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97931 No. 97931 ID: 798a48 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Well, the Chief's Special is going into the safe for the foreseeable future. After renewing my range membership and seeing that most of their defensive handgun classes didn't allow IWB holsters, I had some thoughts about draw/presentation, and maybe getting a hammerless or shrouded J-frame that was still full steel.

But after thinking about how much I liked my P238 when I still had it, I ended up buying a P938 with a date of manufacture from last month, because I wanted a little more capacity and a bigger caliber than 380.

At this point I'm not sure whether to stick with pocket carry i.e. DeSantis Nemesis, or if I should look into other options. I was recommended Alien Gear for kydex options at the shop I purchased from.
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>> No. 98761 ID: f04314
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Specifications: Beretta Pico

Caliber: .380 ACP (barrel swap to run .32 ACP)
Capacity: 6+1
Barrel Length: 2.7″
Overall Length: 5.1″
Height: 3.94″
Width: 0.725″ (18mm)
Weight: 11.5 oz with unloaded magazine
Sights: 3-Dot
Trigger: Double Action Only (DAO). 12.25 lbs as tested
MSRP: $398 (I have seen retailers list it for as low as $325 thus far) http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/11/jeremy-s/gun-review-beretta-pico/
>> No. 98762 ID: f04314
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Hitting distributor shelves now is the slimmest .380 ACP pistol on the market, the Beretta Pico. At its widest point — across the ambi mag release paddle — my caliper pegs it at 18.5mm (0.728″), while the rest of the lilliputian pocket gun comes in at or under 18mm. Despite the tiny dimensions and the light 11.5 oz weight, which includes an empty magazine, the Pico is rated for +P ammo just like its older and slight larger 9mm brother, the Nano. Of course, making the smallest pistol out there can require compromises, and my Pico did experience some growing pains…
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Ratings (Out of Five Stars):

Accuracy: * * *
A bit better than average for me from a rest, but a bit worse than average on the range.

Ergonomics: * * *
With any micro pistol there are going to be concessions here. The Pico excels in concealability and carry ergonomics — rounded corners, nothing poky or rough — but is hurt by the difficult-to-rack slide with little gripping assistance and the short trigger reach.

Reliability: * * *
I’m confident that the pistol will continue to run with 100% reliability for me more or less indefinitely now that the “extra” recoil spring has been removed. Of course, it didn’t run out of the box or as designed. An “average” rating may seem generous, but compared to other mouse guns I actually feel quite solid on the Pico’s ability here.

Trigger: * *
Not good.

Customize This: * * * * *
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>> No. 98764 ID: f04314
  Gun Review: Beretta Pico
Published on Nov 4, 2014 https://youtu.be/7GRutRlbTW4
Tabletop & Shooting Review of Beretta's new micro compact pocket pistol mouse gun, the Pico! Chambered in .380 ACP or, with just a barrel swap, .32 ACP. Plus a bit of comparison to the Nano and the Taurus TCP.
>> No. 98765 ID: f04314
  Beretta Pico - hickok45 https://youtu.be/-XjYtISS08U


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98483 No. 98483 ID: dda126 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I wanna go Truglo TFX om my G19 and G26. I've never dicked around with the stock sights before. What do I need to know to not fudd this up? Is there a better/cheaper option?
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>> No. 98496 ID: bec165
A consistent draw / press out trumps having a giant dot (that will often obscure distant targets). The fastest shooters in the world usually use all black sights.


These are what I use on my Glock.

>The front sight features the same slope angle as the rear sight making for a crisp tip to focus on during combat engagements.

>The antiglare serrated front makes sight acquisition fast and clear when shooting in natural or artificial light.

>The .215 tall front and rear sight allow the shooter to engage targets from 0-100 meters without changing the point of aim. Exactly what is needed when shooting in high threat situations under stress. Combat shooting requires excellent shot placement, not complex mathematical problems of holds or lollypoping.

>At .125 wide the front post is super fast to find during combat shooting and only covers a minimal amount of the target when shooting at range making it easy to find center and guarantee good shot placement even at extreme ranges!

>Our .60 Tritium filled vial is perfectly positioned as high up on the front post as possible providing a great reference point during low light conditions.
>> No. 98519 ID: dda126
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come on guys, pls more bright sights suggestions!
>> No. 98520 ID: 012a6b
What do you want us to say?fiber can fall out and gets dirty and dull with use.
>> No. 98521 ID: 9dcda2
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>>98519
I go with the Trijicon standard 3-dot sights, all green.

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL01

I prefer the straight rear sights, ones where you can rack the gun on your belt or boot if needed.

