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107430 No. 107430 ID: f6327b
I just returned from my first IPSC Shotgun match, the Shotgun World Shoot in France where I placed atleast above last place. Anyone else here with who actually shoot matches in IPSC/USPSA/2-Gun/3-Gun or similar?
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>> No. 107431 ID: 9dcda2
> first IPSC Shotgun match
> above last place

Sweet, you didn't get disqualified. That's step #1. What kind of shotgun are you using?

I shoot a couple of local 3-gun events and help run them at my "home" range. I usually do pretty well, like 5-8 out of 50-60.

I've been working out issues as they come up. I recently modified the loading port on my shotgun a little bit to speed up quad loads. Got a new holster for the pistol. Replaced my Bolt Carrier Group with a lightweight BCG, installed a JP Silent Captured (Buffer) Spring, and adjustable gas block. I had some issues with the BCG, but it turned out the Gas Key was not staked properly, and the gas key came loose. After tightening it down and staking the shit out of it, the AR is running fucking awesome.
>> No. 107432 ID: 9dcda2
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Had another match yesterday, with some impossible targets, some fucked up scoring, and my camera man mistook the picture button for the video button. So I've got some lovely still pictures of the starts and ends of my runs. Pictured is the end of one stage where you had a choice:

Pistol, 10 yards, 3 KnockDown targets, 2 medium size hanging steel (2 hits each)
Pistol, 7 yards, 2 KD targets, 2 very small hanging steel (1 hit each)

If you look at the picture, you can see I engaged the smaller targets. The left one is probably 1.5x3 inches, as the 9mm impact is half the size. First shot hits with the pistol.

But overall, I got third. And we had a good time. It's much easier when the top shooters are somewhere else.

One stage had a bunch of shotgun targets. 7 KD steel at increasing ranges, a KD popper which triggered a clay thrower, and 2 slug targets. For the KD steel, full choke would have been great. For the slugs, the max choke Benelli says you can use is Improved Cylinder. So, wtf. I left the last couple KD steel standing, because the birdshot wouldn't move it. Only 2 shooters had no penalties (excluding the 2G guys) and the average penalty was 43 seconds. Name that stage "Set Sail for Fail."

There's a scoring method called Time Plus Points. Which is actually just points, based on your time vs top time.

Raw Time + Penalties - Bonuses = Final Time
Top guy's Final Time = 100 points
Top time / Your time * 100 points = Your points

So if the top time was 30 seconds, and you got 60 seconds, you get half the points.
30/60 * 100 = 50 points.

So that's all fine and great right? Well they also had 2-Gunners, which didn't have to engage the shotgun targets at all. So having to shoot only 2/3 of the course, they completely skewed the scoring, despite one 2G guy having a higher final time than my buddy.

So, whatevs. I ordered Light Modified and Improved Modified chokes for my shotgun and a Geissele ACH charging handle for the AR.
>> No. 107433 ID: 6b2b62
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Competition is life.
>> No. 107437 ID: 6ca38e
  I shot a pistol competition on Saturday and had a blast. No scores yet, and there were some serious team shooters and very accomplished SWAT cops and what not in the mix. I know I didn't win by a long shot, but I'm hoping to be in the top 20% or so. 150 shooters, spread across Limited, Open, and PCC categories. Plus, it was a charity benefit event so that's double plus good.

Shot it mostly mistake free. Had some of the guys in my squad, the dudes who were winning, give me props on a few of my stages. Nice people all around. Main goof I had was on this in the video stage where I didn't plan a mag chance before the second set of paper targets. Had a decent speed reload on that one so didn't lose a TON of time. Also, poppers were set up in a bowling pin formation and my initial plan was to just drill out the center then clean up the edges. Well...they didn't fall quite fast enough for my plan to work so I had to adjust.

Gotta find more competitions to shoot. August is a long way away for my second visit to the 2-gun shoot that I did last year.
>> No. 107438 ID: 9dcda2
Yeah, not bad at all. Good plan taking it at your own pace. And the slower you think it's going, the faster it probably is.

