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103091 No. 103091 ID: ad8094 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Through trading and selling I have a Mossberg 500 JIC (gen 1 I guess, the green one) everything minus the shotgun. What are some suggestion to keep in it? Beside the obvious... a shotgun

Also a general prepping thread
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>> No. 103102 ID: 1611fc
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>>103100
A lot of it really depends on how bad things get, and how long they stay that way. If things are bad enough for long enough, eventually guns are going to become easier to come by than ammo. In such a case, having a box or two of a few of the more common calibers that you don't actually already have a gun for certainly won't hurt. As long as you're not sacrificing adding to your primary stocks in order to pick up outliers.

Pic somewhat related.
>You got a guuuunnn.....well shit, it ain't loaded. Eh...They never are.
>> No. 103103 ID: 16a605
>>103100
>22lr conversion BCG.
Are fine for practice and plinking. If you need reliability and accuracy, you need a dedicated .22lr upper.
>> No. 103106 ID: 813f6b
>>103103
>Are fine for practice and plinking. If you need reliability and accuracy, you need a dedicated .22lr upper.

And a conversion BCG does nothing to prevent fouling everywhere.
Dedicated upper (or separate gun) is really what you want.
>> No. 103107 ID: 19518e
>>103103
>>103106
>>103100
>dedicated 22LR upper
>22LR conversion BCG

For survival stuff, honestly, I would either forgo the BCG and have a Ruger MKwhatever, or have a 22LR rifle. The pistol will be about the size and weight of the BCG kit with 22 magazines, yet be more reliable, more accurate (with a steady hand), and will keep the rifle in good clean shape when 223 medicine is required. If you can spare more than that, such as an upper, or if you think you'll need more than 22LR pistol practical accuracy, jump straight to a Marlin 795 or 70PSS or 10/22 Takedown. Although I lean to the Marlin rifles for various reasons, a comparable 22 rifle will be close in size/weight to the upper, and be very practical for all situations in need of 22LR when a pistol wouldn't be as effective.

>AR7?
I'd rather have a Ruger MKwhatever and zip-tie some pool flotation foam to it. It'll be more accurate, more reliable, more durable, smaller, and lighter overall. The AR7 to my mind was a decent idea, but so poorly executed that it is mostly self-defeating. Marlin and Ruger takedown models perform brilliantly and do what the AR7 wanted to do without being that much heavier or bulkier. Remember that although the AR7 sounds compact, when you hold one, it really ends up being like a fucking Michelin-Man rifle; puffed out and comically lumpy from having to stuff itself in its own stock.

Then there's the Browning carbine things. I've always wondered if one could be offered with a removable stock setup to basically do an effective pistol-becomes-rifle job. I know that putting a stock on a pistol in the USA is a legal problem, but with paperwork or if we are in a survival situation, this issue could be irrelevant.
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>>103107
>>103106
>>103103
>>103102

I had a lengthy reply writtend own but forgot about it... doesn't matter. This will interest folks like you. Get your own tanks:

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2/t-72-42#currency=USD
http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2/t-55-278#currency=USD

50k$$$ for a T-72 doesn't even sound that bad. If I had the land I'd buy one, restore it, built a parcour for it and let midlife crisis dads ride a tank for an hour. Sounds like a sound business to me.

>inb4 KILLDOZER


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99676 No. 99676 ID: 1519ac hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Does anyone have an adjustable gas block they would be willing to take apart and photograph, and if possible measure with calipers or micrometers? I'm specifically interested in the part that actually cuts off gas flow, and any detent system or other system the locks the adjustment. I'm in the process of putting together a lightweight AR and don't really want to drop the money on an adjustable titanium block, so I was considering making one. Maybe I'm over thinking this and all I need is a ball detent interfacing with straight knurling on a standard socket head cap screw. Maybe I need to make a custom screw with axial slots to engage the detent. I don't know. So any advice, pictures or other insights are welcome. Comments on who makes the best adjustable gas block are also welcome.
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>>102888
Oh boy! Better not let Cuomo know there are a dozen shops in WNY still selling pic related with a welded muzzle device.

It's not like it's enforced at private ranges either.
>> No. 102890 ID: 1519ac
>>102889
I know it's not enforced and no one cares, I can't even remember how many people have told me about their unregistered AWs. I'm just trying to make sure that people who are breaking the law know that they are so they can take the precautions they deem appropriate. I've sheriff's deputies tell me to just ignore the safe act, but personally I'm not taking the chance that every LEO I run across will feel the same.
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>>99684
>>102328
Cut some more off the carrier today. Down to 216 grams from a starting point of 268. I think I'm gonna leave it there for now.
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BEHOLD MY FINAL FORM!

