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103213 No. 103213 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
I'm filled with the need to fill a void in my collection (and life): I want a high quality shotgun.

This quest started with trying to find (or make) a suitable classic looking Ithaca 37 (either already SBS, or make it into one). That didn't go anywhere. Ithaca doesn't export to euroland, and I'm having trouble finding a suitable donor gun to SBS (or even to find someone willing to SBS the gun for me since due to regulations it has to be reproofed etc, meaning paperwork & wasted time going to the test bench/proof house which would cost more than the actual cutting & refinishing).

Other alternatives were visited:
Browning has an Ithaca sibling, so that was the first stop. Various features and components were not really to my liking though, missing that special M37 look.
Mossbergs have a handy lefty friendly safety, so I looked at those next. Turns out their finish is really shitty.
Remingtons, well, let's not even go there. I've seen too many Remington things fail in the past 10 years that I'm not willing to touch them anymore.
Winchester was next. SXP is a basic no nonsense shotty made in Turkey, but turns out it's actually has more than it's share of problems if jewtoob is to be believed. Including at least two instances of slamfiring with the safety on. So that's out.

With time, interests shifted and eventually brought me to the Benelli M3 Tactical (~20", ghost ring sights, classic stock) & Benelli M3 Entry (~14", ghost ring sights, usually telescopic stock). Because why the fuck not? It's both a pump and a semi, filling two needs at once.
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>> No. 105847 ID: 241b9d
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>>105846
>I'd like to stay with inertia driven for the purposes of simplicity.

It's my understanding that this generates more perceived recoil though.
And it's not like the alternatives are especially complex.

>Primary use of the gun would be for Skeet/Trap, as well as Home Defense and potentially 3 gun further down the road.

My gut tells me that skeet/trap have quite different requirements than 3-gun, but I'm sure that someone with more experience in that can shed more light on it.
>> No. 105853 ID: 85f7d3
>>105847

>My gut tells me that skeet/trap have quite different requirements than 3-gun, but I'm sure that someone with more experience in that can shed more light on it.

Yeah, basically I'm presuming that if I move on to 3-gun I'll get something else for trap and skeet like a Super Vinci or something. I know that the M2 and the M3000 can both become 3 gun shotguns through basic mods, but they can operate as trap/skeet guns immediately. Doe that make sense? It's why I'm not looking at a Vinci now; it can be a trap/skeet gun but it really doesn't have the aftermarket to support it as a 3 gun shotgun.

I also forgot to mention, but having the ability to get a Slug barrel would be nice as well. Here in Ohio most firearm deer hunting seems do be done with shotguns and the option would be good. Though it's a secondary concern, I could probably pick up a used 870 Police Magnum and get a slug barrel for not all that much.
>> No. 105864 ID: 241b9d
>>105853

Plenty of slugs work fine without rifling though. So depending on what you aim for, a dedicated slug barrel may not be required.
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>>103512
you do do you, man. I've slowly arrived here over the years.
Guns are expensive to replace, buy the ones that last.
>> No. 107232 ID: 0e1e77
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>>105864
Indeed!
Rifled lead slugs can be fired through regular smoothbore shotgun barrels, even ones with chokes, although improved cylinder works best. The rifling on these lead slugs imparts very little spin, but it allows these slugs to be swedged through any size normal choke. A rifled shotgun barrel allows you to shoot the more accurate sabot or copper-jacketed slugs.

Years ago, I bought a $200 Remington 850 pump and added a $90 Mossberg rifled shotgun barrel. Really unnecessary as I use cheap Brenneke slugs, but the barrel came with a length of rails that extends over the top of the lock that can fit sights to it. I put a cheap reflex sight on it and it works great at the 100 yard range that slugs are effective in. Other hunters love red dot scopes on their slug barrels.


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102788 No. 102788 ID: 85f7d3 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Evening guys,

I have a Mossberg 9200 12 gauge that I took trap shooting, and somewhere around the 50 round mark the bolt locked back and won't budge. A similar malfunction occurred earlier in the day, but was cleared with a simple butt-stroke and the gun functioned without error for the next 40 rounds or so. I'm not sure if this is a issue with the bolt or the action bar, but neither piece will move. Any guidance on troubleshooting this would be greatly appreciated.

