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101495 No. 101495 ID: cb5ffa hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
>She calls for the collapse of the EU and talks about nationalising banks. She sees the US as a purveyor of dangerous policies and Russia as a more suitable friend. She wants to bring an end to immigration and believes the republic is under Islamist assault.

>Radical as Marine Le Pen’s vision for France may be, the prospect of her National Front (FN) policies becoming reality is no longer pure fantasy.

>Two months after the terrorist attacks on Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical magazine and a Jewish supermarket in Paris, the far-right party has cemented its standing as the most dynamic political force in a frightened and frustrated country; its 46-year-old leader now regarded as a possible winner of the presidency in 2017. Polls place the FN ahead of the centre-right UMP and ruling Socialist parties in the first round of this month’s local elections, with one giving it about 33 per cent of the vote.

>Much of the credit for the FN’s political momentum goes to Ms Le Pen’s deliberate efforts to enlarge her base since taking over the party in 2011, but also to the malaise afflicting a France in which the economy has stagnated for the past three years while unemployment has risen above 10 per cent.

>In a small office in a nondescript modern building in the Paris suburb of Nanterre, the fast-talking Ms Le Pen comes across as a single-minded politician, at ease with every subject while glossing over challenges or contradictions in her policies. “I’m not here to run a boutique. I’m here to reach power and to return it to the French people,” she says. “That’s my role.” Constantly in motion, and seemingly in a rush, she tends to sit on the edge of her seat, fiddles with her pen, combs her fingers through her blond hair or inhales on her electronic cigarette.

>She sneers when asked to judge the government’s plan to tackle homegrown jihadism, rattling off her own list of hardline measures, including a zero-tolerance policy towards attacks on French secularism, enforcement of French-speaking preachers in mosques and stripping dual-nationality jihadis who fight abroad of their French citizenship. Going further, Ms Le Pen also wants a radical overhaul of French foreign policy in which relations with the regime of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad would be restored and those with the likes of Qatar and Turkey, which she alleges support terrorism, reviewed.
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>> No. 101516 ID: 90a126
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>It's really foolish to presume people you disagree with must be stupid.

Well thats the American way. That or thinking the other side in intractable, complete monsters, or completely diagrammatically opposed in every way until there is no common ground.

Hence why we have such vitriol when it comes to political discussion, you yourself is told to git out for daring to have differing opinions by some, and we no longer see political opposites as people that just hold differing opinion but otherwise decent people but the Enemy that one can never consort with.

The view that the insane blatherers of insanity are stupid is a common thing. The belief that no intelligent person could hold such radical views is understandable, one wishes to think intelligent people would hold more rational and ground views, however this is sadly a mistaken belief.

Intelligent people have far more brain power then stupid people to twist and spindle ideas and events to fit their internal logic. They will use their intellect to make better arguments, ones that sound considerably less insane or stupid then their actual stupid counterparts.

Usually such foolish fools will only sound stupid to appeal to stupid ass anti-intellectual "everymen" who see intelligence and edumacation as a bad thing. Using people, sometimes against their own interests.

I'm sure one could write a whole article about how rich ass Republicans get poor people to vote against their interests and to get tax breaks only for the rich or how Demorats get minorities to keep voting for rich white people who have little interest in helping them out.

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>> No. 101518 ID: 81be18
>Ms Le Pen’s deliberate efforts to enlarge her base since taking over the party in 2011

Ah, the political equivalent of, "we want the xbox audience."

