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106540 No. 106540 ID: 128ea0 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What kind of targets do you guys use to shoot with your various weapons at various ranges?
Feedback on serious & recreational targets are appreciated.

Personally, for 50m pistol shooting I just use the official ISSF 50 meter pistol targets. For pistol shooting at close to medium range (12.5-25m), I like a simple thick black cross on a white A4 (letter) format page. Because my pistols mostly have black target sights, the white paper with black cross contrasts a lot better than the black ISSF blob at shorter range.
The same black cross target also works well for static unmagnified rifle shooting at 50m, but at 100m without magnification it becomes tricky for me to even make out the cross.
For target shooting with scoped bolt guns, I tend to make targets with small circle targets with .25, .50, .75 & 1 MOA rings. I do 3 or 5 shot groups, and then use a website to calculate how well I did (because sometimes looks are deceiving).

Human shaped targets are illegal to use here. IPSC torso targets are the closest things we can have.

I also like the occasional "funshoot" like posted here. Just print two, and duel it out with a friend after making some clear rules depending on your shooting circumstances. (it's important to discuss what counts as a full hit or not)
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>> No. 106581 ID: 19518e
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For scopes in a target environment, I'm quite fond of these targets.
>> No. 106655 ID: 81429b
''The Void'' target...
>> No. 106657 ID: 19518e
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I've used this target with scoped rifles before, and the yellow line again forms a triangle point to really zero in on the smallest possible spot.

>The Australian "Void" target...

>"Pythagoras' Revenge" target
>Magus' "Dark Matter" tech attack target

You spurred me into downloading The Void. I do like me a frightening movie here and there, hopefully it isn't just cheap jump-scares.
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Using the BRNO pictured above in this thread, the stars aligned and five rounds were squeezed into such a shoot-n-see on a dead calm 200 yard range line.

it werks gud
>> No. 106660 ID: 30d556
I use these too.

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105879 No. 105879 ID: b19b57 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
solomon carter of horse lake mississippi, frequent poster on krautchan, ylilauta, circle/b/ros and /ck/, has purchased a deagle using his mom's credit card. as a part time minimum wage pizza delivery driver solomon needs to protect himself, but he doesn't earn enough money to buy his own weapon.
is this the best weapon for pizza delivery self defense?
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>> No. 105955 ID: 3a45c5
  Ruger LCP II https://youtu.be/2bC45tI26io
Would not feed SIG ammo well. Winchester and Speer worked fine.
>> No. 105957 ID: 8e9876
  Ruger LCP II https://youtu.be/D4x11YeGLYw
>> No. 106325 ID: 30d556
Odd. Mine does not seem to care what ammo you use in it, but I really need to pull the slide back all the way very hard.
>> No. 106389 ID: f1196c
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solomon carter at work in 2015
>> No. 106643 ID: fab486
  colonmon sharter

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106636 No. 106636 ID: c3b8cf hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Paging Bat Guano

What the hell is this? The owner of my new hangout took this in, but none of us has seen one before or know anything about it. Google turns up nothing. 9mm, single action only, has magazine disconnect, ambi thumb safety.

Century arms import, made by Nova Modul in Cugir, Romania.
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>> No. 106639 ID: bec165
Hm. Star Firestar clone. Interesting. Star made some pretty decent guns back in the day.
>> No. 106640 ID: c3b8cf
>Star Firestar clone

That's exactly what it is! Thanks!

I actually have a TTC, but I'm thinking about selling it since I got a Chinese Tokarev last year.
>> No. 106641 ID: a70f4c
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The Star Firestar is a series of single-action semi-automatic pistol consisting of four models that received the 1991 Handgun of the Year Award from Guns & Ammo magazine. The Firestar was available in 9 mm Para (M-43), .40 S&W (M-40), and .45 ACP(M-45) calibers, all having a single-stack magazine. A double-stack 9mm version (M-243) was also available and was commonly referred to by the unofficial name "Firestar Plus". The Firestar was produced by the now defunct Star Bonifacio Echeverria, S.A. in Eibar, Spain until 1994. The Firestar was imported into the United States by Interarms of Alexandria, Virginia.

