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109485 No. 109485 ID: d507e4
Well, for those not in the know, Robinson Arms is releasing a small batch of M-96 rifles. (maybe 200) I'm already on the list to buy one with an MSRP of $2500 and change. Convince me not to...anybody?
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>> No. 109486 ID: bc1daf

No real reason not to if you want one, but what info is available on their QC overall? I have a friend who has one of their XCR Mini SBRs that seems to work ok but I know they're a small company and there may not be a lot of info about their quality available.
>> No. 109487 ID: 752a2e
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yeah that's where I'm having reservations. There really aren't even replacement parts available. Searching forums for owners the oprods tend to have issues, and there's always some custom fix.
>> No. 109488 ID: 38aaac
OK, $2500 for some plastic third party Armalite (Stoner 63) clone seems a waste of cash.
Although original Stoner 63 machine-guns cost over $100,000.
Robinson Armament M96 https://youtu.be/Bp2FSdfaoi0
>> No. 109489 ID: 38aaac
  The main feature of the Stoner 63 was her modularity (assault rifle, Bren gun version, belt drum-fed light machine-gun, vehicle machine-gun, etc.), but that is lost on this civilian semi-auto.

Stoner 63, 63A, & Mk23: History and Mechanics https://youtu.be/vCNw9Z2Q3T0
>> No. 109490 ID: 38aaac
  Is the Stoner 63 Really So Good? Shooting the Mk23, Bren, and 63A Carbine https://youtu.be/8LVWNGRjD0g
>> No. 109491 ID: 38aaac
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Knight's Assault Machine Guns at the Range https://youtu.be/6hsOrULshco
Knight's Armament Company Light Assault Machine Gun (LAMG), aka KAC Stoner 99 LMG
>> No. 109492 ID: 38aaac
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>> No. 109493 ID: 38aaac
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Review: Knight’s Light Assault Machine Gun
>> No. 109494 ID: 38aaac
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Knight's Armament - Light Assault Machine Gun https://youtu.be/EF9UThg7PkM
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>> No. 109498 ID: 804d8c
had one once. way too nose heavy for proper balance. I also talked to the owner of the company on the phone. after he told me there was to be no belt fed conversion I traded it for an Israeli FALO.
>> No. 109499 ID: ac4ac3
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The Hebrew Hammer?
The FN FAL rifle and the heavy barrel FN FALO squad automatic weapon were purchased and, later, domestically manufactured in Israel with their own peculiarities.
The Israelis put the FAL in service in 1955, which was a bare two years after the rifle was put into production in Belgium. These purchased rifles were used in 1956 in the Suez Crisis. Later on, Israeli-manufactured rifles were used in the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War. The story goes that the Israelis traded the license for the Uzi to FN for the rifles and the license to make the FAL. https://hebrewhammerblog.com/2014/12/04/the-israeli-fn-falo/
>> No. 109500 ID: ac4ac3
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>> No. 109501 ID: ac4ac3
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Imbel FN FAL L1A1 Heavy Barrel 7.62x51mm
This is a semi-auto build of an Israeli FN FALO "Heavy Barrel" FN FAL. Converted to semi-auto fire using an Imbel L1A1 reciever. It still retains most of the Israeli parts barrel, furniture, bipod and sights. These were originally built for the Israeli military as a squad automatic weapon. The heavy barrel aided in cooling during automatic firing and the bipod provides a stable platform for firing in the prone. This is a unique military adaption of the FN FAL rifle. The sights are adjustable from 200 meters to 700 meters. It is equiped with a gas port adjuster on top of the barrel. Only comes with one original Islaeli issue 20 round box magazine. The only part missing is the retaining bracket for the bipod mount. The bipod works without but the rifle spins without locking in place. This is a nice military FN FAL battle rifle to add to a collection or a very nice rifle to use at the range. https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/f-n-rifles/imbel-fn-fal-l1a1-heavy-barrel--308-winchester-7-62x51mm-sold.cfm?gun_id=101371258
>> No. 109535 ID: 8235e3
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I do miss the FAL... Divorce sucks... That is all.
>> No. 109536 ID: 0d01d8
Back when they were the Hot New Thing, on the popular Internet gun forums of the day (rec.guns, various mailing lists, etc.) serious QC problems were a common topic of conversation.

In particular the guns have some kind of quick-change barrel system, because the original full-auto Stoner 63 had a quick-change barrel system for the belt-fed SAW variant. Only it was "improved." And some guns were prone to launching their barrels downrange when you lit off the round in the chamber. No, I am not kidding.

There were also headspace problems, barrels with tight chambers resulting in extraction problems, (that $1400 they cost you back in 1999 or so didn't even buy you a chrome-lined barrel), and more.

I think they're a cool design with a Cold War retro feel. They're heavy and solid--seven and a half pounds, my ass, the ones I fingerfucked at gun shows back in the day were more like nine, with a massive receiver made of welded-together castings--and by all accounts if the dice rolled just so and you got a good one they were very rugged, reliable, and accurate, and they were a reasonable choice back when AR15s were almost equally expensive and the only inexpensive 5.56mm semiauto carbine was the Mini-14. But QC was spotty, Robinson Armament's customer service sucked donkey balls, and even back when they were in production there were problems with getting replacement parts. They were tinkering constantly with things like gas port sizes and placement to try to get the damn things to run reliably, so you get replacement barrels with gas ports in different places intended for gas blocks in different places.

And now I can't imagine the spare parts situation can be any better. This course of action is not to be countenanced, good sir. Not to be countenanced.