She may be the most based leader in France right now, but I still fear that she will have to make too many concessions to the left in order to take power. Though, perhaps, even a compromised nationalist party may be better than nothing at all.
>> No. 101520 ID: f013be
The French have a habit for choosing leaders that are more competent than the Western average, in fact since WWII they've only chosen two really bad presidents - Mitterand and Hollande
Both of these bad presidents arrived to power suspiciously and both are dyed in the wool socialists

Le Pen first gained power as a DIRECT result of Mitterand causing all kinds of bullshit and recently she's gaining power because of Hollande
There are weird electoral issues (losing by 100 votes, antifa ruining rallys etc) cropping up but they're barely keeping her down because her base is strong

What Le Pen is saying is exactly what de Gaulle would have said in the same situation
>> No. 101522 ID: 475dc9
You can blame the last decade of horrendous US foreign policy for the rising anti NATO and EU sentiment that is growing in Europe at the moment. Russia is a huge trade partner for Western Europe, they have a huge need for energy (except France, nuclear power ftw) which Russia provides and Russia has a need for the technological manufacturing and research bases Western Europe has. Add this in with the dormant economy of Europe and you can see why a lot of European countries don't like the sanctions put on Russia by the EU.

Funnily enough, FN is making strides currently in the French Jewish communities. They know its the EU immigration policies that are bringing a bunch of jihadi joes in and not every Jew is too keen on following Bibi's brilliant advice on moving to an area surrounded by muslim countries to escape anti semitism.

In reality the only thing that is radical about the FN is that it wants to get closer to Russia and leave the EU and NATO. Theyre still very socialist and their idea of French nationalism is civic, not ethnic. Its more in line with Mangin's idea that it doesnt matter what your ethnicity us, as long as you value French culture and ideals you should be treated the same as any citizen. Its EU immigration policies that completely circumvent national immigration policies that annoys them. Besides Europeans love their welfare states and even FN's idea of limiting benefits only to citizens who live in France for over two months is considered radical. For comparison, iirc American immigrants can apply for benefits only if they lived here for 10 years.
>> No. 101526 ID: 626b5e
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>The French have a habit for choosing leaders that are more competent than the Western average

Ahem, Monsieur Deschanel would like to have a word with you, after he's done falling off a train high on pills and running around in his underpants.

Granted, it was in the post-great war, pre-greater war period... but still.

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101474 No. 101474 ID: 48be05 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]

>Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) has reintroduced legislation to do away with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

>Sensenbrenner, a senior Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said the policies under ATF's jurisdiction could be easily incorporated into other agencies. Moreover, he argued, the ATF has become embroiled in too many controversies in recent years, like the botched "Fast and Furious" gun-tracking operation.

>"The ATF is a scandal-ridden, largely duplicative agency that lacks a clear mission. Its 'Framework' is an affront to the Second Amendment and yet another reason why Congress should pass the ATF Elimination Act," Sensenbrenner said in a statement.
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>> No. 101490 ID: bde470
>Abolish the ATF
Could happen
>eliminate 90% of their mission
Exceptionally unlikely but possible
>bar any GS-13+ who has ever worked for the ATF from Federal Employment.
Will not happen in a million years. Do not even get your hopes up. If the ATF gets trashed, all the scumbags will just make themselves a home in whatever agency picks up their responsibilities and funding and nothing will change.

>>trusting GOP
Also this. I Shiggitydiggitydo
>> No. 101491 ID: f9a97c
Nothing will come of this.

At best we'd get a half-decade reprieve from the normal stream of ATF bullshit "findings/rulings", as the usual shitbirds refeather their nests in whatever bureau they'd be transferred into.

The scope and depth of investigation needed to really expose and dismember the ATF will never occur, as it would expose the whole of the DOJ, and far too many previous administrations to more scrutiny than anyone in government would be willing to endure.
>> No. 101492 ID: 626b5e

Folding them in under the IRS would probably work. It would probably also work out in our favor. The IRS is by nature an entity that exists to bring in the $$$. You can't get money from ATFE stuff without getting it out to the people so they can pay you for it.

Tax stamp turn around times would likely be slashed to a fraction so they can cash those delicious checks.
>> No. 101501 ID: 90a126
Pretty much as others have said, kicking out the ATF would just mean the agency itself is gone. Its powers and corruption would not be.

The Femal Body Inspectors or IaRSe would probably take over for the ATF. So now we have even more powerful agencies to fight against, agencies that are either considered useful and cool (because Scully's tits) or hated but known to be needed by most people except Ron Paul.