(also if this is in the wrong place feel free to move it)
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>> No. 103141 ID: 19518e
>>103134
Ahhh right, that's probably handy for switching to a slug but malfunction clearing then needs an extra step.

I see, I see.
>> No. 107169 ID: a443cb
Your action bar spring clip is missing.It connects the inertia weight to the action bar. Inertia weight is the thing with the gas rings on it. there is a band type clip that holds them together. See pic # 102794. The action bar is way to high on the inertia weight. Notice the groove on the weight, there is supposed to be a band clip there.The action bar should be about as high up as the arrow on the instruction sticker on the weight.Maybe the action bar has slipped out of its' groove on the inertia weight. barrel side.
>> No. 107175 ID: c27283
>>107169
The Googlers are at it again!
>> No. 107177 ID: 4be1c0
>>107175
Hey, not a bad thing. Maybe they'll have a look around and stay.


>>107169
Welcome to operatorchan.
>> No. 107216 ID: 85f7d3
>>107169

Huh - thanks for the input! I'll take a look at it the next time I'm at the in-laws and see if the position of the action bar can be modified.

As a follow up, I did end up getting a Stoeger M3000 (28in, walnut). I was in a Dick's (I know, but it was before the unpleasantness) returning a shirt and they gave me a 15% off coupon. I went up to the gun counter, they had one in stock, and were willing to test if the system would accept the coupon on firearms and ammo. Sure enough, it did! The action was a little rough, but smoothed out with repeated manipulation and snap-cap loading. I like the way it shoots, but now I've caught the shotgun bug and am looking for something pump in the 18.5-20in range. Whoops.


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  InrangeTV: WWSD: Rethinking the AR15 - CONCLUSION
https://www.full30.com/video/4061416c448a5753794d1a6c63b1fc92

The shills for Dixie Waste Services have finally concluded their What Would Stoner Do project, and come up with a gun that weighs under 5.5 lbs.

http://www.inrange.tv/wwsd-carbine-official-components/

> APPROXIMATE TOTAL: $1850

Thoughts on their setup? Thoughts on modern AR parts in general?
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>> No. 107202 ID: 9dcda2
  >>107198
> full retard overgassed

I'm pretty pleased with the SLR gas block. The word is they're pretty durable and reliable.

Check out the JP Rifles video Mass vs Gas.

> carbon fiber wrap barrels

For .223? I've seen plenty of 22LR barrels, which sounds fine. Steel is pretty good for the whole barrel thing.
>> No. 107204 ID: 1519ac
>>107202
They are steel, just a small diameter that gets wrapped in carbon fiber. You can get them in .338, .223 will be fine.
>> No. 107207 ID: 22ba7a
  >>107202
>Check out the JP Rifles video Mass vs Gas.
Good basic overview, but it doesn't really address the little details of bolt bounce from a standard spring and buffer system. Probably doesn't apply with the JP captured springs and all that fancy stuff. Vuurwapen touches a bit on this type of thing in video related.

>>107202
>>107204
There's a lot of carbon fiber wrap barrels out there, they are not made equal. Although my experience is limited, I'm willing to try out the Proof Research barrels. They offer a very stiff and accurate barrel for what basically amounts to pencil-profile steel weight. I've seen them in calibers up to 338 Lapua, and I've heard of a test where a shooter dumped a hundred rounds through his 308 Norma Mag as fast as he could cycle his bolt action. Keep in mind that caliber is very close to a 300 Win Mag, a hundred rounds that fast is quite a lot and it'll get the barrel cooking hard. Heat mirage over the barrel made precision shooting almost impossible, but still the Proof Research barrel didn't show much point of impact shift. The barrel cooled very quickly, quicker than any steel barrel, and proceeded to fire a group of the same size and position as the first cold-bore group.

This test is hearsay and anecdotal, but the witness is trustworthy. Still, I'm still skeptical and I'll definitely be honest as I'm spending my own money on this. Even with magazine limitations, I know I can get a barrel fucking hot, and I'll definitely try out various tests myself and report without sugarcoating.
>> No. 107215 ID: 60641c
I think the best part about the WWSD project is the fact that a good polymer lower can save you weight and not give up a bit of functionality or durability. If the price of AR lowers ever rises, I'd love to see GWACS improve the old CavArms design. I don't think they'd ever sell enough to pay down the tooling cost with the cost of aluminum lowers such as they are.

