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90456 No. 90456 ID: 7d8bca
It served us well. It was one of the most relevant fighting rifles built in the 20th century, but what about the 21st? My goals are...

1) Rebuild a M1 and make it mission capable for another century without anyone realizing what just happened.
2) It must adapt to an ever changing world that it was not meant for.
3) Accurate? Yes
4) A change in weight and balance
4) A lie...
5) Must use modern materials as much as possible
6) Of course reliable
7) Make old people happy- or maybe not.


All questions, comments and advice welcome. So it begins.
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>> No. 90457 ID: 23ad48
so a SOCOM 16 M1A?
>> No. 90460 ID: 7d8bca
>>90457
Nope. This will still fundamentally be a M1 Garand.
>> No. 90461 ID: adbbc9
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90461
well i know they used an m14 as a base but if were going to build a battle rifle for the future you know what has my vote
>> No. 90463 ID: adbbc9
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>>90460 also im confused it sounds like you want a SOCOM 16 M1A........
>> No. 90464 ID: adbbc9
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also...... holy shit i just miss clicked and realized that if you click the picture link it makes it bigger............... i have been here like 4 years now..... i feel like a moron...
>> No. 90465 ID: 360825
Still gonna use an en bloc clip?

I presume similar changes like the M14 -> M14-EBR, right?

Need to deal with the clip insertion and extraction problem if you want glass on it and have the en bloc. Suggestions?

Le pistol grip for accurate firing from the hip? :^)

A proper safety?

Do you want to keep the M1 thumb issue feature?

Big question: Same caliber? If not, then what?

>>90463
This. You might as well grab an M1A, M39-EMR, or something similar.

Just Saiyan. Still, I'll throw around a few ideas and questions.
>> No. 90466 ID: 92bd8b
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>>90461
>well i know they used an m14 as a base but if were going to build a battle rifle for the future you know what has my vote

The Morita Smart Rifles are based on Mini-14s, not M14s.
(Although I believe they show 7.62x51mm rounds in the movie, I'm not sure. The actual props were 5.56x45mm.)
>> No. 90467 ID: 92bd8b
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>>90466
>Mini-14s

Or well, also AC556ks.

The shotties were Ithaca M37, but none of the live fire props had both. The shotties were fake on the live fire Mini-14s, and the Mini-14s were fake on the live fire Ithaca M37s.
>> No. 90468 ID: adbbc9
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90468
could probably look into some of the improvements that http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/rifles/semi-auto/oow-line/hcar
did.
>> No. 90469 ID: 963c4b
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90469
Here's some modern M1 Garands.
>> No. 90470 ID: 963c4b
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US M1 Garand from Springfield Armory, commercial brown laminate stock.
>> No. 90471 ID: 963c4b
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US M1 T20 Garand variant, select-fire conversion by John Garand, with a BAR magazine.
>> No. 90472 ID: 963c4b
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90472
US Winchester M1 Garand converted to a BM59 style 7.62x51mm semi-auto rifle with a shortened 18-inch barrel.
>> No. 90473 ID: 963c4b
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US M1 Garand T31 bullpup .30 (aka the T65E1), John Garand's last design.
>> No. 90474 ID: 963c4b
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90474
US M1 Garand T31 bullpup .30 (T65E1) Springfield Armory, select-fire from 1949.

Sorry that these are a bunch of re-posts.
>> No. 90475 ID: 52ed6e
The M1 Garand is an inherently flawed design and is too weak to dirt, mud and debris to be on the table in any form in the 21st century.
>> No. 90476 ID: 6dc7ad
>>90475

I'd generally agree, but we know copper tape and bandsaws are going to be in play.

He did say mission capable... I'd say redefine the mission as shooting large angry mammals at close ranges under relatively controlled conditions. Like rebarrel it in a 416 magnum with a short barrel and give it a stock made out of laminate turtle shells.

otherwise yeah the best way to improve a Garand is to trade it for something good
>> No. 90483 ID: 1c2784
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Every great journey starts with a single step...

