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115462 No. 115462 ID: e188a9 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/trump-crimea-russia-twitter-obama/index.html

>US President Donald Trump has taken a swipe at the previous Obama administration, suggesting it was "too soft" on Russia over its annexation of Crimea.

>Under increasing pressure over his administration's relationship with Russia, President Trump commented on Twitter Wednesday that the Crimea peninsula was "taken" by Russia from Ukraine under the Obama administration.

>Crimea was TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Administration. Was Obama too soft on Russia?
>- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2017

>The comments mark a sharp U-turn for Trump, who had previously buoyed the Kremlin's claim on Crimea.

>The White House and the Kremlim have engaged in back-and-forth commentry over Crimea in recent days. Trump's Press Secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday: "President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to deescalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea."

>On Wednesday morning, Russia's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said Russia would not return the territory.
"Crimea is part of the Russian Federation," she told reporters.
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>> No. 115463 ID: e188a9
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/02/14/russian-spy-ship-delaware-coast/97916530/

>A Russian spy ship, first seen 70 miles off the coast of Delaware, now patrols 30 miles offshore a U.S. Navy submarine base in Connecticut on Wednesday in what that state's Congressman called an effort to test the resolve of the new Trump administration.

>A U.S. defense official told CNN the SSV-175 Viktor Leonov sailing in international waters is outfitted with a variety of high-tech spying equipment designed to intercept signals intelligence. Fox News first reported the ship's location.

>The official noted it is not the first time the ship has been deployed off the coast of the U.S. Similar patrols were carried out by the Leonov in 2014 and 2015 off Florida, and such missions were more common during the Cold War.

>Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn., a member of the House Seapower and Projection Forces Subcommittee, said the ship was spotted about 30 miles from the Naval Submarine Base New London, located in Groton, Conn. It is the Navy's primary East Coast submarine base.

>Courtney said the move, coupled with the recent reported buzzing of U.S. Navy ships in the Red Sea by Russian planes, represents "unacceptable, aggressive action ... clearly testing the resolve of a new administration."

>"While I have total confidence in our Navy’s vigilant, responsible readiness," he said in a statement, "the White House needs to move past their seeming infatuation with (Russian President Vladimir) Putin and treat him like the serious threat to global peace and security that he has been for the last five years," the Hartford Courant reports.
>> No. 115466 ID: e188a9
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/world/europe/russia-cruise-missile-arms-control-treaty.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64912388&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

>Russia has secretly deployed a new cruise missile that American officials say violates a landmark arms control treaty, posing a major test for President Trump as his administration is facing a crisis over its ties to Moscow.

>The new Russian missile deployment also comes as the Trump administration is struggling to fill key policy positions at the State Department and the Pentagon — and to settle on a permanent replacement for Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser who resigned late Monday. Mr. Flynn stepped down after it was revealed that he had misled the vice president and other officials over conversations with Moscow’s ambassador to Washington.

>The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

>The Obama administration had sought to persuade the Russians to correct the violation while the missile was still in the test phase. Instead, the Russians have moved ahead with the system, deploying a fully operational unit.
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>Administration officials said the Russians now have two battalions of the prohibited cruise missile. One is still located at Russia’s missile test site at Kapustin Yar in southern Russia near Volgograd. The other was shifted in December from that test site to an operational base elsewhere in the country, according to a senior official who did not provide further details and requested anonymity to discuss recent intelligence reports about the missile.

>American officials had called the cruise missile the SSC-X-8. But the “X” has been removed from intelligence reports, indicating that American intelligence officials consider the missile to be operational and no longer a system in development.
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>> No. 115473 ID: e188a9
>>115463
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/832300799892082688
>Trump: “The greatest thing I could do is shoot that ship that’s 30 miles off shore right out of the water.”
>> No. 115494 ID: 9723b1
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115494
>>115466
>American officials say
>Administration officials said
>American officials had called
>Obama administration said
>according to a senior official who did not provide further details and requested anonymity
>struggling to fill key policy positions
>as his administration is facing a crisis
>he had misled the vice president
Fake news.

Also
>intermediate nuclear forces treaty bans all delivery vehicles between 500-5500km range
>implying drones haven't broken this treaty years ago
Under Clinton, Bush and Obama, America has unilaterally pulled out of most nuclear treaties. It will take decades to repair the damage they've done.
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115435 No. 115435 ID: d4c8ee hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/13/naacp-trump-netneutrality/

>But now Trump’s new FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, a former Verizon attorney, is pushing to repeal the net neutrality reform by rolling back that re-classification — and he’s getting help not only from a legion of telecom lobbyists, but from civil rights groups.

