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102491 No. 102491 ID: b70387 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
From d0041a, in the CZ P10 thread, for whatever reason:


>The U.S. Army on Thursday awarded Sig Sauer a contract worth $580 million to make the next service pistol based on the company's P320 handgun.

>Sig Sauer beat out Glock Inc., FN America and Beretta USA, the maker of the current M9 9mm service pistol, in the competition for the Modular Handgun System, or MHS, program.

>One of the major goals of the effort was to adopt a pistol chambered for a more potent round than the current 9mm. The U.S. military replaced the .45 caliber 1911 pistol with the M9 in 1985 and began using the 9mm NATO round at that time.

>Two sources confirmed to Military.com that Sig submitted to the Army .40-caliber and 9mm pistols for consideration. One source said the Army ultimately selected the 9mm version.

>The Army in December down-selected to two finalists for the competition: Sig and Glock, which had submitted its Glock 17 and Glock 19 models for consideration. Given the size of the contract, Glock is widely expected to protest the decision.

>Army officials informed Beretta USA and FN America at the show that they had been dropped from the competition in the recent down-select decision, according to a service source who is not authorized to speak to the press. But confusion reigned as reporters informed company officials of the Army's announcement.
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>> No. 102515 ID: 149a9d
>I dunno, that sounds pretty good to me. Beats the shit out of all the Glock 34s out there.

Maybe, but it devaluates the whole X-series brand name.
It's literally a polymer gun which they ADDED WEIGHT ONTO because the balance was utter trash. Might as well make an alu lower for it at that point and have that explain the markup.

>Striker-fired, with a manual safety. Why?

Because a good portion of soldiers are idiots?
>> No. 102516 ID: fb893e
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Seen on Facebook.

I think this says all you need to know about the styling and price.
>> No. 102517 ID: 764560

As GVD said, there's always the lowest common denominator idiots. Also likely, is that they put it on there specifically so the DOD could target the contract to get the sidearm they wanted while still having the "test trial" pony show.
>> No. 102525 ID: c11034
To be honest my only problem with the M9 was the location of the safety. I got tiny hands and my thumb couldn't reach easily. Made me slow during the "new" USMC pistol qual.

Other than that I found her to be accurate and fairly pleasant to shoot.

Would have bough a 92FS if not for that safety. How I ended up with the Hi Power.
>> No. 102529 ID: d681c2
>Maybe, but it devaluates the whole X-series brand name.
absolutely. the proper X-series are completely different beasts than the regular P22x, fully machined from steel with match triggers, match sights and match barrels.
this one has holes in the slide and weight in the plastic.

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102187 No. 102187 ID: 632b3e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Unless I missed it, no one has posted about the new CZ offering... a Glock clone.

Personally I'm not too excited, since there are already tons of things just like this on the market, but I can see why CZ would make it since they are sure to sell like hotcakes.

Designed to fit into Glock 17 holsters I think.
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n-no thanks

i put one of these aside at my shop. besides the tactical brand tactical urban grey color, i'm pretty excited for it.

now i just have to start paperwork on a pistol can.
>> No. 102475 ID: b70387
  CZ-USA P10/805 Bren Carbine
>> No. 102487 ID: d0041a
BREAKING NEWS: The SIG P320 was just awarded the MHS contract to replace the Beretta M9
>> No. 102488 ID: d0041a
Forgot Link

>> No. 102489 ID: b70387
This really deserves its own thread.

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101804 No. 101804 ID: e0eca2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So, I'm finishing up a 8" suppressed build on a transferable lower. I just got it running about 100% with and without the suppressor but needless to say, it's next to impossible to keep your eyes open with all the gas I'm getting in my face shooting this thing full auto.

What's the best option for a charging handle here? It seems to be the go to option for cutting down gas to the face. I've looked at these three...


Anyone have any experience with any of these or cutting down gas blowback in general? I'm open to throwing high temp silicone on anything along with drilling vent holes into the charging handle as well if these three choices are gimmicks, seems to be what a lot of people are doing. Overall just looking for the best option.
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>> No. 101849 ID: 733851

okay, now that is kind of interesting. Actually, I could see that working real in conjunction with the PDW-style stocks or short pistol buffer tubes...
>> No. 101860 ID: 3f5192
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So after much research and thinking I believe I've found my solution.

