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103519 No. 103519 ID: b430d1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
what kind of gun is this?
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>> No. 103532 ID: 22c903
holi Shit, its like lookin a six way mirror
>> No. 103624 ID: 031b25
Captain Sweden strikes again!
>> No. 103649 ID: 815268
Deagle Mk I WWI prototype
>> No. 103650 ID: 5c87e8
is that ball ammo or API Anus Piercing Immunodeficiency?
>> No. 103651 ID: 6057a8
Could be APIT Anus Piercing Internal Trauma.

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102932 No. 102932 ID: 7c3c05 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I don't own any snubby revolvers and they're not my favorite class of firearm, but I want to be more gooder at shootan and stuff.

I went to a range yesterday and rented a stainless Airweight and put fifty rounds of .38 through it at seven yards, with results attached. Head shots required me to slow down enough that I would not have been comfortable trying this against an armed and hostile opponent, instead of a motionless paper target. I did get five for five. The alert observer may have noticed that the hole in the middle is a bit elongated.

Impressions: it's hard to see and align stainless sights in a hurry under a lot of lighting conditions, especially when you're fighting a twelve-pound trigger attached to a twelve-ounce firearm that has a sight radius of about three inches.

I expected recoil was much worse, having heard horror stories for years about how lightweight snubbies will bounce the fillings right out of your teeth. Ammo was Fiocchi 125gr truncated-cone FMJ, not designated +P. I have never seen chrono data for this ammo and have no idea how much velocity it had, but the flat pointed bullets made neat round holes in the paper target. Muzzle flash was an enormous white fireball and I could feel the warmth of it on my face and hands--but empties dropped out of the chambers with no effort required other than holding the gun muzzle-up with the cylinder open and shaking it a bit. Primers don't look flattened, nor cratered.

A lot of my shots went low and/or low and left. The diagnostic target suggests I may be jerking the trigger and/or pushing down with my thumb and/or tightening my grip while I drag the trigger back.

I did figure out eventually that the J-frame's lockwork, at least on that particular example, had two soft hitches, or hesitations, that I could feel just before the hammer dropped, and that I could use this to stage the trigger. That helped some.

I am sure someone here knows more about running a snubby revolver than I do. Is there anything I'm missing here, other than needing more practice with this particular class of firearm?
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>> No. 103036 ID: 7c3c05
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>Have you tried the Smith & Wesson Model 640 Pro? A 5-shot .357 Magnum with a 2.13-inch barrel.

I have not. I did last year try a the Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum, a less pretty but lightweight polymer framed snubby.

I have to say that fifty rounds of American Eagle 158gr softnoses were just about as much fun as I really wanted to have. And I don't consider myself especially recoil-sensitive, at least with handguns. Smith 29s and 629s with full-power .44 Mag ammo are, for me, fun (within the limits of my DA shooting), not punishing. But that LCR in .357 was a bit much.
>> No. 103038 ID: 9dcda2
That's the one.

>I want to be more skilled at using all types of firearms

I'm with you here. I understand people who train on one type and that's it. But I like guns too much to do that. I'm decent with damn near anything and good with any proper firearm. With revolvers, just go with a decent quality Smith or Ruger with a 4" or 6" barrel, and actually enjoy shooting it.

> but short-barreled .38 Special revolvers strike me as being 1898's answer to questions about concealable handguns for self-defense. The 20th Century had better answers to those questions, and the 21st Century has better answers still.

Yes. I crack up at stories of people still carrying 38 revolvers in Vietnam.

> using the stance and grip from this old training film

No, just no.
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>> No. 103044 ID: 813f6b
>I can get faster hits and hold the X-ring using the sights. For me, at least, point shooting doesn't seem to work very well.

An interesting test to do, is to put a humansized target at 10 yards, place your feet in the correct shooting position and have the gun at low ready. Now close your eyes and bring the gun up to your natural point of aim and slowly fire off a round or 3 with your eyes still closed.

While not perfectly grouped, they'll be in about the same area and will show you if it's actually your stance that's throwing you off. Or well, you could just be pulling every shot, but that is something that someone watching you should be able to tell you. If there's no obvious reason why you're fucking up the shots, it's likely because you're fighting your natural stance.
>> No. 103638 ID: 7c3c05
I did this at the range today, though I was trying something I'd just purchased which was a bit muzzle heavy--a Ruger Mk III "Hunter" with the 6 7/8" fluted target barrel.

Got 7 of 10 on paper, all low, in a pattern only slightly less wide than the entire paper target, which was another B27.

