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116012 No. 116012 ID: 9723b1 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/devin-nunes-trump-communications/

>House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes set off a stunning new political controversy Wednesday by revealing that communications of President Donald Trump and associates may have been picked up after the election by intelligence agencies conducting surveillance of foreign targets.
>Nunes hurried to the White House to personally brief Trump on the revelations, after talking to the press but without sharing the information with Democrats. His Democratic counterpart on the committee -- Rep. Adam Schiff of California -- warned that his colleague had cast a "profound cloud" over their effort to investigate Russian attempts to interfere in the election.
>A Republican source with knowledge of the situation claimed the information that Nunes talked about was from the intelligence community and not the White House. The source said Nunes was "steaming" about what he read.

>That source said Nunes met with Republican members of the Intelligence Committee before his news conference, and several tried to convince him not to do it before he spoke with Schiff. But Nunes didn't take the advice, with the news conference already called by the time he met with the GOP committee members. Nunes was too mad, the source said.
>The comments by Nunes do not appear to support Trump's claims, debunked by FBI Director James Comey, that he was wiretapped by his predecessor President Barack Obama. Rather, they appear to relate to conversations between Trump or associates and people who were targeted by FISA warrants -- that Nunes said did not appear to be illegal.

>But the President was asked by reporters if he feels vindicated by the visit from Nunes and answered: "I somewhat do. I must tell you I somewhat do, I very much appreciated the fact that they found what they found."
>Another day of shocking drama intensified the intrigue and uncertainty sparked by Trump's feud with intelligence agencies, his accusations of shady practices by his predecessor and the wider question of the Trump campaign's links with Russia that are currently the focus of an investigation by the FBI.
>Nunes told reporters the conversations were "incidentally" collected as part of intelligence sweeps focusing on other people and implied that Trump was not the target of the surveillance operation.
>He said he discovered accounts of conversations related to Trump and his associates when he was reviewing intelligence repo
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>> No. 116018 ID: ea8f9f
>Also at that hearing, Comey said he had seen no evidence so far of the specific allegation of wiretapping Trump Tower.
I.e., no evidence that he was right.

>Nunes at his news conference said he did not know whether the "incidental collection" happened at Trump Tower
That wouldn't be very incidental.
>> No. 116025 ID: d4c8ee
>>116018
9723b1 seems to think that Turnip and his cronies getting caught by other intelligence gathering operations (ie, Flynn getting caught because the FBI monitors the communications of foreign diplomats and he was stupid enough to call up the Russian ambassador and violate the Logan act) is actually the same as whatever fucking conspiracy theories RT is cooking up and the orange idiot is repeating.
>> No. 116610 ID: 703aaf
you tell em comrade comradovitch


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115585 No. 115585 ID: 7f4c08 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
>but they're going to defend gun rights for sure, just look at what they've done for us so far, right guys?

Since the election of President Trump, Republican lawmakers in at least 18 states have introduced or voted on legislation to curb mass protests in what civil liberties experts are calling “an attack on protest rights throughout the states.”

From Virginia to Washington state, legislators have introduced bills that would increase punishments for blocking highways, ban the use of masks during protests, indemnify drivers who strike protesters with their cars and, in at least once case, seize the assets of people involved in protests that later turn violent. The proposals come after a string of mass protest movements in the past few years, covering everything from police shootings of unarmed black men to the Dakota Access Pipeline to the inauguration of Trump.

Some are introducing bills because they say they're necessary to counter the actions of “paid” or “professional” protesters who set out to intimidate or disrupt, a common accusation that experts agree is largely overstated. “You now have a situation where you have full-time, quasi-professional agent-provocateurs that attempt to create public disorder,” said Republican state senator John Kavanagh of Arizona in support of a measure there that would bring racketeering charges against some protesters.

Others, like the sponsors of a bill in Minnesota, say the measures are necessary to protect public safety on highways. Still other bills, in states like Oklahoma and South Dakota, are intended to discourage protesting related to oil pipelines.

Democrats in many of these states are fighting the legislation. They cite existing laws that already make it a crime to block traffic, the possibility of a chilling effect on protests across the political spectrum, and concerns for protesters’ safety in the face of aggressive motorists.

None of the proposed legislation has yet been passed into law, and several bills have already been shelved in committee.

