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104036 No. 104036 ID: 815268 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Haters gonna hate
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>> No. 105938 ID: 19518e
>>105937
>Also considering the kind of shotgun I don't anticipate putting as many rounds down range as my more conventional shotguns.
>as many

Looking at how it's a bird's head versus a much more comfortable pistol-type grip I can understand that.
>> No. 105939 ID: 815268
>>105938
I actually prefer the birdshead grip to a standard pistol grip only set up.
>> No. 105940 ID: 19518e
>>105939
I see quite a lot of people sharing your view, but none of them seem to enjoy shooting buckshot, slugs, and more with bird's head.

I don't like bird's head, but I routinely shoot boxes and boxes of slugs, buckshot, turkey magnums using pistol grips. So I can't say I understand the bird's head thing very much... Only the most horrendous 3" 2oz turkey maximum-load ever got a sting in the hands, as much as I can tolerate a box of those, I can't imagine shooting even one with a bird's head grip. The way I see it, pistol grip is pretty much like palm-striking a punching bag, it's incredibly strong at taking impacts.

Might be gripping technique. Might just be hand differences, the shape of a grip from one hand to another probably magnifies the physical differences between people exponentially as recoil energy increases. Might also be a combination of the two. Perhaps further testing is required any excuse to fire ye olde handgonnes. I'll have to track down a bird's head grip though...
>> No. 105942 ID: 815268
>>105940
The birdshead, for me, seems to distribute the recoil throughout my hand, wrist, and forearm, vs a PGO set up where it seems all the recoil is absorbed by the web of my hand and my wrist.

That's just how it feels to me. But yeah, it still leaves you sore to shoot 70 high brass 00 loads in 45 minutes lol.
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>>105942
I was about to write stuff about grip technique but fucking shit ammo up here is stupid expensive, literally nothing under a buck fifty per shell. Who cares about grips when it's the wallet that cries mercy before the hands.

When I track down some shotguns with burbface grips or PGO I'll save up my pennies (all of them) and have a good day making the berms noticeably heavier. It might be a while but I'll probably post the results in this thread.


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105918 No. 105918 ID: 8c968b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Dunno if it's a dumb idea or not yet. But I was thinking about making an AEK style counterweight system for my 74 kit that I haven't gotten around to finishing. Here is some crappy drawings I did while at work. I'm feverishly measuring some parts right now for a real drawing. Don't have much stuff other than mics and calipers to do REAL measurements at home (no rock, no height gage, no gage blocks, etc.) but I'm confident I can kind of wing most of it except for a couple precision bores. But I can measure those later with some better stuff.
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>> No. 105921 ID: 8c968b
>>105919
Sorry. The picture is confusing. The thread is on the front gas tube, and a little collar thing. That way, I can screw the collar down to shorten the length of the tube for removal. The inside of the collar that mates with the block is chamfered and will have a matching chamfer on the block for centering the tube to the block. Thinking about this a second time though, makes me think this may be a flawed plan, since carbon would be let into the threads. And as I know from my zig zag brake, it can build up significantly.

The front will be a lot of machining. I pretty much accept that. I could have started with a raw forging that some US company made (or I guess just buy a made front sight gas block combo and make it work) but my autisms requires the proper muzzle threads and the proper look etc.

Yeah, I'm sure it will take a lot of work tuning. I know the forealz version has a long narrow weight with a rack cut into it, and a rack cut into the bolt carrier/piston and a tiny gear that ensures both recoil the same amount and the same speed. That sounds super hard though. Since it would require a lot of modification to the existing BCG design.
>> No. 105922 ID: 19518e
>>105921
>since carbon would be let into the threads. And as I know from my zig zag brake, it can build up significantly.
I see it now, and I think if you have a vent hole before the threads, it should keep the threads from being exposed to too much high pressure dirty gas.

>tuning
>original AEK
Yep, all that stuff in the AEK in the counter-recoil mass totals, I assume, to an equal mass as the total reciprocating mass in the action. It doesn't look like you'll be able to cram like half a pound in that counter-recoil mass, so you'll have to make it go faster to compensate, but that might make it feel funny.

You could set up a compound spring for the counter-recoil mass, and try to tune spring weights and port size while keeping counter-recoil mass constant, because you're not going to be putting that much weight into the counter recoil in the first place so I'd put in as much as I could and work on the other variables. You could probably straight up grab an old broken endmill shank that's the right size and use that as a counter-recoil mass, tungsten carbide is heavy and wouldn't get all play-dough inside a gun like a mass made entirely out of lead.
>> No. 105923 ID: 241b9d
>>105918
>I was thinking about making an AEK style counterweight system for my 74 kit that I haven't gotten around to finishing.