Although its external appearance resembles a compact M1911, the Firestar is different in several respects. For example, the Firestar does not have the 1911's grip safety. The Firestar's safety features include an automatic safety at the firing pin (a feature not included in the 1911's original design but often found in more modern 1911 variants). The Firestar has operating procedures analogous to those of the Colt 1911: it is single action, and meant to be carried in Condition One (cocked and locked), with a cartridge in the chamber, cocked hammer and locked manual safety.

The Firestar is a compact, reliable and accurate handgun well-suited for backup or concealed carry. Its single-stack design sacrifices the superior magazine capacity of a double-stack, but permits a slim profile prized by many for concealed carry. While heavier than more modern handguns of comparable size made with today's composite materials, many shooters find the added heft provides a more stable shooting platform that improves accuracy.

On 6 May 2002 Volkert van der Graaf used the M43 to assassinate Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Firestar_M43
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Picture of a blued Star Firearms, M43 Firestar 9x19 pistol, with a Don Hume leather inside the waistband holster (Right handed), and, a few Winchester SXT 9x19 rounds.
>> No. 106651 ID: 19518e
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Since we're on Stars, anyone got a Megastar in 10mm?

I've heard they were good 10x25s but I've never seen a whole lot of information in-depth about them.

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106604 No. 106604 ID: dcea3a hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I guess I should post the new rifl*cough* I mean """pistol""" I built recently too since I haven't made any threads in so long. Still waiting on tax stamps so I can put a real stock on it and get my suppressor out of NFA jail though.
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>> No. 106618 ID: 988090
Woah, I have carbine gas system on my 10.5" how does it shoot with gas block set to I guess "normal"?
>> No. 106621 ID: dcea3a
The gas port is intentionally overgassed, this barrel is intended only to be used with an adjustable gas block. I have it set to just enough gas to lock the bolt back every time plus two clicks for reliability. Its kinda fun with barely enough gas to work though, you can feel the sproing like a 20" rifle.
>> No. 106632 ID: e72dd4
Kinda reminds of my SP1 troll build I'm working on. Rifle length gas port on a JP barrel chopped at 16'' with a regular A1 gas block. It needs a can to function.
>> No. 106633 ID: dcea3a
It actually runs really well even without a can, I have a couple thousand rounds through it now. The more retarded thing is the brake. Sounds like I'm shooting .50BMG, shoots a 2 foot fireball, and you can feel the shockwave in your sinuses if you're standing next to me. Unfortunately there is no flash hider mount for the can I got but at least it's effective as a brake lmao, combined with the adjustable gas system it recoils like .22lr. If it weren't a suppressor mount I would not put a brake on an 11.5" rifle.
>> No. 106647 ID: 19518e
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>braked short barrel 223/5.56 are ridiculous
can confirm

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106596 No. 106596 ID: dcea3a hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I decided to give the optics on a pistol meme a go
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>> No. 106617 ID: dcea3a
Hi bb, nice trigger.
>> No. 106622 ID: 128ea0
>This is a Strike One but it illustrates what I'm trying to say.

Should be noted that with the Stryk B they caved to market pressure and went with Glock style setup because people wanted "more options".
A bit of a shame, really. The backplate setup had a lot of advantages.

But it illustrates why Glock knockoff slides would want to stick to conventions.
>> No. 106629 ID: dcea3a
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There is this Balor mount that uses the back plate to mount a T2 and includes backup irons with a hilariously short sight radius.
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can i paly?
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Doesn't look too bad, though you can't get the optic as low as with a cut in the slide.

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hey operators, I've been thinking about my options for moving from my steel-framed CZ up to a polymer wondergun. however, part of why I've been such an autist about sticking with the CZ obsessively is that it lacks finger grooves, which just don't feel right for me.

obviously the Gen 5 Glocks lack these, but they have a poor aftermarket. Gen 2s are an option, as well. or I could always customize a later Gen Glock myself (or pay someone to do it for me). Arsenal has the Stryker but I am hesitant about that one for some reason. any other polymer guns I am missing?
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>> No. 106469 ID: 704636
As >>106458 said, the Gen 5 only has a small aftermarket since it's brand new. If you like Glocks, get one and backfill aftermarket parts as they're available if you must.

