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No. 103628 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  Not sure if this is genius or stupid, but it's neat.

Also fun to brand people with it, I guess. Good luck getting this into a bag right after shooting it.

One of my biggest gripes with AR15s has always been the lack of folding stocks. But this is obviously going a step further.
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>> No. 104112 ID: 3e843b
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I would think even a Obrez would be more effective at close ranges then a pistol caliber weapon. From what I know most common pistol rounds aren't all that amazing, relatively slow and don't dump alot of power into a target compared to a pistol round.

However pistol rounds are usually alot lighter, don't need to travel super far to get maximum kill velocity, and don't over-penetrate like most rifle rounds do. Hence why PDWs have some love, they have the best of both worlds.

On the Carter Special there seems to be some confusion on why it was made. Its generally agreed that the reason was the wars in A-stan and Iraqistan and OPERATORS introducing their new hadji friends to the greatest thing Belgium has made since Audrey Hepburn.

The disagreements seems to be whether it was because it was so hard to procure blanks, with most 5.7 ammo production presumably going to fulfilling military contracts or because they were having a tough time acquiring P90 "props" as in the firearms. Either way it has the same result, the Carter Special was made to be used either to fire the super common 5.56 round or to be used in firing scenes because they didn't have enough live fire P90s.
>> No. 104113 ID: 44de19
It was probably just a bunch of stuff the armorer for the show already had on hand, I doubt they went out and bought a bunch of new shit to glom together.

Also, while I didn't care for the Ori storyline (what's that Lassie? ANOTHER race pretending to be gods? Better kill all of them too!) and as much as I didn't like the season 9/10 team quite as much as the OG SG1, I was pleased to see things like the MP7 showing up. More than anything, it aided the feeling that they were a present day special operations team making use of the equipment available in the present day.

Plus Teal'c dual wielding MP7s made me smile. Realism be damned.
>> No. 104121 ID: 188832
yeah over penetration worries are why the colt D.O.E. smg conversion came to be , mission drives equipment and all that.

If I were to state pistol rounds in SMG's and SBR's were less than desirable that would color me a hypocrite as an owner of a Brugger & Thomet TP9 ( and wanting quite a few pistol caliber SBR's ) each tool has it's use.
I want to eventually get a PS90 or an AR 57 11" barreled upper whichever comes first , but I have to get my life back on track.

>>104113 And yes dual wielding MP7's while unrealistic / overkill is kinda bad ass in it's own pulpy way, can't say much for the quality of stories in the later seasons as they were "average" but the cinematography and action scenes were good.
>> No. 104125 ID: 3e843b
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Teal'c dual wielding P90s is superior to Teal'c dual wielding MP7s.

Though I did like them using the MP7s. They seemed to mainly use them in missions they were trying to pass as non Tau'ri humans. Which makes sense as the MP7 looks more like a classical weapon compared to the more distinctive P90. The shows portrays other humans like the Lucien Alliance and various planets as having projectile weapons similar if not identical to Earth weapons.

A real problem with using off the shelf props and weapons is sometimes people not from Earth were carrying around things like barely modified MAC-10s and Steyr SPPs (from the episode where SG-1 is carrying around MP7s to not look like Earthers) and not even modified Lugers, Garands, Kar 98Ks, and various AK variants. I mean they atleast try sometimes to portray weapons as alien such as the "Timecop Beretta", the "Timecop Desert Eagle" and the "Bone Jack" Winchester 1887.

One thing I did appreciate though is it seemed like the only person really dual wielding was people not trained by Earth like Teal'c and Bra'tac. The only time I can recall an Earth military person dual wielding was Mitchell using dual MP7s during a dream sequence when he's fighting zombies. Mitchell has a history of dual wielding anyway, mostly pistols named Winona though.

>mission drives equipment

Definitely. Why pistol caliber SMGs and PDWs exist, an assault rifle isn't going to be the right tool for every occasion no matter how powerful it is. Its like the old debates about the usage of PDWs and how people tried to paint them as useless because ballistic gel tests showed they were less powerful compared to assault rifles. When people are using a SMG or PDW they might now want or need the body caviting of a larger assault rifle round.