I removed the clip release by simply pressing out the pin from aft to front.
>> No. 90484 ID: 1c2784
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>>90483
>> No. 90485 ID: 1c2784
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>>90484
>> No. 90486 ID: 1c2784
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>>90485
Note the machining of the spring recess and slot for the clip release bar. Nice!
>> No. 90487 ID: 1c2784
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>>90486
>> No. 90488 ID: 6372b6
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Eventually I'll be putting more parts to my currently spooky skeleton Garand, pic related, and it'll be a normal looking M1 except that it'll probably be in 9.3x62. I figure since it's a Beretta action from one of America's iconic rifles, the caliber should follow in suit to be from another country; you know, just to be extra heretic.

I don't think I'll need to change anything in the action, bolt, and even en-bloc with the nine-three, since the dimensions are pretty much identical. Not sure if I'll get a plastic or wood stock yet, or to go with the good old sights versus a little optic, magnified or otherwise.

Stoplossed, I think I'm in here to learn for this, I can't say I know much about the M1. As for your improvement programs, right now I'm cooking my noodle to find a simple way of floating the whole front end with an AR15-like tube handguard. Looks alone at that point would rate a good 0.8 on the Stoplossed sanity scale, by my account.
>> No. 90489 ID: 3254ec
>>90460
Sounds like you want a BM59

Step 1: Obtain .308 navy garand reciever from CMP
Step 2: Obtain BM59 parts kit
Step 3: PROFIT!!!
>> No. 90490 ID: 40ed44
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>>90488
>you know, just to be extra heretic
You're putting together the rifle how you want it by jacking part, cartridge, and concept from other countries? Nah dude, that's American as fuck, pic related.
>> No. 90491 ID: 6372b6
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>>90490
But altering the design is heresy!

It was a little tongue in cheek in the first place, seeing as Garand was born frogspeek canuckian along with all the usual "rifle has features and stuff taken from other guns" hodge-podge you've also mentioned
>> No. 90493 ID: d2e752
Stoplossed improves the M1?

I'm going to need some popcorn for this.
>> No. 90499 ID: 943d55
>>90456
It's a semiauto rifle that utilizes a fullpower rifle cartridge of the type popular in the early 20th Century.

Given that the infantry rifle is, and has been since WWII, a secondary weapon (most casualties are inflicted by belt-fed MGs and mortar fire at platoon, company, and battalion level, and by air power and heavy artillery at levels above that), an argument could be made that the M1 is good enough as-is. You might want to rebarrel them in 7.62x51mm NATO, and you might want to make M61 black-tip AP or M993 dense alloy core AP the general issue ammunition for riflemen, to play to the strengths of the fullpower cartridge.

You might consider a shortened carbine version, similar to the T26 "Tanker." Such a rifle would weigh about eight and a half pounds, with an overall length of about 38" This is one pound heavier than an M16A2 with a fixed stock and 2" shorter, and a pound lighter and 3" shorter than an H&K G3 with a fixed stock. The 18" barrel of a "Tanker" loses very little velocity compared to 20" to 24" barrels. With a skilled rifleman, 600m+ shots are possible, a significant advantage over the M4 on the Afghan front, given that the Taliban like to initiate contact by deliberate rifle fire from 600-1000m ranges, and for political reasons the rules of engagement usually do not allow for a response with artillery or air power.

Use of disposable eight-round clips for the ammunition loading system saves lots of weight. M14 mags are very heavy.

The iron sights on the Garand are the best ever designed for an infantry rifle. They are also more environmentally friendly and ecologically sustainable than optical sights that run on radioactive tritium, which exposes civilians in the area to unknown hazards.

...this is all very silly, but how am I doing?
>> No. 90500 ID: 6372b6
>>90499
>They are also more environmentally friendly and ecologically sustainable than optical sights that run on radioactive tritium, which exposes civilians in the area to unknown hazards.

Didn't have much to object until that line. I had a good little giggle.

Yeah if you crack open the vial and drink the tritium, you might not have a great time, but the shit isn't a fucking salted bomb.
>> No. 90501 ID: 5917ef
>>90500
>Yeah if you crack open the vial and drinkbreath the tritium...

