So.... What you're saying... Is that the military responded to an unprovoked attack, as it should?

And this is somehow Trump's fault?

Reminder; if the shitlibs had won the election, we'd be INVADING Syria, and thus guaranteeing a conflict with Russia.

And we'd also have another AWB.

>US-led coalition fighting ISIS in Syria
>conducted strikes against pro-regime forces
You've had one job, Uncle Sam, one fucking job.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syria-accuses-us-of-aggression-after-its-warplanes-strike-pro-government-forces/2018/02/08/bab1502a-0cb4-11e8-8890-372e2047c935_story.html?utm_term=.d9
3dacbc6d7b

>Syrian state television accused the United States of a “new aggression” on Thursday after U.S. warplanes bombed pro-government forces attempting to storm a U.S.-allied rebel base in the eastern desert.

>U.S. forces targeted the pro-government troops with airstrikes and artillery after they launched an attack against a base belonging to the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces in the eastern province of Deir al-Zour, according to military spokesman Col. Thomas F. Veale.

>The hostilities erupted, he said, after a battalion-sized detachment of infantry — several hundred fighters — backed by tanks and artillery began advancing on a SDF position in the town of Khisham, located around five miles east of the informal deconfliction line established between the U.S. and Russian militaries last year.

>The clash came after a week in which the U.S. military had noted a build up of pro-government forces in the vicinity, and it appeared the advancing forces were intending to seize nearby oil fields that the SDF had captured from the Islamic State last year, Veale added.

http://www.industryabout.com/country-territories-3/1371-syria/oil-and-gas/19688-al-isba-oil-gas-field
>Shareholders: General Petroleum Corporation (GPC) (50%), Shell Petroleum Development (SSPD) (32%)

CENTCOM is trying to keep a lid on it but apparently what happened was a unit of Russian mercenaries started the initial attack and then retreated through a Syrian position before dispersing.

>>117880
>not peace but a sword

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  >implying there's difference between Trump and Hillary when it comes to war

>call yourself "ISIS hunters"
>fight against Syrian rebels instead of ISIS
>declare jihad on the people fighting against ISIS because you got bombed after attacking the people actually fighting ISIS
russianlogic.txt

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pro-govt-isis-hunters-release-official-statement-us-airstrikes-deir-ezzor/

>>117890
>but Syrian rebels are not ISIS!
>Assad must go!
Only a absolutely convoluted foreign policy like US has could imagine the situation where you call your forces "anti-ISIS" and then become allies with ISIS to fight "undemocratic president".

>>117882
>when you try to false flag your allies but get owned instead

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-13/u-s-strikes-said-to-kill-scores-of-russian-fighters-in-syria
>U.S. forces killed scores of Russian mercenaries in Syria last week in what may be the deadliest clash between citizens of the former foes since the Cold War, according to one U.S. official and three Russians familiar with the matter.

>More than 200 contract soldiers, mostly Russians fighting on behalf of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, died in a failed attack on a base held by U.S. and mainly Kurdish forces in the oil-rich Deir Ezzor region, two of the Russians said. The U.S. official put the death toll at about 100, with 200 to 300 injured.

>The Russian assault may have been a rogue operation, underscoring the complexity of a conflict that started as a domestic crackdown only to morph into a proxy war involving Islamic extremists, stateless Kurds and regional powers Iran, Turkey and now Israel. Russia’s military said it had nothing to do with the attack and the U.S. accepted the claim. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis called the whole thing “perplexing,” but provided no further details.

>President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, declined to comment on reports of Russian casualties, saying the Kremlin only tracks data on the country’s armed forces. Putin talked with U.S. President Donald Trump by phone Monday, but the military action in Syria wasn’t discussed, he said.

>>117899
>bloomberg.com
>More than 200 contract soldiers, mostly Russians
>The U.S. official put the death toll at about 100, with 200 to 300 injured.
I'm kinda baffled by this statement from such respectable source because last time I checked (it was about 10 hours ago) there were only 4.

>according to one U.S. official and three Russians familiar with the matter

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/13/middleeast/russians-killed-us-airstrikes-syria-intl/index.html
>Several Russians who had been hired as paramilitary contractors were among more than 100 men killed in US airstrikes in northern Syria last week, according to their friends and families.
>friends and families
Oh well.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/02/13/ensure-fair-trials-syria-isis-suspects
>Ensure Fair Trials of Syria ISIS Suspects
>Foreign ISIS Detainees Raise Due Process, Victim Participation Issues
>"Please save the ISIS! ISIS are people too!"
Well, if moderate islamic beheaders are considered to be "democratic opposition", it is just a natural step-up to proclaim not-so-moderate beheaders to be victims too.

