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102836 No. 102836 ID: 017bee hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Anyone else following the most insane election in recent memory?

Looks like the pre-election polls are going to prove to have substantially underestimated the Tory vote. As the actual results come in, the initial exit polls appear to be correct with Tories coming just shy of a majority.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32633008

>LibDem completely BTFO
>SNP sweeps Scotland
>Labour in permanent minority status
>UKIP = Ross Perot
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>> No. 103051 ID: 98e0f4
I hope the strong showing of the SNP leads to the Tories getting "English votes for English laws" enshrined in law at the same time that Scotland gets it super special awesome "Devo max". It's only fair.

But for all that which is holy, don't get rid of the nuclear deterrent. We can't leave all that responsability to Saudia Arabia.
>> No. 103060 ID: e61dcc
  >>102966

>Do you think there's any chance for the UK to go to proportional representation? I know UKIP, LibDem and the Greens would probably support it, while the Conservatives, Labour and SNP would be against it.

Nope...

Well it won't happen anytime soon but it dose get talk about now and again but usually only after an election and the ones that bring it up are the political parties that have lost out in an election. If a political party that was pro proportional representation wins an election they tend the change their tune to everything is fine with the way the current "first past the post" electoral system operates.

>Also, are you guys going to eventually just tell Scotland to fuck off? They seem about 1000 times more annoying than even the worst secessionists in the US.

Remember something the SNP said (or some one in the SNP said) in the referendum for independence about how Texas would be a new country soon as well, after a delegation turned up from Texas to observer and take notes on the referendum.

Yeah the SNP is a 1000 times more annoying than ever. They ran on campaign of no to austerity, no to a referendum on the UK's EU membership, increase in government spending, greater financial independence for Scotland. No mention of a 2nd independence vote.

Now they are in control of the Scottish government all they have done is basically sabre rattling 24/7 about a 2nd referendum on Scottish independence only 9 months after the 1st referendum in an attempt to get the UK government to agree to all the SNP policies they ran on.
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>> No. 103116 ID: 3f8c1c
  What libruls actually habeeb
>> No. 103126 ID: 3f8c1c
  >>103116
>> No. 103386 ID: e6e006
>>103060
The SNP really only care about their own little clique and lining their own pockets. All they want to do is carve off a slice of the Union and everyone Imperialist-Protestant who supports Rangers.

They are just nasty hypocrites, they constantly complain about "Tory cuts" and no money for Scotland then, and remember this is the party who are supposedly for the poorest in society, managed to underspend the NHS budget for Scotland by £444 Million. They then refused to speak about the underspend and blamed everything on "westminster".

They are truly scum of the earth.

What I think would undermine the Nationalist cause in the UK is to devolve more power to Councils, (like state level government only smaller and with worse teeth). Undermining the need for national assemblies and promoting local agendas.


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103312 No. 103312 ID: c3e6b2 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/05/31/411044789/live-blog-facing-midnight-deadline-the-senate-debates-parts-of-the-patriot-act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

Pic's a reminder how much Edward Snowden gave up for your freedom
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“If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”

DAVENPORT, Iowa — Rand Paul notched a big victory in Washington on Sunday night by following through on his promise to block the renewal of the anti-terrorism law used to justify domestic spying programs.

But back in Iowa, where Paul has tried to use the issue in recent days to revive his struggling presidential campaign, many Republican voters have responded with unease.

Even some who stood in line to see Paul as he traveled the state last week said that they simply could not agree with his argument that the National Security Agency’s bulk data collection was an unreasonable invasion of privacy.

“If you’re not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?” said Tom Charlton, 64, a retired sales training manager for a tire company, who was first in line at a book-signing with Paul in Davenport. “If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”

Vivian Martin, 71, bought a copy of Paul’s new book, “Taking a Stand,” and watched him speak here, but she said his views give her pause.

“I don’t want the mall to get bombed because they didn’t get the information they needed,” said Martin, who runs a water-softening business with her husband.