Going against the ATF isn't easy either but considering its funding is far less then the FBI or IRS and the organization is well hated by everyone but Janet Reno and fucking Eric Holder its far easier now then it would be with its power consolidated in another agency or even worse just spread around to multiple agencies.

They don't need to dismember it. They, like with regular law enforcement, need a non-partition civilian oversight board comprised over people with no connection to the agency to work to clean the agency out.

But that will happen about the same time Republican start publicly supporting Obama and Donald Trump and Rosie O'Donnell decide they can no longer keep up the charade and marry each other.
>> No. 101504 ID: 7b177d

None of this will happen, it's all a pipe dream. I'm just day dreaming about ruining the careers of those that capitulate.

Oh by the way, the M855 ban commenting period was a farce. The 2014 ATF Regulation Guide published in January already removed the exemption, in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act. Nothing will come of it, we'll all sit back and they'll do whatever they want without consequence.

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101391 No. 101391 ID: eaa104 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
>More than four million dollars in gold bars was stolen from an 18-wheeler pulled over on the side of Interstate 95.

>The Wilson County Sheriff's Office says a truck hauling a shipment of gold and silver from Miami to Attleboro, Massachusetts Sunday night broke down on I-95 in Wilson County around 6:45 p.m.

>The two armed security guards with Transvalue Inc. said they had mechanical problems and pulled over near mile marker 114. A white van pulled over, too, and three armed men ordered the truck security guards to get down on the ground.

>Deputies say the criminals tied the victim's hands behind their backs and made them walk into the woods. The crooks then drove off with several barrels of gold from the Transvalue truck, worth more than $4 million.

>WITN News has learned the truck was an 18-wheeler, and the locks on the back doors appeared to have been cut or sawed off. The big rig is all white, expect for having the company's logo on the sides of the cab.

>Transvalue, which is a Miami-based company that transports valuables, says none of their employees were hurt. A spokesperson said he wasn't at liberty to say whether their trucks have surveillance cameras on board or not.

>The company says a $50,000 reward is being offered. The bars weighed about 275 pounds.

>Transvalue says the truck carrying the loot left Miami around 4:00 a.m. Sunday.
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>> No. 101457 ID: 3f068e
I would agree with it being an inside job...my family used to work in the jewelry industry. My father had a small store in the PNW...we ( i was about 10 - 11 ) went to the airport to pick up a shipment of stones. We stopped to get drop off a rental vhs , and in the process...thieves came smashed the car windows and grabbed the bags.There was/is no way anyone would have known about the shipment outside of someone from the company.

Shit sucked man.
>> No. 101458 ID: eaa104
>We're plotting a robbery, not an action movie. :V

But... but... what is the point of being a criminal, then, if you don't get to shoot and blow up stuff downtown?
>> No. 101493 ID: 5b9651

you'd have to be a big guy.
>> No. 101494 ID: 885afe
for you.
>> No. 101500 ID: 626b5e


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101413 No. 101413 ID: bd8b88 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) took the top spot for the third year in a row at Saturday’s Conservative Political Action Conference straw poll, edging out Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.) as the favorite in the last CPAC presidential preference contest before primary voting begins.

Paul had been the prohibitive favorite heading into this year’s balloting, which featured 17 candidates. More than 3,000 attendees voted, a 20 percent increase over 2014's turnout.

Hundreds of Paul fans had streamed in from across the country for the multi-day event in National Harbor, Md -- but his percentage of the vote actually dropped, to 25.7 percent, from 31 percent in 2014. Former Florida governor Jeb Bush (R) had made a major effort, sponsoring buses that brought supporters in from Washington, D.C. to Maryland and paying entry fees for some supporters – a push that brought him a fifth-place showing. Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.), who drew a significant level of grassroots excitement at the conference with a strong performance in his Friday address, drew 21.4 percent of the vote, dramatically and improving on his fifth place showing last year. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who finished second to Paul in 2014, drew 11.5 percent of the vote, roughly the same as he had in 2014.