>In a little-noticed joint letter released last week, the NAACP, Asian Americans Advancing Justice, OCA (formerly known as the Organization for Chinese Americans), the National Urban League, and other civil rights organizations sharply criticized the “jurisdictional and classification problems that plagued the last FCC” — a reference to the legal mechanism used by the Obama administration to accomplish net neutrality.

>Instead of classifying broadband as a public utility, the letter states, open internet rules should be written by statute. What does that mean? It means the Republican-led Congress should take control of the process — the precise approach that is favored by industry.

>None of the civil rights groups that signed the joint letter responded to a request for comment.

>It’s not the first time civil rights group have engaged in lobbying debates seemingly unrelated to their core missions, but in favor of their corporate donors. At a time when OCA received major funding from Southwest Airlines, the group filed a regulatory letter on behalf of the airline in support of Southwest’s bid to open flights at Houston airport. The NAACP, after receiving financial backing from Wal-Mart, helped the retail chain during its contentious bid to open stores in New York City.
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>> No. 115474 ID: d4c8ee
"No legitimate internet user needs to have high capacity internet connections capable of downloading hundreds or even thousands of kilobytes a second."
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170206/07454836644/fcc-commissioner-thinks-ultra-fast-broadband-just-novelty.shtml

>One of the hallmarks of Tom Wheeler's FCC was a renewed focus on competition at higher broadband speeds. It's one of the reasons the last FCC bumped the standard definition of broadband from a measly 4 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up, to 25 Mbps down, and 3 Mbps up. That higher benchmark allowed the FCC to point out that roughly two-thirds of American homes lack access to more than one ISP at 25 Mbps or better, highlighting a growing cable monopoly over broadband as DSL providers like AT&T and Verizon shift their attention toward giant media acquisitions and away from residential broadband.

>Needless to say, large broadband providers (and the politicians paid to love them) quickly threw a hissy fit, insisting that nobody really needs that much bandwidth. This idea that you don't really need faster speeds falls in line with the industry's (and again, many politicians') ongoing refusal to acknowledge that the broadband market isn't all that competitive. After all, if you admit there's a problem, then you've admitted that somebody may just have to fix it.

>FCC Commissioner Mike O'Rielly is squarely on the side of industry on this subject, having voted down the FCC's higher 25 Mbps benchmark. Even though 25 Mbps is a far from radical benchmark, and 3 Mbps upstream remains a bit of a joke, O'Rielly's dissent (pdf), made his disdain for faster speeds (and the technologies that will use them) abundantly clear:

>"To justify setting the new benchmark at 25/3, as opposed to the current 4/1 or even 10/1 as several commenters suggested, the Report notes that 4K TV requires 25 Mbps. But 4K TV is still relatively new and is not expected to be widely adopted for years to come. While the statute directs us to look at “advanced” telecommunications capability, this stretches the concept to an untenable extreme. Some people, for example, believe, probably incorrectly, that we are on the path to interplanetary teleportation. Should we include the estimated bandwidth for that as well? "
>> No. 115479 ID: 3d5d9d
>>115474
Sounds just like a mag capacity ban
>> No. 115489 ID: b430d1
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>>115479
*takes a huge swig of mr. pibb from my 64oz bigulp*
back in the 90s americans had better, faster & cheaper internet access than any other nation on earth.
now we're africa tier
and it seems like big government want to make it even worse
i don't even know why
>> No. 115490 ID: 71ae68
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>>115489
>and it seems like big government want to make it even worse
i don't even know why

Cost, what else. It takes money and investments to upgrade our internet especially with how large the entirety of the US is with some pretty damn remote areas not even counting Hawaii or Alaska.

Its a bit like the thing of a nationwide public transit system. I've seen regularly Eurocommie types asking why America doesn't have a public transit system everywhere, why you can't take a bus or train to anywhere like you can in pretty much all of Europe. People don't understand the sheer size of America, the gaps between some populated areas, the great empty spaces and everything that makes a universal public transit system hard.

Hard but not impossible. Again, cost. Its costs money to invest in train lines, bus lines, and shit like that. You have to build hundreds and thousands of miles of passenger grades train lines, you have to create the infrastructure and all the junk that is considerably easier for a densely populated country the size of an average state but not so easy for mostly empty American sized states and ones with bad terrain.

To do it we'd have to raise taxes and high craptons of new government workers or turn to the private sector which might (will) wind up costing even greater amounts of money. Taxes would have to raised and we might not be able to feed the F-35 and political pork programs.

