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105362 No. 105362 ID: fd55dc hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Hi OPchan /k/. I want to build a Glock because I live in a not-so-friendly-stan state (inb4 move). I pre-ordered a Version 2 full size Polymer 80 frame and I'm between a few options:
1.) KISS Glock 17
2.) Go full tacticool and get a Grey Ghost Precision slide, Trijicon RMR and some WML
3.)Get a G17L slide and shoot nothing but 115gr +P+ ammo (1400fps)
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>> No. 105374 ID: f2172d

Ditto. Putting a lot of money into customizing a gun and then figuring out later down the line that you don't like it sucks. Trying to sell tricked out guns can be difficult as well, since a lot of people get into an attitude of undervaluing the upgrades you put into it.
>> No. 105375 ID: 19518e
>Trying to sell tricked out guns can be difficult as well, since a lot of people get into an attitude of undervaluing the upgrades you put into it.
Many times this, it's often better to part out a tricked out gun as a stock gun and sell the tricked out parts/accessories separately. Few people are actually interested in the exact build you made with the exact accessories you have, but many will be interested in individual pieces or regular guns to make a build similar to yours.

Not a huge consideration if you don't plan on selling, but I see that shit happen all the time.
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I'd go with KISS for now and you can always get another frame and sink more money into it with tacti-cool stuff.

One thing I noticed with getting the P80 it is like buying AR-15 lowers, you slowly trying to put extra parts you have on it but end up building more and more guns. Soon you will have multiple completed P80 that has different things on it.

Also overall it's more expensive to build one than moving parts off an actual Glock. There were couple cheap slide or older gen Glock for sale online but as soon the P80 hit the street all of them went away :(
>> No. 105378 ID: bd9939
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Agree with KISS. I'd put a focus on a more essential"fighting" gun if it's really this much hassle that you're dealing with an 80% frame. Something that you can tuck away in a pinch regardless of CWP status (shit happens) and is streamlined, but still capable of any role decently well.

I was really into the RMR idea for a while until I actually got to play with some pistols with them on. It's actually a ton of bulk and was kind of hard getting the hang of finding the dot quickly. Not knocking them, just realized they're not really for me.

Kind of the same deal with the weapon light. I was super gung ho just a few months ago and put an inforce APL on my suppressor host Glock 19. I am keeping it for now, but I wish I'd read more into the theory of having a secondary handheld light for constantly moving multi positional spot checks instead. It's bulky and makes the pistol front heavy. If I didn't already buy a T-Rex ragnorak holster fitted for the light, I would probably throw it on one of my Ithaca 37 bear gun or something instead.
>> No. 105379 ID: 2fb70c
True for cars too. You'll maybe get 25-50% of what you put into it.

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104969 No. 104969 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I convinced my noguns teaboo roomate into buying an old enfield.


Unfortunately, it keyholed 40 shots in a row of Sellior & Belliot (sp?) ammo.

The rifiling is still clean, what else could cause this difficulty?
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>> No. 104980 ID: 2226b3
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Kinda of reminds me. I don't know if any of you remember but years ago I was setting out to make a .45 Enfield out of one of those Ishapore .410 but ended up giving away the rifle to Lei, for reasons.

Fast forward to earlier this year and I finally got to build one on a butchered Golden State Arms Enfield. I've been busy fulfilling my dream gun list lately.

Pic is the Enfield as I bought it from a pawn shop
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And this is the finished conversion. I went a different route then I originally intended, but I'm happy with the results.
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Got the barrel threaded in hopes of one of the HPA bills passes. I think I want to put a YHM Maxim .45 on it.
>> No. 105020 ID: 81429b
My niggah...
>> No. 105356 ID: b18fec
What do you think our odds on that is? I've also been tempted to turn a shot-to-shit milsurp into a pistol caliber suppressed rifle, but the paperwork for NFA after the efile era is too much hassle, and I've been holding out for suppressor deregulation, both so I can do this project, and so I can make a suomi SBR with integral supressor, just because the way the barrel shroud attaches really screams easy integral SBR to me. Also, hoping that it would speed the fuck out of SBR/SBS forms, if filing a form 1 took only 4 months to clear instead of nearly 2 years, I'd be more okay to jump through the hoops.