Tritium is a gas at STP, but that only further validates your point.

Hurry up and make this >>90488 thing man. You don't even know how hyped I got just reading that post. I started thinking about how one would cast an aluminium garand stock. While technically possible, I don't imagine it would do anything beneficial weight wise. It will PING eternal, shiny and chrome!
>> No. 90502 ID: 6372b6
>>90501
>Hurry up
Don't hold your breath, might be a few years before time/money allows it ;_;

In the meantime, talking to a guy with his own CNC lathe about 14.5 projos. Might make a batch, shoot some, sell some, see what happens. Whatever the outcome, it'll be in /st/ soon enough.

You make me want to make a skeleton M1 Garand, spooky stripped down with a floated handguard tube type of deal in front. Even more alien-looking than what Stoplossed could come up with; we're talking spehssgern level. It'll be on the drawing board for quite a while though.
>> No. 90505 ID: 1c2784
>>90501
>>I started thinking about how one would cast an aluminium garand stock

Lost-foam technique would be the easiest way to make that happen. Could be done in the garage even.
>> No. 90511 ID: 5917ef
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>>90505
Lost foam would require you to make a stock out of foam. You should be able to skip that step if you made a two part bonded-sand mold, carefully using an existing stock as the pattern.

>>90502
>In the meantime, talking to a guy with his own CNC lathe about 14.5 projos. Might make a batch, shoot some, sell some, see what happens. Whatever the outcome, it'll be in /st/ soon enough.
Hnnnnng


>You make me want to make a skeleton M1 Garand, spooky stripped down with a floated handguard tube type of deal in front. Even more alien-looking than what Stoplossed could come up with; we're talking spehssgern level. It'll be on the drawing board for quite a while though.
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
>> No. 90513 ID: 65c27c
Selling it and buy another gun would be the best way.
>> No. 90514 ID: 6dc7ad
>>90499

>With a skilled rifleman, 600m+ shots are possible, a significant advantage over the M4 on the Afghan front

The key word here though is skilled. A skilled rifleman isn't going to have any harder time making hits at 600m with the M4 than a Garand or basically any current service rifle. Hell, that's a large part of the why behind the Mk262 and similar rounds; to increase the lethality of the round past 600m.

>the Taliban like to initiate contact by deliberate rifle fire from 600-1000m ranges

No, they don't. Their typical preferred engagement ranges were typically under 200m; as in within that narrow range band you don't need to know ballistics to make hits with 7.62x39. Then they learned our guys can usually make consistent hits at twice that. They would use longer-range harassing fire, but that's far from deliberate aimed fire which is generally a glaring weakness of forces in the region.

Still, that and the tritium thing aside you do make some interesting points. I can't really argue with the rifle being a secondary arm as a generality, though certainly a still relevant and necessary arm.

>>90490

dat Mauser doe...

I just wanted the XM8 to get adopted so we could continue the fine tradition of rebranding German rifles as US and pretending nobody notices
>> No. 90516 ID: 42779b
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90516
>>90513

It's a stoplossed thread, we're being trolled.
>> No. 90517 ID: 8ae717
>>90516

Does it count as trolling if you know you're being trolled?

I look forward to the bubba'd monstrosity he ends up producing.
>> No. 90521 ID: dda126
>>90456

M1 Garand Improvement Program:

>replace it with an AR-10
>chamber it in 6.5 Creedmoor
>congrats, you now have a superior battle rifle suitable for mid range precision
>> No. 90522 ID: 775c47
>>90517
Seconded, however I cant quite call it a monstrosity when he generally takes the time to put a really nice finish on everything I've seen so far.

BTW mad jelly of the cerakote jobs he does in general.
>> No. 90523 ID: 7d8bca
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90523
In the interest of meeting the requirements of 4)

Step 2: Throw the original walnut stock in the trash. Along with the sling.
>> No. 90524 ID: adbbc9
>>90523

you motherfucker ship that to me right now, ill put it on my CMP
>> No. 90527 ID: b89631
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>>90524
Second in line on this, also will just take the sling if ImproExplo doesnt need it.
>> No. 90530 ID: 92bd8b
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90530
>>90524
>implying he'd throw it away with a sling etc on it.

