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105330 No. 105330 ID: e9b3d2
Gun Review: FN M249S Semi-Automatic SAW
FN Manufacturing has been cranking out weapons in Columbia, South Carolina for the U.S. military for years now, winning contracts for everything from the infantry man’s friend, the M4, through the explosively fun M240B. Up until last year the civilian side of the house had been forbidden from offering civvy-legal versions of their military guns — the closest we’d gotten was their FN-15 rifle released in 2014. But last year all that changed and the “Military Collector” series was born. Now the average American can purchase a proper M4 or M16, spec’ed out exactly the same as the military gets them (minus the full-auto setting, no matter what you may hear on MSNBC). The most awesome offering in this collection so far: the Military Collector M249S.
The original M249 was developed in the early 1970’s. The U.S. military had briefly fielded the Stoner 63 light machine gun (LMG) in Vietnam as a way to provide front line troops with a lighter machine gun that was easier to maneuver through the thick brush and jungles of the area, eventually looking to replace the much heavier M60 and M2. While the Stoner design had worked, the military wanted something better. A Belgian company called FN had been in development of their FN MINIMI LMG for a few years by the time the U.S. decided to look for a replacement, and in a head to head competition in 1980 their design beat out both H&K (HK21A1) as well as Colt (who just thickened the barrel on an M16 and called it good) for the contract.
Something to note about the M249S is that it is a bit different than the other offerings in the Military Collector series. Where the Military Collector M4 is identical to the as-issued version, the M249S is instead a mix-and-match version that has been cobbled together from different eras of the M249 to create the most visually appealing and enjoyable example of the firearm possible. The purist inside me is complaining, but the execution doesn’t leave much room for argument. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/foghorn/gun-review-fn-m249s-semi-automatic-saw/
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>> No. 105331 ID: e9b3d2
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...As cool as it is to walk out on a range and whip out an M249S to play with, that ego rush comes with a hefty price tag. MSRP on one of these bad boys is $7,999, and that doesn’t include any links for ammo belts. The only thing comparable in the market is the ARES-15 MCR, the product formerly known as the Shrike upper, which allows you to use a linked ammunition belt on a standard AR-15 receiver. MSRP on that is close to $5,000.

Still, there’s something inherently cool about owning an M249. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all, and for some the envy of all their friends and eternal “cool guy on the range” status is worth the $8k.
>> No. 105332 ID: e9b3d2
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Specifications: FN M249S Military Collector

Length: 40.75”
Height: 9.5”
Barrel Length: 20.5”
Weight: 17 lbs (Empty)
Trigger: Single stage
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Capacity: As much as you can link
MSRP: $7,999
>> No. 105333 ID: e9b3d2
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Ratings (out of five stars):

Reliability: * * *
Keep it wet and keep it running. When it starts to dry out is when you have problems. Also, while box magazines might work it isn’t recommended that you rely upon them.

Ergonomics (carry): *
The gun is bulky and awkward. It’s very front heavy and not particularly well balanced.

Ergonomics (shooting): * * * *
A heavy gun makes for very enjoyable shooting. Laughably little recoil. Trigger pull is long but relatively light at 4 pounds.

Customize This: *
There’s a rail on the feed tray cover, and the gun takes standard M249 parts. Mostly. That said, there aren’t many replacement M249 parts on the market. Not that you’ll need many.

Overall: * * *
I like it a lot, but the price tag is bumming me out. If I’m honest, there really isn’t much you can use the 249S for beyond a range toy. Hog hunting maybe? Posing for pictures with Israeli supermodels? Home defense? Sure, if you want to set up a nest at the top of your stairs I can definitely see that. Other than that, it’s as useful as the I Am Rich app. That said, this thing is still an absolute blast to shoot and an amazing piece of engineering that I’d love to own and enjoy. If only I had eight grand.
>> No. 105334 ID: e9b3d2
  A Street-Legal Spec Ops SAW? The FN M249S Para – Full Review. https://youtu.be/ooNVyzkGb98
>> No. 105335 ID: 9dcda2
>>105330
I still think these are completely retarded.

