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99312 No. 99312 ID: 81de5d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Lately I've wanted one of these brass "bottle openers" Are they a gimmick tool or something that could come in handy? I'd carry it in my back pocket.
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>> No. 99388 ID: 7e7763
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In Canada one must take care that "bottle openers" made of metal don't have finger holes or else they are defined as "brass knuckles" under the law. This would define the item as a prohibited weapon even if there's a non-weapon reason to carry it.

Plastic knuckles are OK to own but not to carry concealed, and I'd say the same applies to those plastic "stinger" things because there's no arguable use other than a weapon.

As with every other country a sturdy pen won't get a second look and will work as a weapon in a pinch.

Pic related "wrench" is fine. I've tested it and it does work on a bicycle. It also looks like it could be a bottle opener but it's the wrong size. I've passed security checkpoints with it, though I did get a funny look. I have it on good authority that one of these will seriously fuck up a human being.
>> No. 99389 ID: 7e7763
>Bat Guano is still machineposting
Warms my heart.
>> No. 99391 ID: 959636
As something of an aside, you see this issue in lockpicking, too.

Many, many places have laws on the books that make carrying lock picking tools illegal (often *very* illegal) if you're not licensed or actually on a job.

And most lock-picking tools are very mundane items.

In other words, yes, usage defines the category.

Carrying a screwdriver? Pretty normal. It's a screwdriver.

Using the screwdriver to bypass a lock to gain entry to a building not your own? Felony possession of lock picking tools.

Using a screwdriver to bypass a lock, stab the owner of the dwelling, and rape their dog? Well now you're in possession of a deadly weapon AND lockpicking tools. Same item, two charges. Also, you're a sick furry bastard.

Always been a fan of umbrellas, myself. They're way more multifunctional than they look, because people are so used to only seeing them used for one or two purposes. It's still a stick. Also makes you real popular with women when you're the only guy to have the foresight to have one. Remember to get one bigger than you need...
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>> No. 99399 ID: e517e3
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Bit of a bitch to carry due to size/weight, but there's something to be said of the old D-cell Maglite flashlights (thinking back on it, why the fuck didn't Maglite get involved with "COPS"? It was de facto advertising in the 1990s...). Shit flashlights, but my god you wouldn't want to be hit by one of the fuckers. And even though they were aluminum, they were pretty thick and well made and could take a beating.
>> No. 99400 ID: f87148

Aftermarket LEDs and microcontrollers can greatly improve the utility of otherwise obsolete flashlights such as these. I retrofitted one of those big old GI angle head jobs and was rewarded with a flashlight which, while still heavy as fuck, will provide more than adequate light for like two fucking weeks straight, and which is reasonably water-resistant -- all for, like, thirty rupees. I was pleased enough with the results that I plan on doing the same to one of the smaller versions sometime soon.

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99341 No. 99341 ID: 54180e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
S&W Target Master .38, got it for 550$. Did I do good?
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>> No. 99352 ID: fb893e
What happened to bluing on the barrel? If it's as bad as it looks, you overpaid.
>> No. 99375 ID: 54180e
I really dont know anything super specific about it, just that it was a sweet shooter (got to try before I buy). I could always email smith and ask them to look up the SN.
Bluing is stripped just in those two spots, couldn't say what happened to it.
>> No. 99376 ID: 54180e
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Think I just found it, model 14-3
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little more detailed photos... some ribbing along the top strap and barrel.
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Looks like the hammer was case hardened? or just tarnished? Its a 3 screw revolver.

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99368 No. 99368 ID: 86d09e hide watch quickreply [Reply]

>> No. 99373 ID: 86d09e
  So jealous of that gun store...

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99332 No. 99332 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Went to the shooting range for the first time in about six months. Was terrible.

I need to get something cheaper to shoot. What's the cheapest decent .22 handgun on the CA registry? My Spacegat has gotten too expensive to practice with regularly and I'm sitting on around 4k rounds of LR
>> No. 99333 ID: f87148

Sort by price low-to-high, winnow out anything not Kalifornistan-legal, sift through a few reviews of those you find most appealing, shake well, and serve chilled.
>> No. 99334 ID: 19518e
Not sure what the CA-legal firearms are but I have to recommend the 22/45.


