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108123 No. 108123 ID: b6e91c
I wish guns didn't cost so damn much as a hobby.
My city is being gentrified so jobs are getting shittyer and rent is going up. And since gentrification means your comunity gets replaced with well off liberals, all these new voters are making voting to make all kinds of new fees and taxes on anything gun related.

Post guns you wish you could afford.
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>> No. 108124 ID: bbee29
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>can't afford
L-39 but an S-18 would be fine too
>> No. 108125 ID: bbee29
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Most nice rifles chambered in 450 Rigby are going to be out of my budget for a while.
>> No. 108126 ID: bbee29
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Valmets are pretty.
>> No. 108127 ID: bbee29
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Last but not least, a Bofors.

honorable mentions
>gucci AR15 builds
>gucci AR10 builds
>double rifles
>quality SXS
>S&W performance center revolvers
>> No. 108128 ID: e56201
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Yes, it's because of SOC.
>> No. 108129 ID: e56201
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Also because of SOC. I hear it's not really that great of a gun but I love the look.
>> No. 108130 ID: 9dcda2
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I'd love to have a SVD. Especially if they made a ~18" barrel version with a 20 round magazine. My buddy has a standard Tigr in 7.62x54R and it's really nice. It's actually a lot lighter than you'd expect.
>> No. 108131 ID: 9dcda2
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> Hey man, you wanna shoot it like a pistol?
> Yes I do.
>> No. 108132 ID: 9dcda2
  Probably my dream gun would be a MP5SD.

In fact, if someone made a semi-auto clone with a 16" barrel and mock suppressor, I'd buy the fuck out of it and use it for a PCC.
>> No. 108134 ID: e56201
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Also, do airguns count? I've wanted one of these for years, and technically I COULD afford it, but I can't quite bring myself to drop ~2500 on the gun+glass+filling method just to pop starlings and english sparrows.
>> No. 108136 ID: fe0cf7
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Would love to have a Vietnam War era Remington 700 or Winchester Model 70 sniper rifle with a Hi-Lux or Unertl scope, but they are crazy-expensive.
Yeah, I know there are plenty of modern scopes far better than the old and obsolete Unertl scopes, but I like these old optics.
>> No. 108137 ID: 9dcda2
Only $16,100 at auction. My dream BAR would be an Ohio Ordnance Works HCAR with a deep blued finish, full-auto closed bolt trigger mech, and chambered in some lighter caliber in the 6.5 to 7mm range.

I've got a HCAR and it's fucking awesome. It's incredibly loud with the surefire muzzle brake, but hardly recoils. With a lighter cartridge, it would be even better.
>> No. 108138 ID: 9dcda2
  Ian is living the dream.
>> No. 108139 ID: 9dcda2
  I don't know about the walking fire tho.
>> No. 108140 ID: 9dcda2
>> No. 108166 ID: 5c87e8
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I'll never be able to afford the kind of large mobilized artillery I fetishize. I'll never let off all eight 0.50 barrels at the same from my P-47. I will never BBBBRRRRRTTTTTT out of a gun barrel. I'll never be in the conning tower of a battleship when it fires a full broadside at that other battleship halfway hidden under the horizon. I will never turn the polished brass crank of a gattling gun and listen to it not quite drowning out the war cries and thundering hooves of a surprise attack by indians on horseback.
I will never never
>> No. 108218 ID: dec0ec
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I really wish I could fire the SMAW again. It was just to much fun letting a rocket fly out. Although the 5-6k per rocket would suck. Also A Guestav would be fun to own and operate too even though I have no clue how to use it.
>> No. 108219 ID: 9d5275
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You could probably figure it out.
Hopefully the instructions are not printed in Swedish.
>> No. 108220 ID: 9dcda2
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>>108218 >>108219
The Swedish are well known for their easy to understand instructions.
>> No. 108221 ID: dec0ec
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Well luckily most single use and multi-use rocket launchers have "dumb" proof direction on the launcher or on the rocket.
Although I have see too many people try and use them backwards.The only thing i wish the put on things in bold letters is that it is recoiless so they don't anticipate the shot and put the rocket in the ground.
>> No. 108265 ID: 0adccc
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An LMG-25, or honestly, any of Adolph Furrer's designs. Parts are unobtanium to even attempt building a semi, and its really the last big piece missing from my Swiss guns collection, but itll never happen.

Any of the protoype Swiss semi-autos like the Sk-46 or Ak-44 where they jammed a semi-auto action into a K31.

And of course, the VSS.
>> No. 108351 ID: 2635f4
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Go big or go home. This thing plus ammo for the launcher. If only if only...
>> No. 108377 ID: 51b0a9
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>Post guns you wish you could afford.

Here you go-
>> No. 108381 ID: bbee29

>> No. 108383 ID: 51b0a9

They'll shake your fillings loose.
Ask me how I know.
>> No. 108385 ID: bbee29
I've shot that exact rifle before, it's a hoot. I actually contacted the previous owner to check if he wasn't in some sort of trouble, I didn't expect him to sell it.

Thankfully he's ok and just funding other projects.
>> No. 108386 ID: a067fa
How would you feed something like this in the long run? I see it comes with reloading dies, but won't the cases wear out after a while?
>> No. 108387 ID: 6fe1bd
20x138b cases are relatively easy to lathe-turn, so are the bullets. Handloading isn't too bad either, 50 bmg primer pockets for CCI#35 work but we found they needed a bit of help with a small teabag of FFFF black powder under the stout load of vit 20n29. IIRC it was ~650 grains, but I may be off on those numbers, it was a while ago. Top it off with a cotton ball and a bullet.

14.5x114 is a bit more complex because of what country I live in, brass is harder to find. I have a source for steel cases and I treasure the brass cases dearly, I haven't seen any since I nabbed the ones I got years ago. You can't really turn 14.5 cases easily like you can 20mm, too much bottleneck. Theoretically, you could turn and form them after, but I don't have much experience with that kind of forging and I'd be worried trying this sort of thing out on my PTRD.
>> No. 108393 ID: 67cd4b
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I have heard stories of people who found old crates of this stuff for cheap, but I imagine the pickings are scarce now.
- Finnish WW2 Lahti 20x138mm anti-tank rifle rounds
>> No. 108394 ID: 51b0a9
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SiG 44-16.
A WW2 era high cap single action based on the P-210.