Another Republican, retired preschool teacher Sally Cram, 62, said after leaving a town hall meeting with Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) that she supports the NSA program because “I’m a person who believes our government tells us the truth.”
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>> No. 103322 ID: b7664e
The Paul team also argues that the issue could expand the electorate by galvanizing millennials to participate in the low-turnout Republican caucuses for the first time. The senator himself notes in his stump speech that recent surveys show that younger people are more likely to feel that government surveillance has gone too far.

In fact, polling is all over the place on the NSA issue, and opinions depend largely on how the question is asked. A New York Times poll in September found that 44 percent of Republicans thought that the government had achieved about the right balance in restricting people’s civil liberties to fight terrorism. About a quarter said that it did not go far enough, and a similar number said that it went too far.

Paul spokesman Sergio Gor said that the showdown is about principle, not politics. “Senator Paul will follow the Constitution over any poll,” he said.

Paul allies acknowledge that there has been a pendulum swing since 2013, when former CIA contractor Edward Snowden leaked details of the NSA programs and many conservatives responded with fury.

“It became a big deal after Edward Snowden, but now it hasn’t been in the news that much,” said Brian Duffy, 28, an executive at his family’s security business who was inspired to become a libertarian by Ron Paul but hasn’t yet committed to Rand Paul for 2016. “Unfortunately, people have come to accept that’s just how it has to be. Personally, I believe it’s a big encroachment on our privacy.”

For the most part, the issue comes up only rarely on the campaign trail in Iowa, even as Congress has been gripped by the reauthorization fight.

Grassley, who as chairman of the Judiciary Committee holds sway over the issue, said that basically nobody here had asked about it during his recent spate of town-hall meetings across the state.

At an hour-long meeting Thursday morning in the drab basement of a county courthouse in the small town of Tipton, Grassley fielded questions on immigration and Israel, entitlements and tax extenders, abortion and food stamps, the sequester and rural broadband — but there was nothing about the NSA.
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>> No. 103339 ID: 9aea35
>“If this can stop one attack, it’s worth infringing on legal citizens’ rights.”
Same argument as gun grabbers, how many chillens must die before we ban gun!!!

>how many americans must die before we abandon constitution!?11!
>all
As long as one American is alive the constitution is alive, it's stupid to cut it to pieces every time a few die, it completely changes the character of the culture
>> No. 103368 ID: e7f332
Sorry mammit, he is having his cake and eating it too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2792940/ed-snowden-enjoys-date-theatre-pole-dancer-girlfriend-lawyer-hints-pair-soon-marry-moscow.html
>> No. 103370 ID: fa19eb
>>103312
Based Snowden.


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103279 No. 103279 ID: 5bb72d hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Thick black smoke rising from the Baiji oil refinery could be seen as a dirty smudge on the horizon as far away as Baghdad after fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) set fire to the enormous processing plant just over 100 miles north of the capital last week.

The decision to torch the refinery, which once produced around a third of Iraq’s domestic fuel supplies, was made as the insurgents prepared to pull out of Baiji, which they captured last June in a victory that sent shock waves across world oil markets.

A year on from the start of the siege and a shaky alliance of the Middle East’s major Arab powers, with the limited support of the reluctant US government, has failed to contain the expansion of Isil.

The problem for the US and the rest of the industrialised world is that the Middle East controls 60pc of proven oil reserves and with it the keys to the global economy. Should Isil capture a major oil field in Iraq, or overwhelming the government, the consequences for energy markets and the financial system would be potentially catastrophic.

Many of the countries most threatened by the onslaught of the extremist group, which has grown out of the chaos of Syria but was initially dismissed as a wider threat to regional stability, will gather at the end of this week in Vienna for the meetings of the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec).

Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states and Iraq – which together account for two thirds of the cartel’s production – are all now affected by the inexorable march of the Isil jihadists but appear powerless to prevent it due to the widening sectarian schism between the Sunni and Shia Muslims across the region in the wake of the Arab spring uprisings five years ago.