If there is no political will to absorb the cost then shit ain't getting done.
>> No. 115491 ID: d4c8ee
>>115489
>i don't even know why

Because federal standards for internet speeds would require the telco monopolies to actually invest in installing new infrastructure instead of just running everything as a turnkey operation until the infrastructure rots away and they get federal grants to replace it. The only places they're actually installing new infrastructure is in cities where Google is threatening to offer fiber service, because they know that any company that offers modern internet service will leach away their subscribers.


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115231 No. 115231 ID: cdc880 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
A proud strike against so-called human rights and a preservation of traditional Islamic values!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decrimiinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

>Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

>The move, which eliminates criminal liability in such cases, makes a violation punishable by a fine of roughly $500, or a 15-day arrest, provided there is no repeat within 12 months.

>The bill now goes to the rubber-stamp upper chamber, where no opposition is expected. It then must be signed by President Vladimir Putin, who has signaled his support.
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>> No. 115475 ID: 334c17
>>115472
Did you stop beating your wife already?

http://www.thelocal.dk/20170201/reported-rapes-in-denmark-double-in-two-years
>We are very pleased that we now have more accurate numbers on how many men and women have reported rapes. Previously there were many cases that were treated under the category of ‘investigation numbers’ that did not get included in the statistics of reported rapes
>The majority of the ‘missing' reports were hidden in police statistics by giving them investigation numbers that did not classify them as rape cases.

Statistic manipulation is a normal occurrence in modern countries because most of the people who read the news aren't educated enough to know the difference between registered crime and reported crime. Decriminalization of (previously) criminal activity always brings number of cases up because people become less concerned about consequences (they are charging their relatives with a criminal case) and more eager to resolve the conflict.
>> No. 115476 ID: d4c8ee
>>115472
>According to Rossiskaya Gazeta, the Russian government’s official newspaper, between 12,000 and 14,000 women die every year in Russia as a result of domestic violence

So I take it the Russian government doesn't count domestic violence related deaths as murders? Because the country's murder rate is around 13,000 people a year.
>> No. 115478 ID: 9723b1
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>>115476
It could just be a flawed translation, maybe there are 12,000 and 14,000 conviction cases in total.

The Independent is a MSM source, they don't care about accuracy, they only care about first to publish the most controversial stuff.
>> No. 115480 ID: 334c17
>>115476
>So I take it
You may take it as you wish because the opinion of English newspapers is irrelevant. Moreover, source was not provided, so the information cannot be verified.

Classification of incidents widely varies from country to country, so an "accident" could have been simply translated as "casualty" and presented in most innocent manner. "Number of reports have doubled" simply means "number of casualties have doubled" and "law was relaxed" means "violence is allowed". It's just a series of small adjustments, isn't it? The source meant to say "the new law allows to increase transparency and effectiveness", and the newspaper reads "Putin terrorizes and kills thousands of innocent people with his new proposal". Duh.
>> No. 115488 ID: cce514
>>115475
>>115478
>>115480
>Mohammad is too busy beating his wife and throwing acid on unveiled women to refute statistics and statements from the Russian government


No. 115422 ID: 632b3e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  LTG Hal Moore has passed away last night at age 94. He served his country with distinction and valor for over 32 years during the wars in Korea and Vietnam were he was immortalized as a Battalion Commander of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile) during the week-long Battle of Ia Drang.

Encircled by enemy soldiers with no clear landing zone that would allow them to leave, Moore managed to persevere despite being significantly outnumbered by North Vietnamese Army (NVA) forces that would go on to defeat the 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry only two-and-a-half miles away the next day. Moore’s dictum that “there is always one more thing you can do to increase your odds of success” and the courage of his entire command are credited with this outcome. Blond haired Moore was known as “Yellow Hair” to his troops at the battle at Ia Drang, and as a tongue-in-cheek homage referencing the legendary General George Armstrong Custer, who commanded as a lieutenant colonel the same 7th Cavalry Regiment at the Battle of the Little Bighorn just under a century before.

http://www.armywtfmoments.com/2017/02/11/ltg-hal-moore-passed-away/
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>> No. 115456 ID: 0d21cd
>>115424
A glider combat drop is worse than a parachute drop
>> No. 115459 ID: 3882d1
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>>115424
shaddup kiddo
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>>115456
>A glider combat drop is worse than a parachute drop

Most certainly. It's a huge fucking target in the sky and they would often crash even when not fired upon.

