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98440 No. 98440 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Y/N? Suggestions? Around $1000 sounds fine to me. (Willing to go higher if there's something awesome.) I'm not super into long range... but want to get something pretty decent. (Don't think I'm into it enough to do Nightforce or US Optics.)

The shitty thing is, my local range only goes to 200 yards. I hear there's a 1000 yard range in WV, a couple hours away. One of my coworkers has some property up in PA with some range.


Magnification6-24 x
Objective Lens Diameter50 mm
Eye Relief4.0 inches
Field of View17.8-4.2 feet/100 yards
Tube Size30 mm
Turret StyleTactical
Adjustment Graduation.1 mrad
Travel per Rotation5 mrad
Max Elevation Adjustment19 mrad
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>> No. 102241 ID: 0064e9
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After WWII the Army incorporated induction dampening into the M1938 design. Induction dampening is a beautifully simple concept. It takes advantage of the inductive magnetic field generated between a swinging compass needle and a highly conductive but non-magnetic alloy like copper. When a magnetic needle (or bar) is placed inside a cup made of copper and the needle swings (oscillates) that movement causes a slight magnetic eddy current to form. When the needle swings to the left the eddy current pulls it to the right. When it swings to the right the eddy current pulls it to the left. The eddy current is self-canceling; as the needle oscillations decrease the eddy current strength decreases and very quickly the needle settles down and is aligned with magnetic north. Simple, elegant and effective.

However, by the late 1940s the Army decided it was time for a whole new design. The Army took the best functional elements of the M1938 compass – the lensatic sighting design and the combined degree and mil scales on the compass card – added induction dampening, a needle lift device, a much larger sighting lens and a larger thumb loop and placed it all in a beefed-up waterproof aluminum housing. The resulting compass was designated the M1950 Lensatic Compass. It is a rugged, versatile device that has remained in use with the US military for over 60 years, pretty much as originally designed.

- M1950 Lensatic Compass This particular compass was manufactured in February1953 by the Marine Compass Company out of Pembroke, Massachusetts. The cloudy dial cover is the result of the plastic aging. Remember, this compass is almost 60 years old!
>> No. 102242 ID: 0064e9
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Same compass with the cover closed, showing the manufacturer and manufacturing date.
>> No. 102243 ID: 0064e9
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M1950 Lensatic Compass manufactured in 2010 by the Cammenga Corporation out of Michigan. This is a military issue compass that uses tritium inserts for night time illumination.
>> No. 102244 ID: 0064e9
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The same compass with the cover closed. At the time of this writing Cammenga has been the sole supplier of lensatic compasses to the US military for over 10 years.
>> No. 102245 ID: 0064e9
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Sometime in early 1942 a photographer asked General Patton to strike a pose doing something dramatic. I don’t know who’s idea it was to have him pull out his compass and shoot an azimuth to a distant point, but the resulting photo is interesting. Patton is standing beside his early M3 Stuart command tank and decked out in full battle regalia – tanker helmet and goggles, tanker jacket, binoculars, signature pistol at his side and an M1938 compass in his hands.

No. 101933 ID: 9dcda2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  Anyone tried the Leupold VX-6 scopes?


I'm thinking about getting a variable mag scope for my 16" AR for 3-gun. I was looking at the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 and then got on to SuperSetCA's video here. (Fantastic production by the way.)

Any thoughts on this model or similar ones? 1-6 vs 1-4?

I've got pretty good eye sight and have been using Aimpoint H1 reddot thus far with no issues, but the furthest I've shot is inside of 100 yards. I'm just thinking for future use when I go to an event that supports longer range.
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>> No. 102113 ID: 393110
>> No. 102116 ID: 19518e
Looks like I'm not the only one with those concerns.

I do have to admit that the DR, on a purely performance-based evaluation, does seem like a great optic. When I think about using variable magnification optics like 1-4s or 1-6 or 1-8s or even that 1-10x by March Optics, how often would you dial between the minimum and maximum?

I mean sure if you're lazily plinking away you might dial something specific but within the hundred-whatever yards it'll be on 1x, and past that I'm pretty sure 99% of the time, the user will just rip that sucker to max so they can get a bead on quick. The Elcan at that point seems most logical, as it removes pretty much what you'd never use in the first place for a "fighting" optic. Makes me wonder if they make some sort of condom you could stretch over the Elcan to keep shmoo out so it doesn't go all sidewards if you get sand in the moving bits.