Oil ministers gathering to decide on production levels at Opec’s secretariat building in Vienna will normally stay clear of wider geopolitical issues during their deliberations in the Austrian capital. However, the threat posed by Isil and its brutal brand of Islamist extremism is likely to force politics onto the agenda. It certainly can no longer be ignored.

According to Daniel Yergin, the energy expert and vice-chairman of IHS, the business information provider, the biggest threat to oil prices is the political chaos that threatens to engulf the Middle East, combined with the West’s reluctance to intervene.
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>> No. 103345 ID: f2b410
>>103328
The Kurds have it down pretty good from what I've heard.

From what I've experience dealing with Afghan National Army their culture is to "macho" to have a functioning NCO Corps. Their juniors aren't able to swallow their pride and their superiors don't have the will to force them too.
I can think of at least 5 different incidents where some low ranking ANA guy shot up his platoon because someone "insulted" his honor or dared have a slightly different view of the same damn religion (apparently there is more than just Sunni and Shia).
>> No. 103347 ID: 3f8611
>>103343

>Crashed out of fuel, as a result of refusing to refuel from a USAF female tanker crew.

Evolution's a bitch, ain't it?
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>Super BRDM-2
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>>103350
>> No. 103372 ID: 667a5a
>>103352
it's so dense!


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103268 No. 103268 ID: f013be hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-ordered-cia-to-train-isis-jihadists-declassified-documents

U.S. intelligence documents released to a government watchdog confirms the suspicions that the United States and some of its so-called coalition partners had actually facilitated the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) as an effective adversary against the government of the Syrian dictator President Bashar al-Assad. In addition, ISIS members were initially trained by members and contractors of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) at facilities in Jordan in 2012. The original goal was to weaken the Syrian government which had engaged in war crimes against their own people, according to a number of reports on Sunday.

The non-profit, non-partisan Judicial Watch -- a group known for its investigation of government corruption and abuse -- had obtained more than 100 pages of classified documents from both the US Department of Defense and the State Department through a federal lawsuit.

One of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) documents declared that President Barack Obama and his counterparts within the coalition considered the establishment of a Salafist organization in eastern Syria in order to further downfall of the Assad regime. “And this is exactly what the supporting powers to the (Syrian) opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime,” said the DIA report, which had been formerly classified until its release. Salafists are radical Sunnis and an offshoot of the Saudi's Wahhabi sect.

Military intelligence officials had also warned that any further damage caused by the Syrian civil war might have an adverse effect on the fragile government in neighboring Iraq. The intelligence analysis predicted that such a situation could lead to al-Qaida in Iraq (AQII) returning especially in the Iraqi cities of Mosul and Ramadi.

The DIA report also predicted that ISIS would declare a caliphate through its affiliation with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, including members of what the Obama administration terms "core al-Qaida" to differentiate it from offshoots such as al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula.

The now declassified document appears to confirm that the U.S., the European Union and other nations viewed Muslim extremists in ISIS as "a strategic asset toward regime change in Syria." As a result parts of Iraq have been in chaos since ISIS began to cross the Syrian border in early June 2014.

The documents obtained by Judicial Watch also provide the first official documentation that the Obama administration was well aware that weapons were being shipped from Benghazi to rebel troops -- including members from ISIS, the Al-Nusra Front and other Islamist terror groups -- in Syria. An October 20
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103299
Material support to these brave Viet freedom fighters will do much tie up the Japanese military.
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>>103299
Yeah but it worked out in the end.
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>>103300

Yeah, we had a little tussle after the French dropped it on our lap but then we got over it.

Now we have naval excercises with them, quietly.

Might as well, they're pretty much the Bavarians of Asia
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>>103310
Israel's a better comparison.
>> No. 103320 ID: 3f8611
>>103314

How?

We didn't fight a protracted war against Israel, retreat, and then get over it fairly shortly afterwards. Or you mean the Bavarian quip?