I mean, it's stoplossed, but still.
>> No. 90538 ID: 943d55
>>90514
ah. I haven't been to A'stan, of course.

I just read some blogs. I'd heard that of late, whatever that means (post 2012?) the Taliban in some regions where long lines of sight and long lines of fire are permitted by the terrain, have been using a new tactic.

Find a trail likely to be used by the foreigners. Conveniently off one side of the trail we have some uneven ground, boulders, whatever, that say "Hey! Look at me! I'm really great cover! If shit happens you should come over here!" And in that really great cover, they bury a big fucking IED, the biggest one they can manage with the resources they've got. We will call this terrain feature the Really Great Cover, or RGC.

Then they station a small element with Nagants or Lee-Enfields a klick away and wait for Americans, or ANA troops, or guys from the neighboring tribe--whoever they've got a hard-on for this week, really--to come down the trail and pass the Really Great Cover. And they start taking potshots at them with the Lee-Enfields.

And they wait for enough of their opposition to take up positions in the Really Great Cover for it to be worthwhile to expend the IED made out of half a ton of TNT harvested from thirty-year-old Russian dud iron bombs. Then, BOOM.

I'd read that in at least some instances American troops had despite the long range been lucky enough to have a couple of DRM or GPMG teams along who were able to spot the Taliban and kill them or at least suppress them long enough to call in an air strike, the IED being discovered afterwards.
>> No. 90539 ID: 943d55
>>90514
We could have just copied the G36 here without paying royalties. That's another old American tradition.
>> No. 90550 ID: adbbc9
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90550
so i take it your not just trashing it?>>90523


also thanks for new name>>90527
>> No. 90553 ID: e1463b
>>90550
Don't you mean IED-sexual? Nokia-kin naturally?

I 100% don't know which tarded way this is going to go.

I'm torn between it becoming a DI gun with a pig tail style gas tube.

Or is stop lossed going to go full retard and go back to a gas trap or even a gas lever flappy thing like a potato digger? I honestly dunno.
>> No. 90569 ID: 6dc7ad
>>90553

>I'm torn between it becoming a DI gun with a pig tail style gas tube.

I'm not even kidding, the next time I build an AK I'm making one with a DI system.
>> No. 90571 ID: 943d55
>>90569
I've heard of a guy who supposedly converted an SKS to direct impingement operation, so that is very much not the craziest thing I've ever heard.

Post pics and a range report when it's built, please.
>> No. 90574 ID: 6372b6
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90574
fuck now I want to Ljungman AG-42B all the guns

I hate you people
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>>90571

An SKS is already close to being one, that'd be real easy.

>>90574

Haha, the other half of my crazy world idea was building it in 6.5x55. In my brain it'd be like if a Dragunov and a Ljungmann had crazy sex in a hot tub sauna.
>> No. 90599 ID: 044fd0
>>90574

I had a Hakim for a while. It was nice shooter, but it blasted gas right into your eyes with each shot. full goggles were a necessity.
>> No. 90603 ID: c561cd
>>90599
> but it blasted gas right into your eyes with each shot. full goggles were a necessity.

Designer: My creation is perfect! What do you need to see for?!?
>> No. 90622 ID: 3c5609
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>>90524
>>90527
What do you think this is, a fucking charity?

>>90530
and yes I did in fact trash it, sling included.

I then removed the rear sight assembly with a screwgy
>> No. 90623 ID: 3c5609
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>>90599
>>I had a Hakim for a while. It was nice shooter, but it blasted gas right into your eyes with each shot. full goggles were a necessity.

Just imagine what it would have been like with a suppressor on it.


Sight guts on display. Soon they will be sand blasted.
>> No. 90624 ID: 3c5609
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>>90623
Receiver carcass that will soon be liberated of all of its disgusting parkerizing.
>> No. 90625 ID: 6372b6
>>90622
>and yes I did in fact trash it, sling included.
You know that people would have given you a few bucks for it right

This is a charity on your part, just for a landfill and also the great troll bank of the internet.
>> No. 90638 ID: c3e6b2
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90638
You could be 1/4 into the Garand Table
>> No. 90933 ID: 3c5609
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>>90624
Almost forgot. I have a thread going.

