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104871 No. 104871 ID: ce9989
Some Mosin-Nagant stuff.
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>> No. 104872 ID: ce9989
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1915 Westinghouse Model 1891 Three Liner. Made Under Contract for the Imperial Russian Armies for Czar Nicholas II.
Some History of the Rifle : By the second year of the war the small arms deficit had became critical. Russia sustained frequent defeats at the front, and at one point was suffering a loss of rifles at the appalling rate of 240,000 per month. Despite the purchases of some 2,461,000 rifles from foreign sources during the war ---among them Arisakas from Japan and Great Britain, and Model 95 Winchesters from the U. S.--- and the capture of 700,000 rifles from their enemies, the Russians never acquired a sufficient quantity of firearms for their troops.
In 1915 the Tsar’s government ordered 1,500,000 M1891 infantry rifles and bayonets and 100,000,000 rounds of 7.62x54 mm ammunition from the American firm Remington-UMC, and an additional 1,800,000 of the rifles and bayonets from another American company, New England Westinghouse. http://spaxspore.deviantart.com/art/1915-Westinghouse-Model-1891-Mosin-Nagant-470870669
>> No. 104873 ID: ce9989
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American-made Mosin-Nagants are easily recognized by the makers’ names prominently stamped above the chamber. There are two varieties of the Westinghouse logo. The character next to “1915” on Westinghouse rifles which looks almost like a lower-case “r” is the Russian abbreviation for “year”; it is commonly used in writing dates in Russian. All Westinghouse M1891s are dated 1915, although they were made from 1915 until and including 1918; Remington rifles show the actual year of manufacture. The mark used by Westinghouse on its M1891 parts looks like a capital H with an extended center bar in the form of an arrow pointing right; Remington-made parts are marked with an R-in-a-circle.

Both Westinghouse and Remington made their M1891 furniture from American black walnut. Westinghouse stocks are identifiable by a cartouche on the left side of the butt, consisting of a circle about 7/8” in diameter containing the Russian words (pronounced “Ahn-GLEE-skee zah-KAHZ”), meaning “English Contract”. The inscription is in old-fashioned Russian; the words look somewhat different in the modern language because of orthographic changes made by the Bolsheviks in October 1918.
>> No. 104874 ID: ce9989
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The meaning of this “English Contract” inscription has been the source of much misinformation: it was not placed there “to fool the Germans about where the rifles came from”, as I once heard a dealer at a gun show say; nor does it mean that the rifles were transshipped via England. The machinery at the Westinghouse factory in Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts on which the rifles were made was owned by the British government, which also acted as surety for payment for the first million rifles; that is why the rifles are marked “English Contract”.

During 1915-1917 Remington produced 840,310 M1891 rifles, of which 131,400 had arrived in Russia by January 1917. In the same period Westinghouse made 770,000 rifles; 225,260 were delivered to Russia by January 1917.

As early as February 1916 Westinghouse tried to persuade the U. S. government to buy M1891s of its own. Although the War Dept. expressed some slight interest at the time the matter did not proceed further until after dramatic events occurred a year later.
>> No. 104875 ID: ce9989
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In February 1917 revolution erupted in Russia and the monarchy was overthrown. This was not the Bolshevik Revolution; that took place later in the year, in November (October in the old-style Julian calendar Russia used at the time, hence “Red October”.) Late in 1917 the Russian government defaulted on its contracts with Remington and Westinghouse. The Russians refused to pay for the guns, claiming the rifles were of poor quality, but this was untrue: the American rifles were actually better-made than the Russian ones. The real reasons for default were simply the Russians’ shortage of ready cash and their unwillingness to pay.

The U. S. companies had incurred substantial expenses in tooling-up for and making the Russian rifles, and the default meant financial disaster. In January 1918, to rescue the American firms, the U. S. government agreed to buy the rifles in Westinghouse’s inventory as of January 4th, plus another 200,000. The government also contracted to buy the 78,950 still unpaid-for M1891s then in Remington’s warehouses and an additional 600,000 rifles. Even so, Remington lost a considerable sum on the deal and had to wait several years for the American government to pay its bill.

Deliveries to Russia slowed to a trickle, and soon ceased altogether. The U. S. kept 208,050 of the rifles it bought, some of which were issued to National Guard units, state militia, and similar entities; others were used by the Army, mostly for training purposes. In July 1918, the U. S. Army Ordnance Corps’ Engineering Division officially designated America’s new weapons the “Russian Three-line Rifle, Caliber 7.62 mm. (.3 inch)”, and had them marked with its “flaming bomb” insignia, an American eagle, and otherwise. Some collectors refer to the American Mosin-Nagants as the “Model 1916”, although that term was not used by either the Russians or the Americans. In its records the U.S. Army almost always referred to the guns simply as “Russian rifles”.
>> No. 104876 ID: ce9989
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A few U. S. Mosin-Nagants were altered to take the Pedersen Device, a semi-automatic conversion system with which Remington was experimenting towards the end of World War I for use on the ‘03 Springfield. A basic blow-back system with a unique bolt, this apparatus was designed to fire a strange little .30 caliber round similar to French 7.65 mm long pistol ammo. The government destroyed the devices and special ammo in 1931, although 20 devices were preserved for posterity; the Springfields were resupplied with standard bolts and simply placed back into military service. The altered rifles ---Mosins and Springfields--- can be identified by an oblong slot cut into the left side of the receiver, which served as an ejector port. A surviving example of these M1891s would be the Holy Grail of Mosin-Nagant collecting. (At least one is alleged to have existed as late as the mid-1950s, but I have not confirmed this as a fact.)