Not only do I want one, I want one with many mags. To use in semi-casual three gun matches.
>> No. 108396 ID: 67cd4b
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Finnish WW2 Lahti M-39 20x138mm anti-tank rifle ad, $275, Shotgun News, 1983.
>> No. 108397 ID: 51b0a9

You are not missing much. Lots of noise, a kick about like a high dram 12 gauge, and a blue streak toward the target.

Now, the 2CM FLAK30 was a hoot. Stomp the pedal, and all kinds of fun sprung forth.
>> No. 108398 ID: 67cd4b
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Never seen that one advertised in the Shotgun News or fired at any range I have been at or seen in videos. The German/Swiss Solothurn S-18/1000 20mm ATG seems to be a lot more accessible and popular among big gum enthusiasts.

- 2 cm FlaK 30 Flakvierling light anti-aircraft gun at the Imperial War Museum.
>> No. 108399 ID: 67cd4b
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German WW2 20mm FlaK 30 Flakvierling AAG in Finnish use.
>> No. 108400 ID: 67cd4b
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Another gun for the big belted 20x138mm round is the German/Swiss WW2 Panzerbuchse Solothurn S18/1000 anti-tank rifle.
Blurring the boundary between man-portable ATRs and bigger ATGs.
>> No. 108401 ID: 51b0a9

Yeah the Si-1000 is easier to find, but boring.
Get a FLAK. Trailer mounted,optical sight, and if you have the dosh, well, "big sandy AA shoot". you are in. Pay a couple of kids to load and feed mags, and keep the pig fed.
>> No. 108402 ID: 67cd4b
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But they also came with these handy trailers you could drag around. Because the rifle weighed 118 pounds.
>> No. 108403 ID: 67cd4b
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Swiss Solothurn S-18-1000 20mm Anti-Tank Gun
Another Swiss anti-tank weapon – the Solothurn S-18/1000. This semi-auto gun has a short barrel recoiling mechanism of operation. It is chambered in 20x138mmB cartridge like the Lahti L-39. Another similar design feature with the Lahti is the ratchet crank charging handle which is designed to make it possible to manually pull the bolt back. The Solothurn S-18/1000 is fed from 10-round detachable box magazines. The carriage has a provision to store spare magazines right next to the wheels. This gun is consigned with 13 magazines and a number of spare parts and tools. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/10/30/7-historical-anti-tank-weapons-seen-in-morphy-auctions-catalog/
>> No. 108404 ID: 67cd4b
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Finnish Lahti L-39 20mm Anti-Tank Rifle
Another well-known WW2 anti-tank weapon is the Finnish Lahti L-39. This rifle is a gas-operated semi-auto magazine fed weapon. It is chambered in 20x138mmB. The magazine is installed from the top of the rifle and the spent cases are ejected downwards. Like many other weapons of this type, it was widely used in WW2, however, its effectiveness against the majority of WW2 tanks left to desire a lot. That’s why such weapons were more effective when used in anti-materiel roles.

This particular gun comes with the distinctive Lahti ski-style bipod attachment and a number of accessories including 8 magazines, 4 magazine boxes, cleaning kit, spare parts, tools, three rounds of ammunition etc.

Estimated price: $5,000 – $10,000
>> No. 108405 ID: 67cd4b
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"Keeping the pig fed" on WW2 20mm ammo can get pretty expensive. Even Browning fifty fodder is expensive nowadays.
>> No. 108406 ID: 67cd4b
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Sadly, the only big bore gun I have is a reproduction flintlock grenade launcher (aka hand mortar) with a 2.5-inch (63.5mm) bore and a .75 powder chamber. The necked-down powder chamber will accommodate patched Brown Bess balls if you want to use this for some sort of pistol. Normally, she was designed to fire tennis balls or solid rubber dog toy balls. Silly, but the ammo's cheap.
Previous models were made to load 1.75" golf balls.
>> No. 108407 ID: 67cd4b
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Can be used as a "less-lethal" rubber ball riot gun if the need arises.
Or a way to discipline kids who get in your stuff.
>> No. 108408 ID: 67cd4b
  Can Cannon https://youtu.be/L1f6Ip3dHPI
Looking for some summer fun? Get the Can Cannon from X Products. I've never had as much fun on the range. This beast shoots Coke cans and tennis balls, and works on an AR-15 lower.
>> No. 108409 ID: 67cd4b
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Best Fun-Gun Ever. The Can Cannon – Mounts on AR-15 - by DAVE HIGGINBOTHAM on MAY 10, 2015
The Can Cannon: http://www.xproducts.com/ar-15-soda-can-launcher-accessories-launcher
Though it look intimidating, it is the best fun-gun ever.
Awesome has arrived. That’s the slogan emblazoned on the side of the inconspicuous tube in which the Can Cannon ships. And X Products–specialists in all things awesome–have nailed this one. I’ve never had more fun on the range than I did with the Can Cannon. Never. Not once.

What is the Can Cannon? It is exactly what it sounds like. This is a highly modified AR upper designed to shoot 12oz cans. Coke cans. Beer cans. Whatever. And full cans, not empties. And, coincidentally, it also shoot tennis balls and other items similar in diameter. Simply pop off your upper, transfer over the bolt carrier group and charging handle, load a mag full of blanks and get to a range with a lot of open spaces. Wide open spaces.

And brace yourself. The Can Cannon kicks–but odds are you won’t notice. You’ll be laughing too hard.
>> No. 108410 ID: 67cd4b
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The concept is simple enough. Replace your AR-15 upper with the Can Cannon. It uses the same bolt and everything. Instead of loading live rounds into the magazine, fill it with blanks. Any .223 or 5.56 blank should work. They won’t cycle the action, but they’ll launch the hell out of a can of Coca-Cola.

The tube itself is a beefy piece of steel that threads over a device designed to use the pressure from a blank to push a can out the end of the tube. X Products calls it a gas ported barrel.

The launching tube screws directly onto the upper, and sits flush with the upper’s rail section. It is stepped inside, so that a can sits in the optimal position (bottom end in first).

