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No. 34442 ID: 8c18eb
  Obscure favorite films.
Fresh (1994) Official Trailer - Samuel L. Jackson Movie HD https://youtu.be/a_9hTnNErbo
Michael, nicknamed Fresh (portrayed by Sean Nelson), is a 12-year-old kid running drugs for gangsters, notably Esteban (Giancarlo Esposito). Inspired by the chess lessons of his father, an alcoholic speed-chess master (Samuel L. Jackson), Fresh devises and executes a brilliant plan to extricate himself and his drug-addicted sister (N'Bushe Wright) from their hopeless lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_(1994_film)

The plan was an intricate frame-up where Fresh incites all the hood gangsters and drug dealer employers around him to kill each other with the last one brilliantly framed and fed to the police.
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>> No. 34445 ID: 19518e
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Not sure how obscure it is, but Primer probably takes my number-fucking-one for more than one category. Definitely the best movie ever made on a budget of like 15k USD.

Yes, it's complicated as hell, maybe a little convoluted, but it actually does make perfect sense and the mechanics employed are never broken.

Watch it, watch it again, watch it some more.
>> No. 34449 ID: 8c18eb
  >>34445
Thanks for this!
An interesting but underrated film was
The Last King of Scotland (2006) https://youtu.be/iV_QgKJFZP0
>> No. 34450 ID: 8c18eb
  Another interesting film set in Africa is Beasts of No Nation https://youtu.be/2xb9Ty-1frw
>> No. 34452 ID: 060ec8
  >>34445
Time travel in Primer explained:
Time Travel in Fiction Rundown https://youtu.be/d3zTfXvYZ9s
>> No. 34460 ID: 3e9aae
  Sorcerer is my favorite Friedkin film. Four desperate men must travel 200 miles through the jungle to deliver leaking TNT to a burning oil well. The prize: enough money to escape their miserable lives.

And arguably, it's debut and box-office failure a month after Star Wars came out marks the end of the period when American film studios were making "smart films" versus puerile blockbusters
>> No. 34461 ID: 3e9aae
  And what is a critically underrated war film, and an anti-war film at that, Sam Peckinpah's Cross of Iron.
>> No. 34462 ID: 278cbe
  >>34461
Incredible quality, I wasn't aware there are people capable of filming such war movies.
>> No. 34463 ID: 19518e
>>34461
Cross of Iron was fucking amazing.
>> No. 34464 ID: e979b1
>>34462
>unarmed Russians leaping headlong into the trenches.
They even thought to include the Shtrafbat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtrafbat
>> No. 34465 ID: 278cbe
  >>34464
It is called "dramatizing", for your general education. Some stories don't need it.
>> No. 34466 ID: 3e9aae
  >>34465
>An investigation by Soviet authorities in 1948, since declassified, revealed that the description of the events was not accurate. Not all the twenty eight were killed — six of the soldiers were still alive. One of them was arrested in 1947 on charges of high treason and confessed to having “voluntarily” surrendered to German troops and later joined a German police force. The findings were kept secret, and the Twenty-Eight Guardsmen were considered national heroes.

>Russian culture minister Vladimir Medinsky praised the planned release of the film, telling the upper chamber of Russia's parliament that the production reflected the country's interest in patriotic films. Referencing criticism over the historical accuracy of the Soviet legend that formed the basis of the movie, he stated that the story is "a sacred legend that shouldn't be interfered with. People that do that are filthy scum."

Another Enemy at the Gates 2 (2013) I see.
>> No. 34467 ID: 278cbe
  >>34466
>NUUU ZE MOVIE IS UNREALISTK
>GERMEN SOLDERS NEVER FIGHT LIKE ZIS
>RUSSIAN PROPEGENDA
Seriously, decades of observing butthurt Europeans convinced me that this sort stupidity is irredeemable and completely incurable. It is an evolutionary stalemate. And I'm not even going to cover American point of view, since usually they are not sure which side they really fought in this war.
>> No. 34468 ID: 278cbe
  Naturally, with great efforts of "winners" of Cold War, every film created east of Berlin since the beginning of times is an obscure one.
>> No. 34469 ID: b86cd3
  >>34467
>abloobloobloo why don't you like this zack snyder snorefest made by a video game company!
>> No. 34470 ID: 278cbe
  >>34469
>why don't you like this zack snyder snorefest
I wonder why. Is it because nobody mentioned The Glorious American Forces? Or maybe it is because Russians aren't portrayed as a horde of drunk barbarians? Or maybe because European pride was hurt in some way? No, I think, the latter excuse is pretty lame.

To be honest, personally I'm not too concerned about the film. I do not go to theaters - hardly there are any films worth my money. I'm not a fan of modern cinematography. Nor I'm a fan of modern portrayal of war in movies and games - the best war movies are the ones that are most anti-war in their nature. But you people... You people are the reason this is necessary.
>> No. 34473 ID: 88ab42
>>34470
Perhaps the reason Russia is not well represented in pop culture is not that people are predjudiced but in fact because Russia itself is not particularly prosperous or influential?
>> No. 34474 ID: 88ab42
I mean seriously; could I reasonably expect Russians to be interested in Burmese or Brazilian war films? Most people are only interested in their own histories. That's just how it is.
You shouldn't expect us to applaud, especially while you try to whitewash the backwards reign of Stalin.
>> No. 34475 ID: 278cbe
>>34474
You know any major Brazilian wars? Any movies about them? Come on, I'm not in position to prevent anyone from fixing this thread by adding more examples.
>> No. 34477 ID: dc8088
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>>34475
I can't find a film on it, but the Araguaia Guerrilla War would be film worthy. A years long dirty war shrouded in military secrecy until recent years, it would make for a chilking thriller or emotional drama.
>> No. 34478 ID: ea2ac5
>>34477
*chilling, rather.