U. S. Army documents from the time make it clear that the military thoroughly disliked the “Russian rifles”, and a large number of those still on the Army’s books were in serious disrepair through neglect and abuse as early as the beginning of 1919.
>> No. 104877 ID: ce9989
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After the war ended in November 1918, the U. S. government gave 77,000 of its M1891 rifles to the government of the new country of Czechoslovakia. In December these guns went directly from Remington’s Bridgeport, CT facility to Vancouver, Canada; thence to Vladivostok, in Siberia. Contrary to “gun show wisdom” this was not a clandestine operation. Although some of the rifles were used, as intended, to arm the Czech Legion (ex-POWs then fighting the Bolsheviks in eastern Russia), many of them were never issued but remained in storage at Vladivostok, where some were destroyed by accident and sabotage, some rusted away, and some were stolen. The rest just vanished, almost certainly sold illegally in China by the Japanese--- another interesting story.

Other U. S. Mosin-Nagants also made their way to Russia in 1918 via the Arctic port of Archangel, where they were carried by some of the American troops sent to intervene in the civil war then raging between communist and non-communist Russians. This use of the unpopular guns was based on the theory that it would be cheaper to use locally-available ammunition rather than to add to the expedition’s expense and baggage by shipping cartridges halfway around the world for use in standard-issue Springfield M1903 rifles. Most of these American Mosin-Nagants were abandoned in Russia when the last U. S. troops left in 1920.
>> No. 104878 ID: ce9989
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The U. S. government sold its remaining M1891s as surplus during the 1920s, many to individual Americans for the princely sum of $3.00 apiece; they had cost the taxpayers $30.00 each when the government bought them from Remington and Westinghouse. These rifles were popular as cheap shooters for years, and some were made into hunting- and sporting rifles in the 1920s and ‘30s. One of the commercial sales was to Bannerman’s, the great New York City military surplus house, which had the guns converted to fire the common .30-06 round; the rifles have the new caliber stamped on their actions. These guns can still be found but should NOT be fired: the conversions were not done to modern safety standards and these rifles are considered dangerous to shoot. Though interesting as collector’s items, they should be deactivated by removing the firing pin, or clipping the end off the firing pin, or by any other means to ensure that they cannot be fired by accident or design.

The total number of Mosin-Nagants made by the two American companies is debatable. Although the Russians contracted for 3.3 million of them it seems likely that only about 2.5 million M1891s were actually produced here. Some never left this country, but many more have come ”home” as imports over the past four decades bearing, like campaign medals, the markings of the impressive number of countries in which they served.
Source: http://www.mosinnagant.net/ussr/US-Mosin-Nagants.asp
Pic: A Mosin-Nagant M1891 made in 1915 at the Sestroryetsk arsenal.
http://spaxspore.deviantart.com/art/Do-Strips-Make-a-Tiger-470868843
http://spaxspore.deviantart.com/gallery/46542452/Miltary-Surplus-Firearms
>> No. 104879 ID: ce9989
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After trials of several different repeating bolt action designs Russia adopted a new standard infantry rifle in 1891. It fires the 7.62x54r cartridge and is a combination of designs by Russian Sergei Mosin and Belgian Leon Nagant whose primary contribution was the magazine and feed system. The official Russian designation is “Three Line Rifle, Model of the Year 1891” but is more commonly known in the US as the Mosin Nagant M91. A “line” is a unit of measure equal to 1/10th of an inch. Production of the M91 took place at the Russian arsenals at Izhevsk, Tula, and Sestroryetsk. Due to a slow start in domestic production a contract was issued to the French arms company Chatellerault who built around 500,000 M91s. During WWI contracts were issued to the American firms of New England Westinghouse and Remington for 1.8 and 1.5 million rifles respectively. M91s were widely used in WWI and can be found with markings from many different European countries that purchased or captured them.