Load in a can, cycle the bolt, aim in a VERY safe direction, and pull the trigger. Don’t get this order mixed up and load it, then stick your hand in front of the barrel. That’s not safe.
>> No. 108411 ID: 67cd4b
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The tube is blocked on this end. This is the small detail that would make shooting a live round dangerous/deadly.

Potential dangers
Let’s get this out of the way now. Before I wax poetic about how much fun I have had with this thing, I want to talk about the very real dangers it poses. This device shoots projectiles. It is built on a rifle platform, uses blanks, and propels objects at potentially deadly speeds.
>> No. 108412 ID: 67cd4b
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When I first heard about the Can Cannon, I’d envisioned a video opening that went something like this: I would set up the camera on a long range and holler to someone down range–“Throw me a beer!” The shooter would then lob a can of beer my way and I’d catch it, crack it open, etc.

Um. This is why you should always test out guns and such in a very safe place. When we first pulled the trigger on a can of Coke Zero, it launched the can so fast and so far that we barely saw it go. There’s no way I am going to try to catch a can shot out of this thing. It is a stupid idea.

That is only one of the stupid things one might do with it. There’s little to prevent you from loading a live round into this. And if you pulled the trigger on a live round in the Can Cannon, it would fire. If I had two, I’d test what happens. But I’m not willing to destroy this one for something I know is a stupid idea. The round would conceivably blow through the end of the gas tube, then whatever object you’d placed in the Cannon itself. It could also generate enough pressure to rupture the whole thing, though I doubt it. Regardless, don’t do it.

And don’t shoot at anyone with it. We played around with some tennis balls, but only from a really long distance. And I wouldn’t recommend that. Those fuzzy balls are moving very fast.
>> No. 108413 ID: 67cd4b
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How fast is fast? We did chronograph this thing, with cans and balls.

Let’s begin with a point of reference: a baseball, which weighs 5.25oz, traveling at 95mph has 99 foot pounds of force.

Baseball 5.25oz, 139.33fps or 95mph, 99fpf
A can of Coke Zero 13.08oz, 134.4ofps or 91mph, 226.4fpf
Tennis ball 2.1oz, 175.70fps or 120mph, 63.1fpf
In order to get 226.4 foot pounds of force from a baseball, you have to throw it at 143.67 MPH. The tennis ball has less mass–only 2.1oz–and only 63.1 foot pounds of force–well below major league pitching danger, but still smoking fast.

How far will it shoot?
Surprisingly far. We could get cans well over 100 yards. Tennis balls are more of a gamble. They lose their fuzz as the blanks burn them out of the barrel. Each shot trims the fuzz, and the balls seem to slow a bit more as the gas seal formed by the tight fit gets less secure.

We shot the balls and cans on a completely flat plane and were surprised to find that the cans were averaging about 130 yards. Tennis balls were over 100 yards, but didn’t have the momentum of the cans, so they came up shorter.

I should mention, too, that only good cans work. As we try to keep our costs low, I’d bought a case of Dr. Thunder. The Can Cannon didn’t like Dr. Thunder. The pressure popped the bottom of the cans. They didn’t go very far at all. The did erupt in a shower of gas-fueled generic sugary splendor, one that coats everything with a 25 foot radius–cameras, by standers, even the shooter if the wind is right.