Fist off, the gas is primarily escaping from between the BOTTOM of the charging handle and not to top. Most of these charging handles only attempt to block gasses from the top and from what I can tell only the PRI one even tries to vent from the bottom. So issue number one is perusing a product that was flawed in design from the get go.

I'm going to do some experimenting with my mill sometime in the next few days. Along with some high temp silicone on the top (to ensure all gasses are directed into the newly designed bottom) I'm going to try and mill a series of angled trenches onto the bottom of the charging handle's rear.

I'm using PRI's idea as a base. However I'm going to enlarge it in both depth and width and make it vent out both sides to hopefully work better. It should also hold up to abuse better than a series of holes.
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A freakish success!

Cuts the amount of gas I'm getting in my face by at least 60%, didn't even put silicone on it. Not bad for five minuets of labor.

I think I can improve on the design as well, give me a few weeks and I may have something worth mass producing.
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I bought one of these bad bitches for my 300blk gat; i haven't shot it extensively because the can is in jail, but i'll report back when i do.
>> No. 102352 ID: 1fe078
One thing to consider, I hear OSS suppressors reduce a lot of back oressure and blowback.

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102300 No. 102300 ID: e4de0c hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Today is my 21st, can we have an ATF thread?

(Feel free to move/merge if there's already one going on another board)
>> No. 102318 ID: 0064e9
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>> No. 102321 ID: 9dcda2
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I suppose we can have a A-F-T thread if you really want to.
>> No. 102322 ID: 9dcda2
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Space Shuttle Aft
>> No. 102323 ID: 9dcda2
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I wonder how long the file names can be...
>> No. 102324 ID: 9dcda2
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90456 No. 90456 ID: 7d8bca hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
It served us well. It was one of the most relevant fighting rifles built in the 20th century, but what about the 21st? My goals are...

1) Rebuild a M1 and make it mission capable for another century without anyone realizing what just happened.
2) It must adapt to an ever changing world that it was not meant for.
3) Accurate? Yes
4) A change in weight and balance
4) A lie...
5) Must use modern materials as much as possible
6) Of course reliable
7) Make old people happy- or maybe not.

All questions, comments and advice welcome. So it begins.
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>> No. 101932 ID: 8c968b
We have the same (crappy) lathe.
>> No. 102314 ID: 3ce261
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So after some intense cutting and removal of cheap 1960/70s plastic I fitted the M14/M1A buttplate.
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The much needed ''shoulder thing that goes up''
>> No. 102327 ID: 19518e
Range trip writeup please.

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101890 No. 101890 ID: e517e3 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Fuck the 10th Amendment: Electric Boogaloo 2.

Apparently with the increase of states that have legalized medical and/or recreational use of marijuana, the BATFE wants to make it crystal clear that they don't care and, basically, fuck you.


God, I hope Trump takes a bulldozer to and salts the earth of this fucking agency.
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>> No. 102257 ID: c86ed8
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Pot is a gateway drug, it should be banned. Most Pot in the USA comes from South American drug gangs, who aren't very nice people. Don't give them any money.
>> No. 102291 ID: c01ca7
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Not anymore bru.
>> No. 102294 ID: a096d9

That hasn't been true for several decades.
>> No. 102312 ID: 226e7c
Cartels coming in aren't usually bringing weed although they do some. Most weed is home-grown or bought at dispensaries (And then dispersed out in smaller sales)

Weed was also never a gateway drug, this was common thought thanks to a massive propaganda campaign in the 60's.
>> No. 102313 ID: ad8094
Weird GA should be on the map too, through it's illegal to sell in GA but south GA has huge private growing operations, all exporting to other states.

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102165 No. 102165 ID: 649f2c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I was in my first ever "selfie" today and shortly thereafter decided that my next selfie was going to be shot with a 0.45, the next thing that popped into my head was an amazing idea for the latest must-have rail mounted tacticool accessory. Its pretty simple, its a mirror that flips up behind the front sight to aid suicide artists in aiming. Also included is a push rod that when folded into place helps people using their rifle at this odd angle reach the trigger.
I call it "Custer's last accessory" after a book I read called "Keep the Last Bullet for Yourself" and I'm guessing that every edgy kid with an AR is going to want one, what do yall think?

MS paint drawing prototype later
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>> No. 102185 ID: 649f2c
yeah those fucking phones can do too much shit, they probably have an app where your waifu calculates windage for you.
i thought something that the iPhone can't do though, but as it turns out the tactical cup holder already exists
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>an app where your waifu calculates windage for you

Please, you're already out of date.