Its a bit like universal camo pattern in thought. Try to make something a jack of all trades means you have a camo pattern that tends to performs worse then dedicated camo patterns, its universally bad. Now of course an AR ain't anywhere close to universally bad unless you are some idiot who still thinks its the 1960s and there haven't been any changes to the first gen Mattel-16s. But trying to use them as a universal platform, atleast from an ammo standpoint, seems like a bad idea. I suppose you can use it as a universal platform with mixed results, an AR can fire 9mm like a MP5, 5.7 like a P90, .45 like a UMP, and even 7.62x39 like an AK.
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>> No. 104136 ID: bb90ae
>The only time I can recall an Earth military person dual wielding was Mitchell using dual MP7s during a dream sequence when he's fighting zombies

Not so much a dream sequence as Mitchell's idea of a good TV show. From the episode "200" (the 200th episode of the show. As a result they had a lot of fun with it.) Basically it was SG1 brainstorming with Martin Lloyd (alien living on earth) about creating a TV show to help with creating plausible deniability and all that to help keep the Stargate program covered.

I'd have watched the hell out of Teal'C P.I.

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104025 No. 104025 ID: 56190f hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
US M2 Carbine, an assault rifle, submachinegun or PDW?
The .30 Carbine metric dimensions are 7.62x33mm and that looks similar to the Sturmgewehr 44's 8mm Kurz' 7.92x33mm round, but the .30 Carbine has a thin case more akin to a pistol cartridge, not a fat bottlenecked assault rifle case like the 8mmK. The .30 Carbine round is more comparable to the .357 Magnum (9x33mmR) pistol cartridge in performance.
A standard .30 Carbine ball bullet weighs 110 grains (7.1 g); a complete loaded round weighs 195 grains (12.6 g) and has a muzzle velocity of 1,990 ft/s (610 m/s), giving it 967 ft·lbf (1,311 joules) of energy when fired from the M1 Carbine's 18" barrel. A .357 Magnum cartridge fired from an 18" rifle barrel, which can have a muzzle velocity range from about 1,718–2,092 ft/s (524–638 m/s) with energies at 720–1,215 ft·lbf (976–1,647 J) for a 110 gr (7.1 g) bullet at the low end and a 125 gr (8.1 g) bullet on the high end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30_Carbine
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>> No. 104072 ID: 56190f
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But is the attached ammo pouch uncomfortable when aiming?
>> No. 104124 ID: 0876ee
Its not uncomfortable at all. My only complaint is that it seems to move around a little too much for my tastes, but I can see the combat value. Ended up taking the mag pouch off my M1 carbine and putting it on my single shot .22, where it sufficiently holds 2 50 round boxes of .22, or a bunch of loose ammo for high speed reloads. Its a pain in the ass to keep bending over to grab another round of .22 at your feet when standing, and the pouch fixed that problem really well.

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103744 No. 103744 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
So, I recently went to visit the Waterloo Memorial 1815 museum. Thought I'd post some pics.

The Waterloo 1815 museum was recently expanded, and since the entire area surrounding the battlefield is considered a "protected" site, they chose to build the entire museum underground. Which is kinda neat.
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>> No. 103828 ID: 4d69b8
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>> No. 103829 ID: 4d69b8
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$ 6,950.00
An Antique Revolutionary War British 2nd Model Short Land Brown Bess Military Flintlock Musket pattern 1769/1777. 41.75",. 80 cal. barrel with remnants of standard PROOFS struck on the top of breech. Standard pattern brass regulation furniture. Long Land pattern 1756 lock in good mechanical working order. Stock is solid with an old repair around the lock and side plate; some chip loses from the upper edges of fore-end; brass nose cap is missing; worn, scratches and dings from years of service. Visible 'STORES KEEPER' mark on the right side of the comb of stock. The steel ram rod is most likely an American made hand forged replacement. Musket comes with the correct bayonet.

Note; this is one of the primary weapons used in the American Revolutionary War. These muskets are becoming harder and harder to find in any condition ! https://tortugatrading.com/products/american-revolutionary-war-british-2nd-model-short-land-brown-bess-flintlock-musket-pattern-1769-1777
>> No. 103835 ID: 813f6b
>An unrifled Baker??? That defeats the purpose of having a Baker!

I guess people might use it as a wall hanger. ;)
>> No. 103888 ID: 9315da
>>The lion is a dutch one
>> It is facing Paris, reminding it not to try that shit again.

That's cool. Didn't know there was a large museum dedicated to the battle. Just one more thing I'd like to see someday.
>> No. 104021 ID: 9dcda2
Good shit dude.