The carbon fiber handguard is neat too. The light weight, strength, and heat rejection are real benefits if you can get past the cost.
>> No. 107221 ID: 22ba7a
Here's a good article on good carbon wrap barrel.

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek092.html

From what I understand at this point, carbon fiber is much more complicated than at first blush. The epoxy and the weave pattern matter a whole lot, and both can dramatically change the properties of the final product to such an extent that they appear polar opposites.

For example, a carbon fiber handguard can be so insulating that it stays cool in direct sunlight and high round counts. However, with the right wrap and epoxy compound, a carbon fiber wrap barrel can conduct heat away faster than steel. In essence, the carbon fiber wrap acts like a massive heat sink that dissipates heat into the outside air very efficiently, cooling the steel barrel within quickly.

We all seem to think firearms have plateaued, and while that may be true for the basic form and function of standard cased munition firearms, I think we will see many changes stemming from material sciences. What now may be fancy expensive accessories or components will get cheaper, and with that might come changes to firearm designs that will reduce weight, improve durability, and other such factors. I think in the next decade or two, carbon fiber and other such boutique materials could become as prevalent as polymer is now.


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107183 No. 107183 ID: eac8a3 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/whats-hot/georgia-sheriffs-new-welcome-sign-turning-heads-going-viral

POSTED: APR 05 2018 10:10PM EDT
VIDEO POSTED: APR 06 2018 03:21PM EDT
UPDATED: APR 06 2018 03:22PM EDT
HARRIS COUNTY, Ga. - A Georgia sheriff is creating social media waves again after posting yet another “welcome sign” in front of his headquarters.

Harris County Sheriff Mike Jolley created the latest bold welcome sign which reads:

"Our citizens have concealed weapons. If you kill someone, we might kill you back. We have one jail and 356 cemeteries. Enjoy your stay!"

SEE ALL: Georgia Sheriff Posts Sign to ‘Stir People's Belief'

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This isn't the first time one of Sheriff Jolley's welcome sign went viral.
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107102 No. 107102 ID: 866d6d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
The Beretta 81. A double stack .32ACP blowback DA/SA sized like a Beretta 92 left in the dryer too long, but with the safety on the frame as God intended.
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>> No. 107155 ID: 22ba7a
>>107154
Seconded, Ruger MKwhatever pistols are best value/money for .22LR blowbacks. Hands down.
>> No. 107156 ID: f2172d
>>107155
Still prefer the Browning Buckmark slightly above the Ruger Mk series.
>> No. 107157 ID: f2172d
>>107156
I recently compared my S&W 41 side by side against a Ruger Mk IV Competition. The Ruger was nice, but the 41 simply has a better trigger.
>> No. 107159 ID: aaf1f1
God tier mkiii 22\45 Hunter with VQ trigger easy disassembly kit and drop free mag mod
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>>107154
.22LRs are cheating. If we're including them, my Kadet kit is the shit.

>>107157
That's also cheating. The Model 41 is the Registered Magnum of .22LR target pistols.


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106755 No. 106755 ID: e809d9 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
556 doggos were sacrificed to the murder /k/ube for this holy relic of a weapon.

26 U.S. Code § 5845

DEFINITION OF A RIFLE
>The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger,
>>>FIRE ... ONLY A SINGLE PROJECTILE
>>>SINGLE PULL

DEFINITION OF A MACHINEGUN - NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT OF 1934
>The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.
>>>SHOOT ... MORE THAN ONE SHOT
>>>SINGLE FUNCTION
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>> No. 107145 ID: 738b31
>>107140
kinda
The diabolo shape keeps it pointed in the right direction, but lack of spin supposedly makes the effects of wind more pronounced. Probably won't win you any bench rest matches.
>> No. 107146 ID: 22ba7a
>>107145
For this kind of gimmicky thing, I wouldn't assume they are aiming for sub-minute. I'm intrigued by it on principle, an accurate smoothbore is interesting just because it's different, and it's something that piques my curiosity.