It's a little bit more expensive than the chiappa/taurus/rossi/jimenez/rhom lineup but it'll last forever, it's reliable as fuck, and very accurate. Some will scare you off with "it's hard to take apart/put back together" but if you can type that post you're more than capable of youtube+bit of figuring about and gettin' 'er done.
>> No. 99335 ID: 8ae0c8
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Ruger Single-Six is a great .22 single-action revolver. Little bit more expensive than the $200 Heritage Rough Rider, but that machined (stainless or blued) frame of the Ruger is worth the extra expense.
>> No. 99336 ID: 8ae0c8
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Plenty of other .22 revolvers to choose from.
Smith & Wesson K-22 Masterpiece to cheap Rossi Plinkers.

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99128 No. 99128 ID: dea436 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Why isn't this a more popular, readily available round? I've been thinking of pic related for home defense, but I'd have to handload all my ammo. Living in commiefornia, they may try to ban that next (they try to monitor how much ammo we have).

.44 special is comparable to .45 auto, I'd wager it's a reliable man-stopper; is this just because everyone uses semi-auto handguns now? And would .44 revolvers and the ammo they fire become more widespread in commiefornia after all the semi-autos fall off the roster or can I expect that our ammo shelves in stores will just be mostly empty?
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>> No. 99233 ID: 1962bd
Helps her foot the recoil.
>> No. 99238 ID: f87148

You never go ass-to-mouth, dude!
>> No. 99253 ID: 82a3e8
Bruh, You are missing out if you havent put tongue to a fine lady's ruby starfish.

Also you have not lived if you havent had a lady tongue punch your fart box.
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98915 No. 98915 ID: 1e7323 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I swung by the Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History. Here is a photo from the Hall of Pacific Cultures of the weapons used by the lowland head hunters of New Guinea.

The hoop device is basically a human control pole. This is the description behind it:
"'Man-catcher' of bamboo; used in head hunting raids to secure captives for cannibalistic ceremonies (Papuan Gulf)"
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>> No. 98925 ID: 510456
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Crazy stuff can pop up in Papua, New Guinea.
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So keep your Enfield handy.
- Australian trooper with his SMLE rests at a Japanese road guide post, New Guinea.
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>Crazy stuff can pop up in Papua, New Guinea.

Like TSE and, almost overnight in evolutionary terms, an adaptation rendering its possessors basically immune to the causative prions.
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Quite interesting- but if we're talking about Pacific islander weaponry, the shark-toothed clubs/lacerators of Hawaiian warriors is about the most distinctive. These were made by fastening shark teeth into grooves along the sides, by means of tying them in place with cordage. I believe the cutting function was achieved through a similar technique as the obsidian bladed macuahuitl of Mesoamerica- the warrior swings his weapon into the target's flesh with most of the cutting edge further than the impact point, and then he pulls the weapon back towards himself, effectively sawing through the target. As such these kinds of weapons can't quite be likened to a sword, and I'd classify them as lacerator clubs (the flat end can be used as a club, of course). They made various kinds of weapons of this sort for different fighting purposes.

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98816 No. 98816 ID: 3b3ce1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
I finally found something I envy about Canadians: they have cheap, easy access to short barrel shotguns. I have a sudden, inexplicable urge for a 20 gauge O/U with a 12" barrel, stock intact, because reasons. What NFA gun or accessory do you want, OPchan? And have any of you gone through all the paperwork and bureaucracy to get one?
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>> No. 99188 ID: 19518e
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Har ye goo
>> No. 99189 ID: 9dcda2
Nice dude!
>> No. 99194 ID: 0febe3
Thanks. I wanted to show my friend who's used to bird guns the possibilities of a short barrel.
>> No. 99196 ID: 19518e
I filmed a lot that day, I can probably make another webm or two.

8.5" is surprisingly fun at skeet. It's a lot more "snap shooting" obviously, you have to be a bit quicker and be less traditional "track, lead, fire, follow through" skeet shooting methods. More "see skeet emerge, get gun aimed right before the skeet as fast as possible, shoot".