Critics doubt whether many of the laws would pass Constitutional muster. “The Supreme Court has gone out of its way on multiple occasions to point out that streets, sidewalks and public parks are places where [First Amendment] protections are at their most robust,” said Lee Rowland, a senior attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union.
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>> No. 115599 ID: 9723b1
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>>115593
>>115594
>two liberal cpac attendees
>distribute russian flags
>to four liberal cpac atendees
>ask them to wave it around
>take a low angle photo
>pretend the entire conference waved russian flags
>TEE HEE
>#RESISTTRUMP
Unfuck yourself.
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>>115599
>> No. 115605 ID: 791f24
>polandballs with bodies

reported for blasphemy, nice dubs tho
>> No. 115638 ID: 9723b1
>>115600
>That post has been cleared as not requiring any deletion.
>insult without context
>low content reply (ie shitpost)
>reaction image without text
All of these are banworthy.

>Personal Attacks are now banworthy, it is fine to disagree with the content of a post, but ad homs and tripfights will now be met with bans and post deletions, regardless of the rest of the content of the post. So watch yourselves.
>> No. 116609 ID: 703aaf
>>115638
thank you for pointing that out, comrade comradovitch


No. 115278 ID: 389026 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
  >USS Antietam guided-missile cruiser runs aground, leaks oil
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/uss-antietam-damaged-japan/
Is this true? its on CNN, but Fox isn't reporting it and the only thing I found on
Breitbart was old news about the Russian navy
>> No. 115281 ID: 9723b1
Ships run aground or hit things all the time, especially warships which don't stick to carefully planned trade routes. This nonsense is used all the time to paint the country that it happens to as in competent, but the fact of the matter is that the ocean is not perfectly safe. This type of article was useless in the cold war when we and the soviets used it to shit on each other, and it's useless no
>> No. 116608 ID: 703aaf
>>115281
thank you comrade comradovitch


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116562 No. 116562 ID: aadd02 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/05/22/kremlin-sen-john-mccain-has-maniacal-hatred-towards-our-country/102008128/

Sen. John McCain went "way over the line of decency" of decency in his recent attacks on Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, a Kremlin spokesman said Monday.

McCain, R-Ariz., has not minced words in his condemnation of President Donald Trump's May 10 Oval Office meeting with Lavrov and Sergey Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States.

"I do not believe that Mr. Lavrov should be allowed in the Oval Office, and I think it's pretty obvious they turned it into their propaganda advantage," McCain last week told The Arizona Republic.

In a subsequent appearance on "Fox News Sunday," McCain ridiculed Lavrov as "stooge of a thug and a murderer," Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Dmitry Peskov, Putin's spokesman, said McCain is known for his "maniacal hatred towards our country," but suggested the Kremlin will ignore his remarks, according to a report from Russian news agency TASS.
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>> No. 116598 ID: ac7600
>>116586
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-saudi-meeting-idUSKBN18Q0S4
>Russian President Vladimir Putin poured praise on Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who looks after the kingdom's defence and energy, as he welcomed the possible future king in the Kremlin.
>> No. 116599 ID: 334c17
>>116586 >>116598
>when you are so useless of an ally that your best regional partner has to cooperate with your major competitor
>> No. 116600 ID: b430d1
>>116586
>>116599
and here we see the classic russian "x is bad" *x cozies up to russia* "X IS EXTREMELY GOOD HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE IT! RACIST! FASCIST!"
>> No. 116601 ID: 334c17
>>116600
>and here we see the classic case of shitposter who is so triggered just by ID that he forgets to read the rest of the message

(Rule 2)
>> No. 116603 ID: 8001f4
  >>116601
>(Rule 2)
Did I just harm somebody's feelings? Really it is a shame what the site has become.

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(Ban evasion)


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116469 No. 116469 ID: b70387 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
"hon hon hon, not today putin"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/07/emmanuel-macron-wins-french-presidency-marine-le-pen
>The pro-EU centrist Emmanuel Macron has won the French presidency in a decisive victory over the far-right Front National leader, Marine Le Pen, and vowed to unite a divided and fractured France.

>Macron, 39, a former economy minister who ran as a “neither left nor right” independent promising to shake up the French political system, took 65.1% to Le Pen’s 34.9%, according to initial projections from early counts.