Meprolight also makes pretty decent sights. I've used them on other people's guns with good results.

http://www.meprolight.com/default.asp?catid={D57DEDF9-511E-4B43-82B8-DBBE46ED873F}&details_type=1&itemid={AC571E14-55D2-4CD5-A4DE-C9D549B220F5}

I don't really care for fibre optics, stacked 8's, Big Dot sights or any of the others.
>> No. 98754 ID: a615a8
What I use on my Glock 17:

stock rear sight with white outline

front sight turned around backwards and painted fluorescent orange

Seriously. It works better in more lighting conditions than you'd think. It used to be nearly standard on duty revolvers--back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and fullsize 4" revolvers in .357 Mag were cop guns and not curosities--and it's both cheap and decent.


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98552 No. 98552 ID: 5a0b76 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I'm packing up from California because I have had enough of this state.

My family and I are gona be taking a break from normal respectable living and traveling in an RV across the country while we visit far flung friends and family.
I need to know what kinda carrying restrictions I'm gona face on the road. I only plan to pack a .22lr rifle, as it is all I own, but may have a pistol of some variety pressed upon me by my overly concerned farther. I don't have a CC if that makes much deference.

So traveling while armed general thread. Tips or advice to keep my firearms secure as well as staying out of trouble with the law should I get pulled over for any reason. If mods want to move this to /t/ feel free to.
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>> No. 98577 ID: c1c101
For the most part, without a valid CCW, you will not be legal to have a loaded firearm, especially a loaded handgun, on your person or within your reach (basically within the passenger compartment) anywhere you go. For the most part. Definitely supply us with your route, though, to get the most accurate and complete answers.
>> No. 98584 ID: 5a0b76
The current route is gona be a detour through Nevada and Arizona over to New Mexico to visit family. Maybe even all the way to TX for more family visiting, then back tracking and going through Oregon up into WA and fight the good fight of making a free-er Cascadia

There MAY be more traveling after that but we gotta see how other things work out

From what I've read I should be gtg if I keep my rifle unloaded in the back of the RV with the ammo in a separate storage box.
>> No. 98611 ID: 86ccb5
Last I looked it up for CA, NM, AZ, and TX, you're supposed to notify local law enforcement such as sheriff that you are moving guns through the area, even as a private citizen simply on vacation. However, nobody does that and its unenforceable by any agency.

So, if you follow the letter of the law under CA rule, they're nowhere near your person, unloaded, locked in a compartment other than the glove box or center console, and ammo is locked separate from the guns, you probably won't run into any trouble. However, if you're not a dingus, you won't (a.) get pulled over or (b.) give reason for the cop to search your RV and find guns you [probably] shouldn't be transporting across state lines. Use your noggin, be a prudent and responsible person, and you won't have any problems.

RVs are common burglary sites because when people are away from them, its to fight off cabin fever and they're out for a few hours. Its why I'd recommend a locked compartment, bolted permanently out of sight to the structure of the RV. Just how many guns do you plan on taking with you?

Since its CA, you might consider selling some at the CA premium prices, and buying them new later when you settle at a lower price than your used guns. (unless you have common on-roster shit)
>> No. 98622 ID: 460569
Friendly reminder that when Trump wins, he plans to make CCW universal across all states.
>> No. 98728 ID: 6e521e
>>98622
Not without moving legislation through Congress, obtaining a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.


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98629 No. 98629 ID: 8a98b2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Applicability of the ITAR Registration Requirement to Firearms Manufacturers and Gunsmiths

I'm posting this in /k/ because it's important, feel free to move it if necessary.
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>> No. 98700 ID: 30f399
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>>98689
Do you ever see these Gasser revolvers in Austria?
Many were made in Vienna.
- Austrian Rast & Gasser pattern 1898 8mm Gasser revolver.
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>> No. 98702 ID: 30f399
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Belgian Gasser, J. Warnant 11.25mm DA revolver.
>> No. 98703 ID: dda126
>>98700
No. Most of that shit was seized by the allies. I'd rather have the Smith & Wesson Model 3 anyway. You can peruse what's on the market and for how much it goes here:

http://www.egun.de/market/index.php
>> No. 98723 ID: dda126
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>>98685
Meanwhile Germans can have the best AR15 for 1k€:

http://www.rothe-waffen.de/shop/langwaffen/details/windham_armory_ar15_1675.html

That's what I would buy if I could ;_;

This is now a Windham Weaponry thread!


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98613 No. 98613 ID: dda126 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
https://www.bt-ag.ch/shop/deu/bt-usw/bt-universal-service-weapon--usw-kal-9-x-19-mm-bt-430002
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>> No. 98659 ID: 30f399
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>> No. 98660 ID: 30f399
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>> No. 98661 ID: 30f399
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Francotte style safety
>> No. 98671 ID: dda126
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>>98646
>Yeah, the cops have a bad enough reputation as it is with peppering the place with poorly-aimed fire that you don't want to give them an indescriminate bullet-sprayer like that.