5.07 lbs with no mag. Kinda disappointed with the weight. I feel like the NY legal stock is holding me back. Could have gone with a spur grip I guess but I feel like they wouldn't give you enough control. Oh well, it's still light. Haven't shot it yet as the thread protector isn't welded and I haven't torqued the barrel.
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>>103119
You could take off the rubber buttpad to reduce the weight even further, maybe go for an ultralight mount for the MRO too.


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103109 No. 103109 ID: d8fc32 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I've had this for about 12yrs stashed away in a box. Any ideas on the country of origin?
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Stamp on the other. It looks like a sword through a gear, with S E on either side of the sword in the gear. I can't quite make out what it says under the gear though
>> No. 103112 ID: d8fc32
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Lug hole
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>Toledo Military Spanish INI Rifle Bayonet Sword Knife & Scabbard

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/Spain/spain_2.html
>> No. 103115 ID: 9790ae
>>103113
That was a quick reply,thanks for taking the time to help me.


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103021 No. 103021 ID: cad48c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Neat.

Looks like a much more DIY-friendly idea for rifling barrels has cropped up. Might merit some experimentation / refinement by some of the locals, and certainly on my extended to-do list.

Makes me miss the STEM board.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/03/02/diy-barrel-rifling-using-salt-water-electricity-3d-printed-jig/
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>> No. 103056 ID: 7c3c05
>>103049
I can't even imagine how you do that. Did you build a really tiny Bridgeport mill as the first step? Seriously, that's impressive.
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>>103056
it's not that hard. Behold my workhorse, and old WW2 pattern lathe of dubious origins!
Threading his done with a die held in the hand and the slot in the head is made with a special file, called a slotting file.
>> No. 103058 ID: 19518e
>>103057
What thread is it? It looks quite a bit smaller than a 0-80...
>> No. 103060 ID: 1b9ff7
>>103058
good question. The die set is packed away god knows where now, but it does not use metric or US standards for thread pitch. It's probably close to a metric 0.5x0.125
>> No. 103061 ID: 1519ac
>>103060
Twenty thou diameter by five thou pitch? Wow.


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102898 No. 102898 ID: 7c3c05 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So, of late I've been thinking about adding an SAA clone or something similar to my collection. Does anyone have any experience with Pietta, Uberti, Traditions, and the other brands made by the Italian clone makers?

Any recommendations on barrel length, in terms of balance or handling qualities? I've seen pictures of a not especially historically correct 3.5" barreled variant that looks pleasingly purposeful and businesslike to my eye, but I've not picked one up. I already have a GP100 in .357 and have some .357 ammo on hand, so that's the logical caliber for this to be.

I do noticed that the fixed-sight SAA clones tend to have a rather primitive sight setup, with the rear sight a shallow notch in the top of a curved frame, and I am not sure whether I'm supposed to put the top of the front sight even with the top of the frame on either side or raise it up so it's in line with where the missing part of the topstrap would be. I much prefer the sight picture we get with a modern (well, mid to late 20th Century) fixed-sight service revolver, but no one is making an SAA clone with that little change to the frame.
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I've got an 1860 Army from Uberti, pretty neat little gun. It's mostly a show piece as I hardly ever have the patience for black powder. I do however enjoy it when I do force myself to take it out and do the damn thing.

I'm afraid i'm entirely unfamiliar with their line of SAA or anything besides my specific example.
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I've got a little 22 clone, the FIE Little Ranger. Fun little gun just for the range but I've been wanting to upgrade to something a bit bigger.

What I'd love to find is what my dad had years and years ago. It was SAA kit. Completely stripped, needed everything done from assembly to I think painting. He had it nice, engraved it himself. Even bought different barrels and cylinders for it so it was a higher caliber (not sure which) and a .22. Unfortunately one of my family members nabbed it well before I was old enough to get it.

I'd love to find something like that for myself, I think pretty much building my own Peacemaker would be bretty awesome.

Pic related, not my gun but identical.
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I see that at Uberti they've been playing with period styling, and have introduced an SAA clone with an octagonal barrel. Neither Colt nor the Remington 1875/1890 had an octagonal barrel, but some period firearms did, and it's not bad looking.

