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99147 No. 99147 ID: 8dff99 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo. I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your fucking life to a hellish end. I’ll put you in so much fucking pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a fuck how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many fucking guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll fucking show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a fucking heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my fucking car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great fuckng length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a
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>> No. 99149 ID: c5ecc5
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Welcome to OpChan. You must be new here.

Please, tell us a little something about yourself.
>> No. 99150 ID: 8effed
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>gorilla warfare
I guess that's part of the joke.
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Always has been
>> No. 99223 ID: 938a21
Would /t/ be the best spot for this?
>> No. 99227 ID: 86bd72
The BEST spot would be the rubbish bin.

But /t/ would be more suitable than here.

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98952 No. 98952 ID: f13f5f hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What firearms were available back then for civilians? What was considered affordable for a middle class person? What firearms were considered cheap and expensive? What was being imported?

What firearms were NOT available back then, besides ones that weren't invented yet? Were there many Mosins and SKS rifles available to civilians?

How prohibitive were the NFA tax stamps?

Besides the ones from WW1 & 2, what full/semi-automatic long guns were around on the civilian market? Were there semi-auto or even select-fire M14s being sold to civilians? What about people making Garand to BM59 conversions, or making them take BAR magazines?

...If you had to build a paramilitary force using only what was legal to a civilian before 1965, what would you arm them with?
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>> No. 99004 ID: f13f5f
Given that there was an ad for an MP44 for like $50 in a gun rag from the 50s, I assume the $200 tax was not as absurdly expensive 30 years later.

How common were battle rifles in America back then? Tanker Garands/BM59s, FN FALs, G3s and CETME rifles?
>> No. 99005 ID: d4c8ee
I'd hazard "probably not too common" considering they would have been standard issue rifles at the time.
>> No. 99050 ID: b93a55
As per Ian, G3's were first imported as "G3's" in the early 60's, later redesigned (lower and trigger pack) later on after GCA to HK41 and then 91.
Civvie G3's from HK may actually predate the first for civilian manufacture M-14's

Any FAL at that time would be a FN, no CETME's or BM59's until they were removed from primary service with their respective nations
>> No. 99061 ID: 7c3c05
This. The M1 Carbine was the Evil Black Rifle of the 1950s-60s, for American civilians, anyway. Just as with AR15s, there were lots of companies, some big, some small, making Carbine clones of quality varying from excellent to "vaguely gun-shaped object."

Back when commercial repro M1 Carbines were inexpensive, and a few of them were decent quality, and surplus mags and ammo were plentiful and cheap... and as an added bonus, once upon a time, back before 1980 or so, every other vendor at gun shows was selling the full auto conversion parts. Not that I'd know anything about that, of course.
>> No. 99202 ID: a63d08
The tax stamp also cost $200 back then. They never adjusted it for inflation so nfa stuff is actually cheaper now.

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98107 No. 98107 ID: b89631 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
These are cute rifles that don't get enough attention, which is a shame. Comparing them to the AR platform, they have a few advantages and disadvantages:

+ Folding stock
This one is personally a huge favorite over the AR platform. Though the stock folding doesn't make the 550 short enough to really have a difference, shorter variants like the 553 really benefit from it, and even the 550 stows that much easier. The stock is pretty confortable, which is less common for a folder, and easily locks into place, and the action is perfectly designed to allow firing while folded. Compared to an AK triange or underfolder, its light years ahead, but to a 10X series polymer underfolder, i imagine its similar. Either way, its my first positive interaction with a folding stock, which I'm happy with.