Yeah, istead of

>more and better training
>higher requirements to qualify
>draconic prosecution of abuse
>discontinuation of police as protected class

we should just try to control the damage by giving them less then optimal weapons.

I would totally be OK with the standard cop's gun being an AK.


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98588 No. 98588 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
http://www.nramuseum.org/

If you guys are ever in the area around Dulles airport in VA, the NRA Firearms Museum is pretty cool. They don't do much in regard to telling you the story behind items, but it's cool to see Gyrojets, Dardics, and M3 Grease guns in person. (The M3 is LARGE.)

One case has the .276 Garand and Pederson rifles just chillin. They have computers around the museum with short descriptions of what each gun is.

http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/world-war-i-and-firearms-innovation/case-36-great-inventors/us-springfield-t3e2-semi-automatic-rifle.aspx
> This forerunner of the M1 rifle was developed by John Garand and produced at Springfield Armory.

http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/world-war-i-and-firearms-innovation/case-36-great-inventors/vickers-armstrong-ltd-vickers-pederson-semi-automatic-rifle.aspx
> The Vickers-Pederson competed unsuccessfully against the Garand rifle in U.S. military trials. SN 30

I know Weinerdog Kenobi and Mr. Sleepy Eyes are in VA. If you guys haven't seen some of these museums, you should. The NRA and Udvar-Hazy together would make a day trip.
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I didn't snap a shitload of pics, since they are available on the NRA's website.
>> No. 98612 ID: fe32b3
Damn dude, thanks for sharing that looks like an awesome place to visit.
>> No. 98617 ID: 5e8be9
well fuck my eyeball and call me sally

That place looks awesome. There is a small part of me that is sad that these firearms will most likely never be shot again but at the same time it is nice that they are preserved for future generations.

>>98610
Why are SxS guns so damn sexy?

And why are they so damn expensive? - Not really for reals. I know why.

One day I will own a B. Searcy & Co. Rising Bite Sidelock in 375 H&H...
>> No. 98618 ID: fb893e
*sigh* I need to go back. The last time I was there, I was just getting into guns and was only interested in the military items. The civilian guns were mostly lost on me, which wouldn't be the case now.
>> No. 98621 ID: 088449
  >>98618
They have a shitton of civilian hunter type firearms, which I walked right past. (Just don't curr.) There are some really beautiful examples.

The museum theme is to explain the history and evolution of firearms though different time periods. Which is cool, but again, I just don't care. I'm not interested in anything pre-cartridge.

The main displays are:
History from 1600's and up, old West, WW1 and 2, Korea, Vietnam, Modern. They also have displays for Prototypes, Camp Perry guns, Competition guns, Police guns (random shit really), 100 years of the 1911, Movie guns, displays for inventors like Browning and Garand, and then some miscellaneous cases. (Including a C96 Mauser converted into a rifle.)

There's also a shooting gallery themed exhibit that has motion activated loud carnival noises. It belongs more on a prank TV show than in a museum.


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98449 No. 98449 ID: 5a0b76 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
>civil unrest and COPs being sniped

sooooooo no more .22lr.

Fuck it I'm getting an air rifle. Air rifle general thread- I've done alot of home work and they are good substitutes for most of my .22 needs

Pic to the left is what I plan to get later this year. The Maximus is cheap ($199 at pyramid air), accurate, and powerful enough for punching holes in small game.

The Benjamin Marauders and AirForce Talons would be the next step up, but i don't think I would want to shoot them in my back yard like I could the Maximus
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>> No. 98536 ID: f87148
>>98534

Ugh, I guess that makes sense, at least in the "most gun owners are fucking retards" way.

Fuck it, I'll just buy a .17 HMR...
>> No. 98539 ID: 79b400
>>98534
I miss having a BB gun, it enabled me to do so many trick shots and challenge myself more because of the limitations.
>> No. 98540 ID: 79b400
  >>98535
Also...
>> No. 98544 ID: 681be9
Thinking bout a crosman vantage in .22 myself. I was gonna get something not made in china but fuck you have to pay like 400+ to get some quality rifled steel that goes above 600 FPS. the Dianas and Weihrauchs with suitable pest killing power are more than I'm willing to spend on a armament without the prefix "fire" attached.
thought about a Benjamin 392, but for the price I could go get a .22 lr.
>> No. 98545 ID: 5a0b76
>>98544
You looked at going PCP for your small game hunting needs? If you want that much velocity out of a .22 and I assume use the heavier hunting pellets, you'll get much better results from the PCPs on the market today. There's also multi-pumps.

A new Discovery or Maximus would be economic and relatively powerful, or you could look at used Marauders.


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98119 No. 98119 ID: f87148 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
When I buy this, can I stick a carry handle and A1 front sight post and have it all work out all right? The reason I'm slightly hesitant about this plan is that Sig's website describes the weapon as being "based on the AR-15 platform", which, along with the caliber difference and that... whatever the fuck that is on the front of the handguard (is that the gas block?), gives me pause.