Either way I go back to >>102005. You could even streamline it further with a micro (pistol) red-dot and a fixed power scope.

tl;dr I hope to see optics come out in the future that are like an Aimpoint H1 that had sex with a Specter DR or a 1-8x S&B Short dot or something. Something bomb proof, killer battery life, throw-lever from 1x to whatever x.
>> No. 102117 ID: cad48c
I've got a SpecterDR 1.5-6x on my SCAR 17. I'm reasonably pleased with it, but that price is a pain in the balls for sure. My biggest gripe is that, while the thing seems pretty sturdy, for that kind of money I expect ELCAN to have a warranty like Vortex does -- it doesn't matter how it gets fucked up, a replacement gets sent. From what I can tell the warranty is pretty much bog standard.

Practically speaking, with the 1.5x I'm pretty happy to use it as a scan optic, and the 6x works good for precision. I'm pretty pleased with the reticle, and the illumination functions work well, though the full-on crosshair illumination is a little funky in that it doesn't actually illuminate the entire thing like one might expect. Not really a problem though, just odd.

Despite the fact that it's got a dot, picking up up fast will take a lot of practice and muscle memory. I wouldn't feel good snap shooting with one, but it does have basic irons on top and you can always add a red dot. I perched a little Vortex Venom up there, but haven't had a chance to play with it much since. One thing to note about the irons is that they're pretty low, so the front flip-up lens cover pretty damn near obscures it if you go that route. You can thin it out with a Dremel and have it workable, but frankly I expect better on a piece of kit this pricey.

In terms of logic, it looks like you're kinda on the same page I am. Fuck it, it's either lowest or max power, the middle range is almost never used. May as well make the transition fast and easy.

Long story short: It's a good optic, I like it. Is it $2500 good? Ehhhhhh... at that point you really need to play with one, IMO. Personal preference is what's going to decide that. Unfortunately, they can be a pain in the dick to find. Would I buy mine again? In the same circumstances, yeah, I probably would. It was a treat for myself and funded entirely by overtime cash worked explicitly for that purpose. I'd be a hell of a lot happier at a better price point or with a better warranty though.
>> No. 102186 ID: 226e7c
I have the strike eagle 1-6x

Pros: Awesome reticle, red dot feature is good and easy to use, eye relief/picture is better than scopes anywhere near that price range (But not still GREAT, just good), mine came with free caps too which is a plus, and obviously the price is great

Cons: Heavy, the dial to turn magnification is rough/small/slow to turn, eye relief changes as you change magnification is dramatic enough to require you to change your head position (But this is also true of other 1-4 or 1-6 scopes in this range)

IMO it's the best BUDGET 1-6x optic. It leaves a lot of "quality of life" features to be desired, but it knocks all the standards out of the park. I've had experience with a VX2, a burris, and a few other 1-4 or 1-6x scopes and I found this to be the best. Grab it on sale for $230 or so, and you can't go wrong

>Jerry Michulek(sp?) swears by the strike eagle and uses it in competitions, he keeps it dialed up at 6x and uses a vortex red dot at a 45 degree angle for the 1x shots
>> No. 102188 ID: 9dcda2
> Grab it on sale for $230 or so, and you can't go wrong

Interesting. I'd like to see if the next generation of v-mag scopes will come down in price thanks to Vortex.

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101621 No. 101621 ID: f41511 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So what is the general consensus on the 1911-380?

I think it looks interesting.
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>> No. 102145 ID: 9cb715
I always assumed Mexican 1911s would be mostly .38 Super.
>> No. 102150 ID: 52ed6e
They are.
>> No. 102151 ID: 454a4b
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Then why say it's already the standard in Mexico?
.380ACP (or .380 Auto) is not .38 Super
>> No. 102167 ID: 6d019b
Actually yeah, if it's scaled down it'd be kind of neat to mess with and what's the harm in another gun anyway?

I like the standard size 1911, a mini one would be adorable.
>> No. 102176 ID: db281d

Gun Jesus Apocrypha: The Gospel of Browning


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102101 No. 102101 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I've started building my first AR, and have some questions about the Buffer Tube.

I'm looking at an 18in barrel from APOC Armory, and from what I understand one needs different buffers for different barrels. Do different buffers preclude you from using different stocks?

Pic is what I'm looking at building.
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>> No. 102157 ID: 289f86

I need that on a SBR'd AR10 shooting .338BR with a big ol can.

US Vintorez.

That and I have an inexplicable love for thumbhole stocks. I blame Dragunovs
>> No. 102159 ID: 028b36
For some reason Stag Arms got the exclusive for Hera's CQR stock, I guess they make more CA legal rifle?



