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No. 103656 ID: 1989a8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  For a modest price of 7500$ you too can see the legend come back to life!
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>> No. 103740 ID: bec165
>>103731

I felt insulted when their hits at 100m seem like some unobtainable achievement. I mean, I guess the RMR on my Roland could be considered cheating, but it really isn't that big of a deal to get hits on steel at 100m, with some practice and understanding of your sight picture at that distance of course.

I was about to close the video when I saw Rob Pincus, I closed it when I saw "hydrostatic shock".

If SVI can make a 100% barstock billet 1911 or 2011 for less money than this with the same accuracy guarantee, wtf are they doing?

Yes, for $7500 you could have a grade 9 titanium 1911 made (with microwelded tool steel rails to eliminate galling) that generally will shoot .5" groups or better with AET rifling.

Or hell, you could start a Korth collection, or two SVIs, or multiple forged in the halls of Mount Doom custom 1911s that I promise you have better attention to detail and craftsmanship than this does.

Btw, Les Baers are rather well priced (bit above some of the better production guns like the Colt Rail Gun, Springfield TRP, Dan Wesson Valor).
>> No. 103741 ID: 19518e
>>103740
All those guns you mentioned are things that are already proven, all the plans and tooling are already done, to quote the post you linked to
"...riding a hundred year wave of Browning's legacy. 1911s are understood in every way"

All those manufacturers just have to make what is already made and do it with attention to detail and closer fits. It's like doing a cover of a song when everybody and their mothers have the music sheets and the instruments, SVI/les baer/everygucci1911brand just comes in, picks up the guitars and microphone, and plays the same old song.

The accuracy ends up being the same, but FK has to write a new song from scratch, that's the actually complicated and expensive part.

Yes their marketing is annoying as hell and going "wow we're amazing hitting stuff 100 yards nevah been dun befoh muh hydroquantumshox see we can use buzzwords too".
>> No. 103742 ID: 1989a8
>>103741
Doesn't hydrostatic shock become relevant when the projectile goes above 2000 fps? FK only has 2000 fps at the muzzle though. On the other hand, it dropped an elk without vertebra damage which is very impressive if it wasn't staged.
>> No. 103743 ID: 19518e
>>103742
I'm no terminal ballistician, but from what I understand "hydrostatic shock" is damage to some types of tissues and/or organs from a large enough temporary cavity caused by a projectile. The size of the temporary cavity is related to the projectile's weight, diameter, speed, upset (tumbling), expansion or fragmentation. This temporary cavity, if large and violent enough, can increase the trauma and physiological shock to the target beyond the permanent cavity. I remember reading theories of nervous system damage from this temporary cavity effect, but I can't say I know if it was speculation or confirmed by legitimate scientific process. I do imagine, all else being equal, a larger temporary cavity would probably hurt more but pain is an extremely unreliable factor in incapacitation of a creature at best.

12 gauge slugs are very large, heavy, made of soft lead, and from what I know, can create very large temporary cavities regardless of the relatively slow velocity (well under 2000ft/s) of the projectile. Conversely, the 223 with a proper bullet can also impart devastating damage beyond what one would expect from a small projectile.

In the case of most handguns, there is neither weight or speed sufficient to do anything but look impressive in a gel test. Gel and high-speed cameras can make basically anything look like the new wonderbullet is like a high explosive autocannon round. From Fackler's reports, yes the general speed required to have enough energy to make temporary cavity matter is around 2000ft/s, but bullet weight and construction (expansion, tumbling, fragmentation) are important factors in this rule of thumb.

Hunters have been taking large game with smaller calibers for a long time, with a bullet that can go deep enough, I would imagine that countless medium-to-large animals have been taken with lever actions in modest chamberings assuming shot placement was good. Hunting is often anecdotal and very case-by-case, the animal's reaction to being shot can never really be predicted with perfect accuracy. Maybe they shot a dozen game before landing on the one elk that just gave up after getting a hole poked in it. There's a video of some guys shooting a small doe with a 50BMG and it taking a football-sized scoop right out the exit side, and the doe still ran for a few seconds. There's plenty of videos of hunters sack-of-potatoes-drop on larger animals with a whole lot less than the 50BMG, like 357 Magnums.

The 7.5 round is basically a 30 carbine round (as if shot from a long barrel) from a pistol barrel. Whatever you can kill with an M1 carbine, you could do with the 7.5 from the pistol.
>> No. 103747 ID: 1989a8
>>103743
I'm just saying that an aproximately 100 grain bullet goes into the target at supersonic speeds so their claims of effective hydrostatic damage may not be a just marketing meme. No amout of accurate or meme marketing claims justifies that fucking price tho. Would be interesting to see if they make any actual military AP ammo for it and how will it look if they do.