+ Adjustable gas system
This is pretty basic, but unlike an AR, sigs have a key at the front of their gas system so you can flip from standard to "balls cold/wasn't issued cleaning kit" setting. Being into milsurp, I really like adjustable gas systems, as a lot of eary self-loaders tend to be finicky (SVT, G43) or very overgassed for modern ammo (M1, AG42(ymmv)) or even period ammo (SVT, G43, G43, G43), necessitating an aftermarket drop in for the garand/g43, but working fine for the fn49, svt, rasheed, etc. Honestly, its not a terribly useful feature with the consistency in .223 pressure, and since its 2 setting, you couldn't say, turn down the standard pressure for running a can, without drilling a third hole, but you could conceivably turn the gassing up for running tulammo (why would you buy a fucking 4k msrp rifle to run the shittiest fucking shit ammo???) or perhaps subsonic ammo but I haven't tried that. Still, a nice-to-have, and who knows, in 50-100 years .223 may be loaded significantly hotter like how wwii calibers are today.

Editors note: Someone with a 556 (not real Sig) has found need for gas system adjustment here http://www.sigarms556.com/threads/my-sig-556-is-denting-almost-a-cutting-every-case.12615/page-2

+ Integral bipod
Wow this thing is handy. AR bipods as far as I've seen have been ugly and ruin your ability to comfortably hold the rifle when folded as they stick out far below the rifle. The 550 bipod feels a natural evolution of the ZFK55 bipod. Its slender, and folds well and out of the way by the handguard. While holding the handguard, the bipod does not inhibit your grip. It easily folds down for use, and unlike the AR bipods Ive seen, is mounted on a spindle, allowing you to plop the rifle down on an uneven surface and still get the sights straight without adjustment. I love it and, as a primarily prone shooter, would buy this rifle just for this feature being done right.

+ Trigger and safety
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>> No. 98585 ID: 86d09e

More or less just confirming what you said, since some people might've read it as pure praise. :)

That said, if you're a perfectionist, the Sig 55X family is not for you. While the workmanship and tolerances are great on the important parts, the finish isn't all that beautiful and the design is that of a war rifle, not a safe queen.
>> No. 98587 ID: 98c1a2
Aight yeah it really reads like praise. Let me clarify further.

>those tolerances
Are excessive. Even in the closest running fits listed in the Machinery's Handbook, +/-0.0001" to +/-0.0002 is kinda just mental and there would be no operating difference if the tolerance was +/-0.001", or five to ten times more slack. The holes that these parts go into are 0.005" over the piston/bolt body diameter, and having those +0.002"/-0.000 (unilateral) would prevent any harmful tolerance stacking and maintain part clearance for the close running fit.

A human hair is 0.003" thick on average. The tolerance range for those parts was in the order of the thickness of a human hair spliced TWENTY TIMES IN THICKNESS. Stop the madness. A rifle made with tolerances ten times more loose would operate exactly the same; the difference in the parts on our everyday scale is just too small to change anything. The headspace range for 5.56x45 is (IIRC) around 0.003", so even with looser tolerances, you could probably safely exchange bolts between rifles with no real difference.

You might say "but CNC machines these days have no trouble being that accurate" and I'll reply that even with the highest quality and most accurate CNCs, that isn't so simple for mass production (the machine is fine, but the tool wears, the machine warms up/cools down, tool deflection factors between roughing, finishing, etc). To get parts that consistent all the time all day every day, you're going to need to have more machining operations that take time and money, and you're going to be replacing cutting tip inserts (each over 15 bucks each, it adds up) very often, better measuring equipment, and more qualified personnel.

Knowing how much precision in the manufacturing is required to make something good is a complicated thing, and often marks the line between a good engineer and a lazy one. A lazy one throws ridiculous tolerances around because he can't or won't be bothered to figure out how much is really needed.

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Thanks for posting those numbers, really interesting to see.

BTW, anyone here know how many mags Swiss soldiers get issued? During service, not take home I mean. The size of the two mag pouches makes me think 5?
>> No. 98955 ID: 818111

Regarding tolerances, "this".

Had a few circumstances where the "+/- .005"" tolerance bit people in the ass, when the thing they had to fit was made with "sane" tolerances for the application.
>> No. 99063 ID: ee4984
According to someone who spends many times in Schwitzerlande, they has 5 Mags.

