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109883 No. 109883 ID: b09df8
If I were choosing between a .308 and a 6.5 Creedmoor in the same platform, is there any reason to go with the .308? With modern bullet design, does the advantage of more bullet mass do enough at closer ranges in terms of terminal ballistics to outweigh the well known external ballistics advantages of 6.5?

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I bought a Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 because I thought it would be more interesting at shorter ranges. Turns out it's just more shitty at all ranges. My buddy picked up the 6.5, and it's so much better. The biggest benefit to me was lower recoil. The RPR is bolt-automatic, so there's nothing to dampen recoil except the rubber butt pad on your shoulder. The .308 is a proper kick the the shoulder. 6.5CM lets you know there's recoil, but it's really not that bad.

6.5CM ammo has come down in price quite a bit, the bullet selection is good, and it fits in .308 length receivers. My next project (if I ever get back into gun projects) was to build an AR-10 in 6.5CM.
>> No. 109886 ID: ddd160
Shaking it up and speaking from a fudd hunter/cheapass perspective, .308 win is still my personal preferred short action caliber for two major reasons beyond my built up infrastructure for the caliber that I don't even own anymore. I can load a little bit heavier projectile for that slight edge on penetration and loaded ammo and quality components are more numerous, particularly now with most people understandably flocking to 6.5 creedmoor.

I can weight sort lake city brass, and often source pulled or surplus quality .30 caliber projectiles ie nosler partition cosmetic seconds, federal fusion etc. .264 is definitely scarcer. If I want to get really fancy, Lapua brass is much easier to come by for it from secondhand sources whether once fired or unused sitting in the garage.

I can walk into Powder River Taxidermy in Broadus, MT aka nowhere and buy an overpriced box of shit ass 150 grain .308 win core lokts in a pinch, probably not so much for the 6.5 yet.
I never thought that was a real problem until I was stationed in New York and had to find even .280 Remington for my hipster .280 Ackley Improved since all my ammo got left at home.

From a logical/ballistics standpoint I absolutely agree that 6.5 creedmoor is a more efficient, better overall cartridge though.
>> No. 109888 ID: 58727a
Absolutely! 6.5CM is superior ballistically overall, but .308 Win has better logistics.

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