I will need to do this again with other firearms to see whether it's the long heavy barrel that makes me shoot low or something else, I think.
>> No. 103645 ID: 813f6b

If the Hunter is atypical (in length, front weight and very importantly, the grip angle) it might be normal at first that you're not tracking as you should. That said, I've have expected them all to be on paper. Seems rather inconsistent if you're all over the place.

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103536 No. 103536 ID: 028b36 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Got my CQR today, it was a nice surprise, I was checking the order status like crazy last week… nothing.
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>> No. 103618 ID: 040900
Holds in the detent spring for the fire select.
In the standard AR grip the spring just goes in a hole in the grip.

>> No. 103620 ID: ad8094
Correct, normally AR pistol grip install up into the receiver but CQR has to come in from the back because of the buffer tube so the spring has to be installed afterward

A bunch people on /k/inder is saying mine is a bootleg/knockoff and theirs doesn't look like mine and better. But no one has offered actual photo of their taken apart stock.

Also please stand by for range report, I haven't have time to take pictures but both Frankengun and Stoplossed doesn't like the stock. It functions but they feel meh about it.
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One of the thing I didn't like about the stock is the cheek weld area feels odd. Look at the Magpul MOE/CTR it's slightly larger compare to the CQR which made the CQR a little bit less comfortable to rest my face on it.
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>> No. 103632 ID: f2172d
Handled the Cali-compliant HERA stock today. You're right Mammit, those mold lines are rather noticeable.

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103592 No. 103592 ID: d03cad hide watch quickreply [Reply]
If fucgn only. I'd get it. I wan't one so bad now.
Site was a tease. Fuck those people. What do yall think?
>inb4 old

>> No. 103593 ID: f2172d
this is reddit tier faggotry, especially for a fake product.
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Yeah, man. I want my alien shoulder thing that goes up. It's pretty highly reviewed.

>Best laser blaster I ever used. Total disintegration. Just awkward ducking through heavy cover.
>> No. 103598 ID: 9dcda2
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Based Exile Machine.
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Reminds me of reading about people making space gun props for movies and placing a blank-firing revolver or starter pistol inside it.
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>Reminds me of reading about people making space gun props for movies and placing a blank-firing revolver or starter pistol inside it.

But you just posted 2 real guns in one (only 1 left functional though). :)

Charter Arms 44Spl Police Bulldog + Steyr Mannlicher 222 Model SL

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103368 No. 103368 ID: 220d82 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So Grumpier left me a pile of muzzle loaders - all are reproductions - some flintlock, some cap-n-ball, some Civil War, some frontiersman... I helped make some of these guns when I was a kid and shot the Hell out of them.

Trouble is I don't remember the details. FF powder for the barrel, FFF for the pan? How many grains of FF do I start with?

I've been told there's a rough formula that for a .35 caliber you start with 35 grains, for a .50 caliber, 50 grains and so on. That seems grossly too easy. I can mic out all the barrels and get exact calibers, but assume I have quite a few. Any good starting tips on what I should be buying and how much I should be loading?

Will take some pics soon, but for now, here's a generic one I stole from the Interbutts.
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I'm going to hijack this. Not muzzle loading, but I shot my Pietta 1860 yesterday for the first time yesterday. I'm a total n00b when it comes to black powder.

1) I cleaned up using a mix of vinegar and water (shooting Pyrodex) using an old toothbrush, cleaning rod, and a copper wire (for the nipple holes). Is there some better solution for cleaning up Pyrodex? Also, how urgent is it to neutralize the salts? I cleaned it same day but I didn't wash it at the range immediately after shooting.

2) I topped each cylinder with bore butter because I had read you need to "season" new barrels. Long-term, how much lubricant should you be shooting?

3) Hard to say, but how many shots/fowling accumulate before it begins to affect accuracy? Trying to decide if it's worth bringing a whole cleaning kit to the range.
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I heard a neat trick to dial in your powder is to get a tarp and just shoot over it. Any presence of unburnt powder should indicate that you should use less and adjust from there.

I've also been using FFF powder as primer in my flintlock with less than moderate success. Would recommend FFFF to prime the pan
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What is meant by a "muzzle-loading bolt action?"
>> No. 103578 ID: 72cb51
They are also called "in-line muzzle-loaders" where the bolt's firing pin strikes the percussion cap you place over the nipple when you open the bolt.
How To Load & Fire a Bolt Action Muzzleloader Rifle - Muzzle-Loaders.com https://youtu.be/gKlyvTnhgGk
>> No. 103602 ID: 22c903
yo DAWG I herd you like bein a Fudd while you Fudd.

