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108015 No. 108015 ID: 8d1998 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
I've had a recent talk with someone and it has effected me that I've done a complete 180 on the need for State level regulation of automatic weapons from being fully against to in full support of specific regulations. Think of our children.

Picture most definitely related. Seriously, I highlighted it and everything so I'd look at it.
>> No. 108047 ID: 5c87e8
you see the other loophole on that one is that where the constitution of the government united states, it's very being and soul, opens with "we the people" so when the law claims a right to do such and such to place the government above the law as in this case an claims that right for "the united states" they're claiming that for you. you're part of the united states, you're one of us "we the peoples".
it is also nice to note that the people who composed that legislation way back when were educate and skilled enough to obey the no ipso facto claws (rawr) and allow current owners to keep their legal full auto guns. the people trying to ban hi capacity mags don't seem to be as educated, they have a "turn them in" mentality.
>> No. 108048 ID: e56201
>>108047
>no ipso facto claws
Do you mean Ex Post Facto? It's one of my pet peeves when people bring that up in discussions of gun bans. It just means they can't punish you for the act of having bought a gun (or whatever) that was legal at the time you bought it. It doesn't mean they can't criminalize possession of it going forward. It's a pretty simple distinction and people get it wrong ALL THE DAMN TIME.
>> No. 108049 ID: 7ba92e
  Yes, ex post facto (retroactive) criminal laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws). Ex post facto laws are allowed in civil matters, administrative laws, or in criminal matters that do not strictly create a punishment, such as in Smith v. Doe (2003) that forcing sex offenders to register their whereabouts at regular intervals, and the posting of personal information about them on the Internet, do not violate the constitutional prohibition against ex post facto laws, because "these laws do not impose any kind of punishment".

BUT... ex post facto laws may apply to gun possession rights. In the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, where firearms prohibitions were imposed on those convicted of misdemeanor domestic-violence offenses and on subjects of restraining orders (which do not require criminal conviction). These individuals can now be sentenced to up to ten years in a federal prison for possession of a firearm, regardless of whether the weapon was legally possessed when the law was passed. The law has been legally upheld because it is considered regulatory, not punitive; it is a status offense. United States v. Emerson, 270 F.3d 203 (5th Cir. 2001). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Emerson

In criminal law, ex post facto laws criminalize actions that were legal when committed; it may aggravate a crime by bringing it into a more severe category than it was in when it was committed; it may change the punishment prescribed for a crime, as by adding new penalties or extending sentences; or it may alter the rules of evidence in order to make conviction for a crime likelier than it would have been when the deed was committed. Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly called an amnesty law may decriminalize certain acts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law https://youtu.be/-RZrFWOVugY
>> No. 108050 ID: 7b08d9
>>108049
>sentenced to up to ten years
>fnord
>not punitive
>> No. 108051 ID: 7ba92e
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>>108050
Yeah, I provided the case and citation because people just might not believe that one! A person that has legally purchased firearms but later was charged with (not necessarily convicted) misdemeanor domestic abuse or had a restraining order placed on him better get rid of all of his guns immediately because if he is caught in possession of even a previously legally-obtained firearm, it means ten years in prison. This may be a tactic for using a restraining order to get a spouse or other person arrested for gun possession.

If I remember right, keeping your illegal weapons at a relative's or friend's house (or a storage locker) until your case is adjudicated may not be good enough as the courts may see you are still in constructive possession of the weapons because of your easy access to them.

Here's the whole appellate decision: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1332436.html


No. 108006 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
  Trying to decide which Schofield to get.

https://www.uberti-usa.com/top-break-revolver

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-revolvers/schofield-revolvers.html
>> No. 108008 ID: 99ee22
I've always wanted a No.3 Russian but it also looks uncomfortable as fuck to hold/fire.

Would anyone here happen to know why the Russians wanted it with that weird spury thing?
>> No. 108010 ID: 9dcda2
>>108008
Apparently it works really well.

https://youtu.be/JdwPvD8JZ84?t=2141
>> No. 108011 ID: 9dcda2
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>>108010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdwPvD8JZ84&feature=youtu.be&t=2333