1915 Sestroryetsk one of the forgotten imperial arsenals. It made model 1891 mosin nagants from the year 1892 to 1918. This one was built in 1915, and was required by one of the Balkan States following world war I.
>> No. 104880 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104881 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104882 ID: ce9989
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Not many complex pieces of technology can still operate just fine after more than a hundred years of use.
>> No. 104883 ID: ce9989
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This Rifle is a 1916 PTG (Peter the great) model 1891 three line Battle Rifle of the Imperial Russian Forces. The Reason it is known as a Peter the Great m91 was due to the embellished Czar Crest on the Rifle; used to celebrate the 200 year anniversary of the forming of the factory at Tula - by Peter the Great of Russia. This is a rifle imperial 1916 tula production.

In the case of this particular rifle; it saw service in World War 1. Was then captured by the Austrians, stamped with capture markings AZF. Following the War; this rifle was sold to one of the Balkan States; where the receiver's czar crest was scrubbed from the barrel and receiver. The Date is still intact as is the capture marks.
>> No. 104884 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104885 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104886 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104887 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104904 ID: bd9939
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Man, I miss mosins so much. It's the last reminder of my slavshit days that I'll never kick. We used to get shipments in at work and I was kind of a dick and picked out rarer examples to keep in the back for "kids" and normal people. Ex snipers, East German marked, MO rifles or even just correct wartime stocks I tried to save for poorfags or curious people interested in a cheap first time or historicalish rifle since our subhuman hillbilly bubba factor is through the roof and they all had grand plans of makin a super sniper gun out of a pretty mediocre rifle.

For a while very few people cared about them, then suddenly word got around with the Crimea thing that they were going to largely stop coming and people went ape. Now you can't find a mosin locally, and if you do it's like $300.

I've since sold the bottom one in my picture since it was period correct, but not the original stock. But these are mine.

Top was a 1944 Izhvesk PU sniper sent to Poland as war aid and later to Albania where they removed the scopes for whatever reason but left the original mounts and bent bolts. I added a 1943 KOMZ PU scope and mount to restore it.

Middle is a 1943 Izhvesk ex PU sniper, but has the original spliced/repaired stock. I had plans of restoring it some day, but I'll probably just keep it as is.

Bottom was a 1939 Tula PEM side mount ex sniper. I really regret that the stock wasn't original on that rifle as it shot freakishly well and PEM side mounts look awesome.
>> No. 104905 ID: bd9939
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My 1943 Finnish SkY M39 built on an 1897 Izhvesk receiver.

Oddly enough found this locally. Apparently the OTHER mosin guy in this state was sick and needed some cash so let a bunch of Finns go at a small shop. There were some neat captures in there, but he obviously knew what they were and there were no super deals, just reasonable pricing that I really couldn't afford at the time.

The antique receiver was a total surprise and bonus when I got home.
>> No. 104906 ID: bd9939
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A150 grain speer soft point handload hit this small buck just right in that it literally knocked him over on the last week of the season several years ago.

Felt like Vasili Zaitsev creeping from tree to tree down the mountain to get close enough for a shot as he walked. He knew something wasn't right but didn't quite figure it out. These optics were pretty hard to use by modern standards, but they do work.
>> No. 104907 ID: ce9989
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A 1942 Tula PU
Some brief history. 1942 was the first year for PU sniper production. This example was made at relocated Tula Arsenal sometime in 1942. Only 2000 or so 1942 Tulas were produced that year.. the entire year. This is one of them.. one of only a few hundred in the country (United States). http://spaxspore.deviantart.com/art/One-of-the-Few-Left-1942-Tula-PU-470178414
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>> No. 104910 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104911 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104912 ID: ce9989
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Another one, this one is in a near untouched War Time Stock (used commonly 1941-43). Authentic rearsenaled in the 1950s/60s by the Russians.
>> No. 104913 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104916 ID: ce9989
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A Spanish Civil War issued Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 rifle.
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>> No. 104918 ID: ce9989
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>> No. 104919 ID: 19518e
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My Polish M44 made in 1953.
>> No. 104920 ID: 19518e
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As far as I know it was made in Poland, put in a box, stayed in a box for 60 years, and then I bought it. From what I can tell, it hasn't been refurbished or used in any way aside from my gentle white-gloved TLC.

I should have bought the other one right next to it, at the time they were wrapped so I didn't get that good of a look at them and thought 350 bucks for was about as much as I'd pay for a nugget. It was gone the day after, I'm still kicking myself over it.
>> No. 104921 ID: 19518e
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Been meaning to drift the sights over because it does shoot well enough.

I don't often want to take it out for fear of scratching it or something... I know it's "just an M44" but it's in such good shape I can't help but baby it.
>> No. 104922 ID: ce9989
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>>104919
I have seen those cherry factory fresh Polish M44 carbines made in the '50s and immediately crated away as they were obsolete the day they were made. 50+ years later, these blonde stock Mosin-Nagants were in big demand by collectors.

The nation of Poland began manufacturing their clone of the Soviet Model 1944 Carbine ( M44 ) in 1950, and according to Terence Lapin, author of The Mosin Nagant Rifle, production of this carbine ran until at least 1962. http://www.mosinnagant.net/global%20mosin%20nagants/Polish-M44.asp
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