But duct-tape fixes everything. A simple patch on the butt of a Dr. Thunder can gave it the strength to clear the barrel. With the quick fix, the cans flew just like the others. No can survived the impact of the launch.
>> No. 108419 ID: e56201
I bought one of these uppers last year and still haven't shot it. I guess I should now it's warm out.
>> No. 108450 ID: c5a8c3
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i want to dual wield this kawaii gun but i'll never even regular wield.
>> No. 108476 ID: 21a752
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Always liked the schuetzen stocks on single-shot target rifles. These flamboyant stocks aren't just decorative, they can fit your cheek and arm extraordinarily well! Martini, Winchester Highwall, Marlin, Sharps or any good falling block action works well with these schuetzen stocks. But they are old, rare and expensive. Some gunsmiths do make modern schuetzen target rifles, but not for cheap.
Here is a very nice Schuetzen rifle in 8.15x46R which was made by Johann Peterlongo of the well-known firm Tiroler Waffenfabrik in Innsbruck, Austria. The date of manufacture is assumed to be November 1908 due to the "11.08" stamped on the bottom of the barrel. The 29.5" octogonal barrel has a bright and shiny bore, an 8.75" long dovetail, and retains about 95% of the original bluing. The action is of the Martini type with double set triggers and retains about 20% of the original casehardening colors. The front sight has the original ramped base, but the sight blade has been replaced with a Lyman 17A target sight. The rear peep sight seems to be complete and functional. Both sights retain about 95% of their original finish. The buttplate finish is about 98%, but it most likely has been reblued. The buttstock and forend appear to be made of some type of European walnut. This rifle was made for a right-handed shooter, and as such the stock has been substantially sculpted with a cheekpiece on the left side and a thumbrest on the right. The wood is finished with varnish or shellac (not polyurethane) and polished to a high gloss. There are a number of handling marks in the wood, but nothing substantial. I would give the wood about 98%. Weight is 11.2 lbs. https://www.gunsamerica.com/917144324/Schuetzen-Rifle-8-15x46R.htm
>> No. 108477 ID: 76bf0b
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This magnificent rifle was made by Valentin Kern in Germany, late 1800’s to early 1900’s. It is a style known as a Schuetzen rifle, which was used in competitive offhand target shooting at various distances, usually 200 meters. This fine single-shot, falling block-action rifle is chambered in 8.15x45R, and features an elaborately engraved stock and color case hardened receiver, a 29-inch octagon barrel, double set triggers, and an integral, case hardened butt hook. https://www.egunner.com/valentin-kern-schuetzen-rifle-815x45r,name,12488019,auction_id,auction_details
>> No. 108478 ID: 21a752
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>> No. 108479 ID: 21a752
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>> No. 108480 ID: 21a752
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>> No. 108481 ID: 1665ef
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The levers on these schuetzen rifles actually make good pistol grips. Hope the legislatures don't ban these late 19th century target rifles because of that.
>> No. 108482 ID: 1665ef
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>> No. 108483 ID: 1665ef
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>> No. 108484 ID: 21a752
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Buchel Meister Schuetzen Rifle chambered in 8.15x46R and was originally shipped some time in the 1920s.
>> No. 108485 ID: be2bfd
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>> No. 108486 ID: 1665ef
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>> No. 108487 ID: 1665ef
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>> No. 108488 ID: 1665ef
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>> No. 108489 ID: 1665ef
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>> No. 108490 ID: 99d841
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22 K – Hornet husqvarna Model 33 action
Here is my favorite Gopher Gettin’ Machine. It is commonly known as a “separator” in the gopher fields! The action is from a Husqvarna model 33, Fagelstudere’, means “Bird Rifle” The originals were built for hunting a Swedish grouse type bird called a capercaillie. I wanted to copy an early European style hunting rifle for this project. The barrel is actually stainless and blued with a special process. Engraving is by Larry Merical, good friend of mine. I actually have a pair of these rifles, both actions purchased from Larry. The other is a 38-55, my deer rifle, also engraved by him. The scope is a Leatherwood, copy of the old Malcoms, 4 power. I shoot 45 grain Hornady bullets, groups are just under one inch at 100 yds. This a very fun rifle for stalk and shoot in the gopher fields. https://www.customrifles.us/22-k-hornet-husqvarna-model-33-action/
>> No. 108491 ID: be2bfd
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Looks like a Remington Rolling Block.
>> No. 108492 ID: be2bfd
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>> No. 108493 ID: be2bfd
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>> No. 108494 ID: 1665ef
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GEORGE NOBAUER PASSAU, SHCUETZEN RIFLE, 22LR, Double Set Trigger, Martini Style Action, 28 1/4" Octagon Barrel, Diopter Rear Sight, Sculpted Cheekpiece, Swiss Style Butt Plate. MFG: 1920.
>> No. 108495 ID: 1fd17d
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>> No. 108502 ID: 76bf0b
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>> No. 108504 ID: 1fd17d
File 155708270894.jpg - (349.95KB , 2816x748 , antique US Remington Rolling Block _38-55 heavy be.jpg )
And here's some kind of king-hell Remington Rolling Block...
Rifle build – 38-55 black powder cartridge Heavy bench gun
Follow the build of this 38-55 BPCR, black powder cartridge rifle, from start to finish. The action was an original Remington rolling block number 1 military action which I heavily modified. I copied a rifle action design found in Roy Marcott’s Remington sporting rifle book. This action had Arabic markings I couldn’t live with. I milled down the sides of the receiver to clean it up and polish to bring it to the size of a sporting model 1 1/2. I also added a spur on the left side to accommodate the breech seater tool used to breech seat bullets, as was the custom in the hey day of turn of the century target rifles. The trigger guard is English style from muzzleloader days and the trigger is a “speed lock” design. I welded up the half cock notch and stoned the full cock notch and hammer sear to give me a 1 1/2 pound trigger. This is a primitive trigger set up, copied from original rifles. Because there is no fly added to the hammer, the half cock notch is essentially removed. This makes it possible to set the single, simple trigger very light. Since this style rifle is only used for target shooting, the half cock safety notch is not necessary. The rifle is set up for iron sights from MVA, and a Lyman Super Target Spot 30 power scope. On my home range I have shot numerous 1 inch 5 shot groups at 200 yards. However I never seem to be able to shoot perfect scores in a match, I always manage to send one into the hinterlands when it really counts.

The barrel on this behometh came from the home shop of John Kreiger, by his own hand. He had machinery capable of handling the 2 1/2″ blank which was not available in the factory. I was aiming for a 50 pound finished rifle, however it is fairly light at only 38 pounds. When set up on the bench I shoot with a 9 pound muzzle clamp attached, bringing total weight to 47 pounds. The only weight limit in schuetzen bench rest requires the competitor must be able to place the rifle on the bench without assistance. After receiving the blank I milled it octagon to 2.150″ at the muzzle. The barrel would not fit in, on, or under my shop lathe. I needed the assistance of my good friend John King to chamber and thread for me. Then I commenced to turn this piece of heavy machinery into a rifle. https://www.customrifles.us/custom-build-38-55-black-powder-cartridge-heavy-bench-rifle/
>> No. 108505 ID: 99d841
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Here's some shots of it before finishing and engraving.
>> No. 108506 ID: 99d841
File 155709055590.jpg - (195.41KB , 1024x445 , antique US Remington Rolling Block _38-55 heavy be.jpg )
Looks like a schuetzen-style grenade launcher.
>> No. 108507 ID: 99d841
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>> No. 108508 ID: 99d841
File 155709083566.jpg - (173.49KB , 1024x414 , antique US Remington Rolling Block _38-55 heavy be.jpg )
But the charm of the old Remington Rolling Block is the thin minimalist lines of this handy half-stock breech-loading rifle from 1864.
>> No. 108509 ID: 99d841
File 15570909701.jpg - (72.18KB , 2400x1350 , antique percussion US heavy barrel half stock benc.jpg )
Here's an American Civil War era (ca. 1865) heavy barrel half stock percussion bench heavy barrel target rifle for comparison.
>> No. 108510 ID: 99d841
File 155709139215.jpg - (286.26KB , 2071x1000 , antique US Remington Rolling Block Model 1874 no_ .jpg )
This Remington rolling-block rifle is chambered in .22 caliber Black Powder, an early production S/N 71X made in 1890. It sports a 24 1/2 in. tapered octagon barrel. It is a model 1873 rolling block #4. The walnut stocks are old original with nicks, scratches, and wear. The receiver and barrel patinated, the bore is very good condition without pits. It wears a semi-buckhorn rear sight and the blade front mount is present without the blade. An excellent choice to introduce a young (or not so young) shooter to cowboy style plinking. https://www.lofty.com/products/remington-rolling-block-22-caliber-rifle-1-ql5z5
>> No. 108591 ID: 51b0a9
File 155710087387.jpg - (58.23KB , 600x389 , Stoner63lmg-1.jpg )
Yeah.Example one
>> No. 108592 ID: 51b0a9
File 155710154268.jpg - (171.97KB , 1500x1001 , 10495112_822716454419830_6045346825550822798_o.jpg )
And Example two. Save, that I've worked on this one. And know it well.

This is a M4A3E2, Sherman Jumbo, a "Heavy" version of the M4A3 Medium. It has more effective armor than a PzKfwVI, and a far more useful gun. (And a far, far more useful and reliable engine.)

