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105214 No. 105214 ID: f9e9ec
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The Bergmann–Bayard was a German designed semi-automatic pistol produced under license in Belgium.

The Bergmann–Bayard Model 1903 was adopted by the Spanish army in 1905 as the Pistola Bergmann de 9 mm. modelo 1903. Unable to find a German manufacturer to complete the Spanish order for 3000 pistols, Theodor Bergmann turned to a Belgian manufacturer, Anciens Etablissements Pieper (who used the trademark "Bayard") and who completed the order.[1] The modified pistol was known as the Bergmann Bayard 1908 (not to be confused with Pieper-Bayard 1908), or in Spain as the Pistola Bergmann de 9 mm. modelo 1908. Although adopted in 1908 delivery of the approximately 3,000 weapons was not completed until two years later. Meanwhile other manufacturers such as Campo-Giro had adopted the 9mm Bergmann–Bayard round and, due to its long history of use in Spanish submachine guns, carbines and pistols, today it is most commonly known as the 9mm Largo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann%E2%80%93Bayard_pistol
- Danish 9 mm Bergmann M1910/21 pistol.
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At the same time the Bergmann–Bayard model 1910 was adopted by the Danish military. A total of 4,840 M1910 Bergmann Bayards was initially delivered to the Danish Army. The pistol was produced in Belgium until 1914, when production ceased during World War I and never resumed. The Bergmann–Bayard was later produced in Denmark from 1922-1935.

Several modifications to the original design, such as an improved extractor and bolt; a screw to retain the sideplate instead of a spring-loaded catch; and a new grip design extending the full length of the backstrap to the frame were made. The original grips were made of Trolit, a checkered plastic material similar to Bakelite. It was, however, prone to chipping and warping, and the majority of new 1910/21 models was fitted with checkered wooden grips.

More than 2,200 Danish Bergmann–Bayard pistols were produced in Copenhagen. In addition, most of the prewar M1910s delivered to the Danish army by AEP were converted to meet the new specifications. These were restamped "M1910/21" beneath the Societe Anonyme Anciens Establissments Pieper on the left side of the barrel extension. The last Danish 1910/21 models were built in 1935, but they remained standard issue for the Danish military until 1946 when they were replaced by the Browning Hi-Power.
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German forces received between 1,000-2,000 modified Model 1910 pistols from the occupied AEP factory. Comparatively speaking these are very rare, and had a distinctive wooden grip fitted and changed markings, but seem to have been mechanically identical.

Greece also adopted the pistol in 1913 (presumably the Model 1910) but no deliveries are believed to have taken place due to the outbreak of war.

Bergmann–Bayard pistols in .45 ACP were submitted for US army trials in 1906, but were unsuccessful.
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>>105218
The Bergmann-Bayard M1910 Pistol is featured at 9mmlargo.com
A bit of history on the Bergmann pistol, from "Pistols of the World", by Hogg and Weeks. The summary is this:
Bergmann secured a contract with Spanish in 1905 for the Bergmann-Mars (aka Model No. 6 or No. 6a), and had contracted with Schilling of Shul to actually do the production run. But Heinrick Krieghoff purchased Schilling, and Krieghoff cancelled the contract with Bergmann.

As a result, production of the Mars was licensed to Anciens Establissement Pieper of Liege in Belgium in 1907. Pieper completed the Spanish contract, and then made some modifications to the pistol and sold the changed pistol as the Bergmann-Bayard - this is the Model 1908.
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Pieper then made some additional changes, including finger cutouts in the bottom of the magazine well, and this comprised the Model 1910. A number of Model 1910's were sold to the Danes (as the "m/1910"). There followed a contract to Greece after the end of the Second Balkan War (1913), but the contract had not been completed in 1914 when Belgium fell to the Germans. Pieper production of the Bergmann-Bayard ended at that time and was never resumed.

The Danes began production of the Bergmann-Bayard in 1922, and ceased production in 1935.

Production Bergmann-Bayard pistols were chambered for the 9 m/m Bergmann-Bayard (our own beloved 9 m/m Largo), and magazines had a capacity of either six rounds (most common) or ten rounds. http://www.9mmlargo.com/1910/index.htm

- A Bergmann-Bayard pistol with extended magazine.
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http://7pistols.com/bergmann-bayard-m191021.html
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Bergmann-Bayard Mod. 1908 in 9mm Bergmann
http://www.hermann-historica-archiv.de/auktion/hhm58.pl?f=NR&c=94289&t=temartic_S_D&db=kat58_s.txt
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Bergman 1920s Trials Prototype Pistol
This was, as far as I can tell, the final iteration of the Bergmann pistols, developed by AEP in Liege for potential military contracts. It retains the locking system of the 1910 pattern pistol, but with a simplified disassembly method reminiscent of the C96 Mauser. The barrel was lengthened, the rear sight replaced with an adjustable leaf type, and the magazine capacity increased to 15.

This model appears to have been tested by the French in 1923, and probably by other nations as well. However, by this time the magazine-forward configuration was decidedly obsolete for a military sidearm, and no contracts were to be found. https://www.forgottenweapons.com/bergman-1920s-trials-prototype-pistol/
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  Bergmann 1920s Experimental Military Trials Pistol https://youtu.be/W8Nyp-uwmIg
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>>105214
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