Is there even any point to this (outside being mechanically interesting of course) if the rifle isn't full auto?
>> No. 105925 ID: 19518e
>>105923
Counter-recoil is a way to reduce the recoil impulse by cancelling out the recoil caused by the reciprocating mass driven by gas. Normally competition shooters (and other kinds too but you know what I'm saying) will do this by simply reducing the mass of the reciprocating components and messing with cycling speed to try and retain reliability. Counter-recoil isn't my personal glass of spiders because it increases the total mass of the firearm, but it is a cool concept.

Obviously it doesn't change the recoil caused by the bullet and gas exiting the barrel, but that should go without saying. It's all about the other extra bumps and tugs when the clockwork is flopping about getting old cans out and new bottles in.
>> No. 105926 ID: 8c968b
>>105923
For me, it's just a machining exercise, and to make a gun have a reason to exist in my collection, since I have an AK74 already (with the triangle folder, unlike this kit, which is a fixed stock one).


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105867 No. 105867 ID: f5c3ed hide watch quickreply [Reply]
https://www.state.gov/t/isn/caatsa/275116.htm

Tula is owned by NPO High Precision Systems, on the list.
Golden Tiger is owned by Tactical Missiles Corporation, on the list.
Yulyanovsk Cartridge Works makes Wolf from Russia, also on the list.


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105862 No. 105862 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
So, lets say I took a .32acp pistol and decided to huff some crack. I also own a reloading bench. Recently I read the wikipedia for the 5.7mm round.

I decide to handload, spend a bunch of time and effort putting a spitzer round with a plastic/aluminum core. My goal is to get the highest velocity possible without the gun exploding in my hands.

Is my pistol likely to feed this abomination and what kind of performance can I expect?
>> No. 105863 ID: 241b9d
.32ACP pistols tend to be simple blowback operated. Overloading little pot metal pistols may cause the runaway slide to kick some of your teeth in as it goes flying off to freedom.


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105840 No. 105840 ID: df12a0 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
DIAMONDBACK DB308G2B
Product Specs:
Model: DB308G2B
Caliber: .308 WIN
Finish: Black Anodized Hardcoat
Barrel: 16” Mid-Length Gas system
Twist Rate: 1:10
Gas System: Mid-Length Gas System
Bolt Carrier Group: Azimuth Black Nitride, AR 10 Carrier w/ Multi-Cal Bolt, DPMS Style Barrel Extension, High Pressure Firing Pin
Lower: Forged 7075 T6 Aluminum
Upper: Forged 7075 T6 Aluminum
Handguard: 15” M-LOK Q.D. Rail
Pistol Grip: A2
Stock: Rogers Super Stock
Mag: 20 Round Aluminum
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>> No. 105849 ID: f2172d
Given their track record with their .380 pocket pistols, I'd pass on anything Diamondback. That being said, we sold their AR pistols like hotcakes cause their price point was so affordable.

Why not a PSA .308 build?
>> No. 105851 ID: aaf1f1
Didn't know Diamondback is no longer owned by Taurus.
http://www.diamondbackforum.com/index.php?topic=3914.0
>> No. 105852 ID: df12a0
>>105849
...because I essentially traded a rifle for a rifle, and this was the closest in value to my used shit, while still the same caliber.


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105789 No. 105789 ID: 13f512 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Starting with this guy.
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>> No. 105817 ID: f5c3ed
Neat! Thanks for sharing.
>> No. 105834 ID: 804cc5
My dude, you should have dropped me a line, beers etc.
>> No. 105837 ID: 6ca38e
I wonder if British armed LEOs still only load 5 rounds into their rifles and subguns. That used to be a thing, at least IIRC.
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>>105837
Years ago, some people were questioning this and some replied that they are looking at transparent HK G36 assault rifle mags (or long steel magazines with windows cut in them to view how many rounds you have). The bottom part of a loaded magazine is filled with the follower and compressed spring, so you don't see the shiny brass cartridges filling the entire length of the magazine, but this is normal.
>> No. 105839 ID: 060ec8
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The British cops that get called in when police officers are being shot at (with proper guns, not balmy Airsoft toys) are the Counter Terrorist Specialist Firearms Officers (CTSFO) or the Trojans, the Metropolitan Police's armed response units.

Here are some CTSFO with some M16 mags that suspiciously look short a few rounds...