I know this tank. It took a solid hit from a PaK 40, and shrugged it off. The shot took a large divot from it's drive housing, which was later filled with weld. Meanwhile, the tank and it's justifiably pissed off crew decided that "Running the sons of bitches over" was the best course of action.

Mind you, this thing just soaked up a shot that normally would have turned a "normal" M4A3 into a firey wreck. A PaK 40 is no slouch.

But a "Jumbo " is no average tank.
It took the massive hit, MG'd the crew and crushed the gun.

It was sold recently from the Littlefield collecton. It spent some time in Arizona in the late 90's.
>> No. 108593 ID: 1665ef
File 155710388329.jpg - (306.30KB , 1510x742 , German WW2 75mm Pak 40 anti-tank gun 3.jpg )
Impressive! The PaK 40 75mm is one of the best anti-tank guns of WW2.
As reports came in on the development of new Soviet tanks, Germany looked to improve their late-1930s era 50 mm anti-tank gun. The result was the 75 mm PaK 40 (PanzerAbwehrKanone), not only bigger but also significantly heavier. The new gun was built in only small numbers until the months after the invasion of Russia and actions in North Africa, when the need for such a weapon increased dramatically among German army units.

The powerful PaK 40 was an effective weapon against most types of Allied tanks, including the Soviet T-34 and American Sherman. The weapon, along with the famous 88 mm, was considered one of the best anti-tank guns of the war. https://flyingheritage.org/Explore/The-Collection/Germany/75-mm-PaK-40-Anti-Tank-Gun.aspx
>> No. 108594 ID: 1665ef
File 155710391872.jpg - (1.07MB , 2741x977 , German WW2 75mm Pak 40 anti-tank gun 2.jpg )
Because light and strong metal alloys were needed elsewhere in German war production, the PaK 40 was produced primarily from steel. Gun crews had difficulty repositioning the weighty weapon quickly and long moves always required a vehicle. Some of the guns, mired and snow and mud, were abandoned by retreating German units on the Eastern Front, captured, and used by the Soviets. Other PaK 40-type guns were mounted to highly mobile tracked chassis as German Marder tank destroyers.

In a pinch, the PaK 40 could be operated by one soldier. Normal gun crews consisted of five or more men working to service the cannon behind its angled gun shield and fold-down skirt. More than 20,000 PaK 40s were produced and German military units used the PaK 40 through the last days of World War II.
>> No. 108595 ID: 1665ef
File 155710396590.jpg - (278.88KB , 1280x960 , German WW2 75mm Pak 40 anti-tank gun 1.jpg )
General Statistics
Weight: 3,141 lbs
Weight in Draft (with accessories): 3,306 lbs
Elevation: -5 to +22 degrees

Muzzle Velocity: 3,248 to 2,598 ft/sec
Maximum Range: 8,310 yards (HE), 2,190 yards (AP)
Theoretical Rate of Fire: 12 to 15 rounds/min
Practical Rate of Fire: 10 rounds/min
>> No. 108596 ID: 51b0a9

Google "PAK 40 Youtube", and chances are you see the one I dealt with. Ian has a vid of it, firing at Flatiron mountain a bit west of Phoenix.
>> No. 108597 ID: 1665ef
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75 mm PaK 40 anti-tank gun at the yard of Mikkeli Infantry museum.
>> No. 108598 ID: 1665ef
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That station wagon better watch its ass since it probably does not have the seven inches (177mm) of armor of the 84,000 pound Sherman M4A3E2 Jumbo.
>> No. 108599 ID: 21a752
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75 mm PaK 40 anti-tank gun outside RUK-museum in Hamina.
>> No. 108600 ID: 21a752
  Jumbo Sherman M4A3E2 https://youtu.be/drUhB-hsgGQ
>> No. 108601 ID: 21a752
  Damn, nearly all the YouTube videos about the Sherman M4A3E2 Jumbo are video games like War Thunder or World of Tanks. Oh, well...
TIGERS WORST NIGHTMARE - Jumbo Sherman (War Thunder Tanks Gameplay) https://youtu.be/qk_QrWv_6Rc
>> No. 108602 ID: 21a752
  Pak-40 German 75mm AT Gun Firing https://youtu.be/T7fhBm1ouSU
While we normally stick to small arms here, this beast of a gun was just way too impressive for me to not pay attention to. I was at a cannon and machine gun shoot just recently where some folks brought out what is (I believe) the only functional Pak-40 in the United States. And shot it.

The Pak-40 was the backbone of German antitank guns during WWII, and fired a 75mm AP shell out to an effective range of about a mile in a direct-fire role, with enough energy to defeat pretty much any Allied tank except the late-war Russian heavies. It was fairly light weight given its effectiveness, and makes one hell of a concussion when fired.
>> No. 108603 ID: 51b0a9
That is the one the Hamiltons restored, firing at Flatiron mountain, west of Phoenix.
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>> No. 108606 ID: 21a752
File 155710835080.jpg - (1.62MB , 3404x2041 , German WW2 88mm PanzerabwehrKanone 43 (8_8-cm PaK .jpg )
German WW2 88mm PanzerabwehrKanone 43 (8.8-cm PaK 43) anti-tank gun.
>> No. 108614 ID: 21a752
File 155717058384.jpg - (83.42KB , 800x600 , bullets, 8_15x46R for schuetzen rifles 1.jpg )
Many old schuetzen single-shot rifles are in 8.15x46R which usually sells for $2/round ($39 for 20) or more, when you can find it. I would prefer a more inexpensive and accessible round like .22 Hornet, 7mm Mauser or .45-70 Govt (although I have seen prices of .45-70 from $25/box of 20 to over $70).
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>> No. 108630 ID: 21a752
Meplat, perhaps you may be interested in a more modern version of the Stoner 63: Knight's Assault Machine Gun? The Assault Machine Gun from Knight’s Armament Company is a very light machine-gun (9 lbs for 5.56 & 14 lbs for 7.62) with a low cyclic rate of 575-625 rounds per minute, and constant-recoil/spring run-out operation, reportedly making it more controllable than other similar machine guns that weigh nearly twice as much. Their design prevents the recoiling bolt from slamming into the back of the receiver so you have less felt recoil and the muzzle remains steady better.