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103708 No. 103708 ID: e9af5c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Does anyone know of a double rifle chambered in 454 casull that accepts 45 colt and .410?
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>> No. 103713 ID: 4d69b8
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>> No. 103714 ID: 4d69b8
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7 shot Raging Judge .410 Speed Loader is made from solid billet aluminum looks quite nice.
https://www.5starfirearms.com/7RJ-410-Speed-Loader-p/tf41007000.htm
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6 shot Raging Judge .454 Speed Loader
http://www.5starfirearms.com/6RJ-454-Speed-Loader-p/tf45406000.htm
>> No. 103717 ID: e9af5c
>>103710

I've seen those, but a double rifle that has usage for big and small game would just be handy. Pedersolli (I think that's how you spell it) has a new production double barrel 45 long colt with chambers long enough for .410, all in a pistol format. A stock with 454 and longer barrel could really suit my needs (wants).
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>>103709
And here's one by Pedersoli.
https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/tipologia-prodotti.asp/l_en/idt_61/rifles-kodiak-mark-iv.html


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103685 No. 103685 ID: 2a93dd hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/05/05/details-on-the-ussocom-sponsored-keymod-vs-m-lok-test-conducted-at-nswc-crane
>> No. 103690 ID: 13f512
told.
>> No. 103701 ID: 9dcda2
  >>103685
The moment I saw KDG's Kinect system, I knew M-LOK was the winner.


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103605 No. 103605 ID: d5bb74 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Help me operators!

Having ejection issues with a romy G build. Every spent case gets stuck in the dust cover/ action.. Pull the dust cover off and run it and it shoots and cycles fine. About a five o'clock ejection at about 5-7yrds. This has only began within the last two hundred rounds. Had the gun for years and it always ran great.

Included are pictures of the ejector with obvious peening on the face. Im fearing this might be the issue. What does everyone think?
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>> No. 103626 ID: 8c968b
how long have you had this thing? The ejector looks suspiciously beat, like shit has chipped off on the corner. I don't know if it is enough to effect the function but even on my relatively high round count AK's, it doesn't look like that. It is smooth with a shiny spot where the case has been hitting.

That aside, if you have another working AK handy. You should try and compare the position of the ejector's front face to that one. I had a very VERY troublesome AKS74 that always had ejection issues (stovepipes mostly). The ejector was sitting way back compared to the ejector on my other AK. I had to grind off the spot welds and re-weld on a new ejector rail further up (didn't know how to weld/have a welder at the time, other than a spot welder). It works great now.
>> No. 103635 ID: 6a7d74
>>103626
Owned it nearly two years now.less than 700rounds through it by me.I suspect the damage is from the bolt hitting it and just being a cheaper or bad heat treated rail.
>> No. 103644 ID: 813f6b
>>103635
>I suspect the damage is from the bolt hitting it

I think you'd feel it in the bolt if that were the case.

>or bad heat treated rail.

That appears to be the most likely suspect in my opinion.
I guess you also mostly shot steel cased? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that might have sped up the wear.
>> No. 103646 ID: 6a7d74
>>103644
Its definitely the bolt. Can see light wear marks on the bolt from where it makes contact.
>> No. 103666 ID: 05187c
careful welding the extractor, I did and had to file it just right, otherwise my ak wouldnt eject at all.


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103637 No. 103637 ID: 5cefee hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
can someone tell me the capabilities of this free speech unit?
i can tell from the exhaust system that it can protect/prevent free speech (probably depends on what the speaker is saying) in about 2 meters of water.
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>> No. 103643 ID: 813f6b
From the shaped hull, it seems to be primarily designed to increase survivability of the crew in case a mine goes off. When a mine goes off, your primary gas tank might be gone, but it might have a secundary internally to at least limp home.

Either way, a hugely retarded choices for LE. They should have other priorities.
>> No. 103653 ID: ab8f24
>>103643
>They should have other priorities.

But but ISIS and homegrown right wing turrurrists and and and and...

Gets harder to distinguish between the police and the military every year. Unfortunately, that seems to be the point.
>> No. 103654 ID: d4c8ee
>>103643
Who cares about mine protection when it's free from the DOD and offers the same ballistic protection as a Bearcat?
>> No. 103655 ID: 74b296
>>103654
free except you have to pay for the maintence. Oh and the DOD can recall it back if they need it.
>> No. 103665 ID: d4c8ee
>>103655
>free except you have to pay for the maintence

A relatively minor cost, and there are DHS grants for stuff like that.

>the DOD can recall it back if they need it.

Which has only affected tracked vehicles (M113s) and the agencies returning them get priority for a armored HMMWV or MRAP to replace it.