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103525 No. 103525 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
At Ares, Eugene Stoner worked on the FARC-3 rifle. Clearly has some influences of the AR-18 and the Stoner 63, but I can't find much about it. Anyone have any good sources or pictures?
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FARC-EP is Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia—People's Army.
And they seem to favor Kalashnikovs and Galils.
>> No. 103528 ID: 72cb51
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Being such fans of drug smuggling, you would think they'd also be fans of Stoner's rifles.
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I spoke too soon.
>> No. 103530 ID: 9dcda2
My source: http://weaponsman.com/?p=6709

> Two of the most interesting articles cover guns that never caught on, the FN CAL, and the even more exotic, FARC-3.

> FARC-3 1986The FARC-3 was the “assault rifle of tomorrow” in 1986, and we guess it still is. The resemblance to the AR-18 and Stoner 63 is come by honestly enough, for the FARC was also a Gene Stoner design. Funded by DARPA and built by the Ohio company ARES, the FARC acronym stood for Future Assault Rifle Concept, and the gun used an AK-ish operating system, with striker rather than hammer fire, and then-novel plastic magazines. The article predicted that the idea of plastic magazines, at least, was here to stay.
>> No. 103534 ID: 813f6b
>My source

Yeah, reverse image search got me that much. But other than that? Very little.
Which is odd. It looks like an interesting rifle that's a significant departure from the AR15, AR18 or Stoner 63.

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103499 No. 103499 ID: eb2308 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
One of these glorious motherfuckers is sitting on my bed waiting to be cleaned right now.

don't know what it is?

Get $450.

Now imagine that it was an AK "pistol" chambered in 9mm, taking beretta 92 magazines, with an optional glawk adapter.

Now imagine that it show extremely well, because 9mm doesn't have recoil in a gun this heavy, and didn't give two shits what you try to feed it because it's... still an AK at heart.

If you have an erection-and you should-go buy one.

If you don't, you have ED. Go buy Viagra, then buy one.
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>> No. 103508 ID: 19518e
I wish 7.62x25 firearms were more prevalent, or even in current production for stuff like PCCs and maybe the odd bolt action for shits and giggles. It's such a forgotten gem of a caliber, especially with the surplus that's still relatively available.

I am also a little leery of Chiappa. I have never seen one gun made by them that didn't feel like a cheap pellet gun that shot real ammo.
>> No. 103509 ID: fb893e
I think it's a super fun concept, but also super fucking ugly. I'd love to see one SBR'd and with chopped down Krinkov furniture...but at that point, you're probably spending MP5-clone money.

The replaceable magwell is a cool idea, though. I'd love to see people 3D print new magwells for all sorts of guns - M&Ps, CZs, various H&Ks, etc.
>> No. 103510 ID: eb2308
This doesn't. I normally wouldn't bother with them, butI had the chance to fuck with a friends pak-9 beforeI bought mine.

I feels like what it is-and AK with the stock cut off and a tiny barrel so the ATF doesn't get scared.

It's not even a changeable magwell. There's a plastic adapter over a standard AK magwell. Remove it and I can lock my AK mags in just fine, though it won't feed for obvious reasons.

Plus side, you actually could 3D print new adapters if you wanted, they just pop on and off when you want to switch from beretta to glock and back.
>> No. 103518 ID: fb893e
>It's not even a changeable magwell. There's a plastic adapter over a standard AK magwell. Remove it and I can lock my AK mags in just fine, though it won't feed for obvious reasons.

>Plus side, you actually could 3D print new adapters if you wanted, they just pop on and off when you want to switch from beretta to glock and back.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I heard about the magwells being held in by a standard AK mag release. Very clever. It's a pity it's hard to swap barrels on AKs, otherwise you could have a blast with caliber swaps on these things.
>> No. 103533 ID: 044fd0
Kind of want...

I wonder how difficult it would be to swap out the furniture for something more classic looking. A threaded muzzle would be nice too.

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103476 No. 103476 ID: 3f5192 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Picked up a Chapuis double barrel rifle as part of an estate sale and I'm trying to get some more info about it and maybe a value.

My research lead me to find the year it was made and a few other minor details, but I'm looking for more answers. I came across this article in an old magazine discussing what appears to be the exact model. The problem is it's all in french...

I realize I'm probably asking a lot here, but is anyone here capable of translating this for me? I scanned it as best as I could.
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>> No. 103498 ID: 62d0fe
Ah, whoops.