Knight's Assault Machine Guns at the Range https://youtu.be/6hsOrULshco
Knights Armament introduced their "Assault Machine Gun" a couple years ago, and I had a chance to take both versions (5.56mm and 7.62mm) out to the range recently. The gun is the spiritual descendant of the Stoner 63, but is more directly mades on Eugene Stoner's Model 86 light machine gun. It utilizes the content recoil principle, with the bolt never actually contacting the rear of the receiver during the cycling process. This results in recoil being felt by the shooter as a continuous steady force instead of a rapid series of impacts and that makes it tremendously controllable. Not surprisingly, these guns are already being sold to military and security organizations worldwide...
>> No. 108631 ID: 99d841
  Knight's Armament - Light Assault Machine Gun https://youtu.be/EF9UThg7PkM
>> No. 108632 ID: f2172d

I handled a transferable Stoner 63 LMG a few years back. The guy I brought my f/a AK from had one. It's still the most expensive gun I have ever fondled to date.
>> No. 108633 ID: 1665ef
File 155764109719.jpg - (371.90KB , 5280x2100 , US M63 Stoner LMG top 1.jpg )
How much was it?
This Stoner Model 63A Fully Automatic NFA Machine Gun sold at auction for $69,000 (!!). https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/58/564/stoner-model-63a-fully-automatic-nfa-machine-gun
Picture not from site as they are making it difficult to download their pictures (assholes).
- Left side here: http://www.operatorchan.org/k/res/98094.html#99470
>> No. 108634 ID: 76bf0b
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>> No. 108635 ID: 99d841
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You have to right-click to "view page source" to find one of their auction pictures.
>> No. 108636 ID: f2172d
The guy said he bought it for around $15k back in 1990 or so. I got the AK in 2010ish, so at that time, I think it was worth around $55-60k. He had several LMGs, including a swede BAR, ZB-26, and Jap 99. Plus a polish kit/Chinese receiver Ppsh-41 and a Guide Lamp M3A1 grease gun.
>> No. 108637 ID: 99d841
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The folks at Guide Lamp bashed out these things for $20, back during the war (quite a saving over the $250 Tommy Gun, but not as cheap as the $10 Sten). How much is the Grease Gun going for, now? GunBroker has one for $11,200.00 + $150.00 shipping (are they shipping it in a mahogany toy chest?).
>> No. 108638 ID: 9dcda2
> He had several LMGs, including a swede BAR, ZB-26, and Jap 99.

>> No. 108639 ID: 76bf0b
File 155775653440.jpg - (214.14KB , 3600x1323 , Czech WW2 ZB26 German with SS Death's Head ma.jpg )
The Czechoslovak ZB vz. 26 light machine gun developed in the 1920s, which went on to enter service with several countries and it influenced many other light machine gun designs including the UK Bren light machine gun and the Japanese Type 96 Light Machine Gun. The ZB-26 is famous for its reliability, simple components, quick-change barrel and ease of manufacturing.