But now for some reason I'm imagining an SAA clone with a tapered "pencil barrel" profile like you see on older S&W duty revolvers in .38 Special, complete with the prewar style round "half nickel" front sight that was semicircular in profile. And a slightly altered topstrap at the rear for a proper Patridge style square notch rear sight with that portion of the topstrap level on either side. Would it look like some kind of generic early 20th Century firearm? Probably not, it'd probably look silly.
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>>102906
My very close cousin eloped a year and a half ago with a girl he'd been dating for only a few months (I met her since. She's a lovely woman), denying me a chance to get one of my favorite people in the world a wedding gift. Backwoods Okie that he is, I'm considering getting him a showy single action revolver for his second anniversary. An SAA would be the obvious choice, but I'm leaning towards a Schofield.
>> No. 103054 ID: f56d36
I had a 5.5 inch .357 magnum Uberti Horseman. The hotseman is drop safe and and you can load 6. You can barely feel .38 and .357 is softer than similar sized double action revolvers. Even with the old style sights I could hit clay doves in midair. Personally I think if you're gonna go for a fudd gun you should go full fudd instead of getting one of those Rugers that are half modern half original without the charm of the old and the practicallity of modern guns.


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103029 No. 103029 ID: 9d3fa9 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Can we share AR experiences in these threads as well?
>go to Marine bootcamp
>finally the day we get issued our M16A4 service rifle
>step up to the window at the armory
>Lance Corporal hands me a rifle
>"heh, I'd prefer something with more stopping power, but hey if this is what Uncle Sam wants the boys using, I guess I can deal with it."
>few weeks later we're at the range
>recommend to the Range Instructor that they put better attachments on these things
>chat it up for a minute, talking about how much you could increase aim stability with a foregrip and a comp
>he says he'll be back in a minute
>comes back with a box of parts
>"we really only let the SOCOM guys use these, but you're pretty good. So I'll let you put some of this on your rifle."
>put an AFG, IR sniper scope, and a silencer on my rifle
>score perfect on my shooting qual
needless to say, I was guide and honor graduate and went to Special Ops training right after that. Told them I didn't even want my 10 days of leave, I couldn't look at my family the same way...
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>> No. 103040 ID: aadd02
6/10. It's worth an amused snort. You kinda fell into this awkward spot. It needed to be either more subtle or even more over the top. You'll get better though.
>> No. 103047 ID: f2172d
>>103029
Fuck off back to kinder
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103048
Slow down there Timmy, there is some 18+ y/o content on this website. Are you sure you asked your parents permission before you logged on?
>> No. 103051 ID: 952452
About time some smart people began enlisting. You'll be a Major in no time with that kind of skill!
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>>103029
Nice.


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102361 No. 102361 ID: aec7e7 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
I heard tell that the /k/ommandos here were very generous and have given guns away before. Sirs, I am extremely poor and much desire a nugget. Is there anyone here who would have a beater to donate?
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>>102870
With Diopter sights.

It was mostly luck.
>> No. 102894 ID: fb893e
>>102869
I meant to do that with my K31s, but sold them first. They were more accurate than I was with irons, so it probably didn't matter.

>>102858
Did you try it again? I'm curious if was a problem with the weather or the gun itself. I also can't hurt to check the action screws and even barrel bands. I can't imagine that would have an effect from shooter to shooter, but if things are loose you might get odd results from shot to shot. My CZ 527FS had that issue when I first got it - the rear sight was tight in the barrel channel, and once the barrel heated up, warped slightly, and tensioned against the stock the gun patterned. Some filing/sanding in the barrel channel pretty much fixed it.
>> No. 102902 ID: 9dcda2
>>102894
Nope, didn't shoot again. My buddy probably had some honey-do's to take care of. I might have just been fucking up that day.
>> No. 103020 ID: e51ea5
https://www.centerfiresystems.com/c-137-firearms.aspx#Pg1|
>> No. 103031 ID: e7e851
>>103020

That just links to the main site, did they have a nugget deal?


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102941 No. 102941 ID: aadd02 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
How do you shoot them? Went to a gun show with my father-in-law yesterday (I thought he was nogunz for life because of a DV misdemeanor conviction years ago. Turns out, he had a misdemeanor for violating the restraining order, but the original DV charge was dropped). We looked at some options for home defense, decided to sleep on it, and he wants to go back today to pick up a pistol grip Mossberg like the one shown here, impressed as he was by its compactness and maneuverability (and price).

I've always been curious. How the fuck do you properly hold these things?
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>>102986
No! Not until you delete that junked thread!
>> No. 102988 ID: b70387
>>102987
We lost a bunch of images in older threads due to a software fuck-up awhile ago, though it looks like most of those have been pushed off the end of the board already. Stoplossed's ancient M1 Garand improvement thread, >>90456, still shows the effect, but that's no reason to delete the whole thing.
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I went and deleted that whole thread myself. About half of the images were unviewable.
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Anyone tried a shotgun suppressor?
- US Remington 870 MCS AOW shotgun with a Salvo suppressor.
>> No. 103018 ID: 974c52
>>102960
You meant to type the feds shoot your dog, kids, and wife.