>His victory was hailed by his supporters as holding back a tide of populism after the Brexit vote and Donald Trump’s victory in the US election.

>In a solemn first speech from his campaign headquarters, he vowed to “defend France and Europe”. He promised to “unite” a divided and fractured France that had led people to vote for “extremes”. He said that he would “fight with all my strength against the division that undermines and destroys us”.

>He promised to “guarantee the unity of the nation” and “fight against all forms of inequality and discrimination”.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/06/did-macron-outsmart-campaign-hackers
>Meanwhile, Wikileaks jumped on the document dump, but didn’t seem to be familiar with the material in it. Responding to the Macron statement that some of the items were bogus, Wikileaks tweeted, “We have not yet discovered fakes in #MacronLeaks & we are very skeptical that the Macron campaign is faster than us.”

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>> No. 116506 ID: 9e2ca9
>>116505
>So yeah, a measure of success is amount of people you lost to your enemies.

Casualties are proportional to the rate of combat operations, you fight more, you lose more men. By your logic the Red Army failed because they were losing tens or hundreds of thousands of men in major combat operations. You're basically using wheraboo "NAZIS WERE SO GREAT THEY KILLED 100 FOR EACH MAN LOST!" logic.
>> No. 116507 ID: a39cc9
>>116506
I'm being sarcastic, obviously.
>> No. 116592 ID: b17535
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/moment-of-truth-emmanuel-macron-says-of-donald-trump-handshake-20170528-gwf48v.html
>French President Emmanuel Macron says his now famous white-knuckle handshake showdown with US counterpart Donald Trump was "a moment of truth" — designed to show that he's no pushover.

>Macron told a Sunday newspaper in France that "my handshake with him, it wasn't innocent."

>Macron added: "One must show that you won't make small concessions, even symbolic ones, but also not over-publicise things, either."

>Macron's office confirmed to The Associated Press the veracity of the president's comments in Le Journal du Dimanche.

>There was the power play, too, with Trump when during the war of handshakes Macron spoke at some length to the US president in French with no translator.

>Macron then spoke English with Theresa May, offering cooperation in light of the UK terror attack.
>> No. 116596 ID: 649f2c
>>116592
well he just defeated a putin backed candidate and then he was facing off against another on in trump, you can't expect him to be friendly.
macron has a tremendous opportunity now to seize power now that america has fled the western alliance. europe will be in command of it's own destiny for the first time in almost a century while america is lead by a government weak, incompetent, confused government that doesn't have much public support. he probably realized he had the upper hand in that engagement and felt pretty good about it.
now hes bragging about it too.
>> No. 116597 ID: d4c8ee
>>116596
And what gives it a good dose of irony is that back in November he said he was open to working with Russia and overall had a neutral attitude towards Russia, but now he's pissed off at them for fucking with him.

>he had the upper hand in that engagement and felt pretty good about it.

That and I think most foreign politicians are starting to realize Trump is a easily manipulated idiot.


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116479 No. 116479 ID: aadd02 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/07/epa-dismisses-half-of-its-scientific-advisers-on-key-board-citing-clean-break-with-obama-administration/

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt has chosen to replace half of the members on one of its key scientific review boards, the first step in a broader effort by Republicans to change the way the agency evaluates the scientific basis for its regulations.

The move could significantly change the makeup of the 18-member Board of Scientific Counselors, which advises EPA’s key scientific arm on whether the research it does has sufficient rigor and integrity. All of the members being dismissed were at the end of serving at least one three-year term, although these terms are often renewed instead of terminated.
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>> No. 116525 ID: 6e292d
>>116523
Would putting in another rail line really cost that much?
>> No. 116547 ID: 56a253
>>116523

I see. I thought it was some environmental protest, but I admit to not following it very well.