No. 103656 ID: 1989a8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  For a modest price of 7500$ you too can see the legend come back to life!
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>> No. 103740 ID: bec165

I felt insulted when their hits at 100m seem like some unobtainable achievement. I mean, I guess the RMR on my Roland could be considered cheating, but it really isn't that big of a deal to get hits on steel at 100m, with some practice and understanding of your sight picture at that distance of course.

I was about to close the video when I saw Rob Pincus, I closed it when I saw "hydrostatic shock".

If SVI can make a 100% barstock billet 1911 or 2011 for less money than this with the same accuracy guarantee, wtf are they doing?

Yes, for $7500 you could have a grade 9 titanium 1911 made (with microwelded tool steel rails to eliminate galling) that generally will shoot .5" groups or better with AET rifling.

Or hell, you could start a Korth collection, or two SVIs, or multiple forged in the halls of Mount Doom custom 1911s that I promise you have better attention to detail and craftsmanship than this does.

Btw, Les Baers are rather well priced (bit above some of the better production guns like the Colt Rail Gun, Springfield TRP, Dan Wesson Valor).
>> No. 103741 ID: 19518e
All those guns you mentioned are things that are already proven, all the plans and tooling are already done, to quote the post you linked to
"...riding a hundred year wave of Browning's legacy. 1911s are understood in every way"

All those manufacturers just have to make what is already made and do it with attention to detail and closer fits. It's like doing a cover of a song when everybody and their mothers have the music sheets and the instruments, SVI/les baer/everygucci1911brand just comes in, picks up the guitars and microphone, and plays the same old song.

The accuracy ends up being the same, but FK has to write a new song from scratch, that's the actually complicated and expensive part.

Yes their marketing is annoying as hell and going "wow we're amazing hitting stuff 100 yards nevah been dun befoh muh hydroquantumshox see we can use buzzwords too".
>> No. 103742 ID: 1989a8
Doesn't hydrostatic shock become relevant when the projectile goes above 2000 fps? FK only has 2000 fps at the muzzle though. On the other hand, it dropped an elk without vertebra damage which is very impressive if it wasn't staged.
>> No. 103743 ID: 19518e
I'm no terminal ballistician, but from what I understand "hydrostatic shock" is damage to some types of tissues and/or organs from a large enough temporary cavity caused by a projectile. The size of the temporary cavity is related to the projectile's weight, diameter, speed, upset (tumbling), expansion or fragmentation. This temporary cavity, if large and violent enough, can increase the trauma and physiological shock to the target beyond the permanent cavity. I remember reading theories of nervous system damage from this temporary cavity effect, but I can't say I know if it was speculation or confirmed by legitimate scientific process. I do imagine, all else being equal, a larger temporary cavity would probably hurt more but pain is an extremely unreliable factor in incapacitation of a creature at best.

12 gauge slugs are very large, heavy, made of soft lead, and from what I know, can create very large temporary cavities regardless of the relatively slow velocity (well under 2000ft/s) of the projectile. Conversely, the 223 with a proper bullet can also impart devastating damage beyond what one would expect from a small projectile.

In the case of most handguns, there is neither weight or speed sufficient to do anything but look impressive in a gel test. Gel and high-speed cameras can make basically anything look like the new wonderbullet is like a high explosive autocannon round. From Fackler's reports, yes the general speed required to have enough energy to make temporary cavity matter is around 2000ft/s, but bullet weight and construction (expansion, tumbling, fragmentation) are important factors in this rule of thumb.

Hunters have been taking large game with smaller calibers for a long time, with a bullet that can go deep enough, I would imagine that countless medium-to-large animals have been taken with lever actions in modest chamberings assuming shot placement was good. Hunting is often anecdotal and very case-by-case, the animal's reaction to being shot can never really be predicted with perfect accuracy. Maybe they shot a dozen game before landing on the one elk that just gave up after getting a hole poked in it. There's a video of some guys shooting a small doe with a 50BMG and it taking a football-sized scoop right out the exit side, and the doe still ran for a few seconds. There's plenty of videos of hunters sack-of-potatoes-drop on larger animals with a whole lot less than the 50BMG, like 357 Magnums.

The 7.5 round is basically a 30 carbine round (as if shot from a long barrel) from a pistol barrel. Whatever you can kill with an M1 carbine, you could do with the 7.5 from the pistol.
>> No. 103747 ID: 1989a8
I'm just saying that an aproximately 100 grain bullet goes into the target at supersonic speeds so their claims of effective hydrostatic damage may not be a just marketing meme. No amout of accurate or meme marketing claims justifies that fucking price tho. Would be interesting to see if they make any actual military AP ammo for it and how will it look if they do.