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  http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-republicans-deal-senate-means-patriot-act-provisions-31432679

IT'S HAPPENING (not in the usual sense)
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103295 No. 103295 ID: ac4c82 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://rt.com/news/263533-rusia-multinational-navy-drills/

>Russia will take part in naval military exercises together with its Asia Pacific allies, according to Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov.

>Speaking on Saturday in Singapore, Antonov announced Russia's planned participation in the May 2016 drills which have a focus on counter-terrorism and naval security.

>Antonov also said he was concerned about stability in the region, naming the US as the main destabilizing factor. He said that Washington's policies have been aimed against Russia and China: "We are concerned by US policies in the region, especially since every day it becomes increasingly focused on a systemic containment of Russia and China."

>"Despite our concerns about the US global missile defense architecture, they continue a policy of disrupting strategic stability, adding a regional segment of an anti-missile 'shield' in the Asia-Pacific," he added.

>He also blamed the US for interfering with the affairs of other countries and said Russia is worried by the trend: “An epidemic of 'color revolutions' swept the Middle East and, like a hurricane, wiped out several states in the region. This disease went across several European countries, where events are freely controlled from the outside.”

>The May 2016 exercises will take place in the South China Sea, where Japan and several other Asian countries, along with the US, have been pressuring China to stop the construction of artificial islands in disputed waters. Beijing claims most of the sea's area as its own, saying it is historically Chinese. The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei also say parts of the area belong to them.

Looks like Russia is expressing their gratitude towards China's participation of the Russian naval excercise in the Med this month... The Sino-Russian Entente growth stronger.
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>> No. 103301 ID: df12a0
  >>103295
>> No. 103302 ID: 0c08f2
BLOWOUT SOON


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103281 No. 103281 ID: 5bb72d hide watch quickreply [Reply]
When Vermont's Democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders launched his presidential bid with an anti-corporate message, he was tapping into growing populist sentiment among Democrats not quite satisfied with Hillary Clinton. But there is also an emerging populist current among Republicans — only it's manifesting itself in several different ways.

At the heart of the issue is that Republicans have tended to lose campaigns when the perception is that they're out of touch with the concerns of working-class Americans and merely exist to help the rich. Examples of this are George H.W. Bush losing his re-election bid during a mild recession (famously looking at his watch during a town-hall-style debate and bungling a question about how the deficit affected him personally) and Mitt Romney coming across as an aloof multimillionaire (who wrote off 47 percent of the country).



Given that Clinton will be challenged to maintain the same coalition of voters that propelled President Obama to the presidency, she'll have to make up ground among middle class voters — and any Republican who hopes to win in 2016 will have to prevent that from happening.

As a result, Republican candidates are embracing three different philosophical strains of populism.

One brand of populism blends social conservatism with a more expansive view of government.

Mike Huckabee, the evangelical pastor-turned-politician, raised taxes and increased spending as governor of Arkansas. He routinely slams not only Wall Street but also economic conservatives. In his current bid for the White House, he's attacked Republican efforts to reform entitlements and has portrayed himself as a guardian of Social Security and Medicare.

Rick Santorum is also staking out a similar space to Huckabee. Though, to be fair, he has a better record on taxes and fought for Social Security personal accounts. As senator he ultimately embraced George W. Bush's "compassionate conservative" agenda — voting for the Medicare prescription drug program and No Child Left Behind. Though he's since called those votes a mistake, even recently, he's come out in favor of increasing the minimum wage.
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>> No. 103282 ID: 511ecb
>>103281
>Mentions libertarian populism
>Doesn't mention Rand Paul

Fucking really Examiner?
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>>103282
I cannot tell if you are that guy that likes to shitpost in /n/ pretending that Rand Paul was ever a libertarian, or if you actually believe it.

He is a religious republican, with occasional libertarian leanings.
He isn't someone trying to make laws "Just", or trying to develop a consistent framework for determining whatever the fuck justice is. He is at best inconsistently trying to get the government to follow the law (aka the goddamn constitution)
Sadly, that alone does put him ahead of most.