I'd think funding a new branch line to get around the city would be cheaper than cleaning up one Superfund-type disaster after another. Nuclear waste isn't that big of a deal since we aren't cooking up bomb plutonium anymore and dealing with all the thousands of gallons of horrifying goop that process produces, but we still need some place for spent fuel rods and shit in the long term.
>> No. 116548 ID: 649f2c
>>116547
nuclear energy in it's half century+ of life has yet to produce energy economically. that sector of of the engery industry should stop wasting tax money on their endless subsidies and finally sink or swim on their own merits as so many other sectors of the energy industry do. when that happens we will find out that they're not the valuable strategic resource they claim to be, but a 50 year old burdensome baby that can't support itself and is constantly crying for more resources.
we should just chalk it up to the jewish physisics which constantly perplexes the white man. more simple things like fossil fuels and renewables cost 40% of what nuclear does & those are mostly unsubsidized sectors of the energy industry.
>> No. 116550 ID: 334c17
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>>116548
>wasteing trillions of donations on "renewable sources" like solar and wind farms, cow farts and crop burning (aka "biofuel")
>complain about nuclear power being overpriced by government
>expecting that safety wouldn't be the fist victim of cost reduction
Yes please, I can't wait for more nuclear disasters happening.

Seriously though, biofuel is even worse then that in the idea itself. All modern agriculture requires fossil fuels to efficiently grow crops (for irrigation, planting, harvest, and reprocessing), and investing in all sorts of bio stuff (except tiny fraction of waste by-products) effectively means burning more fuel to burn more fuel. Which is a normal practice for "civilized world".
>> No. 116551 ID: b430d1
>>116550
>fake news

ok dude


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116527 No. 116527 ID: d5e538 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/16/ralph-peters-blind-loyalty-is-un-american.html

Ensnared by party politics, we are forgetting our country. Instead of devoting our loyalties to the Constitution—that sturdy enabler of human aspirations—Republicans and Democrats alike close their eyes to lawlessness, excusing even outright criminality if one of their party’s leaders stands accused.

Buoyed by a strong economy, Democrats brushed off President Clinton’s degradation of the presidency. Republicans ignored the waste and fraud that ravaged the foreign endeavors of the second President Bush. Democrats cheered the imperious use of executive orders by President Obama and resolutely shut their eyes to Hillary Clinton’s murderous duplicity (have we all forgotten Benghazi?)

Now Republicans, who long claimed to be the Constitution’s defenders and champions of national security, shrug off Russian penetration of our political system and justify the reckless use (following Obama’s precedent) of executive orders by their president—whose behavior would excite outrage if the fingers on the keypad belonged to a Democrat.

And a flatulent Congress cringes and points at the other guy.

Both parties have failed us. We have not had a serious, competent president since George H. W. Bush left office. That’s a quarter-century of mediocrity, intermittent malfeasance, diminished security, destructive pandering to interest groups and resultant social calamity.

It’s fine to take strong positions and to rally to politicians who promise to pursue the legislation and policies we think best. But it’s fatal to place any single man or woman above the Constitution.

Yet, we have survived. The instruments of government bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers have proven so robust and well-considered, so far-sighted and attuned to human foibles, that our system has outlasted countless charlatans, demagogues, ideologues, thieves-in-office, pestiferous lobbyists and the legions of other Washington parasites who—unlike the hardworking bureaucrats they condemn—feed off our government while contributing nothing.
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>> No. 116538 ID: b70387
This is an opinion piece, which does not necessarily represent the views of the larger Fox News organization.

Additionally, would it have killed you to clear out the quote box, image caption, and related links?
>> No. 116539 ID: d52e21
Since the firing of Roger Ailes last year for sexual harassment, the Murdochs have basically been purging the company of the old hardliners. O'Rilley got the knife, then co-president Bill Shine resigned this month. They're using the ongoing sexual harassment/harassment lawsuits against the company to clean house.


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116430 No. 116430 ID: 31b88a hide watch quickreply [Reply]
About two months before Stephen McDaniel killed and dismembered his neighbor, he typed the Google search phrase “nude ‘lauren giddings’”.

McDaniel’s Internet history, which The Telegraph obtained, shows that he visited the feed from Giddings’ Twitter account about a minute after searching for nude photos of her April 28, 2011.

That same morning, he also conducted three back-to-back searches with variations of the phrase “molest sleeping girl.”

McDaniel’s Internet browsing history from April through June 30, 2011, the day Giddings’ dismembered torso was found, points to an obsession with his neighbor.

He also spent several hours visiting pornography and dating sites, viewing advertisements for escorts on macon.backpage.com, reading erotic fiction and searching for nude photos of celebrities.