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104984 No. 104984 ID: 0f04c4 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Since my new residence lacks any sort of television/cable/satellite/internet capabilities I have been watching films from my collection that I remember enjoying as a younger lad to see if they still hold sway as an older lad. Michael Mann has been seeing a LOT of play, and while enjoying "Thief" I got some major love-chub for Frank's Hoag 1911. It's like someone crafted Jeff Cooper's perception of his own penis into a tangible weapon. I mean James Caan is a boner, but sweet baby Moses Browning, he's got a glorious gun in this film.

So what are some of yoose guys favorite movie firearms? I'm talking actual, real-life firearms. No "phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range." Real deal, pull the trigger, there goes the bullet firearms.
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Campbell and Donovan in Iraq on a morale mission.

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I don't know if a USP is considered simple, but Collateral did a pretty good (for Hollywood) job of portraying skill over gear.
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Especially after Vincent loses his USP.
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Here's one that might make some laugh.

Jeremiah Johnson with either his Hawken rifle (remember, only the .50 can kill a deer) or cap and ball revolvers. He used these to hunt buffalo and fight off Crow as well as any hardened operator of today. In real life, Jeremiah was known for kicking men to death in a fight.

I have one of these things sitting in the corner that I have never fired. Don't even know how, but my dad bought it as a kit while part timing it at a sporting goods store after this movie came out and assembled it. I like to think of myself as a big wannabe mountain man, and do enjoy having it. Someday I'll probably even try making my own buckskins.

Excellent reference. I can only watch that movie for two scenes. Vincent's shootouts in the alley, and in the nightclub. Love me some Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, not so much.
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105203 No. 105203 ID: 21412a hide watch quickreply [Reply]
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102491 No. 102491 ID: b70387 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
From d0041a, in the CZ P10 thread, for whatever reason:


>The U.S. Army on Thursday awarded Sig Sauer a contract worth $580 million to make the next service pistol based on the company's P320 handgun.

>Sig Sauer beat out Glock Inc., FN America and Beretta USA, the maker of the current M9 9mm service pistol, in the competition for the Modular Handgun System, or MHS, program.

>One of the major goals of the effort was to adopt a pistol chambered for a more potent round than the current 9mm. The U.S. military replaced the .45 caliber 1911 pistol with the M9 in 1985 and began using the 9mm NATO round at that time.

>Two sources confirmed to Military.com that Sig submitted to the Army .40-caliber and 9mm pistols for consideration. One source said the Army ultimately selected the 9mm version.

>The Army in December down-selected to two finalists for the competition: Sig and Glock, which had submitted its Glock 17 and Glock 19 models for consideration. Given the size of the contract, Glock is widely expected to protest the decision.

>Army officials informed Beretta USA and FN America at the show that they had been dropped from the competition in the recent down-select decision, according to a service source who is not authorized to speak to the press. But confusion reigned as reporters informed company officials of the Army's announcement.
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>> No. 105193 ID: df12a0
I won't drop test my beloved CZs on account of my aversion to doing something that seems I should be actively avoiding doing in the first place.
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>I won't drop test my beloved CZs on account of my aversion to doing something that seems I should be actively avoiding doing in the first place.

Well gee, how simple! Why even have guns for self defense? Just actively avoid getting attacked!?! Checkmate atheists/islamists/socialists!
>> No. 105198 ID: 9dcda2
Shooting 3-gun, I've had my VP liberate itself from my person twice while running. One more time when the whole holster fell off.

I've got a Bladetech holster and it works fine as long as you re-check the retention screws and blue loctite the mounting screws.
>> No. 105199 ID: e266a3
I got an email from GrayGuns telling me to hang onto the straight PELT trigger after sending the gun in. Sounds like they're working on an exchange or something to adapt to whatever changes Sig is going to implement in the upgrade program.