Having a holographic waifu AI act as your spotter is where it's at. Intelligent raifus.

Brb making Upotte real.
>> No. 102192 ID: 1f9d7a

also trucknuts have already been rail mounted and are hilariously not VFGs, leading to the conclusion that as long as it's art it's not a vertical grip per BATF. Yes, everything's already been done already.
>> No. 102254 ID: d4c8ee
>if you don't cup the nuts it's a felony
>> No. 102325 ID: 791f24
>displaying good trucknuts discipline at all times is a must for firearms safety

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98440 No. 98440 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Y/N? Suggestions? Around $1000 sounds fine to me. (Willing to go higher if there's something awesome.) I'm not super into long range... but want to get something pretty decent. (Don't think I'm into it enough to do Nightforce or US Optics.)

The shitty thing is, my local range only goes to 200 yards. I hear there's a 1000 yard range in WV, a couple hours away. One of my coworkers has some property up in PA with some range.


Magnification6-24 x
Objective Lens Diameter50 mm
Eye Relief4.0 inches
Field of View17.8-4.2 feet/100 yards
Tube Size30 mm
Turret StyleTactical
Adjustment Graduation.1 mrad
Travel per Rotation5 mrad
Max Elevation Adjustment19 mrad
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>> No. 102241 ID: 0064e9
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After WWII the Army incorporated induction dampening into the M1938 design. Induction dampening is a beautifully simple concept. It takes advantage of the inductive magnetic field generated between a swinging compass needle and a highly conductive but non-magnetic alloy like copper. When a magnetic needle (or bar) is placed inside a cup made of copper and the needle swings (oscillates) that movement causes a slight magnetic eddy current to form. When the needle swings to the left the eddy current pulls it to the right. When it swings to the right the eddy current pulls it to the left. The eddy current is self-canceling; as the needle oscillations decrease the eddy current strength decreases and very quickly the needle settles down and is aligned with magnetic north. Simple, elegant and effective.

However, by the late 1940s the Army decided it was time for a whole new design. The Army took the best functional elements of the M1938 compass – the lensatic sighting design and the combined degree and mil scales on the compass card – added induction dampening, a needle lift device, a much larger sighting lens and a larger thumb loop and placed it all in a beefed-up waterproof aluminum housing. The resulting compass was designated the M1950 Lensatic Compass. It is a rugged, versatile device that has remained in use with the US military for over 60 years, pretty much as originally designed.

- M1950 Lensatic Compass This particular compass was manufactured in February1953 by the Marine Compass Company out of Pembroke, Massachusetts. The cloudy dial cover is the result of the plastic aging. Remember, this compass is almost 60 years old!
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Same compass with the cover closed, showing the manufacturer and manufacturing date.
>> No. 102243 ID: 0064e9
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M1950 Lensatic Compass manufactured in 2010 by the Cammenga Corporation out of Michigan. This is a military issue compass that uses tritium inserts for night time illumination.
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The same compass with the cover closed. At the time of this writing Cammenga has been the sole supplier of lensatic compasses to the US military for over 10 years.
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Sometime in early 1942 a photographer asked General Patton to strike a pose doing something dramatic. I don’t know who’s idea it was to have him pull out his compass and shoot an azimuth to a distant point, but the resulting photo is interesting. Patton is standing beside his early M3 Stuart command tank and decked out in full battle regalia – tanker helmet and goggles, tanker jacket, binoculars, signature pistol at his side and an M1938 compass in his hands.

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  Anyone tried the Leupold VX-6 scopes?


I'm thinking about getting a variable mag scope for my 16" AR for 3-gun. I was looking at the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 and then got on to SuperSetCA's video here. (Fantastic production by the way.)

Any thoughts on this model or similar ones? 1-6 vs 1-4?

I've got pretty good eye sight and have been using Aimpoint H1 reddot thus far with no issues, but the furthest I've shot is inside of 100 yards. I'm just thinking for future use when I go to an event that supports longer range.
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>> No. 102113 ID: 393110
>> No. 102116 ID: 19518e
Looks like I'm not the only one with those concerns.

I do have to admit that the DR, on a purely performance-based evaluation, does seem like a great optic. When I think about using variable magnification optics like 1-4s or 1-6 or 1-8s or even that 1-10x by March Optics, how often would you dial between the minimum and maximum?