"Like fighting a squirrel that doesn't want to cuddle." - Othias 2018


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107765 No. 107765 ID: f66077 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
>guns for me but not for thee
sad
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>> No. 107989 ID: 6da2ca
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>>107988
>the banks just going to take a hit
lol
>> No. 107990 ID: 738b31
>>107988
Don't know. That's probably why we don't hear anything about it outside of campaigns for elections. My personal thought is that if we could somehow de-fuck how expensive medical care is in this country, there would be plenty of money freed up to at least think about tackling other problems.
I had to have blood work for allergies done not to long ago. One blood draw, one 15 minute doctor visit, and one lab analysis is costing me just shy of $1k, and that is with health insurance. It's not even cheap health insurance.
>> No. 107991 ID: 78adc8
>>107990
Wow. I have bloodwork done every 6 months for my thyroid medication, but they also test 4 other things. It only costs me like $41, and that's with no insurance... God damn dude, you might want to talk to another doc.
>> No. 107992 ID: 20f3d2
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When going to get tests, make sure that your insurance covers them (in-network labs)!
How A Urine Test After Back Surgery Triggered A $17,850 Bill
Urine drug testing has exploded over the past decade amid alarm over rising opioid overdose deaths. Many doctors who prescribe the pills rely on the urine tests to help reduce drug abuse and keep patients with chronic pain safe. Yet the tests have become a cash cow for a burgeoning testing industry, and critics charge that unneeded and often expensive ones are sometimes ordered for profit rather than patient care. Doctors can decide whether to test patients who take opioids for short periods, such as after an operation. Moreno's surgeon would not discuss her urine test — why he ordered it and why the sample was tested for so many substances.

Three experts contacted by Kaiser Health News questioned the need for such extensive testing and were shocked to hear of the lab's prices. They said these tests rarely cost more than $200, and typically much less, depending on the complexity and the technology used. Some doctors' offices use a simple cup test, which can detect several classes of drugs on the spot and could be purchased for about $10. Bills can climb higher when labs run tests to detect the quantity of specific drugs and bill for each one, as the lab did here.

The experts said the lab's prices for individual tests were excessive, such as charging $1,700 to check for amphetamines or $425 to identify phencyclidine, an illegal hallucinogenic drug also known as PCP. They also criticized a charge of $850 for two tests to verify that her urine sample had not been adulterated or tampered with.

Moreno's insurer, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Texas, refused to pay any of the bill, arguing that the lab was out of network and thus not covered. Had it chipped in, it would have covered the service at $100.92, according to an explanation of benefits the insurance company sent to Moreno.

Sunset Labs says its list prices were "in line" with its competitors in the area. It also said doctors treating pain agree extensive urine testing is "the best course of action" and that a lab "is not in the position" to question tests ordered by a doctor.

Resolution: Fearing damage to his daughter's credit rating, Moreno's father, Dr. Paul Davis, paid the lab $5,000 to settle the bill in April 2017. A retired doctor, he also has filed a formal complaint about the bill with the Texas attorney general's office, accusing the lab of "price gouging of staggering proportions." The lab's attorney said he was not aware of the complaint. A Texas attorney general's spokesperson confirmed to KHN that the office had received complaints about the lab but declined further comment.

The takeaway: When a physician asks for a urine or blood sample, always ask what it&#
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>> No. 108003 ID: 764560
>>107775
they weren't, but you certainly are. If I owned a range these dirtbags, blac bloc, Klansmen, NatSoc, and any other loonies sure as shit wouldn't be allowed. I don't care about your politics but I'm not letting hate groups of either left or right stripe on my range. The last fucking thing any owner needs is two opposing groups of these chuckle fucks to show up at the same time and change the range from one directional to omni-directional due to /pol/ tier retardation about which system of oppression is better.


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107741 No. 107741 ID: 685129 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1SIGP220&name=LEO+Trade-In+SIG+SAUER+P220+.45+AUTO+Handgun&groupid=12866&fprdct=1

I already own 3 .45s (SA 1911, M&P Midsize, Shield 45) and reload for it. Mags aren't too pricey and easy to come by. I see mixed reviews on the trigger but it would be something different in the collection. Thoughts for the price?
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>> No. 107979 ID: 20f3d2
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>>107978
>How did anyone ever get by with 7 or 8 rounds?
The curt answer to that old question of low-capacity firearms is to just be a more accurate shot and you won't need so many bullets on hand.

But having more shots in your magazine is really handy seeing how fast 7-shot pistols like the P.220 and Colt M1911 go dry. And, as I have stated before, I prefer the feel of double-column .45s like the Tanfoglio Witness to this. Some people say that double-column .45 pistol grips feel like holding the wrong end of a baseball bat and much prefer the feel of the single-columns and will tolerate the lower capacity of the magazine.

- A German SIG-Sauer P220 .45 ACP 7-round zipperback magazine. The greed-head selling this wants $45 and $3 shipping for this. WTF?
>> No. 107981 ID: f5c3ed
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>>107978
>The trigger on the other hand...
I like it. Something different in my collection.
>> No. 107993 ID: 24ced3
>>107978
Lrn2guns. How did millions of cops, soldiers, and gunfighters get by with only six shots for over a century?