Pretty much any semi-auto conversion of a full-auto gun is fucking stupid.
>> No. 105336 ID: e9b3d2
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>>105335
Indeed! But it's not the point that nearly any semi-auto rifle (AR, AK, HK, FAL, SKS, Garand, etc.) can do what this does and better. The M249S is a belt-fed semi-auto machine-gun range-toy for someone who is just aching to burn eight thousand dollars on such a... thing.
>> No. 105337 ID: e9b3d2
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Let me remind you of the M249 ChainSAW by Knight's Armament Co.
>> No. 105338 ID: e9b3d2
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>> No. 105339 ID: e9b3d2
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>> No. 105340 ID: e9b3d2
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Another review:
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/unleash-saw-civilian-m249-now-available-full-review/

And apparently someone here stated he bought one:
http://www.operatorchan.org/k/res/74530.html#102301

In addition to the standard M249S, FN has also released a limited edition of the rifle for an MSRP of $9,499. It comes with serialized ID tags, certificate of authenticity, spare barrel assembly and numerous accessories, all packed in a hard case.
>> No. 105341 ID: e9b3d2
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Vollmer Arms Miniature Model 1919 Semi-Automatic Machine Gun with Tripod, Case and Accessories
Vollmer Arms was the parent company of Tippman Arms, which is well known for it's scale firing reproductions of John M. Browning's machine guns. This Model 1919 has blade and ladder sights, with a vented head shield around the barrel, makers markings on the right side of the frame to the rear of the cocking handle, safety switch on the rear, checkered pistol grip and smooth trigger. Mounted to a scaled down M3 Style tripod with traverse and elevation mechanism mounted on the cross-bar. All fitted in a wooden storage case with two scaled down ammunition cans, one canvas ammunition belt and a bracket that mounts to the side of the machine gun to hold the ammunition cans. http://www.icollector.com/Vollmer-Arms-Miniature-Model-1919-Semi-Automatic-Machine-Gun-with-Tripod-Case-and-Accessories-Seri_i9966026
BBL: 12 inch round
Stock:
Gauge: 22 LR
Finish: matte black
Grips: metal
>> No. 105342 ID: e9b3d2
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Tippmann Arms Co. Half Scale Browning Model 1919 Semi-Automatic Rifle in Wooden Crate with Accessories
Estimated Price: $4,000 - $6,500
This is a beautiful, like new example of a fully functioning, true semi-automatic scaled model of the U.S. Model 1919A4 machine gun. These scale models were all produced by the Tippman Arms Company in the early-mid 1980's and are no longer produced. These are fully functioning and have the original flip up, adjustable rear sight and a folding front sight, tripod, the mechanism, cleaning rod, manual and two miniature ammo cans with 1 cloth ammo belt and 2 plastic ammo belts are all inside a scale wooden crate. http://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/56/573/tippman-arms-1919#detail
>> No. 105343 ID: e9b3d2
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>> No. 105344 ID: e9b3d2
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Tippmann Model M2HB Semi-Automatic Mini Machine Gun with Crate and Accessories
Start Price:4,000.00 USD Estimated At:8,000.00 - 12,000.00 USD
This is a fantastic example of a scaled down semi-automatic M2HB machine gun. This example is fully functijonal and includes a full compliment of accessories, ripod T&E mechanism, and spare barrel. The receiver is has the standard four line model/caliber/address on the right side. Hooded blade front sight and ladder type rear sight. It comes in the original fitted hardwood crate and is capable of shooting .22 Win. Magnum or .17 HMR cartridges with a barrel change. The cartridges are belt fed utilizing belts or reusable links with no change to the gun. The following accessories are included: a .17 HMR barrel, a .22 Win. Magnum barrel, complete tripod, two flashiders, two mini ammunition cans, two allen wrenches, a .22 caliber woven 50 round cloth belt, .22 caliber disintegrating links, manual, headspace and timing gage, Tippmann baseball cap with embroidered gun serial number (0128),
BBL: 18 inch round
Stock:
Gauge: 22 win magnum
http://www.icollector.com/Tippmann-Model-M2HB-Semi-Automatic-Mini-Machine-Gun-with-Crate-and-Accessories_i9387200
>> No. 105345 ID: e9b3d2
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>> No. 105346 ID: e9b3d2
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Vector Arms RPD-SA Semi-Automatic Belt Fed Rifle with Sling and Belt Drum
Estimated Price: $2,500 - $3,500
This is a semi-automatic copy of the famous Russian RPD squad machine gun. These were the first true Squad Automatic Weapon which were so highly successful throughout Vietnam. This example was produced using a new made, semi-automatic rifle receiver combined with a Warsaw Pact/Soviet set of parts along with the correct number of U.S. made parts making it completely "922 compliant". It retains the belt-fed mechanism with the 100 round drum. It has the later pattern laminated type furniture; contoured handguard, ribbed pistol grip, and larger profile buttstock with butt-trap compartment. It is complete with the correct style spring loaded bipod, brown leather sling, one drum magazine and a 49-round disintegrating metal belt and cleaning rod. https://rockislandauction.com/detail/57/461/vector-arms-inc-rpd
>> No. 105348 ID: e9b3d2
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Wise Lite Arms is proud to introduce our New Generation II M53 Rifle. This is a Semi Auto Yugo M53 belt fed 8mm rifle that is built on a newly designed milled receiver. This rifle is a copy of the German MG42 from the WWII era. The M53 is chambered for the 7.92 mm x 57 Mauser cartridge (designated as the 8mm Mauser) and can be fired from a 250 round can or from the belt alone. This rifle is truly a work of art. https://www.wlarms.com/product-p/m53.htm
>> No. 105349 ID: e9b3d2
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Manufacturer- Wise Lite Arms Inc.
Model: S/A AJM53-Gen II
Caliber: 8mm
Barrel Length: 21”
Overall Length: 48”
Weight: 25.5 lbs
>> No. 105350 ID: e9b3d2
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>> No. 105351 ID: e9b3d2
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>> No. 105354 ID: bf333d
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>>105335
>Pretty much any semi-auto conversion of a full-auto gun is fucking stupid.