For actual hunting, it would be okay for smaller birds but the spread is pretty big and the noise of the blast would make hunting either ear-rape or hard to do because earpro. If you have really good electronic muffs, it should be fine but I've tried a few electronic muffs and my ears were always better than the muffs were, even if the muffs could "magnify" sounds, it wasn't as clear and locating the sound was harder.
>> No. 99232 ID: 09412f
What I plan on legally buying/building:
Suppressors, especially one for my 700 AAC-SD and USP .45 Tactical.
SBRed Krink.
SBRed HK 94 copy.
Armstech .22 HDMS copy.
870 SBS.

What I would like to buy:
M16A1 (with all sorts of uppers)

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99147 No. 99147 ID: 8dff99 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo. I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your fucking life to a hellish end. I’ll put you in so much fucking pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a fuck how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many fucking guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll fucking show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a fucking heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my fucking car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great fuckng length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a
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Welcome to OpChan. You must be new here.

Please, tell us a little something about yourself.
>> No. 99150 ID: 8effed
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>gorilla warfare
I guess that's part of the joke.
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Always has been
>> No. 99223 ID: 938a21
Would /t/ be the best spot for this?
>> No. 99227 ID: 86bd72
The BEST spot would be the rubbish bin.

But /t/ would be more suitable than here.

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98952 No. 98952 ID: f13f5f hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What firearms were available back then for civilians? What was considered affordable for a middle class person? What firearms were considered cheap and expensive? What was being imported?

What firearms were NOT available back then, besides ones that weren't invented yet? Were there many Mosins and SKS rifles available to civilians?

How prohibitive were the NFA tax stamps?

Besides the ones from WW1 & 2, what full/semi-automatic long guns were around on the civilian market? Were there semi-auto or even select-fire M14s being sold to civilians? What about people making Garand to BM59 conversions, or making them take BAR magazines?

...If you had to build a paramilitary force using only what was legal to a civilian before 1965, what would you arm them with?
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>> No. 99004 ID: f13f5f
Given that there was an ad for an MP44 for like $50 in a gun rag from the 50s, I assume the $200 tax was not as absurdly expensive 30 years later.

How common were battle rifles in America back then? Tanker Garands/BM59s, FN FALs, G3s and CETME rifles?
>> No. 99005 ID: d4c8ee
I'd hazard "probably not too common" considering they would have been standard issue rifles at the time.
>> No. 99050 ID: b93a55
As per Ian, G3's were first imported as "G3's" in the early 60's, later redesigned (lower and trigger pack) later on after GCA to HK41 and then 91.
Civvie G3's from HK may actually predate the first for civilian manufacture M-14's

Any FAL at that time would be a FN, no CETME's or BM59's until they were removed from primary service with their respective nations
>> No. 99061 ID: 7c3c05
This. The M1 Carbine was the Evil Black Rifle of the 1950s-60s, for American civilians, anyway. Just as with AR15s, there were lots of companies, some big, some small, making Carbine clones of quality varying from excellent to "vaguely gun-shaped object."

Back when commercial repro M1 Carbines were inexpensive, and a few of them were decent quality, and surplus mags and ammo were plentiful and cheap... and as an added bonus, once upon a time, back before 1980 or so, every other vendor at gun shows was selling the full auto conversion parts. Not that I'd know anything about that, of course.
>> No. 99202 ID: a63d08
The tax stamp also cost $200 back then. They never adjusted it for inflation so nfa stuff is actually cheaper now.

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98107 No. 98107 ID: b89631 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
These are cute rifles that don't get enough attention, which is a shame. Comparing them to the AR platform, they have a few advantages and disadvantages:

+ Folding stock
This one is personally a huge favorite over the AR platform. Though the stock folding doesn't make the 550 short enough to really have a difference, shorter variants like the 553 really benefit from it, and even the 550 stows that much easier. The stock is pretty confortable, which is less common for a folder, and easily locks into place, and the action is perfectly designed to allow firing while folded. Compared to an AK triange or underfolder, its light years ahead, but to a 10X series polymer underfolder, i imagine its similar. Either way, its my first positive interaction with a folding stock, which I'm happy with.