It'd be one thing if they were going to bring back the M96 in full production, only with a chrome-lined or at least nitrided 1:7" barrel, threaded muzzle, the lightening holes on the sides of the protective "ears" on either side of the rear sight, an HK33 style short birdcage flash suppressor, and maybe a Galil style folding stock. If you're going to go retro go all the way.

But this... what will you do if you get one and it doesn't run, and there are no more spare parts?

$2500 will get you a lot in the way of high-dollar toys these days. I get that the M96 is as close is as probably ever going to exist to a street-legal Stoner 63 clone. But is it going to run, and if it doesn't, will Robinson Armament fix it, or will they tell you it's an ammo problem, like they were infamous for doing back then?

You can get an Armalite AR180B for half that, maybe a third that if you find a used one in good shape at a pawn shop or a gun show, if you want to scratch that piston-driven Cold War 5.56mm rifle itch, and spend the rest of the money on mags and ammo. I'm just saying.
>> No. 109554 ID: 101bb6
Dont get it.

I too want another FAL and AK74. And another 226.

I only kept three handguns and one rifle, I put in the bank.

Everything else had to go
>> No. 109557 ID: c3cbd5
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But needs must when the Devil vomits in your porridge and you need to raise funds.
I was considering selling off my guns I rarely use, but am waiting when people freak out close to the election and start buying up guns and ammo. Like what happened in 2008 after Barack Obama got the Democratic Party nomination and prices of military-style rifles started skyrocketing, along with the prices of ammunition. I looked around for good deals and haggled out a good deal for a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 rifle (I had given my old M44 carbine to a friend, but still had cases of nugget fodder) along with a $500 Romanian PSL semi-auto rifle, rifle case, scope, extra magazines, and more cases of ammo for less than $900 if I remember right. Now PSL rifles (which are NOT SVD Dragunovs! but are fun 7.62x54R plinkers) sell for $1800+ and the 10-round magazines go for more than $50! Rip-off! And spam cans of 440 Russian surplus 7.62x54r (148 Grain FMJ) cost $180+. No, not the double cans in the wooden case 880-round bargain box, that's for just one 44-round spam can. Glad I still have a few cases left. But all that stuff is probably going to go, along with most of my hunting rifles, .22 target stuff, most of my muzzle-loaders, and most of my pistols. Probably just keep my matchlock stuff (1590 Swedish .75 musket and .69 horse pistol reproductions), flintlock 2.5" grenade launcher (can't get rid of that tennis ball gun), Remington pump 12 gauge slug gun, Marlin Camp 45, .45 ACP pistols (Tanfoglio Witness & Ruger New Vaquero birds head shortie), and a few other single-action revolvers. Don't need the money, just want to clear out space and to get the other guns to people who will shoot them.
If you, fellow Operators, needed to limit yourselves to just a few firearms, what would you keep and what would you sell?
- Belgian FN FAL with a Trilux L2A2 illuminated scope.
>> No. 109558 ID: c3cbd5
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SBL Industries SA FAL Semi-Automatic Rifle with Scope
Anyone familiar with these optics?
>> No. 109559 ID: c3cbd5
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Fine example of a British L2A2 Sight Unit Infantry Trilux, commonly just called the Trilux scope. Manufactured between the early 1970s and into the 80s, these saw service with wherever British troops saw action including Northern Ireland and the Falklands. Designed more for a DMR role than as a sniper scope.Shows signs of use but is still in great shape. Glass is nice and clear. Rubber eyepiece looks new and is attached to the scope body very firmly unlike a lot of these.Mounts are available for both British and American rifles of the period. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/british-l2a2-sight-unit-infantry-1911867188
>> No. 109560 ID: c3cbd5
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>> No. 109561 ID: c3cbd5
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>> No. 109562 ID: 101bb6

No I had to. I went back to live in Germany for a few years. No way could I take my stuff with me. I put four in storage (my P88 being one. Never parting with it) and just left. I had to get clean.

I miss our emails. Im glad your still around. I have missed you. You were always a rock.

I guess in my situation a Glock 17, A Walther P88, a 1911, and an LR-300. Because that's all I have.

I would feel better if I had an M4 again and an AK74. Mine was a Saiga Legion and 5.45 is really the better caliber.

Wouldn't mind a FAL for nostalgia and another P226 but guns are kinda back burner right now.

My ideal list would be:
-M4 Carbine with an ACOG or Red dot
-AK74 no optic
-Glock 17
-Some kind of AR-10/SR-25
-Mossberg 590
-Standard Metric FAL no optic

Really I could live the rest of my life that way. Kinda miss the AUG but not as bad as the AK74.

I remember when PSLs grew on trees. Shame really.

The gun market isnt what it used to be. No Mausers. No Mosins.

It is what it is
>> No. 109563 ID: c3cbd5
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The P88 is a very good pistol from the 1980s.
The Walther P88 is highly prized among collectors and sport shooters due to its superb accuracy (40 to 50 mm [1.5 to 2 in] groups at 20 m [25 yd]) and high-quality construction. But the standard P88 was heavily criticized for being bulky, heavy and expensive; the Compact version solved none of these issues. High-quality German pistols don't come cheap, you proles!
- Walther P88 with Nill wood grips.
>> No. 109564 ID: c3cbd5
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As Oskar Schindler said, "Nice things cost money."
>> No. 109565 ID: 101bb6
Well I had one in the early 90s. Tracked one down umpteen years ago. Posted pictures I know but that was like 3 laptops ago.

Its like if Walther made a 226. But nicer. Its a luxury piece. A nice gun but you dont really want to go beating it around.

I havent shot it in at least 10 years. I need to change that.
>> No. 109710 ID: 9d3e1a

Classy piece, HM.
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