Also, QTDDTOT is go.
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>> No. 98512 ID: 6057a8
>>98511
>posting best Farscape in worst appearance
>> No. 98513 ID: 79b400
>>98511
I should say SPR inspired rifle instead of clone. I'll make changes based on what I feel is needed, but aesthetically I want it to resemble the SPR.

As the for the FAL, I like it. It's comfy and I can dial in the gas block to fire whatever I buy/reload. Do I need any other reason?

Do you want to shit on my desire to own a K31 and reload 7.5x55mm too?
>> No. 98514 ID: 90a126
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>>98512
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who absolutely HATED that episode.
>> No. 98516 ID: dda126
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>>98505 ff

My suggestion would be an AR10 in 6.5mm Creedmoor. But really an SPR inspired AR15, chambered in .223 Wylde, with maybe a >=20inch barrel would probably be more practical...
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>>98514
It's puke!?


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98314 No. 98314 ID: 26bc58 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I bought another upper for my .308 AR. It's an Alexandria Pro-Fab mystery special from Aim Surplus. Cost me $470 ish and it seems alright aside from the proprietary forend mounting system. Shoots 2" groups with decent ammo and 4" with Perfecta .308 from Wal-Mart.
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>> No. 98447 ID: 1057d5
I wonder when perfecta will produce 762x39. Because they are tula/brassmaxx company. Some cheap x39 brass'd would be nice.
>> No. 98448 ID: c550c6
>>98441
That one specifically is unique to the NHM-91. The MAK-90 is a different stock. But the Thordsen stock isn't half bad.

>>98446
>$12 a box federal red box champion

Wish I had that by me.
>> No. 98454 ID: 1057d5
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>>98448
Went back today for tula 7.62, all bought ofcourse so I grabbed this box of 25 00buck for $12 and a 50rnd box of 147gr hp's for $23
>> No. 98455 ID: 1057d5
>>98441
Is your gastube locked down m8?
>> No. 98476 ID: 072b94
>>98376
Walmarts by me still have Perfecta, FMJs for about ~$12/20 rounds, and soft tips for $7/20. I thought the soft tips were just on close out so I bought them all up a few months ago, but they were back at the same price last week.

I haven't seen ZQI at Walmart since Christmas. It was $10/20 when it was there.


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98391 No. 98391 ID: dea436 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I'm broke, and these are relatively inexpensive compared to say, an entry level 1911. Any disadvantages to getting one? Obviously it'd have an import-legal manual safety on it.
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>> No. 98422 ID: 9ba6eb
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98422
That being stated about the Tokarev's noise, flash and penetration in a home environment, I am sure they make for serviceable pistols if in good condition.
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My first pistol was a German WW2 Walther P.38 and it was a good single-stack 9mm. Long double-action trigger pull, but a nice, inexpensive (at least back in 1985) automatic.
>> No. 98424 ID: 9ba6eb
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>>98420
Oh, yes, short barreled pistols are much louder than long barreled rifles, but even something like a Ruger Single-Six .22 LR revolver with a six-inch barrel is much quieter than a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Magnum or Ruger Vaquero .45 Colt (believe me!). Shooting indoors intensifies the noise (reflecting the noise back at you). I remember reading decibel gun data that went into further detail by listing the barrel lengths, but the upshot is that only the .22 Short and .22 Long Rifle are below the 140 decibel mark.

That being stated, I would not recommend you practicing shooting a .22 without ear protection as repeated loud noises can damage your hearing.

- Polish Tokarev 'Sportowy' pistol in .22 LR.
>> No. 98427 ID: 681be9
holy shit I didn't realize Bat Guano ACTUALLY is a robot.

If you're shooting any firearm not in anger other than a .22 short or a suppressed subsonic round and not using hearing protection you should be using protection regardless if indoors or out though. I'd even say earplugs for anything inside. Even loud pellet guns are unpleasant inside if not actually harmful.
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>>98421
>7.62x25mm JHP

Prvi Partizan makes that. It used to be imported as "Wolf Gold," but now you can get it in the blue box.

Brassfetcher tested it but I can't find the results on the new web page:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110108160649/http://www.brassfetcher.com/Wolf%2085gr%20Copper%20JHP.html

Yes, it expands. Yes, it expands going through four layers of denim. Yes, it penetrates well over 12" of calibrated 10% ballistic gelatin whether clothing is present or not. It's also rather inconsistent--for five shots muzzle velocities ranged from 1276 to 1416 f.p.s., an ES of 140 ft/sec, more than 10%, for five shots. I wish those crazy drunken Serbs would tighten up their quality control and get the powder charges a little more consistent, though.


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