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101770 No. 101770 ID: 6467ac hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Potential new ar owner, i have a friend who wants to sell me either an an aero or an anderson lower for 75$

Are there any considerations i should make?

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>> No. 101773 ID: 2ed649
Aero makes nice lowers. That tensioning screw is a nice feature.
>> No. 101774 ID: 9db9eb
That's about $15 too much for an Anderson lower, IMO, but not bad for an Aero. I'd do it.

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101711 No. 101711 ID: 19518e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I may be able to buy a post-WW2 Winchester made 1897 Trench. Comes with sling, sword bayonet, and scabbard. Apparently it's pretty much original except for having been reblued.

Seller is asking bout 15 hunnerd an fiddy shipped, and I am really really split down the middle, picture related.
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>> No. 101756 ID: 0adaa6
also ya i live my 97 trench gun i have no pics and its back in WI but ya heir awesome, though i built mine throwing this kit on it, http://www.ima-usa.com/u-s-wwi-winchester-m-1897-trench-gun-ventilated-barrel-jacket-heat-shield-with-bayonet-mount.html its interesting having a gun that is over 100 years old and i chopped up and now use for everything.
>> No. 101762 ID: 6057a8
So if I can haggle a little, would it be not a terrible deal? Honestly I haven't many any trench guns floating around, especially these days, so I'm not familiar with price ranges on these things. If someone has a gun value book, it would be cool to get an idea from there.

Also I would love to hear some insights about it, like stuff you don't see on wikipedia. Takedown intricacies, quirks while using it and stuff, all would be nice to know before making a final decision.
>> No. 101764 ID: 6057a8
>lol self reply
Decent enough video. Takedown doesn't look too bad, it's not modern-tier monkey disassembly guns but it isn't as hairy as some of the guns I've taken apart.

I'd still like to hear some insider details and stuff people find out when shooting it versus the average google pamphlet info stubs.
>> No. 101768 ID: 4b3eed
I lucked out on a Norinco 97T online for 300 about 6 years ago, and found a bayonet in a Daytona pawn shop for $90. I absolutely love it, it feels very durable but before I do any more shooting with it I want to send it to coyote cap for a once-over.

The 97 is a very unconventional shotgun. But god damn that slamfire is wicked.

as for OP, imo 1k usd is technically a good deal on a fullkit trenchgun, but personally I would get the cheapest regular 97 and put the heatshield on after the fact, cutting down the barrel as necessary(iirc the 97T is 20" bbl)

i hate the model 10 is so devastating and the 97trench is so weak. looking forward to hardcore
>> No. 101769 ID: 6057a8
>as for OP, imo 1k usd is technically a good deal on a fullkit trenchgun, but personally I would get the cheapest regular 97 and put the heatshield on after the fact, cutting down the barrel as necessary(iirc the 97T is 20" bbl)

I keep thinking about this. There are a few cheaper Winchester 1897s around and I can do a nice clean job cutting it and everything. The problem is getting the heat-shield shipped over, and finding a bayonet. By the time I've paid an arm and a dick for shipping, US conversion to maple monopoly yen, then taxes and stuff I'd probably not be that much cheaper off.

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101712 No. 101712 ID: a5507d hide watch quickreply [Reply]
>went back to gunstore
>ask the guy whats taking so long
>tells me that CZ makes everything and sends it over in bulk to a distributor
>tells me if I want a new gun I'll have to wait
>"You could always buy this shitty Remington 1911, Anon! Only half the price and a 1/10th of the quality! :^)! OR maybe you'd prefer this classy hi-point?"
I wish I was a glockfag so I wouldn't have to suffer
>> No. 101720 ID: fb893e
Since they're jerk in you around, cancel the order and buy from one from some place on here:

>> No. 101754 ID: bd9939
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>tells me that CZ makes everything and sends it over in bulk to a distributor

That's a really weird thing to say to a customer. That's kind of how it works for everyone depending on where you sit on the inventory allocation chain. Some company might have dibs on fulfillment for a full production run due to a large purchase or something, but that doesn't matter... All you need to know is wherethey are...

I can't remember if CZ typically goes vendor direct or not, but I will try to take a peak at some of our distributors when I get back from my trip next week and see whats out there to see if you're being jerked around.
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I'm pretty sure my order would be way, way, wayyy towards the bottom of the chain. I'd be surprised if the guy sells more than a single handgun a month. There really aren't all that many gunstores that sell them here, I think there might be 3 in the entire county with a license to sell handguns or want to go through the fucking hassle. So I guess it is entirely possible that CZ has bigger and more important fish to fry than me.

I might have ordered it at a really bad time, just before an election season. It might be backed up for months.

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101679 No. 101679 ID: cd5ece hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So it looks like SA is a little late to the party, offering an AR with a non-free floated handguard and fixed front sight. The rollmark looks fucking cool though. Good marketing too.


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Caliber --- 5.56x45mm NATO (.223REM)
Length --- 35.5" Fully Extended / 32.25" Collapsed
Weight --- 6lbs 11oz
Upper Receiver --- Forward Assist and M4 Feed Ramps​
Lower Receiver --- 7075 T6 Aluminum, Accu-Tite™ Tension System​
Barrel --- 16" Chrome Moly Vanadium, 1:8 RH Twist, Melonite®
Gas System --- Mid-Length Gas System, .750 Diameter Gas Block
Trigger --- Springfield Armory® Proprietary, Nickel Boron Coated GI
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Care to strip it for inspection, like staking, extractor insert, and other such little details?
>> No. 101702 ID: 88a6f1
Yawn. Nothing really huge enough to differentiate from the thousands of other ARs on the market.
>> No. 101706 ID: bd9939
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Please understand a scary large portion of firearm consumers can barely operate google if they can even turn a computer on. Even many of those that can, are simply terrified of popping two pins in. 90% of the people buying firearms think they are incapable of mounting a scope on their hunting rifle (many really are).