+ Adjustable gas system
This is pretty basic, but unlike an AR, sigs have a key at the front of their gas system so you can flip from standard to "balls cold/wasn't issued cleaning kit" setting. Being into milsurp, I really like adjustable gas systems, as a lot of eary self-loaders tend to be finicky (SVT, G43) or very overgassed for modern ammo (M1, AG42(ymmv)) or even period ammo (SVT, G43, G43, G43), necessitating an aftermarket drop in for the garand/g43, but working fine for the fn49, svt, rasheed, etc. Honestly, its not a terribly useful feature with the consistency in .223 pressure, and since its 2 setting, you couldn't say, turn down the standard pressure for running a can, without drilling a third hole, but you could conceivably turn the gassing up for running tulammo (why would you buy a fucking 4k msrp rifle to run the shittiest fucking shit ammo???) or perhaps subsonic ammo but I haven't tried that. Still, a nice-to-have, and who knows, in 50-100 years .223 may be loaded significantly hotter like how wwii calibers are today.

Editors note: Someone with a 556 (not real Sig) has found need for gas system adjustment here http://www.sigarms556.com/threads/my-sig-556-is-denting-almost-a-cutting-every-case.12615/page-2

+ Integral bipod
Wow this thing is handy. AR bipods as far as I've seen have been ugly and ruin your ability to comfortably hold the rifle when folded as they stick out far below the rifle. The 550 bipod feels a natural evolution of the ZFK55 bipod. Its slender, and folds well and out of the way by the handguard. While holding the handguard, the bipod does not inhibit your grip. It easily folds down for use, and unlike the AR bipods Ive seen, is mounted on a spindle, allowing you to plop the rifle down on an uneven surface and still get the sights straight without adjustment. I love it and, as a primarily prone shooter, would buy this rifle just for this feature being done right.

+ Trigger and safety
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>> No. 98585 ID: 86d09e

More or less just confirming what you said, since some people might've read it as pure praise. :)

That said, if you're a perfectionist, the Sig 55X family is not for you. While the workmanship and tolerances are great on the important parts, the finish isn't all that beautiful and the design is that of a war rifle, not a safe queen.
>> No. 98587 ID: 98c1a2
Aight yeah it really reads like praise. Let me clarify further.

>those tolerances
Are excessive. Even in the closest running fits listed in the Machinery's Handbook, +/-0.0001" to +/-0.0002 is kinda just mental and there would be no operating difference if the tolerance was +/-0.001", or five to ten times more slack. The holes that these parts go into are 0.005" over the piston/bolt body diameter, and having those +0.002"/-0.000 (unilateral) would prevent any harmful tolerance stacking and maintain part clearance for the close running fit.

A human hair is 0.003" thick on average. The tolerance range for those parts was in the order of the thickness of a human hair spliced TWENTY TIMES IN THICKNESS. Stop the madness. A rifle made with tolerances ten times more loose would operate exactly the same; the difference in the parts on our everyday scale is just too small to change anything. The headspace range for 5.56x45 is (IIRC) around 0.003", so even with looser tolerances, you could probably safely exchange bolts between rifles with no real difference.

You might say "but CNC machines these days have no trouble being that accurate" and I'll reply that even with the highest quality and most accurate CNCs, that isn't so simple for mass production (the machine is fine, but the tool wears, the machine warms up/cools down, tool deflection factors between roughing, finishing, etc). To get parts that consistent all the time all day every day, you're going to need to have more machining operations that take time and money, and you're going to be replacing cutting tip inserts (each over 15 bucks each, it adds up) very often, better measuring equipment, and more qualified personnel.

Knowing how much precision in the manufacturing is required to make something good is a complicated thing, and often marks the line between a good engineer and a lazy one. A lazy one throws ridiculous tolerances around because he can't or won't be bothered to figure out how much is really needed.

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Thanks for posting those numbers, really interesting to see.

BTW, anyone here know how many mags Swiss soldiers get issued? During service, not take home I mean. The size of the two mag pouches makes me think 5?
>> No. 98955 ID: 818111

Regarding tolerances, "this".

Had a few circumstances where the "+/- .005"" tolerance bit people in the ass, when the thing they had to fit was made with "sane" tolerances for the application.
>> No. 99063 ID: ee4984
According to someone who spends many times in Schwitzerlande, they has 5 Mags.

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