>>107032
I thought it was pretty much considered a plinker.

They're unreliable even when they're "reliable". I've yet to meet anyone that has one that cycles 100% every time. Some people love it for what it is, others don't. I know a couple guys that carry them on their trap lines.

There are a ton (new)on gunbroker for around that price shipped on cursory glance. Just find a place that'll do an FFL transfer and you'll be golden. It's pretty easy. Most places charge $15-50. I charge $25 where I work.

The .22 Magnum is a good varminting round and our nation's morgues has proved it's a killer. I like how many .22 LR single-action revolvers can swap out their cylinders for .22 Magnum cylinders, transforming a target/plinker to a rat-blaster. My Ruger New Model Single-Six is a good example of this. Terrible capacity (6 compared to 30), slow to reload, but accurate, reliable and will shoot all brands if you can stick 'em in the cylinder.

Now I have heard over the years that the Kel-Tek PMR-30 has feeding problems (perhaps this is mainly from not working well with certain ammo brands or loads) to reports of the cast metal breach blowing apart and disassembly pins breaking. If these are actually recurring problems, then that is a deal-breaker for me. Anyone have practical experience with it?

Neat plinker because fuck reloading. I don't know that I'd trust a 22 Mag with my life when there are more reliable, more powerful, more easily concealable alternatives easily available from other reputable manufacturers.

>>107034
Apparently, this was fixed. I've read that the original PMR30 had a bunch or problems, it either F2F, F2E or some other problem. But, Kel-Tec heard the complaints and fixed it in later builds of the PMR30.
Now, my problem is that I have no idea how to tell the difference between the old PMR30 and a new one.

the last time there was nobody in national office to promote scare buying the republicans were smart enough to provide some loosening of the regulation to give people fun new things to buy. nra gives them enough money and support, thats for sure. they don't have something as convenient as the awb expiration lurking around the corner this time around unfortunately.

I kinda like some Remie when they aren't total pieces of shit so this is a little sad especially if the brand dies completely.

But its their own damn fault, same with Colt (though for different reasons, Colt didn't take advantage of the panic buying while Remington invested too heavily in it to my understanding). They knew that Obama gravy train wouldn't last forever and didn't take steps to take the hit without falling to the pavement wheezing and upchucking their lunch.

I kinda wonder if Remington and other companies ramped up production further in anticipation of a Hillary win.

The same problems facing many gun companies with slow sales and still angry customers burned from the panic buying price gouging seems to be what graphic card sellers and manufacturers are dealing with right now with the buttcoin crypto currency craze, graphics card prices going through the roof, inventory being sold faster then it can be replaced, and sites like Newegg price gouging the fuck out of people. Some like Nvidia are trying to mitigate the damage while others are diving headlong into the boom seeming to not care there will eventually be a bust.

For me personally I was kinda wanting to buy one of those Remington Phaser looking pistols but noped the fuck out when I heard about the problems the gun had. Just spent the money on something else, some slightly deformed looking .22 revolver and a 360 I still have yet to play.

>>107003
i'd suggest that a government subsidy for citizen weapons purchases, but republicoons don't like welfare (or poor ppl getting guns) so i came up with this more clever idea of like a gunz 401k, i think that could be sold to capitalist republicaniggers because it would allow them to use their power to funnel cash to their wall street backers as dictated by the natural order of capitalism. so if you had job you could preselect a percentage of it which you could only spend on guns and there would be no income tax collected on that portion. to the GOP it would look like a tax cut, they'd be all for it. plus only ppl with jobs would benefit another plus.
of course it never happen because the nra's thinks it's task it to collect as much megabux as possible and then give out infinite free rim jobs and get nothing out of it. worst lobbyists ever

Better buy that R1 I was considering a couple years ago.

OK, that didn't last very long

panic buy fucking everything

>>106876
The only thing that pissed me off was the mags that had very high mileage.
I ran some simple drills with it and during a 1 and 1 I basically ran the baseplate halfway off.

But that's not going to be an issue with new mags, the mags are very well made.

>>106877
Nah fam, though I did mention how I was concerned about manipulating a WML with it sitting so far low.
I was given the response that the toggle switch can be actuated with the middle finger and yeah I guess that would work with ample training.

