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103143 No. 103143 ID: d5701c
It's a slow go of it, but here is my progress thus far. The fletcher I am working under has never used bamboo, so it is a learning experience for both of us. It splits like a motherfucker.
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>> No. 103144 ID: d5701c
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>> No. 103146 ID: d5701c
  Sorry for the shit camera
>> No. 103147 ID: c94531
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I have heard conflicting things about bamboo arrows. Some say they are fine, but others say they are problematic. The complaints being the wood is inconsistent, difficult to straighten, flies inaccurately, and will splinter if shot from a heavy bow. If you want to shoot more consistently, all your arrows should have the same weight and size.

>> No. 103148 ID: c94531
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A number of years ago there was very little choice in shaft materials for constructing wood arrows, Port Orford Cedar (POC) was king. It was a good choice for consistent, straight arrows and, of course, the best part of the arrow was the aroma. You didn't seem to mind as much when you broke one because you got the added benefit of enjoying the aromatic cedar.

These days, Port Orford is still around, but in addition there are numerous other woods that are successfully being used to construct good quality arrow shafting. The old saying that necessity is the mother of invention applies here.

In the last 5 years there has been a marked decrease in the availability of quality Port Orford cedar shafts. Some may argue that that has not been the case, but even the perception of a shortage has sent inventive people out looking at different shaft options. Just look at any traditional archery magazine, ads for folks selling alternatives to POC are everywhere. Just a few are Ash, Chundoo (Sitka Spruce), Norway pine, Ramin, Birch, Maple, Yellow Cedar and the list continues. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages as we shall see. http://www3.sympatico.ca/ragiwarmbear/diy/arrows/wood.html
>> No. 103149 ID: c94531
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Years ago, I had a cheap target arrow splinter when I released it from a 90-pound bow I was shooting. The arrow made a loud pop sound (like a firecracker) and it fragmented into toothpick-sized splinters. I was amazed that my left arm protector did not catch any fragments. That's when I learned that heavy bows need strong arrows. Some archers talk of this wood or that, but to be on the safe side, aluminum or carbon fiber are probably the best materials.
>> No. 103150 ID: d5701c
Well, if I wanted to go ultra traditional, I would have to go birch. But I have been warned against using birch in my bow as it may snap during release. But considering that was the traditional wood was birch (or this one hardwood magnolia imported from the South), and my primary bow is only 40# at maximum draw for me, I find this information to be highly suspect.

Boreal forests are not known for hardwoods, but I am always looking for them, as trolling through the internet looking for flora information on the areas. Finding any resources on the subject is surprisingly difficult; and I may have to bug my brother to help me search for Russian sources.

As for bamboo, my experience with shooting them the few times I have is that they're excellent arrows IF BUILT RIGHT. They're very impact resistant, and flew much straighter than my carbon arrows, which seemed to fishtail everywhere (they always land into my target at an odd angle, namely like ¯\¯). It's a learning experience though. I discovered that to taper them, it's easier to use a belt sander... we shall see how it turns out, though, next Monday. Kinda nervous to fire them.
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I've seen bamboo survive things that caused delaminations on carbon fibre arrows such as these.
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No idea what happened. I know how it missed: I use the feathers as anchor point reference and I was bare shaft tuning so I shifted it until I got contact and instinctively released... it had knocked the arrow off into free floating territory. But what it hit exactly, I do not know.

It sounded like breaking glass, and I was convinced I shot out my window for a second.
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Ugliest photo ever. I love how I look chubby from the front, but my back looks ripped as fuck when I do this.
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Back side completely different.

Remember: to be good at drawing bows, all your strength comes from your shoulders, back, and sides.
>> No. 103173 ID: 883c65
nice, i need to get into shooting bow again. used to shoot youth competition.
>> No. 103190 ID: 5deee8
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Did you make your own arrow heads? They look like end caps or something but i'm wondering if you're going for the whole "made from scratch" bit.

I don't know shit about archery obviously.
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Those are end caps due to the target range rules. The SCA only allows target points on their targets, no broad head, from what I remember.