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98897 No. 98897 ID: eabf9e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
With all the issues that plagued EoTechs in the military lately, are they still worth buying for non-mil/LE use? I have a chance to buy a 512 for $370 new w/ shipping. I'm thinking of putting it on my cheaper AR to see how both hold up.

I already own 2 Aimpoints (one on an AK, one on an AR) and I just want to try something different.

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>> No. 98927 ID: 86d09e
Given the abundance of issues which people complain about online, I wouldn't bother with it when you can get an Aimpoint PRO fairly cheaply.

Of course, there's plenty of other options.
>> No. 98947 ID: 52ed6e
I own an early red dot, the Weaver Qwik Point. It uses ambient light to light up a fiber optic strand that is bounced through some mirrors so it appears as a dot in the scope. It basically only works if you're outside on a decently bright day.

There's also that other one that uses a fiber optic strand that requires you leave both eyes open to use.
>> No. 98953 ID: c718fb
The Eotech issue was pretty overblown, everyone went from being happy with them to suddenly unhappy because they can experience a zero shift after going between temperature extremes. I prefer everything about them to an Aimpoint aside from weight and battery life.
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I'd save up another $50-$75 for a Trijicon MRO personally. It's functionally the same as the aimpoint but it satisfies that "different" thing with the better field of view. The reticle is nice on the Eotech but they're so heavy and bulky.

I bought an MRO for waifu to keep it small and simple and it is absolutely awesome. Just a teeny tiny featherweight freshly cleaned window of death in an Alamo 4 Star DLOC mount. Totally blows my former Aimpoint PRO out of the water.

I actually snagged a super duper ultra insanely cheap clearance sidewalk sale 518.2 + magnifier combo the other week. I really thought about keeping it for a cheap trunk gun. I could live with the battery life but at the end of the day I just couldn't get over the weight and ended up doubling my money on Ebay.
>> No. 98993 ID: b931ed


Yeah, L3's refusal to properly address the battery compartment issue for over a decade is totally overblown. It was just bad electromechanical design but they refused to listen to the input of thousands of people over it, besides some of the other relatively minor issues they had.

Sucks imo, because I always liked the reticle. Fun on the range, I personally don't trust my life to them. I know some do and continue to, that's cool.

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98705 No. 98705 ID: 3f5192 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Came across this interesting piece, it functions just as strangely as it looks.

All I know is it's a single shot chambered in .22 Flobert. There's literally nothing on it as far as make/model/serial. Nothing stamped or engrave on it at all beside the decorative engraving and checkering.

I'm assuming it's a gallery gun, however I've never seen one as fancy as this. Perhaps a french hunting rifle for those tiny birds they eat?

Any info is appreciated. I can't dig up anything, don't even know where to start.
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>> No. 98967 ID: 050b51
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>> No. 98968 ID: 050b51
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Combustible paper cartridges for the .44 Remington 1858.
>> No. 98969 ID: 050b51
  Making the Civil War time paper cartridge box for percussion revolvers https://youtu.be/Chai_DxkEpk
"Everything here was manufactured by real humans, not machines."
Bigot! Such discriminatory language!
>> No. 98970 ID: 050b51
  Making paper cartridge for percussion revolver - combustible envelope cartridge https://youtu.be/-2HUcfAyaaQ
>> No. 98971 ID: 050b51
  Paper cartridges my way for 44 cap and ball https://youtu.be/15O4yYu7i7Y

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98758 No. 98758 ID: dbae23 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
I've found a little gunstore a few hours from my house and they actually had a catalog to view.

So I'm asking you guys in your infinite wisdom, do any of these seem like a good deal I should jump on?
>> No. 98766 ID: 86d09e
What's with the supercheap pistols on the second page?
>> No. 98767 ID: dbae23
No idea, I've never been to the store and since it's over 2 hours from my house I'd like an opinion about their selection. The Gander mountain in Watertown has an FB Vis for $400 that I thought about too.