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103708 No. 103708 ID: e9af5c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Does anyone know of a double rifle chambered in 454 casull that accepts 45 colt and .410?
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>> No. 103713 ID: 4d69b8
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7 shot Raging Judge .410 Speed Loader is made from solid billet aluminum looks quite nice.
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6 shot Raging Judge .454 Speed Loader
>> No. 103717 ID: e9af5c

I've seen those, but a double rifle that has usage for big and small game would just be handy. Pedersolli (I think that's how you spell it) has a new production double barrel 45 long colt with chambers long enough for .410, all in a pistol format. A stock with 454 and longer barrel could really suit my needs (wants).
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And here's one by Pedersoli.

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>> No. 103701 ID: 9dcda2
The moment I saw KDG's Kinect system, I knew M-LOK was the winner.

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103605 No. 103605 ID: d5bb74 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Help me operators!

Having ejection issues with a romy G build. Every spent case gets stuck in the dust cover/ action.. Pull the dust cover off and run it and it shoots and cycles fine. About a five o'clock ejection at about 5-7yrds. This has only began within the last two hundred rounds. Had the gun for years and it always ran great.

Included are pictures of the ejector with obvious peening on the face. Im fearing this might be the issue. What does everyone think?
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>> No. 103626 ID: 8c968b
how long have you had this thing? The ejector looks suspiciously beat, like shit has chipped off on the corner. I don't know if it is enough to effect the function but even on my relatively high round count AK's, it doesn't look like that. It is smooth with a shiny spot where the case has been hitting.

That aside, if you have another working AK handy. You should try and compare the position of the ejector's front face to that one. I had a very VERY troublesome AKS74 that always had ejection issues (stovepipes mostly). The ejector was sitting way back compared to the ejector on my other AK. I had to grind off the spot welds and re-weld on a new ejector rail further up (didn't know how to weld/have a welder at the time, other than a spot welder). It works great now.
>> No. 103635 ID: 6a7d74
Owned it nearly two years now.less than 700rounds through it by me.I suspect the damage is from the bolt hitting it and just being a cheaper or bad heat treated rail.
>> No. 103644 ID: 813f6b
>I suspect the damage is from the bolt hitting it

I think you'd feel it in the bolt if that were the case.

>or bad heat treated rail.

That appears to be the most likely suspect in my opinion.
I guess you also mostly shot steel cased? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that might have sped up the wear.
>> No. 103646 ID: 6a7d74
Its definitely the bolt. Can see light wear marks on the bolt from where it makes contact.
>> No. 103666 ID: 05187c
careful welding the extractor, I did and had to file it just right, otherwise my ak wouldnt eject at all.

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103637 No. 103637 ID: 5cefee hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
can someone tell me the capabilities of this free speech unit?
i can tell from the exhaust system that it can protect/prevent free speech (probably depends on what the speaker is saying) in about 2 meters of water.
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>> No. 103643 ID: 813f6b
From the shaped hull, it seems to be primarily designed to increase survivability of the crew in case a mine goes off. When a mine goes off, your primary gas tank might be gone, but it might have a secundary internally to at least limp home.

Either way, a hugely retarded choices for LE. They should have other priorities.
>> No. 103653 ID: ab8f24
>They should have other priorities.

But but ISIS and homegrown right wing turrurrists and and and and...

Gets harder to distinguish between the police and the military every year. Unfortunately, that seems to be the point.
>> No. 103654 ID: d4c8ee
Who cares about mine protection when it's free from the DOD and offers the same ballistic protection as a Bearcat?
>> No. 103655 ID: 74b296
free except you have to pay for the maintence. Oh and the DOD can recall it back if they need it.
>> No. 103665 ID: d4c8ee
>free except you have to pay for the maintence

A relatively minor cost, and there are DHS grants for stuff like that.

>the DOD can recall it back if they need it.

Which has only affected tracked vehicles (M113s) and the agencies returning them get priority for a armored HMMWV or MRAP to replace it.

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103519 No. 103519 ID: b430d1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
what kind of gun is this?
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>> No. 103532 ID: 22c903
holi Shit, its like lookin a six way mirror
>> No. 103624 ID: 031b25
Captain Sweden strikes again!
>> No. 103649 ID: 815268
Deagle Mk I WWI prototype
>> No. 103650 ID: 5c87e8
is that ball ammo or API Anus Piercing Immunodeficiency?
>> No. 103651 ID: 6057a8
Could be APIT Anus Piercing Internal Trauma.