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who boasted a swell of grassroots support at CPAC, came in fourth place. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie came in 10th place, with 2.8 percent of the vote.

Organizers said the results showed "how fluid and open the race is."

A candidate’s popularity with the Conservative Political Action Conference hasn’t necessarily been a great predictor of his or her success with the larger GOP electorate, as attendees tend to have a stronger libertarian bent than the Republican majority. The Kentucky senator had won the CPAC straw poll in 2013 and 2014, and his father former Texas congressman Ron Paul won in 2010 and 2011. Mitt Romney won in 2012.

But that isn’t really the point of CPAC anyway.

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>> No. 101452 ID: 90a126
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We should do that in the US. Maybe Shaq would be President. I'd trust Shaq more then Randy and Hitlery or that fatass from Jersey (not Snooki, the other one) even after Kazam and Shaq-Fu.

I really dread this upcoming election. The last few elections have been clusterfucks of epic proportions but atleast with most realistic candidates I could find a few things I like or agree with. Obungler throw a bone to the much put under buses gaymosexuals and he is far too much of a spineless wimp to do anything meaningful anti-gun (watch me eat those words when he rams through a shit-ton of anti-gun measures as his last term ends).

Romney was a whore who would do whatever people paid him to do, and the NRA has quite a financial warchest, while being a greedy fuck to the point I doubt his presidency would be anything more then him trying to make himself more money. Bad but not as terrible as some idiots who actually give a damn about being president beyond the prestige that brings.

McCain used to be a pretty level headed cool guy but I think kinda went insane after losing against Bush. But can still pick hot MILFs .

Cheney was pure evil but still willing to support gay rights when his daughter turned out to be a carpet muncher and I respect that. Oh wait, Cheney wasn't President.

Okay with Bush he was atleast likable in a stupid kind of way. Plus he was pretty pro-gun.

Randy, he just seems like a total whore who unfortunately inherited his daddies political zeal. He might be a bit smarter then his rather........odd pa but I get the distinct feeling he is just as dedicated to his rather........odd brand of political views. He's just smart enough to not blast it all over Faux News or newsletters with his name on them.

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>Net and Yahoo!
>> No. 101465 ID: 56ddd0
If we could only find a correlation involving snacks this would make even more sense.
>> No. 101471 ID: 7cd8cc
snacks is a jew, just not tall enough to compete for president of israel
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Da biggezt & da baddezt iz ALWAYZ da Waaaaghbozz.

>u wil neva krump enuf gitz ta be da bozz
>ya grot

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101354 No. 101354 ID: 48be05 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]

>The final moments of Queensland man Ashley Johnston before he was killed this week while fighting ISIS in northern Iraq have been revealed.

>A fellow fighter detailed the last time she spoke to the 28-year-old along with photos of him on The Lions Of Rojava' Facebook page on Friday.

>Fighter Bejan Dagli also revealed how Johnston died, saying the Australian 'sacrificed himself' for his comrades.

>She was told by a witness: 'The panzer that we were inside was encircled by the ISIS-thugs and he jumped out of the panzer to cover us and break the siege.'

>Dagli also recalled how Johnston told her that he fought for the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) because he 'couldn't take the children and women that ISIS-thugs slaughtered'.
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>> No. 101441 ID: 1f1d62

I don't blindly trust anyone.

What I do trust is the actions and deeds of people and not their words. I have a lot of close bros that are only alive because of Kurds. In situations where, according to your cute little theory, they would've just sold them out.

I can't think of any other group in the area, Israelis included, that have gone out of their way to actually prevent the catastrophic loss of other tribes' lives at the expense of their own. Mosul Dam, Part I and Part II in case you still don't get it.

Is your scenario still plausible? Yes... people are people on the individual scale. I also don't think you know fuckall about poverty or people living in poverty and why your theory isn't as straightforward as you think.
>> No. 101447 ID: 626b5e

When you say "The Kurds" you're talking about the Peshmerga... Hopefully you're not saying "Every single individual Kurd won't possibly sell me out, and they'll never have the opportunity to do so!" Because that is going to get you fucking dead.

