plate carrier possible.

http://www.snakeeatertactical.com/product/rifle-plate-carrier/

Security Contracting Service Ads of the Boners are pretty light on qualifications but...

>>105407
> Mount any MOLLE pouch with 550 cord.

If you want to go low vis why not PlateMinus that doesn't need a bunch paracords