M&Ps are nice, but the hinging trigger sucks. I'd replace it with an Apex trigger just to get rid of the hinge, but the pull improvements are nice.

You could also try the CZ P10C. It's basically a better Glock, but with unknown reliability. My friend's runs fine, but other people have had problems. The best part is that you don't have to change anything (unless the grip texture tears your hands up, then a set of rubberized Talon grips will fix that).
>> No. 106470 ID: 1f8e9e
there's always the sarsilmaz st9 if you trust turkish kebab quality
>> No. 106472 ID: c3b8cf
I remember handling an Armalite AR-24 (i.e. a sarsilmaz CZ-75) at SHOT show years ago and somehow an unidentifiable tiny piece of black metal came loose from the interior of the gun and hit my shoe. I notified the nearest Armalite rep and then GTFO.
>> No. 106505 ID: 1f8e9e
OP here, got to actually handle a gen 5 Glock 17 today and yeah this gun is everything I've wanted Glock ergos to be for years. Fuck, now I have to actually budget for it.
>> No. 106520 ID: 5a365e
Nearly all aftermarket items are useless and you would be better served buying ammo. Holsters, mags, and sights are all you need.

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  For a modest price of 7500$ you too can see the legend come back to life!
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>> No. 103741 ID: 19518e
All those guns you mentioned are things that are already proven, all the plans and tooling are already done, to quote the post you linked to
"...riding a hundred year wave of Browning's legacy. 1911s are understood in every way"

All those manufacturers just have to make what is already made and do it with attention to detail and closer fits. It's like doing a cover of a song when everybody and their mothers have the music sheets and the instruments, SVI/les baer/everygucci1911brand just comes in, picks up the guitars and microphone, and plays the same old song.

The accuracy ends up being the same, but FK has to write a new song from scratch, that's the actually complicated and expensive part.

Yes their marketing is annoying as hell and going "wow we're amazing hitting stuff 100 yards nevah been dun befoh muh hydroquantumshox see we can use buzzwords too".
>> No. 103742 ID: 1989a8
Doesn't hydrostatic shock become relevant when the projectile goes above 2000 fps? FK only has 2000 fps at the muzzle though. On the other hand, it dropped an elk without vertebra damage which is very impressive if it wasn't staged.
>> No. 103743 ID: 19518e
I'm no terminal ballistician, but from what I understand "hydrostatic shock" is damage to some types of tissues and/or organs from a large enough temporary cavity caused by a projectile. The size of the temporary cavity is related to the projectile's weight, diameter, speed, upset (tumbling), expansion or fragmentation. This temporary cavity, if large and violent enough, can increase the trauma and physiological shock to the target beyond the permanent cavity. I remember reading theories of nervous system damage from this temporary cavity effect, but I can't say I know if it was speculation or confirmed by legitimate scientific process. I do imagine, all else being equal, a larger temporary cavity would probably hurt more but pain is an extremely unreliable factor in incapacitation of a creature at best.

12 gauge slugs are very large, heavy, made of soft lead, and from what I know, can create very large temporary cavities regardless of the relatively slow velocity (well under 2000ft/s) of the projectile. Conversely, the 223 with a proper bullet can also impart devastating damage beyond what one would expect from a small projectile.

In the case of most handguns, there is neither weight or speed sufficient to do anything but look impressive in a gel test. Gel and high-speed cameras can make basically anything look like the new wonderbullet is like a high explosive autocannon round. From Fackler's reports, yes the general speed required to have enough energy to make temporary cavity matter is around 2000ft/s, but bullet weight and construction (expansion, tumbling, fragmentation) are important factors in this rule of thumb.

Hunters have been taking large game with smaller calibers for a long time, with a bullet that can go deep enough, I would imagine that countless medium-to-large animals have been taken with lever actions in modest chamberings assuming shot placement was good. Hunting is often anecdotal and very case-by-case, the animal's reaction to being shot can never really be predicted with perfect accuracy. Maybe they shot a dozen game before landing on the one elk that just gave up after getting a hole poked in it. There's a video of some guys shooting a small doe with a 50BMG and it taking a football-sized scoop right out the exit side, and the doe still ran for a few seconds. There's plenty of videos of hunters sack-of-potatoes-drop on larger animals with a whole lot less than the 50BMG, like 357 Magnums.