Here's an interesting read on policing tactics and philosophies in the UK compared to the US:
I Was A Cop In A Country With No Guns: 6 Startling Truths
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2353-i-was-cop-in-country-with-no-guns-6-startling-truths.html


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105330 No. 105330 ID: e9b3d2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Gun Review: FN M249S Semi-Automatic SAW
FN Manufacturing has been cranking out weapons in Columbia, South Carolina for the U.S. military for years now, winning contracts for everything from the infantry man’s friend, the M4, through the explosively fun M240B. Up until last year the civilian side of the house had been forbidden from offering civvy-legal versions of their military guns — the closest we’d gotten was their FN-15 rifle released in 2014. But last year all that changed and the “Military Collector” series was born. Now the average American can purchase a proper M4 or M16, spec’ed out exactly the same as the military gets them (minus the full-auto setting, no matter what you may hear on MSNBC). The most awesome offering in this collection so far: the Military Collector M249S.
The original M249 was developed in the early 1970’s. The U.S. military had briefly fielded the Stoner 63 light machine gun (LMG) in Vietnam as a way to provide front line troops with a lighter machine gun that was easier to maneuver through the thick brush and jungles of the area, eventually looking to replace the much heavier M60 and M2. While the Stoner design had worked, the military wanted something better. A Belgian company called FN had been in development of their FN MINIMI LMG for a few years by the time the U.S. decided to look for a replacement, and in a head to head competition in 1980 their design beat out both H&K (HK21A1) as well as Colt (who just thickened the barrel on an M16 and called it good) for the contract.
Something to note about the M249S is that it is a bit different than the other offerings in the Military Collector series. Where the Military Collector M4 is identical to the as-issued version, the M249S is instead a mix-and-match version that has been cobbled together from different eras of the M249 to create the most visually appealing and enjoyable example of the firearm possible. The purist inside me is complaining, but the execution doesn’t leave much room for argument. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/foghorn/gun-review-fn-m249s-semi-automatic-saw/
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>> No. 105830 ID: 060ec8
  EvikeTV - The Evike Custom "Optic Thunder" M4 https://youtu.be/An-nMlDeApI
Twenty pounds of accessories boosts this M4gery to a $10,000 Airsoft monstrosity.
>> No. 105831 ID: 060ec8
  Classic Army M132 Micro Gun - [The Gun Corner] - Airsoft Evike.com https://youtu.be/VLSQiTo95xc
https://www.evike.com/products/71996/
$700 for a toy BB minigun
Heavy duty nylon fiber reinforced polymer construction
Incredibly light weight (9lbs)
Can be powered by HPA rig or by directly inserting an entire green gas canister into the weapon
Incredible 38 rounds per second fire rate out of the box (48 round per second upgrade motor coming soon)
Individually adjustable hopups for each barrel; compatible with standard AEG barrels, hopups, and buckings
Spring loaded magazine (2200 round capacity) force feeds into hopper for positive feeding in any orientation of the weapon
Electric motor driven 4 rotating barrels
Joystick style trigger w/ grip safety
It is finally here, the moment we have all been dreaming about and waiting for. Never before done in the history of Airsoft, a fully functional Minigun style heavy weapon for under one thousand dollars.
New from Classic Army, the M132 Micro Gun brings the pain right out of the box; crush the opposing team with an impressive 38 rounds per second (2280 rounds per minute).
Powered by an electric motor for its 4 rotating barrels, and HPA / gas for propulsion, this weapons devastating effectiveness will have you grinning ear to ear as you properly demonstrate the noun "Overkill."
Unlike previous iterations of the Minigun, the M132 is actually viable to be fielded as its smaller size and incredibly light weight (9lbs unloaded) does not encumber its wielder.
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>> No. 105832 ID: 060ec8
  Or you can make a reproduction of the old hand-cranked Gatling Guns. I have seen 1/4 scale models that fire .22 LR and full-sized ones that fire .45/70 Govt.
Reproduction 1877 "Bulldog" Gatling Gun https://youtu.be/ildteJbZ9Jw
Thanks to a friendly collector, we had the chance to take out one of the new, gorgeous reproduction 1877 Gatling guns being sold by Colt. It's a near-exact replica, with the added feature of being able to crank backwards to safely clear any loaded cartridges out of the action. Being a Bulldog model, it has 5 short barrels (18.25") chambered for .45-70, enclosed in a full brass jacket to keep the action clean. Colt claims it will do 800 rounds/minute, but we got it going a bit faster...

Thanks to an interesting quirk of US gun laws, the Gatling is not considered a machine gun - so anyone who can possess a bolt action rifle can own and shoot one of these. The crank handle is considered a trigger, and each partial turn fires a single round. Since a single discrete motion doesn't fire multiple rounds, it's not subject to the registration and transfer tax of a machine gun under the NFA.
>> No. 105833 ID: 060ec8
  M134 Minigun: The Modern Gatling Gun https://youtu.be/rIlwHT4IdRc
The General Electric M134 "Minigun" is essentially an electrically-powered Gatling gun - the conceptual operation of the gun is identical to Dr. Gatling's original creation. What has changed, however, is the chambering (it's in 7.62 NATO), the power source (an electric motor), and the feed mechanism (belt-feed using M60 links instead of the Gatling's Accles, Broadwell, or Bruce feeds). The weapon was a scaled down version of a 20mm rotary powered cannon devised for aircraft armament after WW2, hence the "mini" name. It was used primarily as helicopter armament, although it has found its way only ground vehicles as well. Firing between 3000 and 6000 rounds per minute, the Minigun is ideal for aerial engagements where the gunner only has a brief moment on target and needs to fire as much as possible during that moment.