So took out my trusty brass mallet and punch and continued the work of the lord.
>> No. 90934 ID: 3c5609
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>>90638

Ah darn. Too bad I didn't see that sooner, I wouldn't have thrown my stock away and all I would've needed was 3 legs. I reckon I could get 4 M1 Garand stocks and cut them up to make it. Anybody wanna donate some M1 Garand stocks?(preferably serviceable to mint condition)
>> No. 90937 ID: fcf9f8
It will also need a new name for the 21st century. "Garand" is sooo 1935; I propose we call it the M1S "Gavin".
>> No. 90939 ID: adbbc9
>>90934
i know your joking, but i feel sick
>> No. 90940 ID: e6c121
>Using a brass hammer
>To hit a steel punch

Don't want to scratch up that punch!
>> No. 91019 ID: e1463b
>>90940
No smith owns a special hammer for punches. You might have a nice small metal hammer that's nice and heavy for metal moving and shit.
>> No. 91036 ID: de0cbd
  Update M1 Garand to modern time... this NEEDS to be on the new build. Maybe some custom wing guard mount for the RMR?
>> No. 91037 ID: de0cbd
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>>91036
> wing guard mount
>> No. 91042 ID: dda126
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>>91036
>Update M1 Garand to modern time


...by replacing it with a PSL (chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor if possible - the only actual modernization being the superior round. You can't improve and modernize the actual AK action). Garand with RMR is just "old guy with toupée" level of sad.
>> No. 91045 ID: cfe73e
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I thought the M14 was an evolutionary improvement on the M1 Garand.
>> No. 91046 ID: cfe73e
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>> No. 91047 ID: cfe73e
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A further modernization on the 1959 modernization.
>> No. 91048 ID: cfe73e
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Battle of Hamo Village during the Tet Offensive. US Marines and ARVN troops defend a position against enemy attack with their M14 rifles. Photo taken circa January 1968.
>> No. 91049 ID: cfe73e
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Pfc. William Drikell, scans the valley walls for suspicious activity during a combat patrol near the village of Walo Tangi, in Konar province, Afghanistan, April 6, 2009. Driskell is a member of 2nd Platoon, C. Company, 1st Battalion, 26th Infantry Regiment, 1st Infantry Division.
>> No. 91050 ID: dda126
>>91049
>>91047
Should have traded all that rail weight for a better scope. Fucking tacticool gearniggers.
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>>91050
Such as this M14 with a Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 10 x 40 mm M3 scope without illuminated reticle?
A sniper peers through his sight at potential enemy targets moving along the rooftop of a nearby building during a search mission in Al Fallujah, Iraq, 2004. The paratrooper is assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division's 1st Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment.
>> No. 91057 ID: 7d8bca
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91057
That was easy.
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>>91057
>> No. 91059 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91058

I picked up this (probably Chinese made) M1 Garand bayonet for about 20 something bucks. It will make a perfect addition to this project.

Also worth mentioning; I researched the serial numbers on this baby and found out it was manufactured by Springfield in 1943. To think, this baby probably stormed some beaches and fired at Imperial Japs during WWII.

And now its with me... I feel honored to be able to give this fine rifle the treatment it deserves.
>> No. 91064 ID: 52ed6e
>>91059
It it was manufactured in 1943 there's a pretty good chance it didn't see service, actually. My Underwood M1 carbine was manufactured in that same year and it didn't see any service until it was surplussed to Israel after the war was over.
>> No. 91072 ID: 85304d
>>91059
Got the same bayonet. Fit is poor on my garand. Not sure how to unfuck it either.
>> No. 91074 ID: c6cdc3
Is it possible to modify and shoot 308?
>> No. 91080 ID: 963c4b
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91080
>>91074
Yes.
Any Garand modified to load M14 magazines have most probably been modified to chamber .308 (7.62x51mm) instead of .30-06 (7.62x63mm).