The 7.5 round is basically a 30 carbine round (as if shot from a long barrel) from a pistol barrel. Whatever you can kill with an M1 carbine, you could do with the 7.5 from the pistol.
>> No. 103747 ID: 1989a8
I'm just saying that an aproximately 100 grain bullet goes into the target at supersonic speeds so their claims of effective hydrostatic damage may not be a just marketing meme. No amout of accurate or meme marketing claims justifies that fucking price tho. Would be interesting to see if they make any actual military AP ammo for it and how will it look if they do.
>> No. 106473 ID: 1989a8
  It's getting more expensive, lmao.
Still, what a cool looking piece.

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106455 No. 106455 ID: 2e94a3 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]

I'm trying to replicate the green hornet's car

And I already bought the guns from https://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/

But i'm not sure how to fix them to the car, any ideas?
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>> No. 106465 ID: da39fa
I love it when people find this site through Google and don't know how imageboards work.

Or this is an elaborate ruse.
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>> No. 106467 ID: bd9939
  It's like people only do things because they get paid, and that's just really sad.
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>But i'm not sure how to fix them to the car, any ideas?
>pic relate
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106329 No. 106329 ID: 241b9d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So, the Stryk B just hit the shelves in Euroland.

It's an evolution of the Arsenal Strike One, which did rather poorly before. It's main selling point was herping about low barrel axis (and thus low barrel climb), but the biggest issue was the trigger which was lackluster at best. They eventually released drop in trigger replacements which should be OK.

The Stryk B was made in collaboration between Arsenal, Salient Arms and RUAG.
It's got a fairly novel locking system which allows for low barrel axis, but other than that it's mostly just a strikerfired polymer wondernine with some fancy "gripmapping" and an enhanced trigger.

I've got a 9X19 permit I need to fill by the end of the month, or I lose it. So I may just get one.
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>> No. 106438 ID: 684f0e
  Glock 41 https://youtu.be/95YAUBUK4rA
>> No. 106439 ID: 684f0e
  Glock 41 Chapter 2 https://youtu.be/AUBPjomWcR4
Glock G41 Gen 4 Review: https://gundigest.com/reviews/glock-41-review-glock-rocks
Caliber: .45 ACP
Capacity: 13+1
Magazines: One 13-round
Barrel: 5.31”
Sights: White dot front, white bracket rear
Frame: Matte polymer
Slide: Tenifer
Length: 8.9”
Height: 5.47”
Weight: 27 oz. unloaded/36 oz. loaded
Options: Interchangeable backstraps, magazine loader, cleaning rod and brush, case
MSRP: $775
>> No. 106453 ID: df3610
This is what I am a bit afraid of with the Stryk B's trigger design, though obviously this Zev example is taking it to extremes with the pin walking out:


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106367 No. 106367 ID: 19518e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So China makes a stamped sheet metal semi-auto with a short stroke piston and a rotating bolt. It's not an AK variant but it could be considered a "close enough" distant relative twice removed to an AK variant.

A bit like how a trap is "close enough" to a girl. F-for some people.

Introductions aside, let's see how it shoots.
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Neat angle from here, at 1000 frames/sec we can see the short piston's stroke, the rearward push to open the action is quite brisk with the relatively sluggish piston return.
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That's about it for now, hopefully we can get some neat comparison stuff between other rifles and the T81 soon.
>> No. 106442 ID: 8908fb
Does...that mean they're burning away?
>> No. 106445 ID: 19518e
Getting anything to catch fire would be quite a feat considering the neutered magazine capacity limit. My buddy and I made a good team and managed to fire as continuous as could be expected, but it simply got uncomfortably hot, not quite bursting into flames hot. Basically everything in front of the magazine was pretty much near-water-boiling super hot cup of coffee hot or hotter (exposed metal).

Looking under there, the wood isn't burned but some stray wood fibers and small shellac globules getting singed/cooking probably caused most of the smoke along with whatever bit of oil might've been hanging around under there.
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Short bit of video I got from my buddy's side of things.

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