In New York when you buy a handgun you get this faggy little stamp you need to turn into the place that issued your license before you can actually own the firearm. Just NYs little way of trying to dis-incentivize gun-ownership.
>> No. 98777 ID: 2dac75
The $617 HiPoint .380 makes me think that this catalog isn't accurate.
>> No. 98806 ID: a615a8
If you're a revolver guy, the Colt Trooper and the S&W 15 look like they might be worth looking at. The Glock 42s are used, I'm guessing, but under $200 is a good price if you need a tiny .380 backup gun. If you're a 1911 guy, that's not a horribly bad price for a Kimber Custom II, though I know Kimber's rep for quality control is kind of spotty. I am wondering about the four top entries on the second page and wonder if they might be typos.

Nothing else jumps out at me as a great bargain, and when I see $575 for a Hi-Point on the same list as $198 for a Glock then I have to wonder. Something's screwy here. You might want to call and confirm pricing on anything that appeals to you before making the trip.
>> No. 98810 ID: 9dcda2
Or it's the bargain of the century.

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98769 No. 98769 ID: f04314 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
BOOF, does your Webley–Fosbery Self-Cocking Automatic Revolver chamber .38 ACP or .38 S&W?

I have read these chambering either (van they chamber both??). These 8-shot pistols are stamped .38 Automatic (the ones not stamped .455 Cordite or .45 Auto Revolver, I mean), but which .38? Wikipedia says .38 ACP, but the military .38 S&W cartridge was later used by the British as the .38-200 cartridge in their .38 Webley revolvers.

The Webley–Fosbery revolver was initially made in .455 calibre for the British service cartridge, and later in .38 ACP. While the .455 version had a standard 6-round cylinder, the .38 high velocity (.38 Colt ACP) version had eight chambers and could be loaded by a circular full-moon clip. The .38 version had a shorter cylinder, and thus shorter recoil stroke. Some were made with the short frame in .455 calibre. A variety of modifications led to the production of 6 different models, Marks I through VI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley%E2%80%93Fosbery_Automatic_Revolver

This Webly-Fosbery is described as chambering .38 S&W.
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>> No. 98785 ID: 3f5192
Haven't checked. Never plan on shooting it so I've never chambered anything in it.

I don't even know if I have either of those rounds laying around. If I find some I'll report back. I'm assuming it's .38ACP because the cylinder is cut for speed loaders that don't look like they'd work for the larger rim on the .38SW
>> No. 98788 ID: f04314
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Lord Ian from Forgotten Weapons states the .38 version loads .38 ACP, so that's probably the one.
And the cartridge clips look like throwing-stars. The Prideaux speed-loader is a really sweet gizmo for the Webley-Fosbery.
- Webley-Fosbery cutaway view (note full-moon clip for cartridges in .38 ACP caliber)
>> No. 98789 ID: f04314
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The Webley-Fosbery was available in two different cartridges; .455 and .38. It is often assumed that the .38 caliber guns used .38-200 (aka .38 S&W) ammunition, because this was the round used in standard .38 caliber Webley revolvers – but that assumption is incorrect. The .38-200 was not adopted by the British military until the 1920s, while the .38 ACP was a hot new item in the American market, having been introduced in 1900. It was this .38 ACP round that was used by the smaller caliber Webley-Fosberys, using 8-round moon clips (see cutaway diagram above). The design of those moon clips was a bit different than what we are used to seeing today, with a pointed spiral sort of shape. You can see the cut-out area in the cylinder for the clips in this factory nickel-plated example:
>> No. 98791 ID: f04314
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Drake has a Prideaux Loader that he uses with his Webleys.
>> No. 98792 ID: f04314
  Prideaux loader https://youtu.be/WDaFBDsCg_E
A hands on look at the Prideaux Loader, one of the very first speedloader ever developped

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97931 No. 97931 ID: 798a48 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Well, the Chief's Special is going into the safe for the foreseeable future. After renewing my range membership and seeing that most of their defensive handgun classes didn't allow IWB holsters, I had some thoughts about draw/presentation, and maybe getting a hammerless or shrouded J-frame that was still full steel.