When people do mental gymnastics to stuff Rand into the libertarian box, it reminds me of fucking highschool when very enthusiastic christians were trying very hard to believe that their favorite shitty rock/metal bands were also totally christian because one of their songs had lyrics that could be over analyzed.

Ron Paul is gone. He didn't win. He isn't coming back. His son is not and never will be a replacement.
>> No. 103286 ID: 511ecb
>>103285
>I cannot tell if you are that guy that likes to shitpost in /n/ pretending that Rand Paul was ever a libertarian, or if you actually believe it.

Does it matter what I am? The Libertarian populisim is behind Rand Paul at the moment; so mentioning the movement without mentioning the guy at the head of that movement smacks of either lazy research, or angry denial. Especially when you take the time to mention Z-listers like Huckabee and Santorum and skip a B-lister like Paul.

The rest of your post is just you assuming towards my personal opinions and trying to argue against me in some manner to make your e-peen hard. Which I don't know what you are attempting to accomplish bringing me out like that, considering you don't know any of my opinions on this matter, other than that I find it incredibly odd that the Washington Examiner specifically lists out several factions of the current Republican Party and completely misses the current leader of the most important one and is also currently the most electible candidate when it comes to the general election.

In other words, your post is bait and you should feel bad for posting it


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103278 No. 103278 ID: 5bb72d hide watch quickreply [Reply]
The boys said they approached the French soldiers because they were hungry. Some were so young they didn't quite understand the acts the soldiers demanded in return. One boy, 8 or 9 years old, said he did it several times to the same soldier, "until one day an older kid saw him and told him what he was doing was bad."

Another boy, 9, said he thought the soldiers had been urinating.

U.N. investigators heard such stories of sexual abuse from several boys in May and June 2014 in Central African Republic, where French soldiers were protecting a sprawling displaced persons camp in the conflict-torn capital, Bangui.

One year later, revelations about how the U.N. handled the boys' accounts have horrified people both inside and outside the world body. Statements marked "strictly confidential" have shown that its top human rights officials failed to follow up for several months on the allegations their own office had collected.

On Saturday, the high commissioner for human rights, Zeid Raad al-Hussein, said his office was sending a team to Central African Republic to look into what the statement called "possible further measures to address human rights violations," including sexual violence. The office also will ask "concerned states" what they have done to investigate them and prosecute anyone.

No arrests have been announced, and it's not clear where the accused soldiers, who were supporting a U.N. peacekeeping force, are now. The U.N. seems unable to say when the abuses stopped, or how long it continued to investigate.

On Friday, more documents were released by a non-governmental organization run by two former U.N. staffers that's calling for an independent investigation into the case. The documents show U.N. officials scrambling not so much to help a French inquiry into the allegations but to investigate the human rights staffer who told French authorities in the first place.

A separate report with the children's allegations, obtained by The Associated Press, says the first account was heard May 19 by a human rights staffer and a UNICEF child protection officer. The interviews continued through June 24. A Geneva-based human rights staffer shared the report with French authorities in July.
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When he joined the separatist insurgency in eastern Ukraine, Russian businessman Bondo Dorovskikh thought he would be fighting hordes of fascists bent on victimizing the local population.

The reality on the ground turned out to be quite different.

Instead of defending eastern Ukraine, Dorovskikh says he found himself stranded in the town of Alchevsk, where pro-Russian rebels controlling the area spent their days looting and drinking.

"In the morning the commander would get up and line up the insurgents for the roll-call, and in the evening there were another roll-call," he told RFE/RL. "The rest of the time the militants roamed around Alchevsk, pillaging, stealing scrap metal, removing metal gates and selling them to buy alcohol and cigarettes. Some of them would get drunk and fire at each other."

Dorovskikh recently returned from his six-month stint with the insurgents, feeling angry and cheated.

Like many other volunteers, he decided to take up arms after watching Russian television reports that portrayed Ukrainian forces in the country's east as neo-Nazi thugs persecuting and slaughtering Russian-speaking locals.