It takes a special kind of man to jump out of a perfectly good airplane, but it takes a fucking mad man to just sit around while taking fire & hoping that your pilot will find a suitable landing strip

But that's still not a combat jump. ;)

>>115459

pic related.
>> No. 115470 ID: 8a2fe4
>>115459
Whatever the spottiness of his record, I'm sure he still killed fiddi men.
>> No. 115471 ID: 649f2c
>>115460
i remember being in the three where we made the trollface totenkopf, i don't even remember what site it was on, but i remember the thread. i say we, but i didn't participate other than as a heckler because i felt at the time that trollface was almost as done to death as bad feels frog & i was trying to force a competetive meme - noobelwerfer - which ironical never took off.


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115192 No. 115192 ID: 002280 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
All locations where he owns real estate

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html

The seven nations targeted for new visitation restrictions by President Trump on Friday all have something in common: They are places he does not appear to have any business interests.

The executive order he signed Friday bars all entry for the next 90 days by travelers from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia and Libya. Excluded from the lists are several majority-Muslim nations where the Trump Organization is active and which in some cases have also faced troublesome issues with terrorism.

According to the text of the order, the restriction applies to countries that have already been excluded from programs allowing people to travel to the United States without a visa because of concerns over terrorism. Hewing closely to nations already named as terrorism concerns elsewhere in law might have allowed the White House to avoid angering some more powerful and wealthy majority Muslim allies, such as Egypt.

But without divesting from his company, as bipartisan ethics ­experts had advised, Trump is now facing questions about whether he designed the new rules with his own business at least partly in mind.

“He needs to sell his businesses outside his family and place the assets in a blind trust, otherwise every decision he makes people are going to question if he’s making the decision in the interests of the American people or his own bottom line,” said Jordan Libowitz, the spokesman for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a liberal watchdog group. The group has filed a lawsuit arguing that Trump is already in violation of a constitutional provision barring federal officials from accepting payments from foreign officials.

Earlier in the week, Norm Eisen, the group’s chairman and a former ethics adviser to Barack Obama, tweeted: “WARNING: Mr. Pres. your Muslim ban excludes countries where you have business interests. That is a ­CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION. See u in court.”
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>> No. 115420 ID: f9b63c
>>115419
>No evidence has been provided for that.
No evidence needs to be provided. To anyone. If secret CIA assets tell the president there's a credible threat, none of the other branches can bar the response to that threat. Banning foreigners from setting foot in the country is the one unquestioned power of the president, as head of the executive branch.

>it is the role of the judiciary to interpret the law
An executive order is not a law, it is an order written by the executive branch head (president) to his subordinates in the executive branch (military, police, alphabet agencies). The judiciary has no power to interfere in a response to a nuclear attack any more than this executive order.

>Due Process Clause ... applies to all within the United States
Thanks for proving my fucking point. If they're out of the country at the time the executive action is made, they're out of luck. If they're in the country, they leave when their visa expires.
Foreigners already in the country at the time of THIS executive order are unaffected by it anyway, making this judicial decision is grandstanding and completely null and void.
DOJ approved the executive action as legal, any rablerousing bullshit by OBAMA APPOINTED JUDGES is temporary as the lawsuits climb up the circuit, as even the Supreme Court can't do shit.
>> No. 115421 ID: cd97f9
>>115419
>Within our system, it is the role of the judiciary to interpret the law, a duty that will sometimes require the '[r]esolution of litigation challenging the constitutional authority of one of the three branches.' ... We are called upon to perform that duty in this case.


...translating...

>We like to legislate from the bench...
>> No. 115427 ID: 9f0b71
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>>115421
i legislate where i want. u mad?
t. lifetime appointment wizards of the bench
>> No. 115428 ID: b70387
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>>115427
Well played.
>> No. 115429 ID: 649f2c
>wizard
✅ yep
>lifetime appointment
✅ yep
>bench
✅ yeah the bench, the sink and the hole in the corner are the only pieces of furniture he will ever own


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115351 No. 115351 ID: 632b3e hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senior-atf-official-proposes-loosening-gun-regulations/2017/02/06/beeb1120-ec7c-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.db025d13ba1a#comments


>In 1989, the George H.W. Bush administration banned the import of semiautomatic assault rifles. Turk’s white paper, which refers to them as “modern sporting rifles,” notes that their use has “increased exponentially in sport shooting.”

>“Those firearm types are now standard for hunting activities,” according to the paper. “These restrictions have placed many limitations on importers, while at the same time imposing a heavy workload” on the ATF.