That's a bit of dust off my shoulder since I hadn't even installed it when the news first broke about this, and I was thinking I'd have to eat the cost since I couldn't resell it in good faith to someone else no matter how many owners might not care to send their gun in.

Vurrwapen ended up doing a follow-up vid with more pistols. If I'm not mistaken the APX and P-10C are up next.
>> No. 105200 ID: df12a0
>Why even have guns for self defense? Just actively avoid getting attacked!?!


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105125 No. 105125 ID: bf333d hide watch quickreply [Reply]

Ruger RPR rifles with an alu bolt shroud can potentially have light primer strikes, or failures to fire (with the rifle firing when you try to lift the bolt).

Doesn't seem like a serious problem.
>> No. 105184 ID: 9dcda2
> This serial number does not appear to be affected by this safety bulletin.

Sweet. Also I have a plastic bolt shroud on mine.
>> No. 105186 ID: bf333d
>Also I have a plastic bolt shroud on mine.

As I understood, none of the plastic shroud ones are affected anyway.

Probably a design fuckup after the public started nagging that they didn't want plastic parts on the gun and the new design was not properly tested.

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105167 No. 105167 ID: 22c903 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
heres mine.
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10/10, would slay Jem'hadar, Romulans, and dishonorable petaQ with.
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I like it.

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105101 No. 105101 ID: 8a0d55 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Any and all internal pics
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Several M12s (see center) were used in the defense of the US embassy in Saigon in 1968.

Current model Beretta PM12-S2 with skeleton stock.
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102559 No. 102559 ID: 2a5860 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
While I wouldn't call it a resolution, I have decided that I want to get out shooting more this year. For a number of reasons, the last couple years I haven't made it to either the range or the woods, and I aim to fix that.

I'm planning on taking some classes as soon as I can, but in the meantime, I'm looking to gather up some good resources towards bettering myself as a shooter, rather than just going out and making noise. I'm getting a shot timer and a few target stands, and my goal is to get out and do 200-250 rounds once a month. My focus will be on my carry guns; Glock 19 and 43. I'll probably work the AR every couple of months too.

So, I'd like to devote a theead to training resources found on the web, and I'd be interested in Opchan's input.

The obvious one that I already have bookmarked is www.pistol-training.com.

What other good sources are out there? Drills? Targets? YouTube channels?
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>> No. 103452 ID: 6ca38e

Yeah, I've got Magpul's handgun downloaded, and I think I have the Panteo Adaptive Handgun with Travis Haley around somewhere too. Honestly though, I think I'm fairly well prepared as far as the weapon manipulation goes, just need to get the reps in. Never hurts to revisit content though.

And yeah, Jessie Whateverthefuck is pretty damn smokin, I'm just not sure I can get past her drawl. Like...it works for some women, it really does. I'm not so sure she's one of them though. But eh, yeah, would hit. Would marry and then subsequently divorce when she started banging her team coach again or whatever.

But yeah, like I think Doomguy said in another thread, a woman who knows her way around a gun with a good level of confidence instantly goes up a point or two on the good ol' 10 scale. There were actually a couple cuties at the ASI match I shot. Potential exists.
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Shot a 2-gun competition today. First time ever. Had a lot of fun even though I wasn't anywhere close to winning. First time shooting a plate rack and a Texas Star, and both large and small poppers. Still, managed to do alright. The match was split into "open" and "tactical" division with the majority of the field in tactical, including myself. Just 13 out of 51 shot open. And out of 51 names on the score sheet, it was only 43 scored shooters due to 3 DQs and 5 no shows.

So, ranked #13 in my division, #21 overall. Had one procedural where I stepped outside the box to get a shot. Just couldn't barely see the damn target from the box and overcorrected when I tried to get to the corner of the box. One failure to neutralize (Neutralizing requires either 1 A zone hit, or 2 outside the A hits) was my only other penalty, otherwise I shot it clean.