You're also equating your experience from being in Iraq with big Army to what it would be like showing up there alone. This is not even close to the case.

You will not have 50,000 US soldiers backing you up. You will have zero. You will not have the US DoD & DoS greasing palms with enough millions to get even the 33% compliance that they got out of the Iraqi Army while the other 66% just dig up their other weapons at night and shoot you in the back. You will have a price tag on your head worth more money than most people make in 50 years there. You're not only relying on the good graces of the Peshmerga (which is... fairly reliable I'll admit) but rather on EVERY FUCKING INDIVIDUAL PERSON YOU ENCOUNTER ACROSS IRAQ AND SYRIA.

Nobody is coming to save you from Jihadi John and his machete, bro. This isn't some fucking idealist fantasy. I'm telling you this as a reality check, you cross into Syria and you likely ain't coming out. Iraq is definitely safer IF you stick ONLY with the Peshmerga and don't go wandering around, but Syria is fucked and is a complete no-go for Westerners.

You are not like them, you will never be like them, not even if you convert to their religion. You are an outsider, and one with a bounty on your head. Don't go getting yourself killed.
>> No. 101448 ID: 626b5e

I'll ask you this, think of every single time in history that people were being slaughtered like this. Remember how many of them sell out anyone they can get their hands on in the false hopes it will save their family.

People will shovel the twisted, gassed bodies of their loved ones into a goddamned furnace to extend their miserable lives just by an unknown count of days. This is the nature of fear, and cowardice. Something that exists in every tribe, in every culture, and in every nation.

Just because you want to help them doesn't mean you can trust them, not that they're malicious, but that you really can't expect everyone to be that damned brave.
>> No. 101455 ID: 4fe180

B-b-but muh death cult holy war fantasies..
>> No. 101468 ID: 51aac8
Go to the Lions of Rojava facebook page or to the YPG facebook pages. they actively look for recruits in their fight against ISIS

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101438 No. 101438 ID: 18cafe hide watch quickreply [Reply]
>Oh boy, here we go again!

The gun battle is raging on Capitol Hill.

Lawmakers will introduce new gun safety legislation Tuesday expanding background checks to prevent criminals and people who are mentally ill from buying guns.

Most gun shops are already required to conduct background checks, but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows.
The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act would close this loophole and expand background checks to all gun sales.

“This bill is anti-criminal, and will help keep spouses, kids and communities safe by preventing dangerous people from getting guns,” said Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), who will introduce the legislation.

But the gun safety legislation comes in stark contrast to recent Republican bills that would expand concealed carry laws across the country and allow hunters to use armor-piercing ammunition.

Gun rights groups are gearing up for a major concealed carry push.

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>> No. 101443 ID: cd4a7e
>“It’s also pro-Second Amendment,” he said. “I’m a hunter and a gun owner. I support the Second Amendment. If this bill undermined the rights of gun owners, my name wouldn’t be on it."

The only thing worse than an anti-gunner is a fudd. This shit grinds my gears every time.
>> No. 101446 ID: cd49aa
I'm so sick of the hunter argument. I view my hunting being completely unrelated to my interest in guns. It has no bearing on my gun ownership apart from choosing a shotgun barrel. Plus, I prefer bow hunting.

So, anybody that makes a gun control argument based off them occasionally shooting an animal is fucking retarded.
>> No. 101449 ID: 999a22
>but the rules don’t apply to firearm sales made online and at gun shows

Christ, if this guy truly is a "gun owner" and has thus purchased guns before then surely he should know that this is disingenuous bullshit. They really ought to just tell the truth and say that they're going after private sales ONCE AGAIN.

>The ATF proposed last week to prohibit gun companies from manufacturing and selling certain armor-piercing ammunition for AR-15 rifles.