It also might actually be a way to make cheap plinking cheaper. Cheap barrels, a simple swaged bullet design, just something to shoot standing within 100 yards or serve as short range self-defense carbine that would be cheap and effective.
>> No. 107150 ID: 19358d
>>106823
So anyone want to try and jump on this train now to defuck this concept?
>> No. 107152 ID: 0e8e6d
>>107142
Pellets are at a huge disadvantage compared to bullets, they actually start to lose velocity while still in the barrel.

To add more velocity, companies like FX airguns introduced something they call smooth twist barrels where the majority of the barrel is smooth, but it has a bit of rifling at the end to impart stabilization. Pretty much try to reduce friction as much as possible.

Technically, that technology has been around for a long time and shotguns have been using rifled chokes. But, this is the first time in an airgun and it is definitely more useful there than in the world of chemical propellants.

Let me know if you have any other questions, I've been obsessed with big bore airguns as of late.
>> No. 107153 ID: 22ba7a
>>107152
>Pellets are at a huge disadvantage compared to bullets, they actually start to lose velocity while still in the barrel.
I can see this being the case with compressed air-propelled pellets.

My main question was about accuracy. If you fired a pellet at a supersonic speed with a smoothbore barrel, would the pellet tumble?

My posts as a whole in this thread were mostly directed to using a bullet design that would not need gyroscopic stability in supersonic flight for use in the Franklin Armory Reformation smoothbore rifle. Their "30 cents over regular ammo" thing sounds very expensive for their nerf football bullet, so a handloader or ammunition manufacturer could potentially make a cheap bullet with half decent accuracy for that type of rifle.


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107051 No. 107051 ID: df12a0 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I love my RDB, it's everything I've come to expect from Kel-Tec products, but unfortunately, that includes their pathological desire to include the worst possible aesthetic in terms of handguard.

HOWEVER! "Lucky Irishman Firearms" has designed a far superior handguard for the RDB, and I'd love to have one, but they're currently out of stock.
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>>107136
Reminds me of range stories, such as one about people shooting a semi-auto Tommy Gun and suddenly it went full-auto after burning through a number of drums. The shooter had good presence of mind and kept hold of the out-of-control Thompson until all the ammo remaining in that 50-round drum was expended. Don't know if it was a mechanical malfunction or an ammo cook-off from a hot breech. When it went haywire, he yelled something along the lines of "Holy moley! My finger's off the trigger but this Devil machine is firing on its own!" Perhaps with responses like "Dude, you're in unlawful possession of an unlicensed machine-gun. The Feds'll send you up the river for thirty years!"
>> No. 107138 ID: aaf1f1
It does happen
National guard drill instructor convicted
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=14780
>> No. 107147 ID: 2001f3
>>107137
I've heard you can get the same effect with a milsurp SKS if it's not cleaned properly before use. Floating firing pin gets gummed up with Cosmoline and sticks, striking the primer as soon as the round is chambered and keeps going until the mag is empty.

And then there was the magazine article about doing a trigger job on an AK that neglected to mention that their method could make a slamfiring illegal machine gun.

>>107138
The way I understand that is if you knowingly replicate a malfunction causing "machine gun" fire, it's illegal, but if it's a legit accident and you don't keep doing it, you're probably okay.
>> No. 107149 ID: 22ba7a
>>107147
I've had a slamfire happen with S&B commercial ammo in my SKS, it was clean and the firing pin was perfectly free.

Thankfully it only fired one round that way as I hadn't finished topping it up, so my dogs weren't shot.
>> No. 107151 ID: df12a0
>>107136
>>107137
Well, I only happened to have three rounds left in the magazine, so I have no idea if it would've continued if there were more, or if it would've done a burst and stopped.

>>107147
Yeah, it only happened once, and hasn't happened again since its last cleaning, so I should be good for a while.


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96901 No. 96901 ID: 52ed6e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Been a while since the last one.

>I have a SKS that has a shortened barrel. It is currently legal again for anyone to own. I am looking to trade or sell it.