But after thinking about how much I liked my P238 when I still had it, I ended up buying a P938 with a date of manufacture from last month, because I wanted a little more capacity and a bigger caliber than 380.

At this point I'm not sure whether to stick with pocket carry i.e. DeSantis Nemesis, or if I should look into other options. I was recommended Alien Gear for kydex options at the shop I purchased from.
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Specifications: Beretta Pico

Caliber: .380 ACP (barrel swap to run .32 ACP)
Capacity: 6+1
Barrel Length: 2.7″
Overall Length: 5.1″
Height: 3.94″
Width: 0.725″ (18mm)
Weight: 11.5 oz with unloaded magazine
Sights: 3-Dot
Trigger: Double Action Only (DAO). 12.25 lbs as tested
MSRP: $398 (I have seen retailers list it for as low as $325 thus far) http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/11/jeremy-s/gun-review-beretta-pico/
>> No. 98762 ID: f04314
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Hitting distributor shelves now is the slimmest .380 ACP pistol on the market, the Beretta Pico. At its widest point — across the ambi mag release paddle — my caliper pegs it at 18.5mm (0.728″), while the rest of the lilliputian pocket gun comes in at or under 18mm. Despite the tiny dimensions and the light 11.5 oz weight, which includes an empty magazine, the Pico is rated for +P ammo just like its older and slight larger 9mm brother, the Nano. Of course, making the smallest pistol out there can require compromises, and my Pico did experience some growing pains…
>> No. 98763 ID: f04314
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Ratings (Out of Five Stars):

Accuracy: * * *
A bit better than average for me from a rest, but a bit worse than average on the range.

Ergonomics: * * *
With any micro pistol there are going to be concessions here. The Pico excels in concealability and carry ergonomics — rounded corners, nothing poky or rough — but is hurt by the difficult-to-rack slide with little gripping assistance and the short trigger reach.

Reliability: * * *
I’m confident that the pistol will continue to run with 100% reliability for me more or less indefinitely now that the “extra” recoil spring has been removed. Of course, it didn’t run out of the box or as designed. An “average” rating may seem generous, but compared to other mouse guns I actually feel quite solid on the Pico’s ability here.

Trigger: * *
Not good.

Customize This: * * * * *
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>> No. 98764 ID: f04314
  Gun Review: Beretta Pico
Published on Nov 4, 2014 https://youtu.be/7GRutRlbTW4
Tabletop & Shooting Review of Beretta's new micro compact pocket pistol mouse gun, the Pico! Chambered in .380 ACP or, with just a barrel swap, .32 ACP. Plus a bit of comparison to the Nano and the Taurus TCP.
>> No. 98765 ID: f04314
  Beretta Pico - hickok45 https://youtu.be/-XjYtISS08U

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98483 No. 98483 ID: dda126 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I wanna go Truglo TFX om my G19 and G26. I've never dicked around with the stock sights before. What do I need to know to not fudd this up? Is there a better/cheaper option?
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>> No. 98496 ID: bec165
A consistent draw / press out trumps having a giant dot (that will often obscure distant targets). The fastest shooters in the world usually use all black sights.

These are what I use on my Glock.

>The front sight features the same slope angle as the rear sight making for a crisp tip to focus on during combat engagements.

>The antiglare serrated front makes sight acquisition fast and clear when shooting in natural or artificial light.

>The .215 tall front and rear sight allow the shooter to engage targets from 0-100 meters without changing the point of aim. Exactly what is needed when shooting in high threat situations under stress. Combat shooting requires excellent shot placement, not complex mathematical problems of holds or lollypoping.