You can order the stock from them
> $124.99
> Pre-Order Now! 6-8 week expected lead time

I wonder if that thumbhole cover can be removed
>> No. 102160 ID: ad8094
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The regular version just became available on Stag Arms' site and I ordered one, will report back once it show up. It's going on my 18" SPR

>> No. 102161 ID: bf2165
I wonder if they are going to sell the foront grip too.
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According to their FB page, they are putting them up for sale soon

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102134 No. 102134 ID: 454a4b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
A few questions about vented barrels...

If you have a vented barrel, with a vent very close to the end of the barrel, is it not possible that this will adversely affect the stability of the bullet as it leaves the barrel? After all, there's a sudden gap in the rifling and then it starts again? People keep harping on about how the crown area is possibly the most important barrel part accuracy-wise?
Is the area where it restarts given special attention to ensure the rifling engages more gradually when they vent a barrel like that? Or is this a non-issue and I'm overthinking this?

(ignore the silly dual 1911 abortion I'm using as an example)
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>> No. 102152 ID: 5405f9
i really hope that with the release of the p10s that p09 and p07 mags become cheaper. i'd hate for the p10 to become the vp9 2.0 where the "selling point" was that you could use p30 mags with the vp9.

then again, happy merchants gonna happy merchant, i guess.
>> No. 102153 ID: b70387
Why have you been saging all of your posts, recently?
>> No. 102154 ID: 19518e
It's to be polite, but mainly because the post is going on a thread on the front page, so it doesn't really need bumping.
>> No. 102155 ID: b70387
There is a thread on the front page of this board that was most recently bumped twelve days ago. You're breaking my method of reading through until I find the first thread that hasn't been modified since the last time I checked.
>> No. 102156 ID: 19518e
Never really thought about it like that. I just hold down scroll wheel and zoom down the page to look for a new post (it's an at-a-glance thing, the size of the thread on the page changes or something, hard to explain how it "looks" when it's zooming past), I've missed a few things when doing it your way.

Gonna try hard and not sageru. Hard to resist.

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For that guy asking about the CETME rifles, look no further.

You gotta roll your own, but it can be done. You'll need a parts kit, and to buy a receiver and some other things.

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>> No. 102132 ID: 1519ac
Thanks bro.
>> No. 102133 ID: 9dcda2
How do you like it? I watched the whole series when it was first posted. Ian and Karl seemed really proud of building it, but luke warm with the rifle itself.
>> No. 102146 ID: cca113
I mean, it's a roller-delayed 5.56mm. In theory it's not really doing anything different than an HK33/HK93, neither of which were ever massively popular. It's a unique piece with some retro cool factor, yeah, but it's not gonna compare particularly well to say, an AR15.

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102039 No. 102039 ID: 6ef9f1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
New and interesting malfunction from Kel Tec
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>> No. 102060 ID: 6057a8
I assume it was extraction/ejection. It looks like the round went off, extracted, but didn't leave the rifle.

I tried an SU-16 and it cycled like it hated life. Not sure why the case didn't fly out as I would expect, but with a rifle that cycles as violently as the one I tried (assuming mine was a regular example, I don't know, haven't shot other examples), if the case doesn't go a mile out and slips off the extractor early, the bolt coming back and closing on the empty case at just the right angle could crush the case like that.

Just speculating, OP should return and tell us more about it.

General weird malfunction thread until then, I guess?
>> No. 102064 ID: eb2308
I shot my buddies and am buying one myself-sounds like the one you handled was fucked.

The only thing I found remarkable about it was the shitty sights, rifle functioned fine.
>> No. 102069 ID: 19518e
The one I tried did "function". It had no malfunctions or stoppages or anything, but it functioned very enthusiastically.

Like "maximum over-rape" enthusiasm, but it did work.
>> No. 102144 ID: 9cb715
So, did it function like it hated life, or just like it was loving life a little too much?
>> No. 102148 ID: 19518e
It kinda felt like the gun was like "PARTY HARD YEAH" in that "I don't expect to live that long since I'm made of cheap parts, but I'll do my best until I spontaneously disassemble" kinda way.

So I'd expect it to work with no issues in any situation with any ammo until all the guts shit out from any available orifice.