>Will trade for:
>Trade's I'm interested in:
>Ruger pistols 9,40,45,357
>XD pistols 9,40,45
>S&W pistols 9,40,45,357
>1911's
>357 revolvers with at least 4-6 inch barrel
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No, really, I ask... who would pay that kind of money for this?
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Reminds me of explaining the advantages of having a tribble...

SPOCK - There is something disquieting about these creatures.
MCCOY - Oh? Don't tell me you've got a feeling, Spock?
SPOCK - Of course not, Doctor. They remind me somewhat of the lilies of the field. They toil not, neither do they spin... but they seem to eat a great deal. I see no practical use for them.
MCCOY - Does everything have to have a practical use for you? They're... nice. They're furry and soft. They make a pleasant sound.
SPOCK - So would an ermine violin, Doctor, but I see no advantage in one.


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102941 No. 102941 ID: aadd02 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
How do you shoot them? Went to a gun show with my father-in-law yesterday (I thought he was nogunz for life because of a DV misdemeanor conviction years ago. Turns out, he had a misdemeanor for violating the restraining order, but the original DV charge was dropped). We looked at some options for home defense, decided to sleep on it, and he wants to go back today to pick up a pistol grip Mossberg like the one shown here, impressed as he was by its compactness and maneuverability (and price).

I've always been curious. How the fuck do you properly hold these things?
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>> No. 102988 ID: b70387
>>102987
We lost a bunch of images in older threads due to a software fuck-up awhile ago, though it looks like most of those have been pushed off the end of the board already. Stoplossed's ancient M1 Garand improvement thread, >>90456, still shows the effect, but that's no reason to delete the whole thing.
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I went and deleted that whole thread myself. About half of the images were unviewable.
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Anyone tried a shotgun suppressor?
- US Remington 870 MCS AOW shotgun with a Salvo suppressor.
>> No. 103018 ID: 974c52
>>102960
You meant to type the feds shoot your dog, kids, and wife.
>> No. 107128 ID: 6a6b9b
>>102941
fuckin useless but fun. get bird shot and get good at hip firing its a blast


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107088 No. 107088 ID: d7e6b8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Range report for the Taurus PT-111 G2c

All good. Shoots a little low out of the box, sights are adjustable. Will adjust next go around.

250 rounds down range, no issues.

CCW/EDC/Truck Gun.

The G3 is coming out soon and if they adjust the trigger I will own that as well. Never thought I would own one much less potentially two Taurus pistols.
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Preemptive haters reply.

When spouting off, please see.
>>107091
>> No. 107092 ID: d7e6b8
>>107088
On a more serious note this weapon has everything that I desire in a concealed carry weapon.

I carry with one in the chamber. Just how I roll. This for me in my mind requires that I must have a manual safety on the weapon as I do not have full control of the weapon while it is holstered.

I know it may be weird to some. Just my requirement.

Bonus, it comes with a trigger safety as well.

12+1 standard, comes with 2 mags.

Very happy with this gun.

The G2c version comes without the Taurus security locking system.

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>> No. 107093 ID: 9dcda2
>>107092
> 12+1 standard

What's the size like? I'm guessing as wide as a glock 19, but shorter barrel and grip?

On a scale of 1 to staple gun, how's the trigger?
>> No. 107094 ID: d7e6b8
  >>107093
>What's the size like?
Fits my hand perfectly. Could see this being a little small on the grip for the 6'+ crowd until a more firmed up aftermarket version of the extended pinky rest mag comes out.

Beyond the troughs in the front the entire slide is tapered slightly, the gun is extremely easy to draw.

>On a scale of 1 to staple gun, how's the trigger?
Hmm... What to say here.

First, you can and should totally ride the trigger bar on reset. It is firm and the reset is very short. See the video.

I plan on dumping a lot of rounds through this gun to get it down.

You may also hear about it being "gritty". That was resolved on the g2c by removing the Taurus security locking system. There was not grit for me, only a firm bar and short reset. There is an aftermarket for non C models that disengages the key safety and removes the grit as well. I don't own the earlier models so I do not have any issues here.
>> No. 107095 ID: c959ea
  Taurus Millennium PT111 G2 https://youtu.be/MH3tJrK2ma4


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