Also things about silencers and arm braces.
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>> No. 115410 ID: 8a2fe4
>>115409
Okay, this one is probably an M1.
>> No. 115412 ID: b70387
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115412
>>115409
>> No. 115413 ID: 8a2fe4
  >>115412
But how would I clear my house with that?
>> No. 115416 ID: d37610
>>115413

>what house lol
>> No. 115418 ID: 791f24
>>115412
yeah, i'd like to have a bank of 4 of those mounted parallel to my upper arm so i can be the P-47 version of starscream

or maybe i want to be an f4-u corsair \/Ⓧ\/ i dunno lol


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115373 No. 115373 ID: ea3865 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Hope the New Justice Department of America does something like this. Open carry is just as legal no matter what clothing you're wearing, don't make a difference if it makes some government goon's anus pucker or not.
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As the two men approached a police station in Dearborn, Mich., on Sunday, one of them looked into the camera he was holding and explained — via Facebook Live — what their intentions were.

They claimed to have been illegally pulled over about an hour earlier and wanted to file a complaint, said James Baker, wearing a dark balaclava over his face.

Next to him, his friend Brandon Vreeland — toting a camera on a tripod — agreed “100 percent.”

Baker turned the camera back toward himself to more clearly reveal a rifle slung across his chest, body armor and a GoPro camera attached to his left shoulder.

“We felt a little afraid for our lives when we were pulled over,” Baker said, “so we figure we better protect ourselves.”

The pair — who describe themselves as open-carry advocates and frequently post videos of their interactions with police — entered the station and walked through another set of doors. Within seconds, a cacophony of shouts echoed throughout the lobby.

“Dude, put that on the ground!” someone can be heard yelling. “Put it on the ground!”
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>> No. 115387 ID: b70387
>>115386
Someone else can answer how this behavior is supposed to make cops less trigger-happy.
>> No. 115389 ID: f9b63c
>>115387
Someone please explain how leaving an abusive home will make the abuser less angry?
>> No. 115391 ID: b70387
>>115389
I don't get what you're saying. Leaving an abusive home makes the abuser's anger (hopefully) irrelevant. Trying to intimidate cops will just put them more on edge than they already were.
>> No. 115392 ID: b430d1
  >>115380
Also it's Dearborn, could have easily been some terrorist thing.

>>115391
Not to mention that Sovereign Citizens have already murdered police officers and attempted to attack courthouses/police stations. There's a reason those FBI/DHS pamphlets list "right-wing activists" in the same group as Islamic terrorists, animal rights activists and so on.
>> No. 115417 ID: 69150e
To those who preach justice but practice violence
To those who preach morality but practice vanity
To those who preach obedience but practice cowardice:

May you obtain what you never had before.


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115344 No. 115344 ID: e188a9 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Russian and Iranian backed "moderate islamist terrorists" attack Riyadh with ballistic missile, threaten Mecca. Hope anybody here who's still active duty is ready to die in Yemen for Trump's oil profits.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-ballistic-missile-strikes-riyadh-saudi-arabia/

>According to emerging reports from Yemen, a surface-to-surface missile fired by the Yemeni Army has hit Riyadh in Saudi Arabia.

>The missile was launched on Sunday evening, and sources in Yemen have described the missile test as successful. It is unclear exactly what missile was used, and casualty figures, if any, are yet to be reported.

>Saudi Arabia militarily intervened in the Yemeni Conflict in 2015, leading a coalition of almost 10 Middle Eastern countries. In October 2016, a Yemeni activist warned that Riyadh was the next target for a Yemeni missile attack.

>Update 1: More information has emerged, suggesting that the missile was a variant of a Russian Scud, known as the “Borkan” surface-to-surface missile.

>Update 2: Sources indicate that the missile struck a military base West of Riyadh, in Mazahimiyah.

>Update 3: On social media, a Saudi attempts to cover-up the attack, saying that the sound of the explosion in Riyadh was an earthquake or meteor.

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>> No. 115350 ID: b70387
Remember when Palestine would lob Scuds into Israel like weekly?

Why would the Saudis cover it up if they would want to finagle us into putting boots on the ground for them?
>> No. 115353 ID: 334c17
>>115350
>Why would the Saudis cover it up if they would want to finagle us into putting boots on the ground for them?
Because they can't hope for more help than they are already receiving. Saudis got themselves in pointless war for oil profits and loyalty and as soon as it becomes obvious that there's nothing to dig out there US will scurry away from their alliance to get all the benefits while bearing none of the responsibility.
>> No. 115404 ID: 9dc901
>>115344

I don't think you realize what website you're posting this on.