>>117899
>handful of ODA guys and a couple companies of Kurds
>versus a battalion sized element of Syrians and Russians with tanks and artillery

That's some Siege at Jadotville shit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/02/09/in-syria-russian-bad-faith-turns-fatal/

>Hassan says he had intelligence reports that the pro-regime attack was coming. So at 9:30 Wednesday night, about a half-hour before the assault began, he called his regular Russian liaison contact in Deir al-Zour — hoping to avoid a battle.

>“We told them there is some movement, and we don’t like to … attack on this movement. They [the Russians] don’t accept our offer and denied, said there’s nothing happening,” Hassan said through an interpreter. He was speaking to several reporters who traveled here Thursday with Maj. Gen. James B. Jarrard, who oversees U.S. Special Operations forces in Syria and Iraq.

>U.S. commanders attempted a similar de-confliction. According to a Pentagon statement Thursday, “Coalition officials were in regular communication with Russian counterparts before, during and after” the attack. “Russian officials assured coalition officials they would not engage coalition forces in the vicinity,” the statement said.

"lol what attack"

>Hassan said that as the carnage spread, the Russian liaison officer contacted him again, asking for a pause to collect the dead and wounded — from an attack he had earlier denied was coming. The Kurdish commander saw this as a breach of faith.

>“We don’t trust Russia anymore,” Hassan said. When a reporter asked about the irony of the Russian officer denying the attack and then asking for a truce, Hassan responded: “It’s funny that a superpower doesn’t know what their forces are conducting on the ground.”

"OUCH STOP HITTING ME"

>unprovoked attack
>a rogue operation
>some movement
>forces allied to Syrian President
>pro-regime forces
>mercenaries
>contract soldiers, mostly Russians
>Iranian backed-forces
>Several Russians
>death toll at about 100, with 200 to 300 injured
How it feels to talk to mentally impaired.

>>117902
>handful of ODA guys and a couple companies of Kurds
>The US official said that US forces in the region counterattacked using artillery and aircraft.
I think it was clear enough that Kurds did not engage in battle. A standard tactic for a terrorist-supporting state like USA - attack first and then declare to be attacked (even if your enemy has no such capacity).

According to Russian local papers that have interviewed the families of the deceased, the mercenaries attacked because "local businessmen" promised them a share of the oil fields the Kurds had captured, and they thought the Kurds and Americans would surrender after getting shelled because they weren't strong manly men like Russians.

  >>117907
>According to Russian local papers that have interviewed the families of the deceased
Hey, I found you new proofs.

>>117929
This is fake. That video is from a video game demo.

  >>117958
cheki breki you are russophobic racist jew lover, why do you deny the 11 billion murdered at the moscow airport by america?

  Good riddance to human trash.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pompeo-confirms-hundreds-of-russians-killed-in-us-attack-in-syria/ar-AAvOypA
>President Trump’s nominee to serve as Secretary of State confirmed Thursday that “a couple hundred Russians were killed” by U.S. forces in Syria earlier this year.

>Mike Pompeo, who currently serves as CIA director, offered the confirmation in response to questions about the U.S. relationship with Russia. The February attack by U.S. special forces — acknowledged at the time by Russian and Syrian officials but until now unconfirmed by the U.S. — targeted pro-government Syrian forces who were working alongside Russian mercenaries.

>“In Syria, now, a handful of weeks ago the Russian met their match,” Pompeo told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. “A couple hundred Russians were killed.”

>A U.S. official previously said that the U.S. had communicated with Russia prior to the attack and no Russian government forces were killed.

>118144
>Actual picture of 271b09

>>118145
Well, Pompeo certainly has something in common with this boy. As do the most of contemporary US executives it seems. Naivety, so to say.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43747922
>What proof is there of a chemical attack?
>The Violations Documentation Center (VDC), a Syrian opposition network which records alleged violations of international law in Syria, said bodies were found foaming at the mouth, and with discoloured skin and cornea burns.
Why don't you go and check on a huge and absolutely terrorizing violation of international law like occupation of areas of sovereign state of Syria by foreign invaders.