- German WW2 ZB-26 Machine Gun With SS Death's Head Marking
>> No. 108640 ID: 76bf0b
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Absolutely fantastic ZB-26 machine gun as manufactured by Czechoslovakia as VZ-26 with Spanish crest and taken into German service. Top of receiver bears SS depot death's head logo. Many of this model were captured when the Czechoslovakia became part of the German Reich. Whether they were already in Czech military service, produced but not yet delivered as foreign contract, or unfinished at the factory, all were taken into German service. The SS in particular acquired these in the years prior to their being allowed to procure weapons through normal military channels. Thus one will see “SS” markings on a variety of guns with otherwise different manufacturer’s markings. Germany took over the Czech BRNO plant and it became “Waffenwerke Brunn” and assigned the WaA 63 acceptance code. Completed, or near complete guns were inspected, accepted and sent along to be issued as needed. This specimen exhibits both the eagle over “63” proofs and a “death’s head” under what appears to be “SS 2” depot mark, above the original, partially obliterated original Czech proofmark at the top of the receiver. The original Czech applied manufacturers markings on the sides of the receiver remain, of course. Barrel serial number of “P3541” does not match receiver SN, but it is a vintage correct barrel with eagle over “63” proof and eagle over Swaztika firing proof. Left side of stock sling hardware boss is marked “30P 190” This is the unit designation to which it was issued. One original 20 round Czech magazine is included with this gun. Also included is redacted copy of original 1945 dated registration form. CONDITION: Overall appearance and finish is extremely fine to near excellent original finish on barrel, and receiver, with the metal of the lower assembly metal finish thinning to more a gray patina, with a peppering of gray pitting corrosion at rear of stock hardware. There are weld marks underneath and to either side of the barrel release latch on the left of the receiver, and cleaned up weld marks 1” to the rear of the latch on the underside of receiver which indicates this gun was a DEWAT at one time. Barrel release latch a plum color. Gas cylinder tube extremely clean. Buttstock and handgrip wood are extremely fine Bore is extremely fine, shiny and bright with some darkness in the grooves. Bolt is near excellent with Czech marking visible at top. Magazine also exhibits Czech proof with extremely fine finish. Mechanics are crisp. This is a select-fire machine gun with “20” “0” “1” selector. Absolutely stunningly attractive specimen with desirable markings. A great specimen of one of the best box magazine fed machine guns of the WW2 conflict. https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_n__absolutely_fantastic_german_ww2_zb_26_machine_-lot451228.aspx
>> No. 108641 ID: 1fd17d
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Barrel Length 25"
Caliber/Bore 8x57mm
FFL Status NFA
Manufacturer Czech
Model ZB-26
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>> No. 108643 ID: 21a752
  ZB26: The Best of the Light Machine Guns https://youtu.be/HcbFEIomzm4
>> No. 108644 ID: 76bf0b
  Shooting the ZB-26: A Jewel of an Interwar Light Machine Gun https://youtu.be/7BxgB1zoqKQ
>> No. 108689 ID: 51b0a9
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>> No. 108690 ID: f46323
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Well, for $4,000, this can be yours:
FightLight Ares Defense MCR Belt Feed Full Auto AR-15 Complete Upper Receiver (MCR-061)
Availability: Out of stock $3,999.99
>> No. 108691 ID: f46323
File 155824168131.jpg - (468.21KB , 3790x2527 , US M16 belt-fed MCR (Mission Configurable Rifle) u.jpg )
The groundbreaking MCR (Mission Configurable Rifle) belt-fed upper receiver assembly is designed to interchange with standard AR/M4 type uppers and readily fits any MIL-Spec lower receiver without permanent modification to the host lower, and is rearward compatible to AR15/M16 models produced as early as 1963.
>> No. 108692 ID: 1daec1
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Once installed, the patented MCR® upper receiver system can be user-configured in seconds without tools to adapt to virtually any mission profile. Specifically designed for responsible armed citizens, law enforcement and professional security personnel who wish to upgrade their rifle or carbine to MCR performance and capability; standard features include gas-piston operation for extreme reliability in adverse conditions; a quick-change (3 seconds) barrel system available in 12 and 16 inch lengths and a MIL-STD 1913 or optional KeyMod co-planar hand-guard with rail-interface system for the mounting of optics and modern accessories. Spanning the capability range from the optic ready carbine through a lightweight support rifle; the MCR accepts standard box type AR15/M16 magazines or M27 linked ammunition at operator discretion, permitting unprecedented firepower and weapon flexibility.
>> No. 108693 ID: 1daec1
File 15582417386.jpg - (435.98KB , 3448x2299 , US M16 belt-fed MCR (Mission Configurable Rifle) u.jpg )
. Drop-On Upper Receiver Assembly that upgrades your AR15/M16/M4 type lower receivers or rifles.
. 5.56 x 45mm NATO
. 16.25" Quick-Change Barrel
. 1:7" RHT, ½"-28 TPI & Chrome-Lined Barrel
. Short-Stroke Gas Piston Operation
. Dual Feed - Accepts ALL AR15/M16 Magazines & M27 Linked Ammunition
. Precision Machined 7075-T6 Billet Upper Receiver, Feed Cover and Charging Handle
. Precision Machined Billet Steel Feed Tray, Nitride
. Finish - Manganese Phosphate, Nitride & Type III, Class 2 Hardcoat anodize - Black
. Full-Auto Bolt Carrier
. Hanguard Style - KeyMod or MIL-STD 1913 Rail
. Optic Ready
. Ships with Main Action Spring, Bolt Catch, Carbine Stock Spacer, (100) M27 Links & Operator's Manual
. Made In USA
>> No. 108694 ID: 1daec1
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>> No. 108695 ID: 1daec1
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>> No. 108696 ID: e9dc13
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A Ciener conversion belt-fed M16 that uses a Colt SP1 lower.
>> No. 108697 ID: e9dc13
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>> No. 108698 ID: e9dc13
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>> No. 108699 ID: f46323
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Here is a shorty AR carbine that has been converted to belt fed.
>> No. 108700 ID: f46323
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>> No. 108701 ID: e9dc13
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>> No. 108702 ID: e9dc13
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>> No. 108703 ID: e9dc13
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Who can hold that grip, though?
Machine-guns for midgets?
>> No. 108704 ID: e9dc13
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>> No. 108705 ID: 48e02c
File 155824313288.jpg - (454.10KB , 1500x1213 , US AR-10 belt-fed created by Armalite in 1957 3.jpg )
Although further examining your picture, that is a belt-fed AR-10, not an M16.
The 1950s Embodied: The AR-10 Converted to Belt-Feed https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/29/1950s-embodied-ar-10-converted-belt-feed/
The mid-late 1950s… Could there be a more optimistic time in United States history? I feel there’s no better rifle to illustrate the industry, innovation, and unbridled optimism of that time than the Armalite AR-10 7.62x51mm select-fire military rifle. Made of aerospace materials, using an advanced operating mechanism, and weighing in at an inadvisably light 7 pounds and change, unloaded, the AR-10 was an exercise in logic of the type best said “we have defeated Germany and Japan, and split the atom, why shouldn’t we do this?”

I plan to write more on the AR-10 rifle itself (including a book review of the recently-released and excellent Collector Grade book written by Joseph Evans on the subject), but today we’ll be looking at one variant that was a part of the effort to create a whole family of weapons, including sniper rifles and light machine guns, based on the aerospace wonder from Armalite. That is the infamous belt-fed AR-10:
- Pic: AR-10 Serial No. 1026, with belt-feed module. Image source: danasrib.top
>> No. 108706 ID: 48e02c
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In fact, we are really talking about three different weapons. The first two are two single rifles created by Armalite in 1957, Serial Nos. 1025 and 1026. 1025 is notable in being the first rifle fitted for the now-familiar rear-mounted charging handle, instead of the trigger charging handle that most other AR-10s and the early AR-15s used. 1025 had no bipod, and cutouts on the upper receiver (which, like all three of these belt-fed AR-10s, was a unique forging) for the belt-feed mechanism. It also used a bolt carrier fitted with cams to actuate the mechanism for feeding in ammunition belts. 1026 added a quick-change barrel feature, a bipod, and reverted to the trigger-style charging handle. Both rifles featured folding shoulder-rest buttplates, common to many support weapons of the time. 1026 was fitted with both heavy and light contour barrels, and both Armalite prototypes used much heavier profile gas tubes than their rifle variant counterparts.

Ultimately, the Armalite belt-fed AR-10s did not work well in sustained fire, but in the late 1950s, Dutch manufacturer Artillerie-Inrichtingen (A-I) began development of another belt-fed model. This model was substantially improved versus the two Armalite prototypes, and several examples were made. It was derived from earlier magazine-fed A-I support weapon experiments, and featured an improved upper receiver forging with more material, a bipod, vertical foregrip, and quick-change barrel. The A-I belt-fed AR-10, like the Armalite variants, had an easily removable belt-feed mechanism that converted the weapons back into a magazine-fed configuration when removed. According to those that tested it and one individual who owns both types, the A-I belt-fed AR-10s worked very well, much better than the Armalite models. However, there was no interest in the weapons, and they remained developmental models only.
>> No. 108707 ID: 48e02c
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Chuck Kramer has posted photos of a Dutch AR-10 belt-fed prototype over at his website, GunLab.
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The feed tray is flimsy as fuck (I've dealt with a Shrike). and after only a few hundred rounds, it was showing severe wear. Granted it's an easily replaced bit, but I'd expect that part to be made of an abrasion resistent steel with a decent coating, at least a Park. Not a bit of low grade aluminum with a touch of cosmetiec anodising. .
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1958 ArmaLite AR-10 Promotional Film
A rifleman demonstrates the AR-10 in its belt-fed configuration, changing position several times before switching to feeding from magazines. Note also the ‘backpack’ belt box and controlled chute/feedway
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And here we have Gene Stoner firing his belt-fed AR-10
>> No. 108713 ID: 48e02c
  TAB Special Episode: ArmaLite AR-10 History (Pt.1) https://youtu.be/lvvbiPgGqpU
In this first part of a special TAB episode examining the history of the ArmaLite AR-10 Vic discusses the early origins, history and development of the now legendary 7.62x51mm rifle.