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103519 No. 103519 ID: b430d1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
what kind of gun is this?
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>> No. 103532 ID: 22c903
holi Shit, its like lookin a six way mirror
>> No. 103624 ID: 031b25
Captain Sweden strikes again!
>> No. 103649 ID: 815268
Deagle Mk I WWI prototype
>> No. 103650 ID: 5c87e8
is that ball ammo or API Anus Piercing Immunodeficiency?
>> No. 103651 ID: 6057a8
>>103650
Could be APIT Anus Piercing Internal Trauma.


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102932 No. 102932 ID: 7c3c05 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I don't own any snubby revolvers and they're not my favorite class of firearm, but I want to be more gooder at shootan and stuff.

I went to a range yesterday and rented a stainless Airweight and put fifty rounds of .38 through it at seven yards, with results attached. Head shots required me to slow down enough that I would not have been comfortable trying this against an armed and hostile opponent, instead of a motionless paper target. I did get five for five. The alert observer may have noticed that the hole in the middle is a bit elongated.

Impressions: it's hard to see and align stainless sights in a hurry under a lot of lighting conditions, especially when you're fighting a twelve-pound trigger attached to a twelve-ounce firearm that has a sight radius of about three inches.

I expected recoil was much worse, having heard horror stories for years about how lightweight snubbies will bounce the fillings right out of your teeth. Ammo was Fiocchi 125gr truncated-cone FMJ, not designated +P. I have never seen chrono data for this ammo and have no idea how much velocity it had, but the flat pointed bullets made neat round holes in the paper target. Muzzle flash was an enormous white fireball and I could feel the warmth of it on my face and hands--but empties dropped out of the chambers with no effort required other than holding the gun muzzle-up with the cylinder open and shaking it a bit. Primers don't look flattened, nor cratered.

A lot of my shots went low and/or low and left. The diagnostic target suggests I may be jerking the trigger and/or pushing down with my thumb and/or tightening my grip while I drag the trigger back.

I did figure out eventually that the J-frame's lockwork, at least on that particular example, had two soft hitches, or hesitations, that I could feel just before the hammer dropped, and that I could use this to stage the trigger. That helped some.

I am sure someone here knows more about running a snubby revolver than I do. Is there anything I'm missing here, other than needing more practice with this particular class of firearm?
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>> No. 103036 ID: 7c3c05
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>>103007
>Have you tried the Smith & Wesson Model 640 Pro? A 5-shot .357 Magnum with a 2.13-inch barrel.

I have not. I did last year try a the Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum, a less pretty but lightweight polymer framed snubby.

I have to say that fifty rounds of American Eagle 158gr softnoses were just about as much fun as I really wanted to have. And I don't consider myself especially recoil-sensitive, at least with handguns. Smith 29s and 629s with full-power .44 Mag ammo are, for me, fun (within the limits of my DA shooting), not punishing. But that LCR in .357 was a bit much.
>> No. 103038 ID: 9dcda2
  >>103035
That's the one.

>>103034
>I want to be more skilled at using all types of firearms

I'm with you here. I understand people who train on one type and that's it. But I like guns too much to do that. I'm decent with damn near anything and good with any proper firearm. With revolvers, just go with a decent quality Smith or Ruger with a 4" or 6" barrel, and actually enjoy shooting it.

> but short-barreled .38 Special revolvers strike me as being 1898's answer to questions about concealable handguns for self-defense. The 20th Century had better answers to those questions, and the 21st Century has better answers still.

Yes. I crack up at stories of people still carrying 38 revolvers in Vietnam.

> using the stance and grip from this old training film

No, just no.
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>> No. 103044 ID: 813f6b
>>103034
>I can get faster hits and hold the X-ring using the sights. For me, at least, point shooting doesn't seem to work very well.

An interesting test to do, is to put a humansized target at 10 yards, place your feet in the correct shooting position and have the gun at low ready. Now close your eyes and bring the gun up to your natural point of aim and slowly fire off a round or 3 with your eyes still closed.

While not perfectly grouped, they'll be in about the same area and will show you if it's actually your stance that's throwing you off. Or well, you could just be pulling every shot, but that is something that someone watching you should be able to tell you. If there's no obvious reason why you're fucking up the shots, it's likely because you're fighting your natural stance.
>> No. 103638 ID: 7c3c05
>>103044
I did this at the range today, though I was trying something I'd just purchased which was a bit muzzle heavy--a Ruger Mk III "Hunter" with the 6 7/8" fluted target barrel.

Got 7 of 10 on paper, all low, in a pattern only slightly less wide than the entire paper target, which was another B27.

I will need to do this again with other firearms to see whether it's the long heavy barrel that makes me shoot low or something else, I think.
>> No. 103645 ID: 813f6b
>>103638

If the Hunter is atypical (in length, front weight and very importantly, the grip angle) it might be normal at first that you're not tracking as you should. That said, I've have expected them all to be on paper. Seems rather inconsistent if you're all over the place.