- US Springfield M1 Garand .308 semi-auto Tanker or Bobbed type rifle with an 18-inch barrel.
>> No. 91081 ID: 943d55
>>91074
Also the Garand can be rebarreled with a 7.62x51mm NATO barrel. The US Navy rifle team used Garands converted to 7.62x51mm at Camp Perry for years and years.

As .30/06 M2 Ball and 7.62x51mm M80 Ball use different charges of different propellants with rather different burning rates, a Garand in the latter caliber will need its gas port opened up slightly to give positive function.
>> No. 91173 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91059
Behold a coffee can full of parts. I took my bayonet, trigger and magazine area apart then sandblasted all of the inferior parkerize finish off.
>> No. 91174 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91173
After sandblasting, I then doused and scrubbed the parts in acetone for good measure to make sure the surface of the parts clean of debris and oil. Clean parts and work area are VITAL for the Cerakoting process.
>> No. 91176 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91174
The color I'm going with is called Tungsten Grey. It has a gritty metallic look about it and will go really well with the theme of the rifle.
>> No. 91207 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91176
The bayonet color experiment turned out well enough to continue it on the rifle. I used Patriot Brown on the grip and Tungsten Gray on the metal parts.
>> No. 91208 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91207
Turned out pretty well, I would say.
>> No. 91209 ID: 7feea4
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>>91207
>>91208

That's... pretty damn good looking.
>> No. 91265 ID: 45cc6c
>>90456
pretty simple, aluminum instead of steel, reinforced polymer over wood, rails and somehow improve the reliability of the action.

pretty much how every new gun has improved over its design.
>> No. 91267 ID: 6dc7ad
>>91265

>somehow improve the reliability of the action

Well that's the easy part! Just keep it away from Arctic climates and places that have sand.
>> No. 91269 ID: dda126
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>>91267
>somehow improve the reliability of the action

>Well that's the easy part! Just keep it away from Arctic climates and places that have sand.

Doesn't really help as a generic method to make a gun more reliable. Even if you keep your AR in it's natural habitat where it belongs, the western middle class living room, the dust bunnies that are found there will still make the AR jam.

AR fags are the real FUDDS.
>> No. 91270 ID: 6dc7ad
>>91269

It was a joke about the Garand having an exposed action that runs for crap in cold places, but by all means carry on...
>> No. 91272 ID: dda126
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>>91270
I got the reference, thank you very much. Have you never seen an AR freeze shut? Believe me, it has been known to happen too. And that's just from condensation from the air. Shit really hits the AC when you run, shoot, go prone in snow, pick up some snow everywhere, it melts, creeps in everywhere, then you stop shooting for half and hour, then you need to shoot again because hurp durp "CONTACT!" but oh noes, there is icicles in the action!

Pic unrelated, Soviet HIND pilots carrying AKS-74U in holsters as a PDW. I have a webm of modern day pilots doing the same in Syria but the file is too big...
>> No. 91276 ID: 6dc7ad
>>91272

>Have you never seen an AR freeze shut?

I've seen almost every common and uncommon action freeze shut. Around here -20F before windchill is just getting started. ARs are no more or less inherently prone to it than other contemporary actions. They're a little harder to break clear than a FAL or AK. Still beats a Garand in adverse condition reliability any day, which is flawed in that regard by inherent design.
>> No. 91647 ID: c3ae32
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91647
Ha Im back faggits!

Here's the scabbard for the bayonet prior to being sandblasted accordingly.
>> No. 91648 ID: c3ae32
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>>91647
After sandblasting and masking.
>> No. 91781 ID: 14f1bb
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>>91648
The after pic. The scabbard is done and looks much better now after being cerakoted.
>> No. 91782 ID: 14f1bb
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>>91781
>> No. 91799 ID: 7d8bca
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>>91782
After much deliberation, I decided the 30-06 was an inferior bullet compared to the 7.62x51/.308. I did some outsourcing and consulted the expertise of one Tim Shufflin of Shuff's parkerizing.
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