http://www.gunbroker.com/item/612421702

you dont have $240?

>>102362
I really don't

Not being snarky here, genuinely want to know.

If you can't afford to buy a $240 rifle, what is the point of being gifted one? Cheap surplus ammo runs about $225 a case plus shipping, and commercial ammo you're looking at .75 and .90 per round, and only going up from there.

So like...if you can't come up with the dosh to buy it, how do you plan on feeding it?

OP is not awaited at valhalla.

>>102364
I'll figure something out

Reminds me of when Russia started flooding the US market with cheap loads of Mosin-Nagants and crates of 7.62x54r ammo in the early '90s. A friend bought a crate of M44 Mosin-Nagant carbines for around $25 per rifle back in 1993 or so and he sent them to many of his shooting friends for Christmas presents. I got one in the mail and the bolt handle had popped through the side of the cardboard mailing box. Quite a stocking-stuffer! Now, Mosins are expensive and the ammo is even more so and difficult to find at the inflated prices.

Some enterprising cabinet-makers and carpenters have turned old Russian WW2 Mosin-Nagant rifle crates into coffee tables.

>>102367
How old are you?

Twenty Mosin-Nagant 1891-30 rifles in a crate.
I remember crates of 20 M44 carbines were being advertised for around $500 ($25/rifle), back in the early '90s.
Sure, these were beat-up, but arming two squads of riflemen (or range pals) for $500 was awesome.

>>102362
>nuggets are now 240 dollars

>>102361
> I am extremely poor and much desire a nugget
Need to focus your priorities to get yourself out of the being extremely poor situation first.

Not sure where you've read/hear OpChan are generous and have given guns away. You have been misinformed, generous? Yes OpChan is very generous when it comes to sending aid/supplies to OPERATORs in dire need.

Giving away guns, no. Serv gave his gun to border patrol, Frost pawn a BPEARv1 which surfaced on Armslist once. Some great deals of firearm sales were made in /trade/ take a look there.

What state are you at so I can take a look there to hunt for good deals for you.

>>102362
I've seen beater nugget in Armslist for like $180ish (this is just an example)
> $225 with 8 clips worth ammo

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6052013/georgia-rifles-for-sale--hex-mosin-nagant---ammo

>>102372
>>102373
BG do you have info on the text/label on the side of nugget crate? I recently clean out part of my garage and plan on work on the nugget crate this summer, I want to give it a new coat of paint and touch up some of the text/labeling on the side. Waifu has a Cricket machine so we can cut out some really nice stencils for redoing the text/label

We tend to give guns to people we know, not some random guy on teh internatz.

>>102367
If you can't figure out how to obtain the rifle, you can't figure out how to feed it.

You might want to work on your poverty situation first. That's kind of the first step to being able to afford things.

>>102384
>> server Moneys Needed!

>>102381
This guy placed an order in on a Cyrillic stencil set from Russia to remark the crate with the original lettering.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=875151

Sweet!

>>102375
"The first iteration of bat was invented by J. Presper Eckert and John Mauchly at the University of Pennsylvania and began construction in 1943 and was not completed until 1946. It occupied about 1,800 square feet and used about 18,000 vacuum tubes, weighing almost 50 tons"

Damn bat good thing you have since slimmed down.

>>102390
"Slimmed down" nothing!
But I don't believe Senseless was directing that question to me.

>>102367
Oh fuck please don't be like this guy... robbing a grocery store with nugget

>>102392
This is the same guy robbing the same store few months BEFORE using the nugget. Not sure it would be consider upgrade or downgrade from pistol to nugget.

Same store twice?

Lazy unimaginative fucker.

>>102379
I cant believe it either.
I was a no guns fag when I was in the army when my first line GAVE me his nugget. I was just talking about guns and he asked if i had one, I said no, then he went to his closet and GAVE me a 91/30 - thats when they were 100$ for 240$ its like why not just get a ruger american or something?

>>102393

>Rob store with nugget
>use ill gotten money to buy handgun
>rob store with handgun

He's gonna come in with some shoddy built AR next time.

>>102507
>years later
>store clerks know him by name
>they have some party decorations around when they think he'll show up
>at this point the robber has a JP AR with an S&B short dot

>>102507
You got it backward man, he rob the place with a pistol first (8/27/2011) then came back with the nugget (1/19/2012), that's why it's odd about it, wasn't sure if going to nugget is an upgrade or downgrade

If prices for nuggets have gone up so much how much would you guys say mine is worth?

Finn M91, Tikka barrel (1940, SA marked...think most are tho), Re-used Russian M91 sight (arshins are crossed out on one side) with the added 200m adjustment, decent bore, one "early style" barrel band and one "late" both with retaining screws, import mark on muzzle end of barrel (C.A.I), "matching" barrel and bolt but the mag is not, original manufacture markings on the reciever are scrubbed but you can still make out the eagle marking (assuming that is what it is)

Looks like it has seen some shit in it's life. Pretty fun to shoot. Plan on using it for deer this coming fall.