My biggest concern is how well holsters with WMLs would work, because it wouldn't exactly be solid for retention unless you had a groove over the trigger on the kydex or whatever.

But it would probably wear faster.

>>106876
Oh, quirk I guess is that like the Gen 2 Glocks (not sure about newer ones) if you send the mag in hard enough, it drops the slide.

Which was kind of a neat trick when I started getting used to it.

Not gonna lie, the gun grew on me.
I love it.

But it's like that weird alt chick you kinda dig.
You wanna fool around with it, but you kind of know better than to fuck yourself up like that in front of other people.

Mostly because she has gauges in her nose and tries to wrangle you into MMF shit too much.

>>106879

My SP-01 will do that. Is fast.

  >>106813
Now in aluminum.

I'll never be able to afford one...

Second hiccup was the ejector pin. It's a little too long, and when a case is present during the firing cycle, the pin wedges against the ejector plate and the bolt seizes up. We can see this issue quite clearly as normally the bolt should never stop where it is seen in this picture. We can even see the ejector pin against the underside of the ejector plate (that piece with the two small screws)

I'll have to work that in next time I'm out shooting because it's one of those things that you can't really tune on a bench. The rifle cycles fine when racking the bolt manually, but when the action is cycling under fire, the pin's relation to the plate becomes a point of higher "stress" as there's force acting on the pin.

Even if I only fired a handful of rounds in what pretty much amounted to single-shot "bolt action" shooting, the potential for awesome is very high once the gun is properly set up.

>>107018
I don't quite understand what's going on here. Does heat raise the sensitivity of primers or something?

>>107017
>light firing pin spring

Da fuk? What kind of spring constant do you have on that? Is it factory? When I got mine, the spring was RIDICULOUSLY strong. I've had to cut off a few coils just to make the trigger stop sucking. I'll try to compress the spring as I have it to maximum compression to see where we're at. I'd like to replace this spring with something designed for commercial primers instead of hard-as-fuck south american surplus (which was cheap when the TNW rifles first went into production), which would help clean up the trigger a lot more (and hopefully reduce the force on the aforementioned sear collar and lever).

And I'm sure you learned to wear gloves when operating it in bolt action mode. The knurling on the bolt handle is fairly aggressive.

I'd also recommend picking up a new production mainspring online or something if yours looks used, after I replaced mine, it felt like it ran a bit smoother, and it wasn't expensive. Further, if yours is old stock, you might want to get a replacement buttstock as well (I didn't though). NFA guys with them down in Portland told me to be careful since the stock is thin in places, and theyve had cracks/breaks...then again, who knows how well old fudds treated these things and could have dropped them on the stock or something. There's some polish kid on ebay who makes beech repros.

I also had some issues with the pawl slipping the belt, but that cleared up after 2-3 belts.

The gurttrommel required filing to fit mine, btw, and more spring cutting was involved (maximum compression was not open enough to get the clip over the guide) but mines a post-war yugo which had obviously not seen use.

>>107020
>>107021
Yeah the stock spring was replaced with a lighter one as the stock ones are stupid. The gun worked on the bench with empty primed cases in regular room temperature, but once it was taken to the cold, no rounds could fire even when I tried cycling them back and hitting them again.

I have some slightly heavier 1911 springs on order. The trick is finding a spring light enough to make the trigger not terrible but heavy enough to fire reliably.

This was a 14lbs 1911 spring and just warming the rounds up a but was enough to let them fire so there's not a whole lot of spring force missing to make it reliable. A lighter firing pin also increases reliability in cycling normal ammo as it reduces the force required by the main spring to close the bolt.

I heard gunsmiths commenting that German weapons had notoriously stiff springs. I had a WW2 German Mauser K98 and a Walther P.38 and those had stiff springs. Firing pins really put deep dents in the primers.

German WW1 Maxim Flak M14, a version of the 37mm Maxim-Nordenfelt gun.

Here's Hiram S. Maxim holding up his Maxim light gun and mount for prospective buyers.

MAXIM NORDENFELT 37MM “POM-POM”, NAVAL DECK GUN (EXEMPT FROM NFA).