They're fun. I know two guys with belt feds. One with semi only, and one with multiple full autos. They're both a hoot to shoot.

Also epic troll level for countries with magazine capacity restrictions. Most laws don't mention belts and a belt can never be legally claimed to be a magazine.

I was planning to build a semi PKM further down the road, but now that the EU is trying to get member states to ban full to semi auto conversions, I suspect I'd better not waste money on that.
>> No. 105727 ID: 8c18eb
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XM556 Microgun from Empty Shell Defense - The XM556 Microgun was designed and engineered around the 5.56mm NATO cartridge. This defensive suppression weapon is significantly smaller and lighter than it's big brother the M134. It was meant to stand in place of anywhere high suppressive fire wanted without the weight or footprint of the larger M134 electrically driven Gatling gun system. The current XM556 Microgun is smaller and lighter than some current 5.56mm beltfed Squad Automatic Weapons currently on the market, with 4x's the firepower.

The XM556 is a new platform system that was designed from scratch by the ground up. The parts are not just a smaller imitation of the larger M134, but were designed on its own. An absolutely all new style of bolt was conceived and designed to eliminate current known issues with the M134. The bolts combined with many other improvements have been made to not only extend the life of the gun but reduce wear and reduce or eliminate stoppages.

The gun is sold as a complete weapon system. Some mounts and accessories designed for the M134 will work with the XM556 Microgun to make adoption easier. http://www.emptyshell.us/xm556-microgun/
>> No. 105728 ID: 8c18eb
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XM556 Microgun Specifications
Caliber: 5.56mm
Barrel Length: 10" or 16"
Total Gun Weight: 16lbs*
Rate of Fire 2000/6000*
Total Length: Handheld 22"
Total Height: 6"
Total Width: 9"
Feed System: M-27 Linked Ammunition Belt
Fire Mode: Full Auto Only
Power Requirement: 24 Volts DC
>> No. 105729 ID: 8c18eb
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Discussed in this 2017 Shot Show thread:
http://operatorchan.org/k/res/102443.html
An expensive range toy, but this micro-Gat is intended for military use. May find even fewer customers in the military as a 5.56mm bullet-sprayer firing from ten-inch barrels would have poor accuracy and near-useless range.
>> No. 105730 ID: 8c18eb
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The new suit-case size minigun https://youtu.be/BkoWaVz6U3M
>> No. 105731 ID: 8c18eb
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The US military already toyed around with a lightweight .223 Gatling, the US M214 "6-pack" 5.56x45mm that fired 4000 rpm and only weighed 12.25 kg or 38.6 kg complete with 1000 rounds of ammo. Unfortunately she needed three car batteries to operate the motor.
>> No. 105732 ID: 19518e
>>105727
>>105728
>>105729
>>105730
I've shot some pretty nice guns in my day despite the handicap of being canuck. To echo Govie, we also get belt-fed semi-auto up here, notably the M2 is a good time above most.