He read local and national news, watched movies and wrote posts on the Operator Chan website using the screen name “SoL.”

McDaniel, 28, also viewed web pages about guns and sex toys.

On June 30, 2011, about four hours before Giddings’ torso was discovered, McDaniel researched how to erase his browsing history.
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So if he'd used Duckduckgo or browsed via proxy then he'd be a free man right now?
>> No. 116436 ID: ab8f24
Who the fuck even cares anymore? Is it the low effort HURP DURP YOU GUYZ DEFENDED him troll again? Find some new material bud, what you've got is old and boring.
>> No. 116437 ID: 9dc901
This is the news section. This isn't news.
>> No. 116440 ID: ebb4ba
>>116436
be less obvious, ST
we still remember you defending a murderer after he confessed and accusing the PD of planting cp in his home
>> No. 116519 ID: 4308b7
This Iordan Bossev is the SoL of a different chan. CP isn't all he did
http://www.wafb.com/story/34309816/three-men-indicted-on-child-pornography-charges

If that isn't enough amusement for you then look up Tzif from uboachan. These folks are equally amusing heroes of SoL's caliber. The "i kill my gf on /b/" guy is going to trial in Seattle soon too & chris will be taking some days off from his current job sucking jewish cocks at google to testify.


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114178 No. 114178 ID: 22c903 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/97336168

The constitution is safe. Our country will have a border wall to keep the filthy drug mules and their shitty welfare sucking criminal anchor offspring out. We will defund bullshit special interests. Purge the Marxism from the colleges, break up the (possibly pedophilic) democrat mafia squatting in DC, restore journalistic ethics to our press and become a non-service based economy again. Small businesses and innovation will boom in the next four years. The truth will ring long, sharp and free.

A golden age is before us folks.

NEVER COME DOWN
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>> No. 116509 ID: d4c8ee
FBI acting director McCabe contradicts White House statements.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/live-briefing-james-comey-andrew-mccabe.html
>“Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the F.B.I. and still does to this day,” Mr. McCabe said at the hearing.

>“The vast majority of F.B.I. employees enjoyed a deep and positive connection to Director Comey,” he added.

>Mr. McCabe also said that the Justice Department’s investigation into whether any Trump associates colluded with Russia in the presidential election was “highly significant,” another direct contradiction of the White House.

>A day earlier, a spokeswoman for Mr. Trump, trying to parry accusations that Mr. Comey’s firing was related to the Russia inquiry, called it “probably one of the smallest things that they’ve got going on their plate” at the F.B.I.

Trump admits reason for firing Comey was a lie.
https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/15625548/trump-comey-lie-sessions
>On Tuesday, President Trump said he fired FBI Director James Comey “based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.”

>On Thursday, Trump told NBC’s Lester Holt that “regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey.”
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>> No. 116510 ID: d4c8ee
>>116508
One thing that's interesting is that none of the official press releases, readout or schedules mention that Kyslak, a active FSB officer, attended, and that he has been cropped out of all the photos released by the WH.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-releases-photos-of-trump-meeting-russia-foreign-minister-lavrov-but-not-ambassador-kislyak/article/2622844
>> No. 116511 ID: aadd02
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/12/trump-suggests-there-may-be-tapes-of-his-private-conversations-with-former-fbi-director/?utm_term=.1c51b21c0cb4

President Trump suggested Friday that there may be “tapes” of his private conversations with FBI Director James B. Comey, whom he fired earlier this week, in an apparent attempt to threaten Comey about “leaking to the press.”

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 12, 2017

In his tweet, Trump appears to suggest that he may have recordings of his communications with Comey. It is unclear if such tapes exist, however.

White House spokespeople did not immediately respond to questions about whether Trump had in fact taped his conversations with Comey.

Trump put the word tapes in quotation marks, indicating that perhaps there may be a record of some kind if not an actual audio or video recording.
>> No. 116513 ID: a8529b
>>116511
Apparently he also tried to make Comey swear loyalty to him.
>what would happen if I demanded your loyalty?
>i would be extremely honest

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html
>As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies. The president then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.

>Mr. Comey declined to make that pledge. Instead, Mr. Comey has recounted to others, he told Mr. Trump that he would always be honest with him, but that he was not “reliable” in the conventional political sense.