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101950 No. 101950 ID: 028b36 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
After own and built a few AKs and ARs it always come back to KAC’s SR-47 – basically an AR minus bolt hold open on last round and takes AK mags. After learning KAC had no plan on selling it to civilians and only 7 units SR-47 were made. I looked elsewhere.
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Took this shitty photo of Interracial Weapon Platform
>> No. 102097 ID: b70387
Do you have a micrometer? I'm curious about the compromises PSA made in the dimensions of their 7.62x39 bolt. 7.62x39 has a larger case head than 5.56x45, which supposedly is why CMMG went with a larger bolt and bolt carrier group in their Mutant.
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I don't have a Micrometer, only the caliper there are plenty of 7.62x39 shooting AR-15 uppers, I think CMMG went with AR-10 because of the mag well change since they are on AR-10 base why not mod the bolt to work with 7.62x39

Here is someone's picture of the KS-47 bolt next to CMMG Mutant's bolt
>> No. 102099 ID: fa4db0
I'd do it. Fuck the establishment.
>> No. 102100 ID: 6ca38e
The technology of peace.

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99018 No. 99018 ID: 86d09e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Our most common pistol designs shooting full power ammo are by virtue of their specific locking systems not using fixed barrels. This has some obvious drawbacks, from losing some inherent accuracy to being unable to statically mount sights. Fixed barrel designs also tend to have less (comparative) recoil due to the fact the bolt has lower weight than the entire slide which moves on the conventional designs.

However, fixed barrel designs for center fire autos are few & far inbetween.
The most recent one would be the Korth PRS. Costs a pretty penny, but virtue of the name alone, but supposedly low recoiling and accurate.
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>> No. 99121 ID: 455b93
That's was a wild ride, thanks for posting
>> No. 102077 ID: 82ec3d
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You all forgot the problem solver.
>> No. 102082 ID: f2172d
We all did, except when I mentioned Hi-points here. >>99035
>> No. 102083 ID: 52ed6e
I don't see "Glock 40" in that post at all.
>> No. 102084 ID: ad8094
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> talking about Glock 40
> not posting picture of Glock 40

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102070 No. 102070 ID: 1519ac hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
I love the look of the Remington model 81 but I don't want to use an archaic cartridge. I want to convert one to a modern cartridge, possibly 10mm Auto since the 81 is available in .30 remington, the parent cartridge of 10mm. Can anyone tell me if the barrel is one piece with the takedown interface, or if it is threaded/pressed/pinned? Also tell me I'm dumb and don't need more projects I don't have time for.
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>> No. 102073 ID: 19518e
>short answer
Start handloading.

>long answer
I'm sure the Rem 81 is a fairly strong action, but the cartridges were loaded usually under 40k CUP. Few modern rounds are that mild, but I don't think it would blow up the rifle to chamber it in another similar rifle caliber. Since it's a long recoil, I severely doubt 10mm Auto would cycle it; more than that, the action is meant for rifle rounds and getting it to feed pistol ammo would be another headache. The 30 Rem is similar to a 7.62x39 in muzzle energy, but the case is bigger and lower pressure and the bore is 308 instead of 311, yet I would likely start there if you do want to convert it somehow. It'll be pretty damn expensive either way to have a barrel made or the original rechambered or bored out and sleeved or whatever you end up trying. It'll be honestly a shitton more than a press, dies, and brass.

Also, cutting a rifle round barely halfway up the case body and "parent cartridge" is a bit of a adventure time jake-rubber-band-for-miles stretch when you're going for something that can cycle and feed in a rifle...
>> No. 102074 ID: fb893e
The easy answer is to reload. Get one in .35 Remington so you have an excuse to get a Marlin 336 and reload for them both.
>> No. 102078 ID: 54180e
I actually just got myself a marlin in .35 rem for christmas. Going to reload it with my cast 158gr flat noses I use in .38spl/.357mag.
Classy as shit and hard thumping.
Got it after IV8888 did their brush gun video and I saw it used my favorite imr 4320 powder.
>> No. 102080 ID: a4650c
>.30 remington, the parent cartridge of 10mm

And also the parent cartridge for 6.8 SPC, if you wanted an off-the-shelf caliber that'd be actually really handy in a little takedown gun like that.

Afaik the takedown assembly/barrel extension is probably pressed/pinned. Not certain, but if push came to shove a good machinist should be able to salvage that part and assemble it to a new barrel. I've seen K31s rebarelled by reusing the chamber end, anything's possible.
>> No. 102081 ID: fb893e
You. I like you. I don't reload yet, but doing that is a long term goal of mine once I do. I have a soft spot for Marlin 336s, but don't/can't hunt with a rifle in my state, so a .30-30 or .35 Remington is dumb. A .35 Remington loaded to .357 Mag levels would be a great, affordable plinker.

And I could get a Model 8/81 and try to make it run with reduced power loads.

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