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103368 No. 103368 ID: 220d82 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So Grumpier left me a pile of muzzle loaders - all are reproductions - some flintlock, some cap-n-ball, some Civil War, some frontiersman... I helped make some of these guns when I was a kid and shot the Hell out of them.

Trouble is I don't remember the details. FF powder for the barrel, FFF for the pan? How many grains of FF do I start with?

I've been told there's a rough formula that for a .35 caliber you start with 35 grains, for a .50 caliber, 50 grains and so on. That seems grossly too easy. I can mic out all the barrels and get exact calibers, but assume I have quite a few. Any good starting tips on what I should be buying and how much I should be loading?

Will take some pics soon, but for now, here's a generic one I stole from the Interbutts.
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>> No. 103524 ID: 3f7131
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I'm going to hijack this. Not muzzle loading, but I shot my Pietta 1860 yesterday for the first time yesterday. I'm a total n00b when it comes to black powder.

1) I cleaned up using a mix of vinegar and water (shooting Pyrodex) using an old toothbrush, cleaning rod, and a copper wire (for the nipple holes). Is there some better solution for cleaning up Pyrodex? Also, how urgent is it to neutralize the salts? I cleaned it same day but I didn't wash it at the range immediately after shooting.

2) I topped each cylinder with bore butter because I had read you need to "season" new barrels. Long-term, how much lubricant should you be shooting?

3) Hard to say, but how many shots/fowling accumulate before it begins to affect accuracy? Trying to decide if it's worth bringing a whole cleaning kit to the range.
>> No. 103569 ID: e46904
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I heard a neat trick to dial in your powder is to get a tarp and just shoot over it. Any presence of unburnt powder should indicate that you should use less and adjust from there.

I've also been using FFF powder as primer in my flintlock with less than moderate success. Would recommend FFFF to prime the pan
>> No. 103574 ID: df12a0
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What is meant by a "muzzle-loading bolt action?"
>> No. 103578 ID: 72cb51
They are also called "in-line muzzle-loaders" where the bolt's firing pin strikes the percussion cap you place over the nipple when you open the bolt.
How To Load & Fire a Bolt Action Muzzleloader Rifle - Muzzle-Loaders.com https://youtu.be/gKlyvTnhgGk
>> No. 103602 ID: 22c903
yo DAWG I herd you like bein a Fudd while you Fudd.

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103525 No. 103525 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
At Ares, Eugene Stoner worked on the FARC-3 rifle. Clearly has some influences of the AR-18 and the Stoner 63, but I can't find much about it. Anyone have any good sources or pictures?
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>> No. 103527 ID: 72cb51
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FARC-EP is Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia—People's Army.
And they seem to favor Kalashnikovs and Galils.
>> No. 103528 ID: 72cb51
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Being such fans of drug smuggling, you would think they'd also be fans of Stoner's rifles.
>> No. 103529 ID: 72cb51
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I spoke too soon.
>> No. 103530 ID: 9dcda2
My source: http://weaponsman.com/?p=6709

> Two of the most interesting articles cover guns that never caught on, the FN CAL, and the even more exotic, FARC-3.

> FARC-3 1986The FARC-3 was the “assault rifle of tomorrow” in 1986, and we guess it still is. The resemblance to the AR-18 and Stoner 63 is come by honestly enough, for the FARC was also a Gene Stoner design. Funded by DARPA and built by the Ohio company ARES, the FARC acronym stood for Future Assault Rifle Concept, and the gun used an AK-ish operating system, with striker rather than hammer fire, and then-novel plastic magazines. The article predicted that the idea of plastic magazines, at least, was here to stay.
>> No. 103534 ID: 813f6b
>My source

Yeah, reverse image search got me that much. But other than that? Very little.
Which is odd. It looks like an interesting rifle that's a significant departure from the AR15, AR18 or Stoner 63.

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103499 No. 103499 ID: eb2308 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
One of these glorious motherfuckers is sitting on my bed waiting to be cleaned right now.

don't know what it is?

Get $450.

Now imagine that it was an AK "pistol" chambered in 9mm, taking beretta 92 magazines, with an optional glawk adapter.

Now imagine that it show extremely well, because 9mm doesn't have recoil in a gun this heavy, and didn't give two shits what you try to feed it because it's... still an AK at heart.

If you have an erection-and you should-go buy one.