But that micro gun.

It's a bucket list gun for me. I want to empty a truck full of belts through a micro gun before I croak. I want to become the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT.
>> No. 105733 ID: 8c18eb
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From top to bottom: 20mm M61 as carried by US fighters since the late 50's, a 7.62mm M134 and lastly 5.56mm XM214. http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=220233&page=1
>> No. 105734 ID: 8c18eb
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>>105732
You can compromise with a Gatling BB gun.
This Airsoft M134A2 6mm Gatling gun with ammo backpack cost $5,500, but that was years ago.
These guys are selling one without the (phony) ammo backpack for $2,688.00: https://www.evike.com/products/34905/
>> No. 105735 ID: 19518e
>>105734
Nah I plan to travel to the states at some point and shoot a bunch at a full-auto range, hopefully one that would have a micro gun.
>> No. 105736 ID: 8c18eb
  Airsoft Minigun Juggernaut https://youtu.be/E4l3qNiqFVg
>> No. 105737 ID: 8c18eb
  The M134-A2 Minigun from Classic Army [The Gun Corner] Airsoft Evike.com https://youtu.be/VQTcK5TmaDg
>> No. 105739 ID: c3b8cf
>>105735
I have yet to hear of a range that has a micro/minigun for rent, outside of one of the major MG shoots. There are places to rent a M249 though. Also, prepare to pay out the ass to rent full autos. The local ranges around me charge $60 just to rent one, plus you must buy ammo from the range on top of that.

Come down to Houston sometime, I'll hook you up.
>> No. 105740 ID: 19518e
>>105739
It's a bucket list thing, not a "next week lol" thing. Basically putting change in a jar so that 20ish whatever years from now I can blow a shitton of money on f/a rental stuff innastates.

If there's any of you still around by then, I'm definitely not against giggle switches with you guys, that would of course be cool. There's always the chance that I might be able to skip down earlier than that for an OPchan meetup assuming everyone keeps their shirts on...
>> No. 105741 ID: da39fa
>>105335
Yes, but if you really want an M249 that shoots real bullets and you're not a dealer, this is what you have to get.
>> No. 105819 ID: f5c3ed
>>105736
Airsoft, the closest cucks will ever get to touching a real firearm.
>> No. 105829 ID: 060ec8
  >>105819
Yeah, but as I stated in >>105734 these toys can cost so much more than the real weapons they are imitating.
Such as this $1880 Salient Arms SAI M870 Airsoft version of a Remington 870 pump shotgun you can find in sporting goods stores for $250.

Years ago, a friend told me he had an Airsoft M16 that cost more than a thousand dollars and then he festooned around $3000 worth of sights, lights, grips, lasers, etc. on it. I told him a regular-priced (not the cheap ones) AR-15 rifle that fires real 5.56mm death can be purchased for around $900 (this was years ago, I remind you). Well, you can't shoot your friends with that without going to prison, but when the airgun toys cost more that the real weapon?