Yeah, yeah, SCA, they're basically the only traditional archery resource group wise. There are only 4 groups in archery around here it seems:

Compound Douchebros. You know the type. Lifted pickup truck, buck decals all over. Probably a Gadsden flag somewhere. Has a bow that probably came out of Crysis.

Olympic IFA shooter. Huge performance anxiety around those guys.

SCA traditional archers. Secretly a 3d Turkey shoot.

That old guy in the pro shop who does all the tuning and fletchery. Probably owns a bunch of bows made by Fred Bear.

I'll probably try my hand at making arrow heads later: I intend to make and test rawhide lamellar armor against a gambeson of sorts.

If I flit nap some arrowheads with my dad, I'll let you guys know. They're a bitch, though, and require a lot of footing of shafts.


Yeah, same. I get distracted and don't practice for months at a time and then have to start all over again, especially during the winter.
>> No. 103192 ID: c3b8cf
Not really on topic, but I booked an intro private archery lesson for a friend's birthday present today.

He's fron northern england, so I think he's dreamed about being a longbowman, lol.
>> No. 103193 ID: c94531
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If he was Welsh, it would be a done deal.
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But playing fetch-the-arrow with a dachshund and a longbow?
Personally, I would not do that.
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Makes me want to arrow some russian gangsters
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That is super cool. I like the little blue designs you put in them. Kind of reminds me of the scene in Jeremiah Johnson where an arrow with paint bands hits a tree in front of Bear Claw and Jeremiah when they're hustling after detecting what they suspect are Crow tracking them when Bear Claw takes one look at the arrow and just goes "Yep, Crow".

I've actually been researching around to finally get some arrows through work for my recurve for next archery hunting season (September). I was pretty set on traditional cedar arrows, but I've decided to treat it like I load my ammo and go with function over form since I'd like to do as much recreation shooting as time allows, but will primarily be tuning this for elk and deer backpacking trips.

I ended up settling on the Easton "Traditional" axis arrows which are 5mm carbon fiber, but have a wood wrap on them that is much like the Easton Cedar arrows from way back in the day. When not practicing at work/in the field I was going to use some mean looking "Grizzly" broadheads with a single bevel. Been glancing at some stuff by a "Dr. Ashby". Seems like he's a bit of a P.O. Ackley for archery. Pretty interesting stuff regarding terminal effects in relation to arrows and broad heads if anyone gets the chance.
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I actually had the opposite experience with carbon. For whatever reason, my carbon arrows suck compared to traditional arrows. Possibly from poor tuning, but they seem to fly far more erratically.

My carbons have a stuffer spine than the traditional arrows I have used, yet they act like they are under spined! I don't get it!

Also, I take it back, fletching tape is so much faster than glue.
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>> No. 103265 ID: 3f7131
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Pretty cool stuff. Ever see Shawn Woods' primitive archery videos? Knapping my own glass arrows heads is on my to do list.

Pic related: my 3D printed fletching jig
>> No. 103266 ID: 3f7131
  Derp. Forgot the link:
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I actually should 3d print my own fletching jig. I own a 3d printer. It would make my life a lot easier to not have to rely upon the range owner's equipment to make my own arrows, which I will need to do by myself eventually.

Also, range report. Today was my first day shooting these bamboo arrows and comparing them against my shoot from yesterday with my carbon arrows.

My carbon arrows weren't able to hold a group at 10m, and I rarely actually hit the target at all.

My bamboo arrows held a group at 20m on a standard 18m traditional archery 40cm ring target. Zero misses.

It's really bizarre. Everything on paper says that my carbon arrows should be better. Everything. Spine charts say my bamboo arrows are too lightly spined. They flex unevenly depending on how you flex them! Yet, they fly straight in flight, and my carbon arrows wobble about as if they are *under spined*.

I don't get it.

I'll get ready for bed and watch that video!
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If you get a hang for knapping please share it. I never could get something passable out of glass.

Here's the STL's of the jig, by the way. I just used some nails for the hinges and that's fine since they aren't a terribly important part.
>> No. 106676 ID: adaa24
  Long live the archery thread, I guess.
>> No. 107045 ID: 54751f
I'm a complete retard, what should I read or watch to start learning about making my own arrows? I am spending too much money on store bought arrows.
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