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107440 No. 107440 ID: 9dcda2
Now legal in Maryland. I get to pick it up next week. (7 day waiting period.)
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>> No. 107441 ID: e35b40
Got to try one out a last month, let us know what you think about it.
>> No. 107442 ID: 866d6d
What was the delay? Does Maryland have some dumb approval system like Massachusetts does?
>> No. 107443 ID: 9dcda2
Handguns have a 7 day "cooling off" period. Cause, you know, that stops crime. (Nevermind that it would be easier and quicker to head into Baldymore and buy one off a guy.)

Maryland also has a "Handgun Qualification License" to buy handguns. Finger prints, background check, and a class. You can skip the class if you already own a handgun. It's about $100 with no class, and $200 with. Fucking lame.

And the reference to "Maryland legal" in the OP was due to MD's Roster of Approved Handguns. The Maryland State Police (MSP) is in charge of curating the roster. Unlike CA, it's pretty easy to get on the roster. Someone just has to submit a sample for the MSP to check out, shoot a couple of times, then they give it an OK, or "Maybe Later". The only laters I saw were complete crap Saturday night specials.


Handgun transfers have to be done through a dealer or through the MSP. Long guns can be sold private party with no FFL. Certain rifles are banned as assault weapons, like the AR-15... unless it has a heavy barrel.

Another banned rifle is the Bushmaster ACR... but my FN SCAR is just fine. No restrictions on Browning Automatic Rifles, so the HCAR is fine. (Though I had to convince OOW to sell it to me.) Unfortunately the HMG Works STG-44 is banned. I guess when they looked up "assault rifle" on google, the original came up.

AR-15 lowers kind of split the difference (for some stupid ass reason) that they require a 7 day wait like handguns, but doesn't require an HQL.

I don't fuckin' know.
>> No. 107445 ID: f2172d

I assume there are magazine limits as well?
>> No. 107446 ID: 9dcda2
Indeed. 10 rounds. Can't buy anything more than 10 in the state. But it's perfectly fine to go to PA or VA and bring back whatever you want. I've already picked up 3 standard capacity magazines from VA... for a gun I haven't picked up yet.
>> No. 107447 ID: 856592
Can you get a heavy barrel and modify it legally? By modify I just mean mill it to remove some metal.
>> No. 107448 ID: 9dcda2
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Nobody knows. The definition of "HBAR" is... well there isn't one. It's basically up to the MSP to decide. The best guess these days is that if it's chunky looking and the manufacturer advertises it as "heavy" then it's good. The upper I built in CA had a Blackhole Weaponry medium profile barrel, so when I got to MD I went to a local shop and picked up this upper with a White Oak Armament 16" Mid-Gas Barrel, to which the shop engraved "HBAR" on the bottom near the muzzle.


It's a good ass barrel. Just heavy. I put the SLR-7 gas block and the PWS FSC 556 muzzle brake on there.

There's also assault weapon definition:

> OR



So for the SCAR, I can't have a flash hider and folding stock, but I already had the folding stock disabled from having the gun in California. So flash hider is fine.

Another banned gun is the AK-47 series... but then they just came out and said the Arsenal SLR-104 is fine... in 5.45x39. The MSP seems to be pretty level headed about enforcing the letter of the law. Which is unexpected for a law enforcement agency.
>> No. 107449 ID: 9dcda2
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Looking through the list...

Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3, M-21 sniper rifle, M1A, excluding the M1 Garand
Enumerated in Statute10/1/2013

Springfield Armory M1A Loaded-6.5 Creedmoor
Not Banned
Does not meet the definition of a copycat weapon or the definition of a copy, or enumerated weapon in statute5/2/2018

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Hill & Mac Gunworks STG-N
Not BannedCopy of an enumerated weapon 7/12/2017

Wait, it says not banned, but copy of an enumerated weapon... but there's no reference to a STG or MP43/4 on the list.

So if it is legal, I'm so getting one, if they ever actually make a product.

I don't do EVERYTHING InRange TV does... we just have very similar interests. But Karl has stupid hair.

Another good one, "Dragunov Chinese made semi–auto" is banned, but my buddy has a Russian Tigr Dragunov rifle. (Which is a lot lighter and handier than you'd expect.)