My priorities:
1. Don't get DQ'ed
2. Shoot clean and minimize penalties
3. Shoot fast

So many times I've seen people go too fast and just miss, miss, miss. Or rack up a shit ton of penalties.

Check out practiscore, that's the app a lot of clubs use on little tablets to keep score. You can search for clubs and matches through that.


Or go to the shooting range's website and check their calendar, then find the club website.
>> No. 107439 ID: 9dcda2
>> No. 107450 ID: 9dcda2
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Jeff Cooper believed... that anyone who didn't shoot a 45 caliber 1911 was a commie pinko faggot liberal.

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>> No. 107451 ID: 6ca38e
I mean, he also thought the scout rifle was relevant about 20 years past any time it would have been.

>> No. 107452 ID: f6327b
I'm signing up for Finnish Brutality which is in August in Finland. It will be my first 2-Gun match, and I'm in fucking horrible shape. Me and a buddy will be sharing an Arsenal SAR-M1 (slr106 in the states?) in 5.56. I've paid for it, I just don't own it yet. I'll be shooting in Irons with a stock Glock 17.
>> No. 107467 ID: 61e76a
I used to shoot CPSA, if that counts?
>> No. 107613 ID: f8cb10
First monday after Finnish Brutality. It's the toughest match I've ever shot, and I'd love to do all over again. I competed in Irons division because I didn't want to hassle with getting a proper optics for my AK, and the irons are already pretty gosh darn accurate.
I timed out on 4 out of 6 stages, still one of the best matches I've shot. My favorite stage had 8 rounds of rifle shooting, 10 rounds of pistol (I used more because I didn't aim properly) dragging a doll with a broken leg 50 yards, and you do it all while wearing a gas mask. It sucked less than I expected.

10/10, would recommend attending this match if possible and they decide to do it again.
>> No. 107616 ID: 9dcda2
Nice! Good job dude.
>> No. 107617 ID: a7d62c
>military fantasy camp for faggots who were too sissy to join up in IRL
pathetic, you larpers are a joke
>N O R D I C B R U T A L I T Y
oh lawd, is it endorsed by hulk hogan too? I'm not going if Hulk Hogan doesn't think its good
>> No. 107618 ID: f6e0f7

Does someone need to explain competitive shooting to you mongloid?
>> No. 107707 ID: 9dcda2
Not impressed with the Hudson. It's fast, but this match was all about 3" squares at 15 yards. Granted I haven't been shooting much lately, but I think I would have done better with the VP.
>> No. 107710 ID: f5efe8
Is it larping if I compete in a techwear jersey with sponsorship logos on it? I honestly particitpated because the match looked fun and a way to gauge my skill level with my firearms.
If you think that you need to be in some form of LEO/MIL occupation to use my guns beyond the local indoor range where you take lessons from Voda, you can just go turn in your guns. You don't deserve the 2nd amendment if you only think it should apply to people employed by the government.

Also good on you for having the patience to atleast try to troll one of the slowest chans there is. I'm actually impressed by your dedication. If only you were as equally dedicated to other things in your life, you might amount to something.


I'm really curious about the Hudson, but the way things are at the moment, I'm sticking to the guns I currently have. I know there's a few H9s in country at the moment, but I don't know anyone personally who owns one yet. Thought about putting a RMR or DPP on it?
>> No. 107711 ID: 9dcda2
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> techwear jersey
The guys I shoot with are against the hyper-competitive image of the "silk shirt guys" with the sponsorships, so I wear goofy gaming t-shirts.

> I'm really curious about the Hudson

See >>107440

> Thought about putting a RMR or DPP on it?

Nah. I do pretty well with iron sights. The gun just doesn't do it. I really want it to work, but it doesn't. I'm also staying away from red dots on handguns or shotguns because it would put me into "Open" division. I run "Tactical Limited / Scoped" where you're allowed a rifle with 30 round mags and a red dot / single magnified optic. (A RDS with magnifier would put you into open.)