I'm pretty sure the majority here would take great joy in seeing Saudi Arabia collapse.
>> No. 115405 ID: 9723b1
>Russian and Iranian backed "moderate islamist terrorists" attack Riyadh with ballistic missile, threaten Mecca.
lol so?

Saudis invaded Yemen for no fucking reason, got their shit pushed in as a response. I hope the Yemenis bioweapon Mecca so all the pilgrims take ebola back to their islamic countries.

Also
>trump didnt ban saudi travel because he has business there
>trump and putin and iran and yemen are in league
>thats why putin backed iran backed yemen attacked saudi arabia, a place that trump has business interests in
Liberal logic falls apart at the lightest critical examination.
>> No. 115411 ID: 8a2fe4
>>115404
Shit. I've known Arabs that hate Saudi.


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115283 No. 115283 ID: b70387 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Imagine having a rash on your arm, in additional to a fever of 100.4 degrees on an airplane headed to the United States from abroad. The stewardess takes notice, and the pilot notifies the airport. When you are taken off the plane, you are placed in quarantine for up to three days while doctors watch your symptoms.

Under a new CDC rule scheduled to take effect on Feb. 21, this would be the spelled-out decision of the federal health agency.

The updated regulation, published in the last full day of then-president Barack Obama’s administration, is seen by many health officials as a way to modernize the CDC’s ability to fight new quick-moving pandemics, like the H1N1 outbreak in 2009, or the Ebola virus outbreak in West Africa in early 2014.

The federal agency already reserved the authority to hold travelers for an indeterminate amount of time – but now the definition of “ill person” is widened. And that person can be held for 72 hours before their case is subject to review, when suspected of being infected with a series of diseases.

In essence, this formalizes the powers that the CDC has already reserved over a number of decades.

“The final rule does not expand the authority granted to the CDC by Congress to place individuals into quarantine or isolation, nor does it change the formal list of diseases subject to federal isolation or quarantine,” the CDC said in a statement accompanying the new rule. “The final rule recognizes that CDC by statute has a primary role at ports of entry and in other time-sensitive situations where state and local public health authorities may not be present or where measures taken by these authorities are inadequate to prevent communicable disease spread.”

The target list of disease includes those that are most communicable and potentially most deadly if spread amongst a dense modern population: cholera, diphtheria, tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever, viral hemorrhagic fevers like Ebola and Marburg, severe acute respiratory diseases like SARS and MERS, and severe flu strains that could cause a pandemic.

The rule also spells out the ability of the quarantined or “apprehended” to be able to challenge their detainment, with the help of a second medical opinion – and even through court remedy.
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>> No. 115284 ID: b70387
Original title of this thread was:
>New Republican Government Gives FEMA Increased Quarantine Powers

This violates /n/ rule 1 for the following reasons:
1. The CDC and FEMA are two separate and unrelated federal agencies
2. This regulation was finalized during the last full day of Obama's presidency
3. The article describes a rule, which is not legislation and therefore did not need to pass through the Republican-held Congress

The post originally began with
> >these guy are gonna legalize weed and machineguns any day now guise, just you wait
> >they so pro-freedom and liberty OMG
which I removed, because it is based on the same false premise.
>> No. 115285 ID: ba3dd1
>>115284


something something fake news etc.
>> No. 115286 ID: f11f4d
>>115284
Huh. Seems like OP went out of their way to provide pointless misinformation, good work then.
>> No. 115293 ID: 8722a1
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http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-check/2014-02-04/story/fact-check-truth-about-those-fema-coffins
>the White house has quietly ordered $1 billion worth of disposable coffins for FEMA detention centers in case of an American revolt.
>> No. 115299 ID: 9723b1
>>115293
Well do you want a bunch of zombie bodies just hanging around in the streets, smelling up the place?

It's far better to seal them away.


No. 115278 ID: 389026 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
  >USS Antietam guided-missile cruiser runs aground, leaks oil
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/uss-antietam-damaged-japan/
Is this true? its on CNN, but Fox isn't reporting it and the only thing I found on
Breitbart was old news about the Russian navy
>> No. 115281 ID: 9723b1
Ships run aground or hit things all the time, especially warships which don't stick to carefully planned trade routes. This nonsense is used all the time to paint the country that it happens to as in competent, but the fact of the matter is that the ocean is not perfectly safe. This type of article was useless in the cold war when we and the soviets used it to shit on each other, and it's useless no


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