It is a truly awe-inspiring weapon, and quite an experience to fire! In addition to destroying a truck with it, we will look at disassembly and functioning of the minigun - the delinking mechanism is really the most complex part of the weapon, and a very interesting device.
>> No. 105835 ID: 060ec8
  Slow Motion: M134 Minigun https://youtu.be/XeyVrLK03mc


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105744 No. 105744 ID: 8c18eb hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Bond Arms derringers with custom grips and holsters.
These were listed on Etsy.
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>> No. 105818 ID: 360fc6
Dumb. Stupid. Pointless. I want two.


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105597 No. 105597 ID: 30d556 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
What is the most durable, long lasting gun you have ever known?
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>> No. 105711 ID: 19518e
>>105710
>any handgun
Ehhh...

It's awesome on a single action 'cause you can let the recoil slip the gun up so the hammer's right there for re-cocking. I don't really think that's really super cool for anything that's not a single action revolver, but hey whatever floats your boat.
>> No. 105712 ID: 8c18eb
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105712
>>105708
Some people love 'em, some hate 'em, and others think they're OK. You can put plenty of different grips on the old Peacemaker.
- US Colt SAA Bisley in .38 WCF restored by the Turnbull Manufacturing Company.
>> No. 105713 ID: 8c18eb
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105713
The Bisley model has a sharper angled grip, curving further forward.
>> No. 105714 ID: 8c18eb
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105714
I did not think that birdshead grips would be comfortable, but I like them when I tried them.
- A US Colt 1851 conversion with birdshead grips.
http://www.operatorchan.org/k/res/100826.html#101123
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105716
>>105714
Feels better than a standard grip imho.


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105425 No. 105425 ID: 1989a8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Has any of you used H&K P2000 irl? How do you like it?
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Some 'less-lethal' Russian 10x22T cartridges loaded with rubber balls by Techkrim.
>> No. 105706 ID: 1989a8
>>105701
It is true but they aren't a very good choice for defense, you could use one for intimidation or to hurt a dude in light clothing but a can of pepper spray/CS is probably better both at stopping a threat and being non-lethal.

Traumats have a nasty reputation of being pretty random in terms of their damage. You can shoot someone, he won't give a shit and still beat you up or you'll shoot a guy in some weird spot without any intention, he'll die and then you're fucked.

As for actual weapons, I don't remember it well but from the top of my head you can get them for sporting purposes like bullseye, IPSC, etc but you normally don't care about that because I don't think you get to take those guns home. Maybe they changed it, I'll look into it.

Or you can get a smoothbore license. It will require medical papers from your local prevention center that say you aren't a registered nutter and/or drug addict, papers that say you've had gun lessons, a fortified gun case in your residence, doesn't have to be a proper gun safe but it's better if it is one. Your local beat cop will have to OK the thing before you can buy your gun, iirc. Then you have to submit the gun to the police for them to inspect it, fire and register. Then you can have the bloody thing to go hunt or shoot bottles in your country house backyard.

Play with it for a year then go submit it again to be inspected and fired, you have to do that shit every year. After 5 years of owning a smoothbore you can get a rifle permit, the procedure is similar, iirc.

I've probably forgotten a bunch of steps but the whole thing is an huge ordeal costing you time and money so many people don't bother but then again, many do.
>> No. 105707 ID: 1989a8
>>105706
>Play with it for a year then go submit it again to be inspected and fired, you have to do that shit every year.

Was wrong, it's every 5 years. Also, you need a hunter's license/id but you get it once and forever and for free.
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>>105706
Can you possess pistols (other than rubber bullet pistols) in Russia?

Special restrictions are imposed on the circulation of civilian weapons. Prohibited firearms are those with a cartridge capacity of more than ten bullets, those that can fire in bursts, those with a barrel length of less than 500 millimeters or an entire length under 800 millimeters, and those that can be shortened to a length of under 800 millimeters without losing their shooting capacity. Rifled-bore sporting guns and pneumatic guns with a pumping power of more than 7.5 joules and a caliber of more than 4.5 millimeters must be kept at shooting ranges. https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/russia.php#Acquisition

- Russian Makarych IZH-79-9T 9mm rubber bullet 8-shot, 2004.
>> No. 105715 ID: 1989a8
>>105709
Not realistically. You either have to get a commendation pistol, or get an antique one or a replica of one. It has to be a model produced before 1899 and it can't use a uniform cartridge.

You can also go to a shooting range and give them money for a pistol that will be reserved personally for you at that range, but you can't carry it or keep at home.


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