If you don't, you have ED. Go buy Viagra, then buy one.
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>> No. 103508 ID: 19518e
I wish 7.62x25 firearms were more prevalent, or even in current production for stuff like PCCs and maybe the odd bolt action for shits and giggles. It's such a forgotten gem of a caliber, especially with the surplus that's still relatively available.

I am also a little leery of Chiappa. I have never seen one gun made by them that didn't feel like a cheap pellet gun that shot real ammo.
>> No. 103509 ID: fb893e
I think it's a super fun concept, but also super fucking ugly. I'd love to see one SBR'd and with chopped down Krinkov furniture...but at that point, you're probably spending MP5-clone money.

The replaceable magwell is a cool idea, though. I'd love to see people 3D print new magwells for all sorts of guns - M&Ps, CZs, various H&Ks, etc.
>> No. 103510 ID: eb2308
This doesn't. I normally wouldn't bother with them, butI had the chance to fuck with a friends pak-9 beforeI bought mine.

I feels like what it is-and AK with the stock cut off and a tiny barrel so the ATF doesn't get scared.

It's not even a changeable magwell. There's a plastic adapter over a standard AK magwell. Remove it and I can lock my AK mags in just fine, though it won't feed for obvious reasons.

Plus side, you actually could 3D print new adapters if you wanted, they just pop on and off when you want to switch from beretta to glock and back.
>> No. 103518 ID: fb893e
>It's not even a changeable magwell. There's a plastic adapter over a standard AK magwell. Remove it and I can lock my AK mags in just fine, though it won't feed for obvious reasons.

>Plus side, you actually could 3D print new adapters if you wanted, they just pop on and off when you want to switch from beretta to glock and back.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I heard about the magwells being held in by a standard AK mag release. Very clever. It's a pity it's hard to swap barrels on AKs, otherwise you could have a blast with caliber swaps on these things.
>> No. 103533 ID: 044fd0
Kind of want...

I wonder how difficult it would be to swap out the furniture for something more classic looking. A threaded muzzle would be nice too.

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103476 No. 103476 ID: 3f5192 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Picked up a Chapuis double barrel rifle as part of an estate sale and I'm trying to get some more info about it and maybe a value.

My research lead me to find the year it was made and a few other minor details, but I'm looking for more answers. I came across this article in an old magazine discussing what appears to be the exact model. The problem is it's all in french...

I realize I'm probably asking a lot here, but is anyone here capable of translating this for me? I scanned it as best as I could.
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>> No. 103498 ID: 62d0fe
Ah, whoops.

I really haven't even seen one before, so I didn't know what to make of it. Thanks for the correction.
>> No. 103504 ID: 3f5192
I'll keep an eye out. Thanks again.

>current production
This one was made in 1980.

It has side plates and a signature under the barrels.
>> No. 103511 ID: 813f6b
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>Thanks for the correction.

Well, I'm no expert. Only way to know for sure is asking Chapuis.

>This one was made in 1980.

Just email Chapuis? Or shoot me the serial and some detail pictures at godverdomme@operatorchan.org and I'll ask for you on frog.
>> No. 103514 ID: 952452

>the Double Express Chapuis is today, in fact, one of the most popular rifles of its class in the world.
>in fact, one of the most popular rifles of its class in the world.
>one of the most popular
>in fact

>> No. 103517 ID: 19518e
Hey I'm just translating.

... Damn "most popular" is really more like "best selling". I guess it's not a huge difference but I am aiming for accuracy.

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So, how 'bout that MOAB?
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>> No. 103496 ID: 5f0404
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The US's Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) bomb does not cost $314 million, or $16 million, but $170,000 a unit, the US Air Force told Business Insider on Friday. The $170,000 figure makes sense considering a general purpose 1,000-pound MK-83 costs about $12,000. The MOAB simply features more high explosives and larger fins to direct the GPS-guided munition. http://www.businessinsider.com/real-cost-of-moab-mother-of-all-bombs-170-000-2017-4
>> No. 103497 ID: 5f0404
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The basic operational concept bears some similarity to the BLU-82 Daisy Cutter, which was used to clear heavily wooded areas in the Vietnam War and in Iraq to clear mines and later as a psychological weapon against the Iraqi military. After the psychological impact of the BLU-82 on enemy soldiers was witnessed, and no BLU-82 weapons remained, the MOAB was developed partly to continue the ability to intimidate Iraqi soldiers. Pentagon officials had suggested their intention to use MOAB as an anti-personnel weapon, as part of the "shock and awe" strategy integral to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system. However, multiple strikes with lower yield ordnance may be more effective and can be delivered by fighter/bombers such as the F-16 with greater stand-off capability than the C-130 and C-17. However, these strikes would not have the ability to cave terrain such as the tunnel complexes MOAB was used against during the 13 April 2017, strike. High altitude carpet-bombing with much smaller 230-to-910-kilogram (500 to 2,000 lb) bombs delivered via heavy bombers such as the B-52, B-2, or the B-1 is also highly effective at covering large areas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast
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When I first heard that the MOAB was used against caves in Afghanistan, I thought that this might be misreported as the MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator), a smaller but heavier 30,000-pound "bunker buster" bomb, designed for destroying deep underground targets.
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Plus, the MOP can be dropped by actual bombers such as the B-2 or B-52.
- A B-52 releases a test version of the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) during a test of the weapon over White Sands Missile Range, N.M. in 2009.
>> No. 103506 ID: 19518e
>MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator)
There's a joke about your mom's dildo in there somewhere, but it's just not the same without NSWG doing it.