SN 2024. Cal. 37mm. 51″ bbl. This exquisitely and professionally restored orig “one pounder” Maxim Nordenfelt automatic cannon is one of only very few extent of the early model. When found these are normally badly deteriorated having been exposed to the elements for decades, often as part of municipal historical monuments. This extraordinary specimen has the correct color gray paint covering the sideplates with a massive brass feed block incorporating an attractive wooden roller. It sets on an orig correct albeit non-matching SN Naval cone mount with brass cradle; the entire display piece is on a custom made wheeled dolly, making it manageable to move around. Actuating arm, feed slide, pawls and pins not present in feed block, nor is bolt present in receiver. Orig mainspring is included but not installed as the tabbed ends are not serviceable. Trigger bar, hand grip, cover, charging handle and external levers present and appear serviceable. Impressive orig brass spring cover also present on left side. Elevation adjustment wheel non-functional, however, steel pins and adjustable shaft allow one to display this piece pointing any number of positions of a wide vertical arc. Traverses smoothly through 360 degrees. This impressive display piece is non-functional due to missing the parts mentioned above and it is important to note that although this model is an automatic cannon with a rifled bore diameter greater than 1/2″ it has been declared “exempt” from the provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA). A copy of a BATF letter attesting to this fact for this model is provided. This model is of significant historical interest as it was originally manufactured in 1889 as part of a thirty gun initial production run (This class of Maxim started at #2001). http://jamesdjulia.com/item/3034-394/

The first sale of gun #2024, with 5 others was made to the Minister of Marine, St Petersburg, Russia in March of 1895. All six guns were rejected due to defects and were returned to the factory and rebuilt. The top cover is marked with the issue/rebuild date of 1895. The company was reorganized in 1897 and conducted business as Vickers, Sons and Maxim (VSM), thus there are VSM inspection stamps on the gun. It is clear that the gun was sold, used, factory rebuilt and remarked before ourchase by the U.S. Navy in the first days of the Spanish American War. This gun was included in the first group of sixteen guns that the U.S. Navy purchased in March of 1898. This very gun, Navy Registery number 5, along with gun #2026 registry #6 were placed on the MANNING, a U.S. revenue Cutter, in April 1898, at Norfolk U.S. Navy Yard, according to the records of the U.S. Bureau of Ordnance. The Manning was taken into U.S. Naval service and participated in the bombardment of Spanish positions off Cabanas, Cuba on May 12th 1898. Eventually, Maxim 1 Pdr. Automatic Guns of this type were declared obsolete in the years 1911/1912 and were removed from ships during this period. PROVENANCE: RG 74 Records of the Bureau of Ordnance; Record of Armament of Naval Vessals, 1841-1903; Registry of Mounts for Secondary Battery, 1888-1913. Pgs 116 and 118-E131 CONDITION: Overall appearance and finish is absolutely outstanding as restored with the brass jacket exhibiting a pleasing patina with a commensurate finish on the brass feed block and other brass parts. Metal sideplate exhibit correct gray Navy paint. Orig brass spring housing simply outstanding. Trigger bar shows evidence of significant old pitting but is completely serviceable. Bore is moderately pitted but retains significant rifling. The “one pounder”, 1.457″ cartridge coupled with its manageable 250-300 rounds per minute rate of fire was extremely effective and could perforate a 1″ iron plate at 100 yards. Should a person be able to locate or fabricate the remaining parts, with the appropriate expertise, this gun could likely be restored to an operating condition. This cataloger is not aware of any source of orig solid steel projectile ammunition nor of a belt which would accommodate it, however, this specimen in this condition provides a unique opportunity for the advanced U.S. Military and Navy ordnance collector to acquire one of the most impressive and attractive pieces of Navy ordnance ever to come to public auction. The fact that records indicate it first went to Russia, and then later was in U.S. Naval Service during the Spanish American War make this a gun of noteworthy interest. 50927-1 JWK80 (150,000-250,000) – Lot 3034

  Maxim Pom-Pom 37mm Machine Gun https://youtu.be/EG1DoHPAaRA
Forgotten Weapons
"Pom-Pom" was the name given to the 37mm Maxim gun by the Boers of South Africa, based on the gun's sound. It was a Maxim machine gun scaled up to the quite impressive 37mm caliber, intended primarily for naval use defending large vessels against small torpedo boats. This particular example is serial number 2024, made in 1889 and then sold three times before being ultimately purchased by the United States Coast Guard and installed on the USS Manning (along with a second gun, number 2026). The Manning was promptly put into military service by the Navy and steamed down to Cuba, where it participated in the first bombardment of Cuba during the Spanish-American War.