>At .125 wide the front post is super fast to find during combat shooting and only covers a minimal amount of the target when shooting at range making it easy to find center and guarantee good shot placement even at extreme ranges!

>Our .60 Tritium filled vial is perfectly positioned as high up on the front post as possible providing a great reference point during low light conditions.
>> No. 98519 ID: dda126
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come on guys, pls more bright sights suggestions!
>> No. 98520 ID: 012a6b
What do you want us to say?fiber can fall out and gets dirty and dull with use.
>> No. 98521 ID: 9dcda2
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I go with the Trijicon standard 3-dot sights, all green.


I prefer the straight rear sights, ones where you can rack the gun on your belt or boot if needed.

Meprolight also makes pretty decent sights. I've used them on other people's guns with good results.


I don't really care for fibre optics, stacked 8's, Big Dot sights or any of the others.
>> No. 98754 ID: a615a8
What I use on my Glock 17:

stock rear sight with white outline

front sight turned around backwards and painted fluorescent orange

Seriously. It works better in more lighting conditions than you'd think. It used to be nearly standard on duty revolvers--back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and fullsize 4" revolvers in .357 Mag were cop guns and not curosities--and it's both cheap and decent.

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98552 No. 98552 ID: 5a0b76 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I'm packing up from California because I have had enough of this state.

My family and I are gona be taking a break from normal respectable living and traveling in an RV across the country while we visit far flung friends and family.
I need to know what kinda carrying restrictions I'm gona face on the road. I only plan to pack a .22lr rifle, as it is all I own, but may have a pistol of some variety pressed upon me by my overly concerned farther. I don't have a CC if that makes much deference.

So traveling while armed general thread. Tips or advice to keep my firearms secure as well as staying out of trouble with the law should I get pulled over for any reason. If mods want to move this to /t/ feel free to.
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>> No. 98577 ID: c1c101
For the most part, without a valid CCW, you will not be legal to have a loaded firearm, especially a loaded handgun, on your person or within your reach (basically within the passenger compartment) anywhere you go. For the most part. Definitely supply us with your route, though, to get the most accurate and complete answers.
>> No. 98584 ID: 5a0b76
The current route is gona be a detour through Nevada and Arizona over to New Mexico to visit family. Maybe even all the way to TX for more family visiting, then back tracking and going through Oregon up into WA and fight the good fight of making a free-er Cascadia

There MAY be more traveling after that but we gotta see how other things work out

From what I've read I should be gtg if I keep my rifle unloaded in the back of the RV with the ammo in a separate storage box.
>> No. 98611 ID: 86ccb5
Last I looked it up for CA, NM, AZ, and TX, you're supposed to notify local law enforcement such as sheriff that you are moving guns through the area, even as a private citizen simply on vacation. However, nobody does that and its unenforceable by any agency.

So, if you follow the letter of the law under CA rule, they're nowhere near your person, unloaded, locked in a compartment other than the glove box or center console, and ammo is locked separate from the guns, you probably won't run into any trouble. However, if you're not a dingus, you won't (a.) get pulled over or (b.) give reason for the cop to search your RV and find guns you [probably] shouldn't be transporting across state lines. Use your noggin, be a prudent and responsible person, and you won't have any problems.

RVs are common burglary sites because when people are away from them, its to fight off cabin fever and they're out for a few hours. Its why I'd recommend a locked compartment, bolted permanently out of sight to the structure of the RV. Just how many guns do you plan on taking with you?

Since its CA, you might consider selling some at the CA premium prices, and buying them new later when you settle at a lower price than your used guns. (unless you have common on-roster shit)
>> No. 98622 ID: 460569
Friendly reminder that when Trump wins, he plans to make CCW universal across all states.
>> No. 98728 ID: 6e521e
Not without moving legislation through Congress, obtaining a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

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