Now before somebody goes "BUT HE'S THE PRESIDENT" I'll direct them to this article by a USAF pilot about integrity vs loyalty:
http://code7700.com/1993_integrity.htm
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>>116513

I got Gorsuch on the SCOTUS. I expected little else from Trump.

He will be fighting the Bush/McCain faction of the republican party as well as the democrats for the next four years


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116459 No. 116459 ID: b70387 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/anti-vaccine-activists-spark-a-states-worst-measles-outbreak-in-decades/2017/05/04/a1fac952-2f39-11e7-9dec-764dc781686f_story.html

The young mother started getting advice early on from friends in the close-knit Somali immigrant community here. Don’t let your children get the vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella — it causes autism, they said.

Suaado Salah listened. And this spring, her 3-year-old boy and 18-month-old girl contracted measles in Minnesota’s largest outbreak of the highly infectious and potentially deadly disease in nearly three decades. Her daughter, who had a rash, high fever and cough, was hospitalized for four nights and needed intravenous fluids and oxygen.

“I thought: ‘I’m in America. I thought I’m in a safe place and my kids will never get sick in that disease,’ ” said Salah, 26, who has lived in Minnesota for more than a decade. Growing up in Somalia, she’d had measles as a child. A sister died of the disease at age 3.

Salah no longer believes that the MMR vaccine triggers autism, a discredited theory that spread rapidly through the local Somali community, fanned by meetings organized by anti-vaccine groups. The activists repeatedly invited Andrew Wakefield, the founder of the modern anti-vaccine movement, to talk to worried parents.

Immunization rates plummeted, and last month the first cases of measles appeared. Soon there was a full-blown outbreak, one of the starkest consequences of an intensifying anti-vaccine movement in the United States and around the world that has gained traction in part by targeting specific communities.

“It’s remarkable to come in and talk to a population that’s vulnerable and marginalized and who doesn’t necessarily have the capacity for advocacy for themselves, and to take advantage of that,” said Siman Nuurali, a Somali American clinician who coordinates the care of medically complex patients at Children’s Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota. “It’s abhorrent.”

Although extensive research has disproved any relationship between vaccines and autism, the fear has become entrenched in the community. “I don’t know if we will be able to dig out on our own,” Nuurali said.
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>> No. 116460 ID: b70387
The 23-month-old was on an IV for fluids and had repeatedly pulled out the oxygen tube in her nose. Her older brother, almost 4, endured a milder bout. Neither had received the MMR vaccine.

The children now have antibodies to protect against measles, but they still need the vaccine to prevent mumps and rubella. Their father, who is 33 and studying mechanical engineering while working as a mechanic, wants to wait. His worry: autism. A colleague has a son “who is mute.”

“I would hold off until she’s 3 . . . or until she fluently starts talking,” he said.

His wife no longer harbors doubts, however. As soon as both children are well, she said, “they are going to get the shot.”

The pervasive mistrust was evident Sunday night during a meeting, sponsored by several anti-vaccine groups, that drew a mostly Somali crowd of 90 to a Somali-owned restaurant here. Patti Carroll, a member of the Vaccine Safety Council of Minnesota, described its goal as giving parents more information, including about their right to refuse to vaccinate. People have been “bullied big-time” by doctors and public health officials, she said.

The presentation by anti-vaccine activist Mark Blaxill drew cheers and applause. Blaxill, a Boston businessman whose adult daughter has autism, played down the threat of measles and played up local autism rates.

“When you hear people from the state public health department saying there is no risk, that [vaccines] are safe, this is the sort of thing that should cause you to be skeptical,” Blaxill said.

Two pediatricians in the audience stepped up to a microphone to denounce the claims.
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>> No. 116461 ID: 821a29
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You delete my posts, I die, I post again.
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>flithy stupid nigger immigrants cause disease epidemic

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>> No. 116466 ID: 6292be
>>116465
>I'm white and thus I'm protected from misinformation campaigns and depopulation programs
Way to go, pal.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/us/measles-minnesota-vaccines.html
>The Post reported that one of the anti-vaccine movement’s founders, Andrew Wakefield, was among those who had met with the parents. Asked if he felt at fault for the outbreak, he replied: “I don’t feel responsible at all,” according to The Post.


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