Think I paid $250 for it when I first got my C&R almost 10 years ago. Never going to sell it but I am curious what my you guys think it is worth.

Here's my mosin crate. Getting the glass and LED setup and cutting wood added about the price of a mosin to the crate. I still haven't gotten around to painting it yet even after a few years, which I'll need to take better pictures when I do.

With its original lid. Fitting the glass top was actually kind of annoying, because I was an idiot and thought the crate was square and only measured two sides. Turns out Ivan really doesn't give a fuck, and the asymmetry is bad enough that the hinges are 4 inches off from each other.

Sometimes, I'm tempted to buy some wood and build a crate right, but then it wouldn't have that "close enough" Russian je ne sais quoi.

I got in right at the tail end of 91/30s. Always bummed I'm too young for cheap M44/K98 RC/SKS crates. I was tempted to pick up a K31 crate from aim a while ago but for 400, a crate is too rich for my blood.

>>102544
>>102545
That furniture has gone up in price quite a bit the past few years. I too was too young to get a cheap crate - if I was around 5 or 10 years earlier I would have done something similar with a crate of Yugo SKSs.

>>102399
He probably got offended by the clerk the first time around and decided to come back with an artillery piece to show him what for.

Nuggets are shitty for the price. Save 30 bucks a month and get something halfway decent.

I haven't seen nugget crates in a long time...but it looks like SKS crates are a thing now!

https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-for-sale

>>102576
SKS crates were a thing back in Vietnam, too.
SKS Cache - A U.S soldier in Vietnam with a freshly opened crate of captured SKS rifles. Note the spike bayonet, rather than a blade type. These are more than likely Chinese supplied Type-56 models. You can occasionally find Vietnam War captured bring-back SKS rifles, some with the proper capture documents. And they go for a pretty penny, too.

Here's a nightstand made out of an ammo crate.

>>102576
>$400 each, $4000 minimum order

Remember when a nice SKS was like $150 at most?

>>102585
Do I.

>>102585
I do indeed.

Alas, a combination of the dollar being worth less, an ever dwindling supply, and an ever growing demand. Surplus just ain't what it used to be.

>>102593
That's why I don't bother. I was looking at Swiss K31s, but that ship had sailed by the time I was interested.

Yeah, the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31 7.5x55mm straight-pull bolt action rifles got expensive when they got popular, years ago. I had a cheap Austrian Steyr M95 straight-pull 8x50mm rifle, but I gave it away when the ammo got scarce, back in the '80s.
For WW2 bolt-action rifles, the US Springfield 1903 is just too expensive. The Mauser K98k is fine (I used mine hunting deer with the standard iron sights and it worked quite well). The UK Lee-Enfield is a fine choice, but getting a good quality Australian post-war No. 4 Mk II is expensive.

>>102585
These were the days where I was a NEET being drugged by my mom...

I really wish I could have taken advantage of the surplus game.

>>102595
Also, if anybody finds one of these for a good price, I'll suck some major dick to own one.

I want many surplus rifles, but if I could own only one, it'd be a K31.

>>102547

I got my crate free but it's pretty beat up. I store AK mags in it. My brother paid $20 for an excellent one last year.

>>102597

I got one of the recent imports, it's a neat rifle and all but I would probably trade it for a Finnish Nagant if I had the chance.

>>102597
Sign up for Classic Arms' emails. They had some K31s and K11s in last week or the week before for ~$400. They sold out fast, but at least you have a chance at getting one before they're gone again.

>>102586
Any chance of prices going back down with dropping sanctions and a new relationship with Russia thanks to Trump/Putin?

I'd like to lift the Norinco/China ban as well, we might as well allow them to export anything they want, we are going to tariff it anyway. I'd rather Norinco M14's drove the price of Springfields and LMT/JRA/etc M14's down

>>102607
Considering Trump campaigned on protecting domestic manufacturers from specifically Chinese competition, I highly doubt the Norinco ban is going anywhere. Which sucks because their 1911's aren't supposed to be half bad. Stupid Canadians get to keep buying it all...

That said, maybe the sporting purpose requirement can finally die.

>>102624
Norinco would probably flood the market with Type CQ rifles and undercut most domestic "cheap AR" manufacturers.

>>102625
>"cheap AR" manufacturers

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/radical-firearm-16-5-56-m4-1-7-complete-rifle-with-12-fgs-round-rail-detail.html?Itemid=0

I'd buy 10 of these if I could...

>>102627
Didn't Radical Firearm already use cheap Chinese made rail to cut down on costs?

With nugget and AK price climbing and AR price falling this picture is no longer accurate

>>102625
While Kalashnikov Concern launches Glock-esque trademark infringement lawsuits against anybody making a AK clone.

>>102629
Fuck Radical Firearms.

>>102660
Tell us more.

>>102663
>a few years back, hsving trouble with my uzi
>ask around, get told that radical has lots of NFA experience
>take uzi to them
>4 weeks later, then still can't figure out what is wrong
>charge me regardless
>figure out what is wrong on my own (front trunion welds broke)

>>102597
Classic has K31s, K11s, and G11s in stock, along with accessories and ammo. The website is down right now, so here's a screenshot.