Front sight, press. Repeat as needed.
>> No. 107994 ID: 9dcda2
  >>107993
> How did millions of cops, soldiers, and gunfighters get by with only six shots for over a century?

We used leaded gasoline for a long time too.
>> No. 107997 ID: 20f3d2
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Revolvers!
Mauser BK-27 aircraft revolver cannon from Czech Air Forces’ JAS-39 Gripen.


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107440 No. 107440 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Now legal in Maryland. I get to pick it up next week. (7 day waiting period.)
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>> No. 107967 ID: 9dcda2
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>>107939
The inside is ribbed. I don't know what the telltale signs of MIM are, but that kinda looks like Direct Metal Laser Sintering to me.
>> No. 107968 ID: bbee29
>>107967
>laser sintering
I'll have to disagree. That's not exactly a part with complicated internal geometry so there's a lot of reasons why laser sintering would not be ideal.

Looks more like MIM where they made the part simple to mold out by making it solid (no internal features), then made the internal features with a drilling operation or whatever needed after. From the smaller deeper hole, looks very clearly like a drill hole, then there's a larger diameter and less deep internal shoulder, done with either a counterbore or just an endmill (possibly another drill, hard to judge angle of shoulder from here, it could be a 135 degree tip or something). As it's an internal feature that isn't normally visible so they'd just feed harder to reduce cycle time so would likely leave marks like that.

Still, it's hard to say for sure. It's possible that it's sintering, I just think it's unlikely.
>> No. 107969 ID: 9dcda2
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What's funnier is what this looks like in real life.
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>> No. 107980 ID: 6da2ca
Well this is at least quality information. Thanks OP.


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107778 No. 107778 ID: 584748 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Other than the cost of ammunition and having to use 6.8 magazines instead of 5.56 magazines, is there any benefit to using 5.56 over .224 Valkyrie at any range? I have to assume with a 6.5" twist barrel to stabilize the heavier 90 grain pills, Valkyrie would be a better terminal performer from every barrel length and at every range to go along with the much ballyhoo'd external ballistics it boasts. Is the lower magazine capacity the only other downside?

If the trend in 5.56 ARs over the last decade or so has been toward longer, heavier bullets for greater terminal effectiveness in shorter barrels, wouldn't a Valkyrie be better at that too?
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>> No. 107899 ID: a090f7
Yeah. 5.56 is more plentiful.
>> No. 107960 ID: 6b2b62
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107960
I want 277 Wolverine to gain some traction. Supposedly close to 6.8 SPC in terms of performance with only a barrel change required. No special brass or mags, easily formed from .223 unlike the more difficult to form 300 BO.
>> No. 107961 ID: 6b2b62
  Second bullet is good bullet.
>> No. 107962 ID: 6b2b62
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.277_Wolverine
>> No. 107963 ID: 6b2b62
  Only 8" barrel.


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106706 No. 106706 ID: 19518e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
There's a machine gun thread a while ago but I felt like I should start a specific thread for firearms fed by belts.

Mostly because of this MG34 that followed me home.

Since this really is the first rifle of this type that I've had to play with, I'm a little out of my element. This is a TNW semi-auto only 7.92x57 and I wouldn't mind learning everything I can about this particular piece.
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>> No. 107902 ID: 1ee05f
>>107797
nice finish. considered crawling your feed to make it even better?
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107903
Waiting on getting my 34 from TNW on a brand new build. Hopefully it works out of the box, but I've seen enough issues with other people's that probably won't be the case.

In my case I intend on immediately converting it to shoot .308 because 8mm ain't cheap anymore. Involved in the process is modifying the feed tray to accept a spacer for .308, a new barrel (slimmer profile for the recoil operation as .308 has less oomph than 8mm), a narrower booster cone, and a top cover feed pawl modification that is longer which puts pressure on the shorter .308 round (which can be used with 8mm too).

Will report back as to how the .308 conversion goes once I get it all set up.
>> No. 107905 ID: bbee29
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>>107902
Wasn't concerned about surface finish, just dimensions. It's not really visible from anywhere once inside the muzzle assembly so making it pretty was not a priority. Picture related, if you're worried about the surface finish while looking at this I'm afraid the autism is in terminal phase. Luckily if you are looking at it like this, you won't have to wait long for the euthanasia.

>double stamped 4
I'm terrible at stamping shit ffffffffff

>>107903
>8mm isn't cheap
I'm kinda torn. The 8mm is glorious and original, also from what I've heard, it'll be more reliable once my TNW is running well. But then there's the cheap .308 Win stuff. If it's reliable, shooting more would be fun, but I doubt it would run properly without a lot of work. I think that for now I'll stick to 8mm until all my current minor issues are sorted out despite the seductive cheapness of 308.