Ran the Glock 19 for my handgun, XS Big dots on it and an extended mag and slide release but otherwise stock. For my rifle I ran my PBEAR MKII. 16" BCM stainless upper with KMR handguard, Geiselle SSA, A2 stock and ACOG. I really liked the ACOG for this shoot. Even though there were was a wide spread (3 to 100 meters) of rifle targets, it worked for everything. Used the Bindon Aiming Concept thing they always talk about to use the ACOG like a collimator sight and it worked great. Consistent hits doing it that way even on 1/2 IPSC targets at various ranges. Nice and fast too. Just had to aim a tad high to account for the zero and height over bore, but I didn't have a single miss on short range targets.

But yeah, I got smoked. They had several of the local "Pro" teams show up for the match, and even Rainier Arms' team came down from Seattle to shoot, plus a lot of the teams shot the match yesterday too (two day event, each day scored as a standalone match) so those guys had an extra leg up on shit today. Oh well.

Gotta find some more stuff to shoot around here. I think I'm getting a bug.
>> No. 105072 ID: 9dcda2
> Shot a 2-gun competition today. First time ever. Had a lot of fun
Outstanding. It begins.

> Texas Star
I love shooting the Texas Star but hate resetting it.

> Bindon Aiming Concept
We typically shoot rifle at 75-ish yards and I found the ACOG to be slower than irons or a RDS. The ACOG is a fucking fantastic sight but kinda sucks for competition use. Either a V-mag scope or red dot is the way to go. Hell, if you've got good eye sight, even irons are usable.

> But yeah, I got smoked.
There's always someone better than you. I've got video from most of my shoots, and I was fucking slow. It takes probably 10 shoots to really get into it. Just learn from the fast guys.
>> No. 105083 ID: 6ca38e
Yeah, I suck with irons though and the BAC was working well for me. Like I said, for short range shots I was using it like a collimator sight and focusing on the target with my left eye. As soon as I had a splash of color on the target (a little highish on said target) I'd squeeze off a pair (or maybe three shots). None of my rifle targets had a FTN or FTE and I didn't hit any noshoots, so it worked pretty ok for me. Given that my other option was to run my Aimpoint Micro T1 or PRO, it was a pretty conscious choice to do it this way. So yeah, it very well may have been faster to use another method, maybe 45* irons or something, but this method worked ok for me, and it's kinda nice to have placed how I did running the gear I was. I mean shit, I was running an A2 stock as well. I think, skill wise, I'm a long way away from my equipment being the deciding factor in the outcome of my shooting, so for the moment I'm holding off on building up a rifle for the purpose of competition.

I've been looking at that Primary Arms Platinum 1-8x though. That'd be pretty tits. Or a 6x magnifier in a side flip mount to throw behind my T1. Had a 4x that got ripped off out of my car and loved it. Just gotta justify the dosh for one or both of those things.

As an aside, I had a Hazard 4 Overwatch rifle bag I got for a steal that I used for the competition and it was so fucking perfect for the job.
>> No. 105084 ID: 6ca38e
Also, just as a note of lulz, one of the other guys running the comp ran it with an M1A and a 50 cal Deagle. Always knew when he was up to the line, even when he was on a different stage.

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105047 No. 105047 ID: e266a3 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I've never owned an M9 or any other Beretta product for that matter, but Ernest Langdon posted a thread on PF proposing a special run of M9s that turned into real thing within a couple months. They can be pre-ordered on Bud's.



Granted, there's a lot of other customization options out there that some folks would prefer, i.e. Wilson Combat's package, and if I hadn't already hopped on the polymer striker bandwagon for carry (first with the M&P 9, and now the P320) I'd probably be looking at the P4 for a DA/SA instead.

However, since I didn't mind the M9 too much while I was in the military, I like the idea of having one for around 700bux that was manufactured with what seems likely to be the last batch of service M9s to come out of the plant in Tennessee.
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A gunsmith would probably make more money selling Robocop replica pistols.
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Although the Italian Beretta 93R (R for 'burst fire') selective-fire machine pistol has it's charm.
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>A gunsmith would probably make more money selling Robocop replica pistols.

I seriously doubt that.

Robocop-ish guns have been made in the past & were never really popular.

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