>>102704
Gaaahhhh their site doesn't work. It's up and available, but the checkboxes should be radio buttons and the validation fucks up. I tried to fix it but fuck, going through someone else's code is like trying to read a Chinese phonebook.

>>102718
The site started working.

> Excellent cond
> Add to cart
> Sorry this item is out of stock
> fuck
> VG cond
> Add to card
> start checking out
> Sorry this item is out of stock
> Fuck!
> std cond
> add to cart
> complete order

Damnit. I really wanted a excellent condition gun. Oh well I'll get one next time, and then should have no trouble selling the standard I just bought.

>>102719
And they're sold out.

>>102720
What about a K11 or G11? I had a K11 (IIRC, Tactikool wound up with it) and I liked it better than either K31 I had, except for the 300m minimum iron sights. One of them would still be a good buy if they're available.

>>102735
>I had a K11 (IIRC, Tactikool wound up with it)
And I still have it, thank you!

G11s (or 96/11s, theyre basically the same thing) are the best discount swiss rifle imo. Their bolts are smoother and the recoil a lot slower than K31s, and generally are very pleasant to shoot, as well as the long fucking sight picture to boot. You have to be okay with a 30" barrel'd rifle though, which I think are sexy as fuck, but such opinions are unpopular.

The rule with milsurp is basically, you get one chance to buy it for cheap, and in some cases that window can be just a few hours long, or in the most extreme case with the AIM manhurins a while back, only a few minutes iirc. (Someone on here got in on them, Jedi, was that you?). Other than that, it'll cost a noticeable amount more but the flip side is you can inspect (or at least see pictures on gb) so you have a much better idea of what you're getting. I personally don't mind paying the extra to make sure I get something in good condition, but I guess that's not true for everyone, and some things can be really hard to get after market, like the Jordanian S&Ws that came on for really cheap but never were seen again (Still huge THANK YOU to RaceMixer for selling me his, I still havent seen one pop up on gb)

  K31, K11, G11 Schmidt-Rubin compared, best swiss rifles https://youtu.be/D-fxJMS8X7M

  Swiss 1911 Carbine
hickok45 https://youtu.be/sj3a62x-DFA
Showing and shooting a vintage 1927 Swiss 1911 Carbine (7.5X55 Swiss) I can't pretend to be an expert on Swiss rifles, but these straight-pull Schmidt-Rubin rifles are very interesting bolt guns.

  K31 Swiss Rifle https://youtu.be/vme90gayUzc

>>102361
This is your fault Stickshift.

It turns out Swiss "good" condition is pretty nice. I'm very satisfied. Still might try for an excellent gun later.

Yep I got one of the cheap MR73s, and just barely. Those sold out in an hour.

>>102834
I'm glad you still have it and enjoy it. That was a pretty rifle, even if it probably was sanded and refinished.

>>102851
That's right, I still had both of them the time you visited it. You're welcome. Swiss rifle disease is a benevolent one, except to the wallet.

If you haven't already, you guys should stock up on GP11 surplus while its available and cheap. It was gone for a while, but now its all over for $0.60/round.

>>102857
Hmm, shot it today from the bench and was getting like 2.5 inches at 50 yards. High and right. My buddy shot it and was level and right. The front sight is already all the way forward (to correct left) and would not move when hammered. The barrel and crown look good. I'm wondering if it's the stock pushing on the barrel... I'll mess with it more tomorrow.

>>102858

Ammo can also have a significant impact. Are you shooting GP11, PPU or reloads?

>>102860

GP11, 1984 mfg.

The sight is already adjusted forward (right). I need to go more right.

The crown seems ok.

The stock doesn't look too bent, but it definitely contacts in the front. I have a hard time believing that thin piece of wood could push that thick barrel enough to affect accuracy.

I'm going to go to the range again tomorrow to help my buddy sight in his new Vortex 1-6, so I'll shoot again and see what happens.

I experimented with K31's a few years back.

You can actually make the barrel completely free floating with minimal effort.

>>102869
Coupled with pillar bedding and some trigger work I was able to get some truly fantastic groups.

>>102870
With Diopter sights.

It was mostly luck.

>>102869
I meant to do that with my K31s, but sold them first. They were more accurate than I was with irons, so it probably didn't matter.

>>102858
Did you try it again? I'm curious if was a problem with the weather or the gun itself. I also can't hurt to check the action screws and even barrel bands. I can't imagine that would have an effect from shooter to shooter, but if things are loose you might get odd results from shot to shot. My CZ 527FS had that issue when I first got it - the rear sight was tight in the barrel channel, and once the barrel heated up, warped slightly, and tensioned against the stock the gun patterned. Some filing/sanding in the barrel channel pretty much fixed it.

>>102894
Nope, didn't shoot again. My buddy probably had some honey-do's to take care of. I might have just been fucking up that day.

https://www.centerfiresystems.com/c-137-firearms.aspx#Pg1|

>>103020

That just links to the main site, did they have a nugget deal?