>>108188
22lr

That's adorable.

I've heard it's a single shot. As sweet as that looks, if it doesn't feed from the magazine I'm a lot less interested. I mean, it doesn't look that hard to hide a CZ455 magazine in the Mosin magazine profile.

>>108197
It looks like a cricket barreled action with sights in a Mosin stock.

>>108201
Yeah, that's a bummer. I was hoping for something like the Norinco TU-KKW CZ clone I had, but in Mosin form.

>>108078
I'd still want to see tests. Buy one, put it in a backpack and fill the backpack with sand. Then shoot it with a powerful handgun and see how it performs. Also, it won't stop rifle rounds, which you will need a ceramic or steel plate for.

At a minimum, tell your kid to turn the backpack to the front during a shooting. Textbooks will do a lot to slow/stop bullets. From experience, 2 inches of phone book will stop a .22lr round. Obviously something like a .50AE will still be lethal, see the woman who got charged with manslaughter for killing her boyfriend after he asked her to shoot him in the chest with a Desert Eagle (while holding a book).

I'm not sure if "Ballistic Level IIIA Lab Tested" actually means anything. Since these are probably meant to be sold off to scared mothers, I'm guessing they used as little kevlar as possible to theoretically get to IIIA level and then skipped on the expensive process of actually getting anything NIJ certified.

They could still work but I'd want to see results for myself.

>>108091
>Don't think I'm trying to dissuade you from this project

Haha, bless your soul man. I'm from a no guns country and have no machinist skills, just a blue collar office guy. Just thought maybe somebody maybe already tried something similar or knows about it.

>>108091
If it were me doing a big bore rolling block, I'd be tempted by building a 10 or 12ga mag/supermag with slugs.

Comparatively much lower pressure and you've still got a big bang with a monster piece of lead going down range. Would be handy for stopping a charging waterbuffalo too.

>>108108
It would be cool to do what this dude is describing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sWnqIspa9o but in rolling block action.

>>108109
I mean, yeah, but effort.

.244 H&H is a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.244_H%26H_Magnum

>>108113
That´s a rifle round though, no? Smooth-bores are interesting in that, as the guy said, they don´t swage the bullet and don´t heat up as much and the length of the bullet not being an issue since you don´t have to figure out the twist rate. You can theoretically go crazy with hard exotic alloys since you don´t have to machine the rifling.

In the US, non-blackpowder smoothbore pistols are typically classified as a 'Any Other Weapon', subject to the rules of the National Firearms Act. Mostly has to do with the ATF considering them as short-barreled shotguns.

Google New England Firearms Handi-Gun, for reference.

>>108081
> Wouldn't smoothbores be a better solution

No. Tanks use smoothbore guns to accommodate the fin stabilized discarding sabot rounds. Rifling works really well to stabilize standard projectiles. I can't recall the name, but there was that company that put out smoothbore ARs with little nerf football shaped bullets.

> since the range at which such pistols are used is minimal

Accuracy is important. In a civilian defensive scenario, the saying goes that "There's a lawsuit attached to every stray round." Also, you don't always get to choose your engagement distance. Think about the police officers responding to the North Hollywood shootout.

> and you'd get the benefit of slightly higher muzzle velocity out of the same barrel length.

Pistols really don't have enough velocity to matter. You're throwing a chunk of lead that will impact a target and make a 9-12 mm hole in meat, probably break bones, and penetrate some light barriers. Really unless you hit something important like the heart, central nervous system, or some big arteries, it may not stop an attacker.

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power

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>>108085
>Really unless you hit something important like the heart, central nervous system, or some big arteries, it may not stop an attacker.

Sounds like like a fat long round keyholeing would be just the ticket.

Any of you guys heard of "Lancaster barrels"?

  whoa

  Ruger LCP II https://youtu.be/2bC45tI26io
Would not feed SIG ammo well. Winchester and Speer worked fine.

  Ruger LCP II https://youtu.be/D4x11YeGLYw

>>105955
Odd. Mine does not seem to care what ammo you use in it, but I really need to pull the slide back all the way very hard.

solomon carter at work in 2015

  colonmon sharter

https://gunowners.co/new-annual-membership
Join or die!

SAF and FPC are solid bets, GOA is a bit problematic.
Donate directly to the NRA-ILA, the main org needs to drop Ack-Mac.

>>108092

>>108038
Huh?

>>108038

*It Ain't Me* plays at half speed and off pitch softly in the background.

>>108034
Yeah I was trying to order from a website I used to have working at a sporting goods store that has a military discount as well. I just need to figure out what is actually legal beagle to have on me. I bought a $20 leatherman kick off of ebay for now since my wife has no idea where my wave is back home. The knife isn't much, but it'll work for now.

>>108036
Sold. Still gay, but I can make that bottom setup work.