I really haven't even seen one before, so I didn't know what to make of it. Thanks for the correction.
>> No. 103504 ID: 3f5192
I'll keep an eye out. Thanks again.

>current production
This one was made in 1980.

It has side plates and a signature under the barrels.
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>Thanks for the correction.

Well, I'm no expert. Only way to know for sure is asking Chapuis.

>This one was made in 1980.

Just email Chapuis? Or shoot me the serial and some detail pictures at godverdomme@operatorchan.org and I'll ask for you on frog.
>> No. 103514 ID: 952452

>the Double Express Chapuis is today, in fact, one of the most popular rifles of its class in the world.
>in fact, one of the most popular rifles of its class in the world.
>one of the most popular
>in fact

>> No. 103517 ID: 19518e
Hey I'm just translating.

... Damn "most popular" is really more like "best selling". I guess it's not a huge difference but I am aiming for accuracy.

No. 103481 ID: 8f0bf5 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So, how 'bout that MOAB?
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>> No. 103496 ID: 5f0404
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The US's Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) bomb does not cost $314 million, or $16 million, but $170,000 a unit, the US Air Force told Business Insider on Friday. The $170,000 figure makes sense considering a general purpose 1,000-pound MK-83 costs about $12,000. The MOAB simply features more high explosives and larger fins to direct the GPS-guided munition. http://www.businessinsider.com/real-cost-of-moab-mother-of-all-bombs-170-000-2017-4
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The basic operational concept bears some similarity to the BLU-82 Daisy Cutter, which was used to clear heavily wooded areas in the Vietnam War and in Iraq to clear mines and later as a psychological weapon against the Iraqi military. After the psychological impact of the BLU-82 on enemy soldiers was witnessed, and no BLU-82 weapons remained, the MOAB was developed partly to continue the ability to intimidate Iraqi soldiers. Pentagon officials had suggested their intention to use MOAB as an anti-personnel weapon, as part of the "shock and awe" strategy integral to the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The MOAB is not a penetrator weapon and is primarily intended for soft to medium surface targets covering extended areas and targets in a contained environment such as a deep canyon or within a cave system. However, multiple strikes with lower yield ordnance may be more effective and can be delivered by fighter/bombers such as the F-16 with greater stand-off capability than the C-130 and C-17. However, these strikes would not have the ability to cave terrain such as the tunnel complexes MOAB was used against during the 13 April 2017, strike. High altitude carpet-bombing with much smaller 230-to-910-kilogram (500 to 2,000 lb) bombs delivered via heavy bombers such as the B-52, B-2, or the B-1 is also highly effective at covering large areas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast
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When I first heard that the MOAB was used against caves in Afghanistan, I thought that this might be misreported as the MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator), a smaller but heavier 30,000-pound "bunker buster" bomb, designed for destroying deep underground targets.
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Plus, the MOP can be dropped by actual bombers such as the B-2 or B-52.
- A B-52 releases a test version of the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) during a test of the weapon over White Sands Missile Range, N.M. in 2009.
>> No. 103506 ID: 19518e
>MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator)
There's a joke about your mom's dildo in there somewhere, but it's just not the same without NSWG doing it.

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103357 No. 103357 ID: efeb68 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
After that CZ deal fell apart I was a little dissuaded from buying firearms for awhile. I have around $400 that I can spend, what in your opinion would be the best deal I could get? Only stipulation is that it needs to be NYS compliant, and big enough for my meaty hands
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> Or you could just learn to shoot your gun.

I dunno. I shot a Taurus .22LR revolver that had a trigger like weaponized arthritis. That goes a bit beyond "Git gud".
>> No. 103473 ID: e0a98d
since you're so capacity limited anyways, I recommend trying to find a s&w model 39-2 (the dash 2 versions will feed hp, I'm told). right around your price range, decent quality, trigger, function, ect. the design has some interesting history as well, first 9mm s&w made, as well as the first 9mm adopted by the seals, to my knowledge.
>> No. 103474 ID: 0f04c4
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I second any and all Smith and Wesson 2nd and 3rd generation suggestions. I was bequeathed a late/transitional model 659 years ago that I take out any time a coworker or one of my wife's friends wants to learn to shoot pistols. They're plenty accurate and reliable, and they should be relatively easy to find in your budget. There's also a surplus of 10 round mags for them floating around from the dark-age-ban-years.
>> No. 103484 ID: 0f04c4
What about some Korean love?
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DP51? Last I knew these were sub $300. Nutnfancy liked his. I like mine. The "triple action" is pretty neato.

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