I try to keep my gear setup somewhat realistic. My Beretta 1301 shotgun has a 21 inch barrel and 8 rounds in the tube. I feel that having a super long tube is "stupid gamer shit", and would still use that gun for defensive use if buckshot or slugs were the answer. (Like buckshot would be ideal for an angry mob with torches, and slugs stop vehicles.)

So far I've been using the standard 15 round mags for either the VP9 or Hudson, but I just ordered two 20's for the VP. They're still within the 140mm length requirement for the "Tactical" divisions.

Guys like Karl at InRangeTV are running essentially "Open" gear with the weight penalty of wearing armor. "Armored" isn't a thing for the matches I go to. I mean, you can wear armor if you want to, but there's no division for it. And fuck that anyway, I don't need the extra wear and tear on my knees.

While I applaud you for surviving Finnish Brutality, I'm not into that kind of event. If I wanted to blow out my joints doing exercise, I'd do fucking crossfit. I do 3-gun to shoot shit and have fun with my buddies. Though I do pretty well, I'm not trying to make a career out of it.
>> No. 107712 ID: 9dcda2
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I am kicking around some ideas to up my handgun game.
>> No. 107714 ID: f5efe8
The Shadow 2 is a solid choice. There's also red dot dot mount available for it and there's a red dot ready version coming soon'ish if Carry Optics/Production Optics divisions interest you.
>> No. 107728 ID: 9dcda2
Totally wore the shirt. Two people asked me about it.

I did well. I would either be in the top 3 or not depending if you scored it "Time plus penalties" or "Points". I realize now that the points scoring system heavily favors short stages and limits the amount of damage from a dumpster fire. My buddy wrecked one stage, so the difference was middle or back of the pack.

I did very well on the long range rifle stage with my red dot. (As opposed to blowing it last time with the 1-6 scope.) At 100 yards, I held on the bottom of the target. At 200, right on. At 300, held on the top. I picked up some 55gr match ammo for the long range stage and the bullets went right where I put the dot, so I guess it worked out.
>> No. 107746 ID: 9dcda2
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CZ get. (In 7 days.)
>> No. 107761 ID: 9dcda2
It's good. Really good.
>> No. 107770 ID: c2c3ac
Fantastic and congrats! I need me a Shadow 2 in my life
>> No. 107792 ID: 11c82e
  Shot a pistolmatch a week, it went okay
>> No. 107794 ID: 9dcda2
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Nice work dude. The hardest thing is when you miss, you want to shoot quickly to make up for it, but then end up missing more.

Also checked out your Mini-14 video and gas mask video. The mini-14's I've shot have been pieces of shit.

And uh, who's the blonde chick and what country are you in that all of the competitors aren't just slightly pudgy bearded guys?
>> No. 107805 ID: 11c82e
I shoot in Norway, most competitors are pudgy weekend warriors who are only a punisher skull and a condor PC away from being your average threeper, this was a training camp that the National IPSC Rifle team puts on every year where the "plebs" get to ask them anything they want to know about IPSC rifle shooting and the national team will tell you how to do it and put up courses on practicing it. It's a really cool event, and I'm really grateful for being able to recieve world class ipsc instructions for a weekend for a laughable price (I think this years event cost like $45?)

The blonde is one of the top norwegian female IPSC rifle shooters I think, didn't have anything to do with her, so don't remember.
I used to date a woman that certainly alone would help recruitment for IPSC among boys if we had stayed together long enough for me to get some pics with her and a rifle during a hot enough summer :v

I try to record as much as I can of my shooting and publicize it to attract more people into shooting and help grow the sport. It would be cool if my channel grew to a respectable level, but right now I'm just trying to show off the cool shooting sports we have in Europe despite the political climate and belief that Europe has no guns.
This vid was shot yesterday. Still rocking my glock with a meme-compensator and $9 extended baseplate from Wish.
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