> a firearm that is any of the following specific assault weapons or their copies, regardless of which company produced and manufactured that assault weapon:

(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK–47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM–1 type semi–auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi–auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi–auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi–auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi–auto;
(viii) Auto–Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi–automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi–auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi–auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi–auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M–100 and M–900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi–auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C–9 carbines;
(xv) Colt AR–15, CAR–15, and all imitations except Colt AR–15 Sporter H–BAR rifle;
(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K–1, and K–2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi–auto;
(xviii) Famas semi–auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT–9 semi–auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi–auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr–AUG–SA semi–auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi–auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK–91 A3, HK–93 A2, HK–94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii) Manchester Arms “Commando” MK–45, MK–9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC–1 semi–auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini–14 folding stock model (.223 caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP–74 Commando type semi–auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM–59, SAR–48, G3, SAR–3, M–21 sniper rifle, M1A, excluding the M1 Garand;
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi–auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi–auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M–76 and M–78 semi–auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms “Nighthawk” semi–auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi–auto “Terry”.
>> No. 107493 ID: 758a23
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I shot it and the accuracy sucks, probably due to the sights. 7 yards. The scoring key for the target is 5x3.5 inches, so the group is about 3" low and 1" left. At 7 yards. Wtf.

Had another shooter try it with the same low-left tendency. I then shot my buddy's Dan Wesson 1911 and completely removed the head from the scoring key on the target.

Everything else about it is awesome. The recoil is nice and the muzzle flip reduction is real. No problems with function for ~150 rounds.
>> No. 107494 ID: 758a23
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VP9 (non-night sights) on the left, Hudson on the right. I really dislike the the trijicon HD sights. For the Hudson, you try to not-occlude the orange dot as much as possible. It's a very gross / defensive type sight.

I've got 3-dot sights on almost all of my other guns because that's what works for me. I focus on the the target and my brain works out the 3-dot alignment.
>> No. 107495 ID: 758a23
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Comparing the Hudson to the Sig226 in terms of bore axis. I lined up the backstrap and triggers. Quite a difference. The weight on these two is about the same at 34oz, despite the Sig having an aluminum frame while the Hudson has a steel frame.
>> No. 107496 ID: 758a23
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The Hudson and the King of High Bore Axis, the Mauser C96.

1896 to 2017. 121 years of duty 9mm pistols.
>> No. 107497 ID: 758a23
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Top shot of a G19, Hudson, and 1911. The Hudson is slimmer than the G19.
>> No. 107517 ID: 9dcda2
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New Dawson precision front sight. Ordered the DP .170 x .100 sight. The original sight is .215 x .145.
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New sight picture. The elevation difference is very noticeable. We'll see how it shoots.
>> No. 107589 ID: 9dcda2
Finally got out to the range today. The new front sight is significantly better than the stock one and the elevation is just about right. I still want a 3-dot setup, so I'll get a new rear when it's available. Another guy had a stock H9 and for me, it was shooting about 2 feet low at 50 yards. (It was also shooting low for him, but we didn't quantify it.)

I still think the mechanical accuracy kinda sucks. Or maybe it's still an issue with the sights. Me and the homies were pounding the shit out some steel at 25 yards with no problems. I picked a rock on the 50 yard berm and was getting about a (very roughly) 10 inch group. My group with the VP9 was half that, and the Kahr CW9 pocket rocket was right in between the two.

The pocket pistol shoots better groups.

> Noodles playing guitar on a baggage claim unrelated. I realize now that I should have got some video or at least pictures from today. I did shoot a gold plated 44 desert eagle tho.
>> No. 107590 ID: 9dcda2
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A few other notes, everyone who shot it liked it. They said it was smooth, had a great trigger, and felt amazing in the hand. (It's slimmer than any other double stack pistol.) I found the the low bore axis to be a real benefit and the mag changes to be fast.

So yeah, it's everything you could ever want, except for having the wrong sights from the factory and meh accuracy. I'm going to continue using the VP9 as my primary competition handgun, and use the H9 when the mood strikes or as a range gun.

Shopping list: 20 round mags, match barrel (or other accuracy fix), slightly more grippy stocks, new rear sight.

My gun is up to about 400 rounds with no issues. (With 250 today.)

Checking the internet, my claim for 10" at 50 yards seems to coincide with this guy's 5" at 25 yards.


> Accuracy Data is as follows. Sandbagged 25 yards. Sixteen 5 shot groups with the Hudson H9. Four groups each with Federal American Eagle 115FMJ, Federal Train and Protect 115HP, Hornady 125 HAP Steel Match and Federal American Eagle 147FP. Additionally, I shot “proof groups” using two other striker fired handguns of similar sight radius and trigger quality. This can be seen on the test target photos, where the upper-most 5 shot group is either a Canik TP9SA or a Grand Power Q100, along with the Hudson’s effort.

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