These 37mm guns could fire a wide variety of projectiles, including solid rounds which could pierce an inch (25mm) of iron armor at 100 yards and hollow rounds filled with black powder and fused to explode on impact. During World War One, they would be pushed into anti-aircraft service, with the explosive rounds being extremely effective on early aircraft (when you could get a hit, anyway).

Love my BCM KMR handguard on my PBEAR MkII. Lightweight, not too thick, a good fit for my hands. They also have the Mlok MCMR now. Either should come in under your budget. Just I would suggest if you go with the KMR that you get the aluminum "Alpha" version rather than the magnesium alloy version. It's fine if you're not gonna put anything load bearing on it, but keymod is already weaker than mlok, no need to exacerbate the issue. (I know one OPERATOR who managed to rip off his vfg at the range with an original KMR)

>>106748
>>106747

>muh pri and swan sleeve

>>106853
>>106747
Is PRI Duracoatable?

>>106862
I don't see why it wouldn't be, but I'd probably not sand blast it since it's mostly carbon fiber. Scuff it up, clean it with denatured alcohol really well and then paint it. You could probably even oven cure it, but I've not attempted it on mine.

>>106862
Probably. You can get the tubes in black, tan, or green.

>>106978
Mine isn't the CF version, but it's not smooth texture.

>>106887
>no rational reason

It's a steel frame.

>>106979
>It's a steel frame.

I'd argue that that's largely a negative for a service weapon.

Pistols are used infrequently, but carried a lot. Making them lighter is in my opinion superior, which means getting rid of the steel frame.

Steel also can freeze to your hands when handled in extreme cold, where polymer doesn't.
Steel can be too hot to touch when left in the sun, as can polymer. Though polymer can also become squishy or brittle when overheated.

I'm a big fan of steel framed guns, but for service weapons, it makes little sense. For soldiers and MPs, a polymer framed pistol seems like an easy choice. Specialist units like SF or CID etc should probably get to decide for themselves what they prefer to use.

>>106979
But that, you mean aluminum? It's not 1945.

>>106986
I was trying to figure that out too. The M9 uses an aluminum frame and the M17 uses a stainless steel chassis, inside a polymer frame.

Whatever.

>>106987
Cost

>>106804
Your dot's missing. My M&P did the same thing.

>>106807
>Your dot's missing. My M&P did the same thing.

Common issue?

>>106804

How'd you like the inforce APL?
People like the looks & size, but often say it's rather easy to break.

>>106808
I'm guessing so. Happened to someone I know, paint cracked and basically fell out under normal use.

That's pretty.

>>106808
So it's not a common thing, but I'm pretty sure we've both thrown our pistols like baseballs at one point.

I can say that the TLR1 HD will take some serious beatings before the lens cracks, his Inforce hasn't had *any* issues whatsoever.

kinda cool

Since P320 the fire control group is the "firearm" so do you just buy a PDW kit and move your fire control over and it's good to go?

>>106872

I would think so.
>The X01 standard model can be chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum, .357 SIG, and .40 S&W by transplanting the corresponding P320® components (.45 ACP is in development, as the changes in magazine well dimensions require a specialized lower grip module).

https://firecontrolunit.com/?page_id=1318

>>106873
Pistol bracer with VFG hehe, also the lower looks like it was 3D printed with how rough looking near the muzzle is.

IIRC there is a company making 80% SIG P320 not sure anything came about of it, this was before the SIGDrop Meme

Cost me $412 after shipping and transfer fees. Shoots OK at 25 yards. I tried some JHPs and SWCs earlier today

20' indoors. I think after this I'm going to buy a small sized backstrap after today. Because it was a police tradein it didn't come with anything other than the installed medium one.

After ordering a Streamlight TLR-4 (for $70!) and looking into who makes a hybrid holster that will accept a 4" M&P .45 with one attached, I came across this:
http://osbornholsters.com/tacticaltuck-iwb-1/
Anyone deal with them before? Recommend, not recommend, any better hybrid out there that fits my requirements?

Lucky you