But a $5700 Airsoft Surgeon XM2010 sniper rifle? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Sniper_Rifles_Airsoft_Surgeon_Sniper_Rifle_Airsoft_Surgeon_XM2010.htm

And $4550 for an Echo 1 M134 Airsoft Minigun https://www.airsoftatlanta.com/products/echo-1-m134-minigun-package-deal
TOP 5 MOST EXPENSIVE AIRSOFT GUNS! WTF :O!!! https://youtu.be/fF5nSGoihGY
>> No. 105830 ID: 060ec8
  EvikeTV - The Evike Custom "Optic Thunder" M4 https://youtu.be/An-nMlDeApI
Twenty pounds of accessories boosts this M4gery to a $10,000 Airsoft monstrosity.
>> No. 105831 ID: 060ec8
  Classic Army M132 Micro Gun - [The Gun Corner] - Airsoft Evike.com https://youtu.be/VLSQiTo95xc
https://www.evike.com/products/71996/
$700 for a toy BB minigun
Heavy duty nylon fiber reinforced polymer construction
Incredibly light weight (9lbs)
Can be powered by HPA rig or by directly inserting an entire green gas canister into the weapon
Incredible 38 rounds per second fire rate out of the box (48 round per second upgrade motor coming soon)
Individually adjustable hopups for each barrel; compatible with standard AEG barrels, hopups, and buckings
Spring loaded magazine (2200 round capacity) force feeds into hopper for positive feeding in any orientation of the weapon
Electric motor driven 4 rotating barrels
Joystick style trigger w/ grip safety
It is finally here, the moment we have all been dreaming about and waiting for. Never before done in the history of Airsoft, a fully functional Minigun style heavy weapon for under one thousand dollars.
New from Classic Army, the M132 Micro Gun brings the pain right out of the box; crush the opposing team with an impressive 38 rounds per second (2280 rounds per minute).
Powered by an electric motor for its 4 rotating barrels, and HPA / gas for propulsion, this weapons devastating effectiveness will have you grinning ear to ear as you properly demonstrate the noun "Overkill."
Unlike previous iterations of the Minigun, the M132 is actually viable to be fielded as its smaller size and incredibly light weight (9lbs unloaded) does not encumber its wielder.
>> No. 105832 ID: 060ec8
  Or you can make a reproduction of the old hand-cranked Gatling Guns. I have seen 1/4 scale models that fire .22 LR and full-sized ones that fire .45/70 Govt.
Reproduction 1877 "Bulldog" Gatling Gun https://youtu.be/ildteJbZ9Jw
Thanks to a friendly collector, we had the chance to take out one of the new, gorgeous reproduction 1877 Gatling guns being sold by Colt. It's a near-exact replica, with the added feature of being able to crank backwards to safely clear any loaded cartridges out of the action. Being a Bulldog model, it has 5 short barrels (18.25") chambered for .45-70, enclosed in a full brass jacket to keep the action clean. Colt claims it will do 800 rounds/minute, but we got it going a bit faster...

Thanks to an interesting quirk of US gun laws, the Gatling is not considered a machine gun - so anyone who can possess a bolt action rifle can own and shoot one of these. The crank handle is considered a trigger, and each partial turn fires a single round. Since a single discrete motion doesn't fire multiple rounds, it's not subject to the registration and transfer tax of a machine gun under the NFA.
>> No. 105833 ID: 060ec8
  M134 Minigun: The Modern Gatling Gun https://youtu.be/rIlwHT4IdRc
The General Electric M134 "Minigun" is essentially an electrically-powered Gatling gun - the conceptual operation of the gun is identical to Dr. Gatling's original creation. What has changed, however, is the chambering (it's in 7.62 NATO), the power source (an electric motor), and the feed mechanism (belt-feed using M60 links instead of the Gatling's Accles, Broadwell, or Bruce feeds). The weapon was a scaled down version of a 20mm rotary powered cannon devised for aircraft armament after WW2, hence the "mini" name. It was used primarily as helicopter armament, although it has found its way only ground vehicles as well. Firing between 3000 and 6000 rounds per minute, the Minigun is ideal for aerial engagements where the gunner only has a brief moment on target and needs to fire as much as possible during that moment.

It is a truly awe-inspiring weapon, and quite an experience to fire! In addition to destroying a truck with it, we will look at disassembly and functioning of the minigun - the delinking mechanism is really the most complex part of the weapon, and a very interesting device.
>> No. 105835 ID: 060ec8
  Slow Motion: M134 Minigun https://youtu.be/XeyVrLK03mc
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