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99456 No. 99456 ID: 86d09e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
As you no doubt have heard, Ruger launched the Ruger MkIV a few days ago. It greatly simplified takedown/reassembly and improved the trigger a bit. It comes at a cost though, as accessories like triggers etc are not compatible with older versions.

But listening around, I hear a lot of people that say they like the others better. Why is that? We all know takedown/assembly was a huge pain in the dick, so why would you just disregard that?
It's not even people saying they won't buy a new one because they own an older one. It's people flat out saying that even if they didn't own one that they wouldn't buy it.
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>> No. 102571 ID: 084932
>>102570

A 70's era suppressed MkI would probably mean an AWC Amphibian... at least that's what I'm translating that as.

New ones on MkIII frames are around $1500+, originals would probably be in the same territory as a High Standard HDM if you have to ask...
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A Ruger Mark IV with an integral suppressor from TBA Suppressors.
http://www.tbasuppressors.com/Sicario-Ruger-MK-IV-Silenced-Pistol_p_79.html
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>> No. 102915 ID: a651e7
>>102913
>>102912
>using the mag baseplate as suppressor tool

Smart and handsome, I am quite jelly.


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102852 No. 102852 ID: a659a1 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
I'm wanting to branch out and try some new guns. I primarily use my full size guns for competition (which is not to say that I'm a great shooter, just that's the bulk of my shooting). I'd like to check out a lot of different striker fired options.

Here's my question, for a person who's just exploring the options is it worth it to buy the long slide/competition models? If I fall in love with a gun a keep it, then it would be Buy Once Cry once. But if I don't, then I'll have paid more for a gun I'll probably just end up selling anyways. And for most of the guns (except the Steyr L9-A1) the longslide version is usually $100+/- more expensive.

So for an average guy try exploring the striker fired world without getting divorced, should I skip the longslides or not?
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I'm not a comp shooter, but personally, I find that for marksmanship, the longer the better, pic related is my striker fired long barrel.

Even for CC, it doesn't matter so long as its under, eh 4.5 inches? For 6 oclock, my biggest concern is just not having it be long enough that it interferes with sitting (sitting on the barrel or pistol rises up because barrel is supported by seat). But I digress.

Guns arent terribly expensive and you're probably going to spend about $600 or so maybe for a gun, and it'll maintain its resell value fairly well (especially if you buy used). If you stick to buying used, you may end up actually not paying more than a new standard size, and I don't think it would necessarily hurt to have a small collection of different guns, even if you didn't fall in love with the first one, it might still not suck for trying different sights or just something different every once in a while.

Plus, longslides are sexy. My vote is go for it.
>> No. 102854 ID: 5de6c9
The main advantage a longslide gives you is the longer sight radius. Like most things, how much of an advantage that actually provides you depends largely on...well, you.

A slightly more objective benefit is the increased mass will help reduce recoil slightly and get you back on target that much faster.

Plus there was that vid of the competition dude who could reliably rack his Glock 34 one handed using only the inertia generated on the slide by holding the damn thing normal and yanking straight back towards himself and then pushing it away from himself again. Was supposedly done with a stock pistol.
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>>102854
The 34 slide weighs the same as a Glock 17 because they cut out metal from the top. Pic related.

OP: I am a competition shooter and own all length of 9mm Glocks other than the 17L. The difference between the G17 and G34 is minimal for close shooting. In fact, I was just on the range last week with a timer and I could barely get a detectable difference between them for a simple 7 yard draw and shot 2 on 2 targets. The only difference between the guns is front sight. I think there might be a slight difference at longer distances, but not enough that you will really notice.

If you are trying to pinch pennies, get a G17. If you get a G34, you won't regret it either and should have no problem selling it.

To take this topic to the extreme, I occasionally shoot my G26 in USPSA for the lulz and really have no issues or significant drop in standings with that either. I love that little gun though, the shape of the grip fits perfectly in my hand. So don't worry about fractions of an inch when several inches don't matter.
>> No. 102900 ID: fb893e
I'm a fan of 'longslide' models for the better balance and longer sight radius, but you're unlikely to tell the difference unless you shoot them back to back.

Speaking of comparing them, have you tried the various striker fired pistols on the range? Some pistols are softer shooting than others, so you might find a smaller Glock 19 or H&K VP9 nicer shooting than even a long slide Walther PPQ. That would make a 4.5" barrel G17 or an S&W M&P 2.0 5" much nicer to shoot in comparison.


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