I churn out crappy Ruger AR556's, DPMS Oracles, M&P Sports and Bushmaster QRC's by the armload despite my best efforts because people do not give a fuck about specifications. They are poorly budgeted, always poorly informed by "Uncle Bill: former supply clerk and police officer superstar", and just want an "assault raffle" before they can't have one. They care if they've heard the name before, that's it. Same concept applies to a Tikka T3x vs a shitty Remington 700 ADL combo, ADL is going to win 9 times out of 10 because da 700 is a gud gun rite. You can spend an hour explaining technical aspects, practical application and "Good, better, best" as simply as humanly possible, think you've made progress on even something basic like a Colt 6920, and suddenly they're right back to RUGAH when you turn around.

Springfield has recreated the XD here. That slightly shittier gun in the same price range as better guns, but dat nostalgic lie of a name tho. It'll probably win a couple of awards.

I still think it could be a lot worse.
>> No. 101718 ID: f87148

I really don't get people getting asspained over the Springfield thing. I mean, it's brilliant marketing, and if people are stupid enough to fall for it (spoiler alert...), exploiting them is only natural.

But yeah, I totally get the rest of your post. I've gotten to the point where unless it's a family member (and one I actually like, at that), I don't even bother telling people they've got something completely bass-ackwards wrong -- even if it's something which could easily get them killed.
>> No. 101722 ID: fb3bdd
...See if the delta ring wobbles.

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101675 No. 101675 ID: 38cc19 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
It is in good condition and was about to go to my local gun store to trade it but I really don't know what I have.
It is in great shape and is just missing one of the scope mount rails on the barrel.

It has a SUPER TARGETSPOT scope with it that is a bit broken.
Thanks for any help and if I am in the wrong spot I apologize. I can provide more pictures if needed.
>> No. 101676 ID: 454a4b
It's in the right spot, don't worry.

I don't have any clue about what this could go for in the US though.
>> No. 101677 ID: 632b3e
Well, pricing on gunbroker seems to be $1,000 to $1,400 - so the gun store would likely offer you about half that.
>> No. 101693 ID: 38cc19
Cool. That is about the average of what I have been told.

I'm gonna do a private sale instead of getting reamed at the gun store.

Thanks for the help!

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101639 No. 101639 ID: 7014c6 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
The gun-store essentially told me to pound sand when I called them and told me it'll take however long it takes. Why would someone who hates gun owners open up a gunstore? Why is NYS such suffering?
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>> No. 101663 ID: 7014c6
I'm left handed, that's pretty much why I ordered one instead of a CZ-75
>> No. 101672 ID: 58b5fb
dude cancel the order due to unreasonable timetables and then order on Buds...
oh well fuck...you know you have 4 states East/NorthEast of your that aren't completely fucked on gun laws?
RI is better
NH&VT are WAY better
Maine is also WAY better but slightly less so than NH&VT in practice

If you can't move to a non-Peoples Republic consider throwing down threats (and following through) of reporting to BBB, a local chamber of comers, leave bad reviews on Gun Boards etc. Dude needs to explain in detail why it is taking so long.
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holy fuck I fail
>> No. 101674 ID: 58bbbc
I'll give him until friday, only because I heard that ordering a CZ-85 might take awhile. Then I'll probably just pick up a couple of boxes of 9mm with my order money and try to find another gunstore that sells handguns.

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101668 No. 101668 ID: 55e022 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
FN barrel after 80-100k rounds.
>> No. 101669 ID: 454a4b
Tiny bit of erosion there.

I guess when you're renting them out to people to magdump at 15 yards, you don't really care your rifling is gone.
>> No. 101671 ID: cd5ece
I've always wondered how much gas port erosion actually happened. So in 4-5 barrel lifes it might be an issue.

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100476 No. 100476 ID: 33cb6b hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Matchlocks, wheellocks, handgonnes and black powder cannon.
The hand cannon, or handgonne, is possibly the oldest type of small arms, as well as the simplest type of early firearm, as most examples require manual ignition.

First developed in the 12th century in China, earliest European examples date to the 14th century. http://imgur.com/gallery/q50Ce
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>> No. 101645 ID: 1b9ff7
that is pure sex

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100826 No. 100826 ID: 33cb6b hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Percussion/caplock firearms.
An advancement in ignition systems far more reliable than flintlocks and less sensitive to moisture, a brass hat with a dab of friction-sensitive explosive like mercury fulminate inside that, when struck by the weapon's hammer, sends a jet of flame down the nipple it is over into the main charge of the firearm.
Here is the Derringer percussion pistol that John Wilkes Booth used to assassinate President Abraham Lincoln. The assassination took place at Ford's theater in Washington D.C. on Good Friday, April 14th, 1865. http://tincanbandit.blogspot.com/2014/06/historys-most-notorious-guns.html
Spelled Deringer in this example, Henry Deringer made large caliber short barreled pistols starting in the 1830s and the style were known as Derringers.
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Time to pop some caps.

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99822 No. 99822 ID: 33cb6b hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Black powder firearm dump.
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