AHAHAHA! Hoo boy, this article...
>> No. 101462 ID: f9a97c
Same old spin, different day.
Fuckers have been trying to do this for decades.
>> No. 101466 ID: 667a5a
I'm also a hunter
Don't see what my shooting a deer has to do with national defense
Don't see what it has to do with guns for self defense against thieves, rapists and killers either

Unless Mr. Thompson is arguing that every so often we should release criminals into the wild for an annual hunt of the most dangerous game

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100774 No. 100774 ID: e2b601 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
According to Amber Lyon, a three-time Emmy award winning journalist, CNN is routinely paid by the US government and foreign governments to selectively report on certain events. Furthermore, the Obama administration pay CNN for editorial control over some of their content.


>americans think they have a free press
>tabloids and troll sites like ED are more reliable
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>>OPchan Spirit trip

Why the hell not? We have three who would be willing to go. I'm curious how many others would be interested.

Should we start a discussion in /meet/? I don't want to shit up the original news discussion about how the media is dorking us over, and colluding with the state.
>> No. 101358 ID: 52ed6e
DEA honeypot pls go
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You wierdo... Aya is totally legal in Peru.

I'm planning on going anyway, and Bob Dole is a really interesting dude who sounds like is in the right head space for an adventure like this.
>> No. 101366 ID: e8f72b
PD do you have a steam account? If so add me http://steamcommunity.com/id/ImBobDole/
>> No. 101369 ID: 17e2ba

Thanks Brohamed: check your steam for a request from Harry Manback. We'll get something going.

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101116 No. 101116 ID: ddcf9f hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]

The sale of machetes should be outlawed after several recent attacks, a Queens pol said Wednesday.

State Sen. Tony Avella plans to introduce a bill to ban the possession of the scary blades in New York.

“The fact that anyone can easily purchase this potentially lethal tool is just crazy,” he said.

Smaller knives such as switchblades and gravity knives are already banned and listed as deadly weapons under state law, but machetes are considered the same as butcher knives.

New Yorkers carrying those knives can be ticketed for a blade longer than 4 inches, an administrative code violation. They face up to 15 days in jail and a $300 fine.

Under Avella’s proposed legislation, the mere possession of a machete could lead to a year behind bars.

In movies like “Machete,” starring Danny Trejo, it’s the vigilante hero carrying the macho weapons. Not so in real life, however, and Avella’s push comes in response to an attack last summer on Long Island in which, according to authorities, a man hacked a teenager to death.
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My name is not important. What is important is what I'm going to do ... I just fuckin' hate this State. And the liberal worms feasting on its tax revenue. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred. And I always wanted to own a 30rd magazine. This is the time of vengeance and no hipster is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill. And it's time for me to die. My genocide crusade begins here.
>> No. 101275 ID: 600f3b
It's important to remember that not all of the NY metro area is a liberal cesspool.
Staten Island is mostly conservative for example, Ditto for North Bronx, parts of queens, and westchester and long island.

It'd be more efficient to wish for the destruction of Brooklyn and Manhattan
>> No. 101276 ID: 600f3b
Friendly reminder that NY was the only place I know of where food stamps (before EBT cards) where accepted by drug dealers, and were even used as a pseudo currency.
Bodegas would take em and let you buy Cigarettes and malt liquor.
I'm sure theres a work around in place now that they've gone to EBT
>> No. 101277 ID: 285294
EBT is still money, just money restricted to a few types of items. All you have to do is trade them to someone else at a loss for actual currency.
>> No. 101363 ID: 17e2ba
  This lady needs to tell em what's up.

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101186 No. 101186 ID: 1701f6 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:

Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
Shackling for prolonged periods.
Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.

At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.

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And why hasn't my requisition for a skull-mounted gun gone through yet? Sheesh.

brb reinstalling
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Follow up article: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/26/police-black-site-chicago-washington-politicians-human-rights

Pic related. It what Chicago PD looks like operating out of a black site. If that doesn't make you a little worried I don't know what will.
>> No. 101282 ID: c550c6
Since when does CPD use Baofengs?
>> No. 101283 ID: c34441
Since they discovered Baofengs are cheap, work really well for the price, and cost less to just replace with a new one than sending a Motorola equivalent off for repairs.
>> No. 101285 ID: 626b5e

Don't worry, he's just cosplaying as a real operator.