At the heart of this episode is a remastered version (certainly the best currently available online) of the c.1958 ArmaLite/Fairchild promotional film that features Eugene Stoner and shows many of the early 'Hollywood' ArmaLites in action!

The first part of this special documentary concludes with Vic examining a Hollywood-made AR-10B (the last iteration of the US-made AR-10s).

In part two of the episode includes an overview of almost every Artillerie Inrichtingen (A.I.)-made model of AR-10 including the Sudanese, Cuban and Portuguese models!

Check out our website https://armourersbench.com for an indepth article looking at the context, origins, history and development of the AR-10!
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  TAB Special Episode: ArmaLite AR-10 History (Pt.2) - Netherlands Production https://youtu.be/HF4MGkxX0XU
In the second part of a special TAB episode examining the history of the ArmaLite AR-10, Vic discusses the rifles made by Artillerie Inrichtingen in the Netherlands.

In what we believe is a first, Vic takes us through every major A.I production model AR-10 including the Cuban, Sudanese and Portuguese contracts as well as a number of special prototypes and transitional models. Grab a cup of tea and a biscuit, sit back and relax with a unique overview of some fascinating rifles!
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  Prototype full auto AR-10 from 1957! (Unicorn Guns with Jerry Miculek) https://youtu.be/UCmHxieQduE
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Shamefully shoddy!
Fightlite MCR - Belt Fed Bliss https://youtu.be/NdbtNKOwWVI
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Compare with the T52E3, a prototype of the M60 machine-gun in the new 7.62x51mm cartridge in 1952.
After the war, US arms development took the feed mechanism of the MG-42 and the operating system of the FG-42 and merged them together in to the T44 experimental machine gun. The T44 was chambered in .30-06 still, and featured an unusual belt feed mechanism which ran belt vertically up the left side of the receiver. When it was decided to drop the .30-06 round in favor of 7.62×51 NATO (at the time called the T65 cartridge), the T44 machine gun gave way to the T52. The T52 was chambered for the new cartridge, and used a more conventional horizontal feed with the typical top cover design (again pulled form the MG42). The T52 went through three more formal iterations (E1, E2, and E3) and then several variation under the designation T161 before ultimately being adopted as the M60. https://www.forgottenweapons.com/t52e3-an-m60-prototype/
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The T52E3 was the last in a long line of prototypes built by the US between 1944 and 1957, it would finally be adopted by the US Army in 1957 as the M60 light machine gun. It’s predecessors the T24 and the later T44 had been stepping stones leading to the T52. It retains the MG42 and FG42s influences with the inline butt stock and top hinged receiver.
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Interestingly the T52E3 also shares several features of the Johnson Light Machine Gun, with the front sight post, handguard and pistol grip being used, they may have been for ease as the parts were available. The T52E3 was an air-cooled, fast barrel change light machine gun with a front bi-pod. It was chambered in the new T-65 cartridge (the 7.62mm round also used in the M14). It had a cyclic rate of approximately 700 rounds per minute and was fed from a belt with disintegrating links. The T52E3 prototype came in two barrel types a light weight barrel (Image One) which was envisioned to be the standard for infantry patrols and a heavy barrel (Image Five) which weighed 7 lbs which was intended for sustained fire.

The M60 would replace the cumbersome 31 lbs M1919A6, weighing significantly less at 23 lbs. The T52E3 would be refined further until it was finally put into production in 1957, it would first see active service in Vietnam in 1964. http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/98838127879/prototype-cutaway-of-the-day-t52e3-the-t52e3/embed
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U.S. MACHINE GUN T52E1 .30 (T65) SN# 6
Maker/Manufacturer: BRIDGE TOOL & DIE WORKS
Date of Manufacture: 1949-1952
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U.S. MACHINE GUN T52E1 .30 (T93E1) SN# 8
Maker/Manufacturer: BRIDGE TOOL & DIE WORKS
Date of Manufacture: 1949-1952
>> No. 108723 ID: e9dc13
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And the experimental T-44 machine gun developed from the German FG 42 and MG 42 machine guns.
Manufactured by Bridge Tool & Die Works, Philadelphia, Pa. in 1946 - The gun is a conversion of the FG42 German, Light, Magazine Feed Machine Gun, with the belt feeding mechanism of the MG42 German, Belt Feed Machine Gun. The mechanical solution for the conversion was provided by the Bridge Tool & Die Works. The weapon is gas-operated blowback type combination; air-cooled; bipod supported; with forward handgrip and rear shoulder stock.
The receiver body in which the essential parts of the gun operate is a sheet metal fabrication. The barrel is permanently mounted into the forward end, and the receiver swaged circumferentially into a recess around the rear end of the barrel and secured by a locking ring, likewise swaged. The hinge member about which the feed mechanism rotates is welded to that portion of the receiver body directly rearward from the swaged area, thereby making the receiver body, barrel and hinge member an integral unit. Holding the receiver body in a normal firing position, there is an opening on the left-hand side running longitudinally from the welded hinge member for the length of the housing. This opening is bridged in one instance at a point located approximately 4" rearward from the hinge member by the ejector assembly. The resultant opening between the hinge member and the ejector assembly permit the receiver plate to position the shell cartridge for insertion into the barrel. Directly opposite this opening there is a similar small opening through which the cartridge cases are ejected. http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCGI.exe?IDCFile=/spring/DETAILS.IDC,SPECIFIC=9554,DATABASE=objects
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