"Reports from the Rossia 24 channel on the latest news in Ukraine were constantly on my mind," he says. "The media influenced me."

Dorovskikh contacted the insurgency through its recruitment office in Moscow, where he was given a mobile phone number to call when he reached the southern city of Rostov, close to Ukraine's border.
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>>103208
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/30/ukraine-appoints-georgia-ex-president-mikheil-saakashvili-governor-of-odessa

>Controversial pro-western exile, who fought a war with Russia, takes control of strategic region, where there are fears Moscow could be trying to stoke unrest

>The Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko, on Saturday appointed fiercely pro-western former Georgian leader Mikheil Saakashvili, who once fought a war with Russia, governor of the strategic Odessa region.

>Poroshenko made the announcement at a televised event in the Black Sea port alongside Saakashvili, calling the former Georgian president a “great friend of Ukraine”.

>Saakashvili – a charismatic figure who speaks five languages, including Ukrainian – was already working as an adviser to Poroshenko and was granted Ukrainian citizenship just ahead of his appointment.
>including Ukrainian
No, he does not.

>He has recently been living in exile after authorities last year issued an arrest warrant for him on abuse-of-power charges that he insists are politically motivated.
But of course nobody is going to arrest him for his former country.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/30/russia-usa-destroyer-idUSL5N0YL0G720150530

>Russian military aircraft were scrambled to head off a U.S. warship that was acting "aggressively" in the Black Sea, state news agency RIA reported on Saturday, citing an anonymous source in Russia's armed forces in Crimea.

>The source was quoted as saying that the U.S. destroyer Ross was moving along the edge of Russia's territorial waters and heading in their direction.

>"Su-24 attack aircraft demonstrated to the American crew readiness to harshly prevent a violation of the frontier and to defend the interests of the country."

>Russia's Defence Ministry was not immediately available to comment on the report.

>The incident is the latest example of encounters between Russian and Western militaries, as tensions continue over the crisis in Ukraine and Russia's annexation of the Crimea peninsula, home to Russia's Black Sea Fleet, last year.
>> No. 103277 ID: 254d85
Faced with mounting pile of dead soldiers and increasing public opposition, Russian government declares Russian military deaths to be "state secrets".
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/28/vladimir-putin-declares-all-russian-military-deaths-state-secrets
>Vladimir Putin has declared that all military deaths will be classified as state secrets not just in times of war but also in peace – a move that activists worry might further discourage the reporting of Russian soldiers’ deaths in Ukraine.

>The Russian president has amended a decree to extend the list of state secrets to include information on casualties during special operations when war has not been declared, among other changes. Previously, the list had only forbidden (pdf) “revealing personnel losses in wartime”. He has repeatedly denied any involvement of Russian troops in a pro-Russian rebellion in Ukraine.
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Guys calm the shitposting/accusations/counteraccusations etc.

Be nice.


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103105 No. 103105 ID: 7161df hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Last week, Fox News broadcast a questionable poll image in which they placed the poll leader, Sen. Rand Paul, at the bottom of the list and put Jeb Bush on top.

Notice that the name listed last, Rand Paul, has the highest poll number and performs the best against Democrat Hillary Clinton. Still, it’s possible this could have just been random ordering on their part and completely unintentional.
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>> No. 103233 ID: d40753
>>103197
doesn't change the fact that fox news has the power to sabotage political candidates.
>> No. 103240 ID: f013be
>>103197
What does that have to do with Fox being the information source of the majority of the voter base?

>>103177
lol
>> No. 103249 ID: ca37e4
>>103233
>>103240

The point being, the people who sit in front of and get all their news from Fox in the first place have literally zero chance of voting in Rand Paul (or literally anyone other than another Bush) in the first place, so it really doesn't matter where they put his name on the polls. If we were talking about a responsible news organization, I'd see your point, but we're not.
>> No. 103250 ID: 3254ec
>>103249
>responsible news organization

Does such a thing even exist anymore?
>> No. 103252 ID: 4930b8
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