I mean sure if you're lazily plinking away you might dial something specific but within the hundred-whatever yards it'll be on 1x, and past that I'm pretty sure 99% of the time, the user will just rip that sucker to max so they can get a bead on quick. The Elcan at that point seems most logical, as it removes pretty much what you'd never use in the first place for a "fighting" optic. Makes me wonder if they make some sort of condom you could stretch over the Elcan to keep shmoo out so it doesn't go all sidewards if you get sand in the moving bits.

Either way I go back to >>102005. You could even streamline it further with a micro (pistol) red-dot and a fixed power scope.

tl;dr I hope to see optics come out in the future that are like an Aimpoint H1 that had sex with a Specter DR or a 1-8x S&B Short dot or something. Something bomb proof, killer battery life, throw-lever from 1x to whatever x.
>> No. 102117 ID: cad48c
I've got a SpecterDR 1.5-6x on my SCAR 17. I'm reasonably pleased with it, but that price is a pain in the balls for sure. My biggest gripe is that, while the thing seems pretty sturdy, for that kind of money I expect ELCAN to have a warranty like Vortex does -- it doesn't matter how it gets fucked up, a replacement gets sent. From what I can tell the warranty is pretty much bog standard.

Practically speaking, with the 1.5x I'm pretty happy to use it as a scan optic, and the 6x works good for precision. I'm pretty pleased with the reticle, and the illumination functions work well, though the full-on crosshair illumination is a little funky in that it doesn't actually illuminate the entire thing like one might expect. Not really a problem though, just odd.

Despite the fact that it's got a dot, picking up up fast will take a lot of practice and muscle memory. I wouldn't feel good snap shooting with one, but it does have basic irons on top and you can always add a red dot. I perched a little Vortex Venom up there, but haven't had a chance to play with it much since. One thing to note about the irons is that they're pretty low, so the front flip-up lens cover pretty damn near obscures it if you go that route. You can thin it out with a Dremel and have it workable, but frankly I expect better on a piece of kit this pricey.

In terms of logic, it looks like you're kinda on the same page I am. Fuck it, it's either lowest or max power, the middle range is almost never used. May as well make the transition fast and easy.

Long story short: It's a good optic, I like it. Is it $2500 good? Ehhhhhh... at that point you really need to play with one, IMO. Personal preference is what's going to decide that. Unfortunately, they can be a pain in the dick to find. Would I buy mine again? In the same circumstances, yeah, I probably would. It was a treat for myself and funded entirely by overtime cash worked explicitly for that purpose. I'd be a hell of a lot happier at a better price point or with a better warranty though.
>> No. 102186 ID: 226e7c
I have the strike eagle 1-6x

Pros: Awesome reticle, red dot feature is good and easy to use, eye relief/picture is better than scopes anywhere near that price range (But not still GREAT, just good), mine came with free caps too which is a plus, and obviously the price is great

Cons: Heavy, the dial to turn magnification is rough/small/slow to turn, eye relief changes as you change magnification is dramatic enough to require you to change your head position (But this is also true of other 1-4 or 1-6 scopes in this range)

IMO it's the best BUDGET 1-6x optic. It leaves a lot of "quality of life" features to be desired, but it knocks all the standards out of the park. I've had experience with a VX2, a burris, and a few other 1-4 or 1-6x scopes and I found this to be the best. Grab it on sale for $230 or so, and you can't go wrong

>Jerry Michulek(sp?) swears by the strike eagle and uses it in competitions, he keeps it dialed up at 6x and uses a vortex red dot at a 45 degree angle for the 1x shots
>> No. 102188 ID: 9dcda2
> Grab it on sale for $230 or so, and you can't go wrong

Interesting. I'd like to see if the next generation of v-mag scopes will come down in price thanks to Vortex.

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101621 No. 101621 ID: f41511 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So what is the general consensus on the 1911-380?

I think it looks interesting.
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>> No. 102145 ID: 9cb715
I always assumed Mexican 1911s would be mostly .38 Super.
>> No. 102150 ID: 52ed6e
They are.
>> No. 102151 ID: 454a4b
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Then why say it's already the standard in Mexico?
.380ACP (or .380 Auto) is not .38 Super
>> No. 102167 ID: 6d019b
Actually yeah, if it's scaled down it'd be kind of neat to mess with and what's the harm in another gun anyway?

I like the standard size 1911, a mini one would be adorable.
>> No. 102176 ID: db281d

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