>>108038
WTF, over.

>>108038
I like it, would look nice with wood handguards and a wood stock.

>>108038
DAT, CamoCowboy and I ended up doing this.

It's so fucking weird but stupid maneuverable

>>108009
>what makes you think Trump will legalize new full autos?
bump stocks are dangerous nigger-rigged garbage, people who need high firepower weapons to defend themselves and their property should have purpose built weapons that can be operated safely, not slapped together aftermarket plastic bullshit.

>>107999
Qft

>>107999
Qft

  Trump banned bump stocks by executive order on Dec 18, 2018. “A 90 period now begins which persons in possession of bump stock type devices must turn those devices to an ATF field office, or destroy them by March 21.”
Now, if you're not familiar with what a bump stock is, here is the description of these things from the 157 page finalized rule from the US Department of Justice: "These devices convert and otherwise semiautomatic firearm into a machine gun by functioning as a self acting or self regulating mechanism that harnesses the recoil energy of the semiautomatic firearm in a manner that allows the trigger to reset and continue firing without additional physical manipulation by the trigger or of the trigger by the shooter."
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13635046/Bump-Stock-Final-Rule.0.pdf

It is impossible to know just how many bump stocks Americans own because the devices aren’t traceable, but ATF has estimated that between 280,000 and about 520,000 have been sold since 2010. White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said President Donald Trump was “once again fulfilling a promise he made to the American people.” Trump had promised the ban in March, saying the devices “turn legal weapons into illegal machines.” https://www.apnews.com/6c1af80fb290472c89fb930e223505af
President Donald Trump Administration Bans Bump Stocks | NBC Nightly News https://youtu.be/XgI3pRID_bM

>>108014
There's no more reason to restrict this than anything else people home brew or other dumb shit of dubious quality.
Go fuck yourself.

you see the other loophole on that one is that where the constitution of the government united states, it's very being and soul, opens with "we the people" so when the law claims a right to do such and such to place the government above the law as in this case an claims that right for "the united states" they're claiming that for you. you're part of the united states, you're one of us "we the peoples".
it is also nice to note that the people who composed that legislation way back when were educate and skilled enough to obey the no ipso facto claws (rawr) and allow current owners to keep their legal full auto guns. the people trying to ban hi capacity mags don't seem to be as educated, they have a "turn them in" mentality.

>>108047
>no ipso facto claws
Do you mean Ex Post Facto? It's one of my pet peeves when people bring that up in discussions of gun bans. It just means they can't punish you for the act of having bought a gun (or whatever) that was legal at the time you bought it. It doesn't mean they can't criminalize possession of it going forward. It's a pretty simple distinction and people get it wrong ALL THE DAMN TIME.

  Yes, ex post facto (retroactive) criminal laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws). Ex post facto laws are allowed in civil matters, administrative laws, or in criminal matters that do not strictly create a punishment, such as in Smith v. Doe (2003) that forcing sex offenders to register their whereabouts at regular intervals, and the posting of personal information about them on the Internet, do not violate the constitutional prohibition against ex post facto laws, because "these laws do not impose any kind of punishment".

BUT... ex post facto laws may apply to gun possession rights. In the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, where firearms prohibitions were imposed on those convicted of misdemeanor domestic-violence offenses and on subjects of restraining orders (which do not require criminal conviction). These individuals can now be sentenced to up to ten years in a federal prison for possession of a firearm, regardless of whether the weapon was legally possessed when the law was passed. The law has been legally upheld because it is considered regulatory, not punitive; it is a status offense. United States v. Emerson, 270 F.3d 203 (5th Cir. 2001). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Emerson

In criminal law, ex post facto laws criminalize actions that were legal when committed; it may aggravate a crime by bringing it into a more severe category than it was in when it was committed; it may change the punishment prescribed for a crime, as by adding new penalties or extending sentences; or it may alter the rules of evidence in order to make conviction for a crime likelier than it would have been when the deed was committed. Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly called an amnesty law may decriminalize certain acts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law https://youtu.be/-RZrFWOVugY

>>108049
>sentenced to up to ten years
>fnord
>not punitive

>>108050
Yeah, I provided the case and citation because people just might not believe that one! A person that has legally purchased firearms but later was charged with (not necessarily convicted) misdemeanor domestic abuse or had a restraining order placed on him better get rid of all of his guns immediately because if he is caught in possession of even a previously legally-obtained firearm, it means ten years in prison. This may be a tactic for using a restraining order to get a spouse or other person arrested for gun possession.

If I remember right, keeping your illegal weapons at a relative's or friend's house (or a storage locker) until your case is adjudicated may not be good enough as the courts may see you are still in constructive possession of the weapons because of your easy access to them.

Here's the whole appellate decision: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1332436.html