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102932 No. 102932 ID: 7c3c05 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I don't own any snubby revolvers and they're not my favorite class of firearm, but I want to be more gooder at shootan and stuff.

I went to a range yesterday and rented a stainless Airweight and put fifty rounds of .38 through it at seven yards, with results attached. Head shots required me to slow down enough that I would not have been comfortable trying this against an armed and hostile opponent, instead of a motionless paper target. I did get five for five. The alert observer may have noticed that the hole in the middle is a bit elongated.

Impressions: it's hard to see and align stainless sights in a hurry under a lot of lighting conditions, especially when you're fighting a twelve-pound trigger attached to a twelve-ounce firearm that has a sight radius of about three inches.

I expected recoil was much worse, having heard horror stories for years about how lightweight snubbies will bounce the fillings right out of your teeth. Ammo was Fiocchi 125gr truncated-cone FMJ, not designated +P. I have never seen chrono data for this ammo and have no idea how much velocity it had, but the flat pointed bullets made neat round holes in the paper target. Muzzle flash was an enormous white fireball and I could feel the warmth of it on my face and hands--but empties dropped out of the chambers with no effort required other than holding the gun muzzle-up with the cylinder open and shaking it a bit. Primers don't look flattened, nor cratered.

A lot of my shots went low and/or low and left. The diagnostic target suggests I may be jerking the trigger and/or pushing down with my thumb and/or tightening my grip while I drag the trigger back.

I did figure out eventually that the J-frame's lockwork, at least on that particular example, had two soft hitches, or hesitations, that I could feel just before the hammer dropped, and that I could use this to stage the trigger. That helped some.

I am sure someone here knows more about running a snubby revolver than I do. Is there anything I'm missing here, other than needing more practice with this particular class of firearm?
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>> No. 103036 ID: 7c3c05
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>Have you tried the Smith & Wesson Model 640 Pro? A 5-shot .357 Magnum with a 2.13-inch barrel.

I have not. I did last year try a the Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum, a less pretty but lightweight polymer framed snubby.

I have to say that fifty rounds of American Eagle 158gr softnoses were just about as much fun as I really wanted to have. And I don't consider myself especially recoil-sensitive, at least with handguns. Smith 29s and 629s with full-power .44 Mag ammo are, for me, fun (within the limits of my DA shooting), not punishing. But that LCR in .357 was a bit much.
>> No. 103038 ID: 9dcda2
That's the one.

>I want to be more skilled at using all types of firearms

I'm with you here. I understand people who train on one type and that's it. But I like guns too much to do that. I'm decent with damn near anything and good with any proper firearm. With revolvers, just go with a decent quality Smith or Ruger with a 4" or 6" barrel, and actually enjoy shooting it.

> but short-barreled .38 Special revolvers strike me as being 1898's answer to questions about concealable handguns for self-defense. The 20th Century had better answers to those questions, and the 21st Century has better answers still.

Yes. I crack up at stories of people still carrying 38 revolvers in Vietnam.

> using the stance and grip from this old training film

No, just no.
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>> No. 103044 ID: 813f6b
>I can get faster hits and hold the X-ring using the sights. For me, at least, point shooting doesn't seem to work very well.

An interesting test to do, is to put a humansized target at 10 yards, place your feet in the correct shooting position and have the gun at low ready. Now close your eyes and bring the gun up to your natural point of aim and slowly fire off a round or 3 with your eyes still closed.

While not perfectly grouped, they'll be in about the same area and will show you if it's actually your stance that's throwing you off. Or well, you could just be pulling every shot, but that is something that someone watching you should be able to tell you. If there's no obvious reason why you're fucking up the shots, it's likely because you're fighting your natural stance.
>> No. 103638 ID: 7c3c05
I did this at the range today, though I was trying something I'd just purchased which was a bit muzzle heavy--a Ruger Mk III "Hunter" with the 6 7/8" fluted target barrel.

Got 7 of 10 on paper, all low, in a pattern only slightly less wide than the entire paper target, which was another B27.

I will need to do this again with other firearms to see whether it's the long heavy barrel that makes me shoot low or something else, I think.
>> No. 103645 ID: 813f6b

If the Hunter is atypical (in length, front weight and very importantly, the grip angle) it might be normal at first that you're not tracking as you should. That said, I've have expected them all to be on paper. Seems rather inconsistent if you're all over the place.

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