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103357 No. 103357 ID: efeb68 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
After that CZ deal fell apart I was a little dissuaded from buying firearms for awhile. I have around $400 that I can spend, what in your opinion would be the best deal I could get? Only stipulation is that it needs to be NYS compliant, and big enough for my meaty hands
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>> No. 103471 ID: 9dcda2
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> Or you could just learn to shoot your gun.

I dunno. I shot a Taurus .22LR revolver that had a trigger like weaponized arthritis. That goes a bit beyond "Git gud".
>> No. 103473 ID: e0a98d
since you're so capacity limited anyways, I recommend trying to find a s&w model 39-2 (the dash 2 versions will feed hp, I'm told). right around your price range, decent quality, trigger, function, ect. the design has some interesting history as well, first 9mm s&w made, as well as the first 9mm adopted by the seals, to my knowledge.
>> No. 103474 ID: 0f04c4
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I second any and all Smith and Wesson 2nd and 3rd generation suggestions. I was bequeathed a late/transitional model 659 years ago that I take out any time a coworker or one of my wife's friends wants to learn to shoot pistols. They're plenty accurate and reliable, and they should be relatively easy to find in your budget. There's also a surplus of 10 round mags for them floating around from the dark-age-ban-years.
>> No. 103484 ID: 0f04c4
What about some Korean love?
>> No. 103485 ID: 0f04c4
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DP51? Last I knew these were sub $300. Nutnfancy liked his. I like mine. The "triple action" is pretty neato.

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102601 No. 102601 ID: eada5d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I'm going to order an engraved back plate for my Glock 42 and Im looking for lulzy stencils to use. I tried posting on /k/ but apparently this simple request was infinitely too difficult for the kids to handle.

If anyone has anything decent, feel free to post up. You'd definitely be helping me out.

As always, pic related.
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>> No. 102623 ID: 19518e
Fuck me I want that on my Glock's backplate now.
>> No. 102632 ID: fb893e
That's perfect.
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At least 100 hours in gimp

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103178 No. 103178 ID: 220d82 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
This is almost every gun I've ever sold in my whole life. Maybe 3 or 4 I've missed.

Post your past arms!
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>> No. 103379 ID: f2172d
Email sent
>> No. 103380 ID: 13f512

For chat, there's IRC, either #/k/ or (lol) #operatorchan, there's also a Discord server if that floats your boat:


Otherwise, email. Do you have an opchan email address?
>> No. 103457 ID: 220d82

I think I did have an opchan email address at some point. No idea what my password would be any more, or exactly what the address would be. Probably GOTB or goatbee@
>> No. 103458 ID: c094ca

I'll check tonight and let you know
>> No. 103460 ID: 13f512

Looks like you don't

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103415 No. 103415 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Anyone have experience with Choate side folding stocks?

I bought one for my 870 but can't get it to fit, seems to overlap with the trigger guard. I'm wondering if it's incompatible with my model, or if I was shipped the wrong stock.
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>> No. 103446 ID: b70387
Potentially dumb question, but will it attach and line up right if you take out the trigger assembly?
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I think what you have there is a 20 gauge stock since in >>103440 it looks a LOT smaller than the original.

Here, while jerking off ahem, looking at what's out there for the 870, I came across this. Look at the size difference between the 20ga receiver and the 12 ga stock.
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Looks like the triggerguard is the issue. I'm going to email choate and see what the next step is
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  Came across this because I've bought stuff from DAA before. Seems pretty neat, considering that it's a free app. Thought I'd share.

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