For a more straight forward war epic, the Brazilian revolution offers a lot of musket and saber action. A duel sided look at the year long Siege of Salvador would make for a good flick.
>> No. 34479 ID: 41441c
>>34477
>>34478

There was also a war going on during WWI between the Brazilian government and the followers of some a army deserter posing as a monk who'd started a cult among the yerba mate farmers. Could probably make for a good backdrop to a surrealist film in the vein of Herzog's Aguirre.

Not involving Brazil but in the same theater is the Chaco War:
https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/land-of-the-flies/
>They were wrong, as it turned out. The Chaco seems like one of those parts of the world that’s cursed, or just plain hates people. The more you read about the place the more it seems like a big dry Amityville Horror, a landlocked Bermuda Triangle.
>> No. 34485 ID: 41441c
  Effectively the reason that clandestinefunction is mad about Stalingrad (2013) and that movie about a Soviet propaganda story being criticized is not because they are themselves defending bad films, but because they are defending the system that has produced those films. The message expressed by Come and See, Die Brucke, Johnny Got His Gun, Stalingrad (1993), Cross of Iron, etcetera is that: war is a boy's dream and a man's nightmare. These messages are contrary to the system of Putin's Russia which desires a Ernst Jüngerian depiction of war: defensive war, the nation assailed on all fronts, heroic defenders, valor, the transformative glory of war, etcetera, and must be defended to the utmost because any attack on the films is a attack on the system he is defending.
>> No. 34487 ID: 278cbe
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>>34477
Yet Hollywood would never make such movie because who the fuck cares about Brazil. Can't even make a decent movie about winners of WW2 that aren't Americans wtf.

>>34485
>defending the system
>Putin's Russia
Lol u mad.

>Ernst Jüngerian depiction of war: defensive war, the nation assailed on all fronts, heroic defenders, valor, the transformative glory of war
In the years people filmed and viewed Come and See, there was no need to remind people that it is heroism of defenders, valor and glory of war that saved their country from being murdered in cold blood. The progressive movie like "Come and See" couldn't be filmed in the age before 80-s, because this would bring too much of negative backslash from people who actually lived through such horrors and struggled to stay humane.

On the other hand, modern people (especially in English-speaking countries) completely forget that aspect of war, and only ready to discuss how it is "chaotic", "terrible" and "inhumane". Some of them are also two-faced maniacs who will kill as many people as needed for their vision of peaceful and free world, and they also like to discuss how much better the war could be if only Russia would just crumble and surrender to glorious German forces, White Crusaders, French Republicans, etc, etc. You know, for moral reasons.
>> No. 34488 ID: 278cbe
  >>34487
Now, to save some time by not churning out another wall of text, ranting about hideous nature of capitalism and it's relationship to the war, I'm going straight to the point.

While for average American viewer it might be a long way from commercial type of thinking about war as another Schwarzenegger movie - to actual depiction of horrors of war, it is not the point where one should stop his attention. Even though Come and See is 99% of pure and talented "hyper-realism" war movie, this is not all the truth to it. This is not the ultimate message that work represents to viewer, the ultimate message is obviously the one that is displayed in the end of it. I would formulate it as "it should be possible to go without war altogether".

I don't see this anywhere else. I don't see it here >>34449, there's nothing about it here >>34450, and there's definitely no such thing in >>34469 and >>34462.

Now I open Stalingrad and see it as clear as day with opening and ending scenes of humanitarian mission. I open 28 Panfilov's Men and I see this in the form of monuments standing in the field. I open Brest Fortress and I see scenes of peaceful life before the war. That's an obscurity for you.
>> No. 34489 ID: 415c5a
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>>34487
>>34488
tl;dr:
>"i am eating from the dumpster of ideology non-stop"
>> No. 34491 ID: 19518e
  Welp, this was brutal.
>> No. 34492 ID: df12a0
>>34491
>Vince Vaughn
At least he's using a different voice, than his naturally nasal voice.
>> No. 34493 ID: 3c878c
  >>34491
Interesting film. Worth a watch.
Main character was unusually sober, rational and level-headed for a big skinhead with a giant crucifix tattoo on the back of his head. He'll punch a car (along with prison inmates) to death, though.
He should have just went back to that boat and drove away when those other drug couriers got in that shoot-out with the cops, or, even better, quit drug running when he was ahead. But that would have made a boring movie.
Brawl in Cell Block 99 - Movie Review https://youtu.be/jx71t5RAV0Y
>> No. 34494 ID: 3c878c
  Don Johnson as the warden in Cell Block 99 was interesting to see. Just watched A Boy and His Dog that had a very young Don from 43 years ago.

A Boy And His Dog (1975) Full HD https://youtu.be/CyFC_rFobX8

This film is set in 2024 A.D. and is based on Harlan Ellison's 1969 Nebula Award winning story of the same name. It involves Vic (Don Johnson) and his telepathic dog Blood who work as a team to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland above, with an Orwellian city underground. Directed by L.Q. Jones.


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