They just wanted their very own CIA: Extraordinary Rendition Playset, by Mattel©

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In a move clearly intended by the Obama Administration to suppress the acquisition, ownership and use of AR-15s and other .223 caliber general purpose rifles, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives unexpectedly announced today that it intends to ban commonplace M855 ball ammunition as “armor piercing ammunition.” The decision continues Obama’s use of his executive authority to impose gun control restrictions and bypass Congress.

It isn’t even the third week of February, and the BATFE has already taken three major executive actions on gun control. First, it was a major change to what activities constitute regulated “manufacturing” of firearms. Next, BATFE reversed a less than year old position on firing a shouldered “pistol.” Now, BATFE has released a “Framework for Determining Whether Certain Projectiles are ‘Primarily Intended for Sporting Purposes’ Within the Meaning of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(c)”, which would eliminate M855’s exemption to the armor piercing ammunition prohibition and make future exemptions nearly impossible.

By way of background, federal law imposed in 1986 prohibits the manufacture, importation, and sale by licensed manufacturers or importers, but not possession, of “a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely . . . from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium.” Because there are handguns capable of firing M855, it “may be used in a handgun.” It does not, however, have a core made of the metals listed in the law; rather, it has a traditional lead core with a steel tip, and therefore should never have been considered “armor piercing.” Nonetheless, BATFE previously declared M855 to be “armor piercing ammunition,” but granted it an exemption as a projectile “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes.”

Now, however, BATFE says that it will henceforth grant the “sporting purposes” exception to only two categories of projectiles:

Category I: .22 Caliber Projectiles

A .22 caliber projectile that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B) will be considered to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile weighs 40 grains or less AND is loaded into a rimfire cartridge.

Category II: All Other Caliber Projectiles

Except as provided in Category I (.22 caliber rimfire), projectiles that otherwise would be classified as armor piercing ammunition will be presumed to be “primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes” under section 921(a)(17)(C) if the projectile is loaded into a cartridge for which the only handgun that is readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade is a single shot handgun. ATF nevertheless retains the d
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>> No. 101185 ID: 9631af
In the M855-banning edict, they stated the following:

>"In November 2012, ATF held four meetings with interested parties representing law enforcement, the firearms and ammunition industries, and non-governmental organizations. In addition, after completion of these meetings, ATF also solicited and accepted comments from the general public through December 31, 2012."

For those unaware, when the BATFE makes an important interpretation of the law and new policy, it is customary (perhaps legally required) for them to publish information about it and ask for public commentary on it. This is always published on their website and also in some crap they mail out.

HOWEVER, in this case, no one can remember such a public commentary request… Nothing of the like was ever published according to everyone I have asked who stays plugged-in to legal issues. And we all know this would have been an attention-getter.

Bringing out the Internet Archive from the time period in question shows no such publication. It would be under "Firearms Industry News" at this link:


Does anyone else have access to better archives? If someone could find a snapshot of that page from closer to 12/31/12 it would be the smoking gun that the BATFE is lying.

They are inventing the past, right out of fucking Nineteen Eighty-Four.
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>> No. 101190 ID: dedcbd
Do you really think thermite wouldn't be able to melt through the mock barrel (which is hollow) within seconds and cut it off that way? Are you really trying to argue that a plasma cutter would be faster? Because it wouldn't. Yes, a plasma cutter would make a cleaner cut. But as I stated, I don't see the point of a precise and clean cut in this situation.
>> No. 101193 ID: f9a97c
using a thermite incendiary in the manner suggested will make a fantastic mess, and little else.
>> No. 101198 ID: dedcbd
It depends on how it's utilized.
>> No. 101204 ID: f9a97c

Ohh boy.
Yes that wasn't a fabulously sparkly mess in the least..(mind the sarcasm).

If that guy is trying to theorize WTC sabotage, he needs to look into banked sheet/cord explosives.

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