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103536 No. 103536 ID: 028b36 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Got my CQR today, it was a nice surprise, I was checking the order status like crazy last week… nothing.
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>> No. 103618 ID: 040900
>>103617
Holds in the detent spring for the fire select.
In the standard AR grip the spring just goes in a hole in the grip.

but VE MAKE IT BETTER, JA?
>> No. 103620 ID: ad8094
>>103618
Correct, normally AR pistol grip install up into the receiver but CQR has to come in from the back because of the buffer tube so the spring has to be installed afterward

A bunch people on /k/inder is saying mine is a bootleg/knockoff and theirs doesn't look like mine and better. But no one has offered actual photo of their taken apart stock.

Also please stand by for range report, I haven't have time to take pictures but both Frankengun and Stoplossed doesn't like the stock. It functions but they feel meh about it.
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103623
>>103620
One of the thing I didn't like about the stock is the cheek weld area feels odd. Look at the Magpul MOE/CTR it's slightly larger compare to the CQR which made the CQR a little bit less comfortable to rest my face on it.
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>> No. 103632 ID: f2172d
Handled the Cali-compliant HERA stock today. You're right Mammit, those mold lines are rather noticeable.


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103592 No. 103592 ID: d03cad hide watch quickreply [Reply]
If fucgn only. I'd get it. I wan't one so bad now.
Site was a tease. Fuck those people. What do yall think?
>inb4 old

https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/exile-machine-revolving-rifle-conv-kit-fits-ar-15-95745.html
>> No. 103593 ID: f2172d
this is reddit tier faggotry, especially for a fake product.
>> No. 103597 ID: b70387
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103597
Yeah, man. I want my alien shoulder thing that goes up. It's pretty highly reviewed.

http://www.exilemachine.net/shop/reviews/alien-shoulder-thing-that-goes-up-21111/customers-review-53.html
>Best laser blaster I ever used. Total disintegration. Just awkward ducking through heavy cover.
>> No. 103598 ID: 9dcda2
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103598
>>103592
Based Exile Machine.
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Reminds me of reading about people making space gun props for movies and placing a blank-firing revolver or starter pistol inside it.
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>>103603
>Reminds me of reading about people making space gun props for movies and placing a blank-firing revolver or starter pistol inside it.

But you just posted 2 real guns in one (only 1 left functional though). :)

Charter Arms 44Spl Police Bulldog + Steyr Mannlicher 222 Model SL


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103368 No. 103368 ID: 220d82 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So Grumpier left me a pile of muzzle loaders - all are reproductions - some flintlock, some cap-n-ball, some Civil War, some frontiersman... I helped make some of these guns when I was a kid and shot the Hell out of them.

Trouble is I don't remember the details. FF powder for the barrel, FFF for the pan? How many grains of FF do I start with?

I've been told there's a rough formula that for a .35 caliber you start with 35 grains, for a .50 caliber, 50 grains and so on. That seems grossly too easy. I can mic out all the barrels and get exact calibers, but assume I have quite a few. Any good starting tips on what I should be buying and how much I should be loading?

Will take some pics soon, but for now, here's a generic one I stole from the Interbutts.
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103524
I'm going to hijack this. Not muzzle loading, but I shot my Pietta 1860 yesterday for the first time yesterday. I'm a total n00b when it comes to black powder.

1) I cleaned up using a mix of vinegar and water (shooting Pyrodex) using an old toothbrush, cleaning rod, and a copper wire (for the nipple holes). Is there some better solution for cleaning up Pyrodex? Also, how urgent is it to neutralize the salts? I cleaned it same day but I didn't wash it at the range immediately after shooting.

2) I topped each cylinder with bore butter because I had read you need to "season" new barrels. Long-term, how much lubricant should you be shooting?

3) Hard to say, but how many shots/fowling accumulate before it begins to affect accuracy? Trying to decide if it's worth bringing a whole cleaning kit to the range.
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103569
>>103368
>>103404
I heard a neat trick to dial in your powder is to get a tarp and just shoot over it. Any presence of unburnt powder should indicate that you should use less and adjust from there.

I've also been using FFF powder as primer in my flintlock with less than moderate success. Would recommend FFFF to prime the pan
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103574
What is meant by a "muzzle-loading bolt action?"
>> No. 103578 ID: 72cb51
  >>103574
They are also called "in-line muzzle-loaders" where the bolt's firing pin strikes the percussion cap you place over the nipple when you open the bolt.
How To Load & Fire a Bolt Action Muzzleloader Rifle - Muzzle-Loaders.com https://youtu.be/gKlyvTnhgGk
>> No. 103602 ID: 22c903
>>103578
>>103574
yo DAWG I herd you like bein a Fudd while you Fudd.


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