I know a guy with a legitimate full giggle MG34 (he's allowed to have it, horsecops please go and stay go), and he said we could compare MGs and I could measure/take notes on the original parts.
>> No. 107907 ID: faf462
>>107802
It's fucking cool that you got an MG34. I dig the slomo.

Buuuutt... just can't do semi-auto conversions of machine guns. Like a semi auto KRISS Vector, PS90, 1919, or Suomi. All would be amazing in full auto, but pretty pointless in semi.

I did shoot a semi auto MG42 some guy built out of a parts kit. I was amazed at how much it recoiled.
>> No. 107908 ID: bbee29
>>107907
I agree with you. If it wasn't for my unfortunate location, I don't think I'd have a belt-fed either, unless I was able to scrape up enough pennies for a full auto one.

That said, I disagree with your thoughts on the Kriss Vector. That gun is retarded in any configuration, and is by design a failed abortion that only has a completely flawed concept to begin with and space-pew-pew aesthetics to ride on. I can forever hear the tortured screaming of it's machine spirit, begging "kill me, it hurts to live".


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107795 No. 107795 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
The SCAR 20 is coming out. They're offering a limited edition package, but I think I'll wait for the production model.
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>> No. 107866 ID: faf462
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>>107864
From what I see on FNForums, a "6 bolt" receiver to barrel trunion mounting system, probably among other differences.

> if they put any work in hand-fitting and lapping the bolt to the barrel extension as you should on any precision rifle

I don't have anything to base this on, but I would not expect any hand fitting from a company like FN on a product like this. Probably tighter QC standards, but I don't think they'd pull out the Belgian gnomes for this one.
>> No. 107867 ID: faf462
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Versus the "4 bolt" mounting. This pic is from my 16, but the barrel on the 17 mounts up the same way.

And by the way, it does return to zero pretty well. Which I was slightly disappointed with since my aimpoint is cranked 3/4 the way to the right. That's right, it returns to zero, way off to one side.

(But then shoots great... so whatevs.)
>> No. 107869 ID: faf462
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Damn, back before the 16's receiver had been thrown into many a dump barrel.
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Here's my ACOG zeroed for my AR behind the reddot zeroed for the SCAR. The AR zero is probably pretty centered...
>> No. 107871 ID: 584748
>>107848
I guess in that sense the SCAR's gas system sorta represents the twin turbo 4-cylinder of the Ford Focus RS wherein it squeezes as much out of its input as possible but is very highly engineered and necessarily high-precision. Whereas the system I'm most familiar with is direct impingement or other more crude, higher volume or vented piston systems which is basically like an LS1 that is basically old, crude technology at its most refined that you can basically tune to do whatever you want. But it's always going to be less efficient for its output than the new hotness.

But maybe that's a dumb comparison.


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107749 No. 107749 ID: df967d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I was thinking about how video games often balance guns, and I got to thinking about the cartridges themselves. I found this, but it's too much damn information to digest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_handgun_and_rifle_cartridges

I was thinking more generally. Are pistol cartridges slower than rifle cartridges? If so, are the bell curves between pistol/rifle dramatic, or is there a bit of overlap? Again, speaking generally, is it fair to say that pistols have shorter effective ranges than other weapons (low velocity, thus range)?
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>> No. 107757 ID: bbee29
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Things that were meant to go in rifles most of the time suffer few constraints and as a result can be all sorts of shapes and sizes.
>> No. 107758 ID: bbee29
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Calibers and the firearms they go in really is a broad topic so this cursory overview is meant more to help you narrow your question if you want to know more.
>> No. 107759 ID: 55fdd6
  This is an old US Army training video on ballistics that might help shed some light on powder burn rate, pressure curve, barrel length, etc. A lot of it isn't relevant to your question but it helps explain why cartridges on the "pistol" end of the spectrum use smaller volumes of faster burning powder and shorter barrels and and cartridges on the "rifle" end of the spectrum use larger volumes of slower burning powder and longer barrels.
>> No. 107762 ID: 336722
  >>107759
If you're interested in old time .mil training videos, archive.org has them all available as high quality downloads. you don't need to stream them, you can make a big collection and stash them with your anime so you have something neat to watch if the internet dies. http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com has a lot of the old aircraft training films organized.
>altitude is your wealth
>> No. 107764 ID: 6b7cc9
>>107762
Just watched the P51 training video, good stuff.


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102299 No. 102299 ID: 09c7e0 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
ylyl /k/ edition go go go
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>>107704
absolutely solid dump, thank you for your contribution and for leading by example by being a good citizen of /k/
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>>107706
glad you enjoyed it
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