>On Thursday, unnamed US officials told NBC News they had obtained blood and urine samples from victims which had tested positive for chlorine and a nerve agent.
>The US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Hayley, told the network: "We definitely have enough proof but now we just have to be thoughtful in our action."
>enough proof
Apparently no proof at all is enough proof to do anything. Even as much as further destroy said country and violate every possible right of it's citizens. After all you can just blame everything on Assad if you play out well.

https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/12638/uk-s-united-nations-ambassador-russia-marx-would-be-turning-his-grave

>Responding to Pierce’s remarks, English political journalist Aaron Bastani wrote on Twitter: “There aren’t really words to describe how rapidly Britain’s diplomats look shambolic to the rest of the world. This is Mickey Mouse stuff.”

Seriously UK. UK seriously. Stop. Your UN speaker portfolio is older than modern Russian state.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/syria-trump-intervention-moral-philosophy/557750/
>What If There Is No Ethical Way to Act in Syria Now?
How About Just Fuck Off For a While.

  >trump statement on Washington Post live
>people post anti-war comments on stream
>chat is disabled during stream
This is the future you choose.

>>118155
>"th-th-th-the west needs to stay out of syria! russia will handle it!"
>create massive refugee crisis, enable gas animal assad's actions
>the world decides to actually do something
>"buuuh buuuh buuh th-this is the future you chose!"

>>118156
>the US decides to actually do something
>creating another refugee crisis

So, how bad does shit have to get before I can enlist with a waiver for my past tachycardia diagnosis?

>>118158
Probably about when they start going "it's prison or the marines" to gang members again.

>>118160
>its getting a real job in the private sector and actually earning the pay you receive or join the police gang

this is what they say on the way out

  This here live, breaking news - CNN has aquired special genetically modified reporters who can smell chemical weapons with their own noises.

FSB agent declares death of journalist he murdered a suicide.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43781351
>A Russian investigative journalist who wrote about the deaths of mercenaries in Syria has died in hospital after falling from his fifth-floor flat.

>Maxim Borodin was found badly injured by neighbours in Yekaterinburg and taken to hospital, where he later died.

>Local officials said no suicide note was found but the incident was unlikely to be of a criminal nature.

>However, a friend revealed Borodin had said his flat had been surrounded by security men a day earlier.

>Vyacheslav Bashkov described Borodin as a "principled, honest journalist" and said Borodin had contacted him at five o'clock in the morning on 11 April saying there was "someone with a weapon on his balcony and people in camouflage and masks on the staircase landing".

>In recent weeks, the journalist had written about Russian mercenaries known as the "Wagner Group" who were reportedly killed in Syria on 7 February in a confrontation with US forces.

>>118171
poor, innocent russia has blocked investigators from actually going to see if there was a attack, sure is a lot of smoke coming from this non existant fire that is a western fabrication.
http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/russia-blocks-investigation-of-syria-chemical-attack-site-reports-claim/news-story/c1fc0a8ab90abeee82f867fa8bd0b705
>RUSSIA and Syria have blocked chemical inspectors from investigating the site of a brutal chemical attack in Douma, reports claim.

>Russia may even have compromised the site of the gas attack in Syria, according to Ahmet Uzumcu, Director general of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

>“It’s our concern they may have tampered with it to thwart the fact-finding investigation,” Mr Uzumcu is quoted as saying by NBC’s Bill Neely.

>reports claim
For the general education of clueless and illiterate masses, reports do not claim, reports do report, because they are named as such. Claims are pronounced by editorial offices and politicians and moderate headchopper activists.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/16/602823635/chemical-weapons-inspectors-havent-reached-douma-finger-pointing-has-begun
>"The Syrian and Russian officials who participated in the preparatory meetings in Damascus have informed the [Fact-Finding Mission] Team that there were still pending security issues to be worked out before any deployment could take place," Üzümcü said.

>OPCW heading towards chemical site to gather actual evidence of the attac
>Trump orders 100 rockets to strike the city
>4 days later
>OPCW heading towards chemical site
>moderate headchoppers start shelling the city again
Every fucking time. You know there's familiar pattern when it is exactly the same happened 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_RuGLpfHVU
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/01/mh17-investigators-reach-crash-site-ukraine-search-bodies
>Artillery fire was audible at the site on Friday as the investigators arrived.
Did I already tell you what is the definition of insanity?

>>118172
>muh buh buh everything that happens is FSB fault
Over the years worshippers of western values has acclaimed a nasty reputation of killing useless members of their spacious family and blaming it on Russia. Too bad they never really admit it for the fear of being next sacrifice.

  >when you have enough resources and support to build huge metro complex in the city you occupied
>using slave manual labor of local population of course
As the evidence mounts of unspeakable atrocities performed by western-supported "rebels", their sponsors are becoming more and more nervious and push for more agressive invasions, bombardment and violations of international agreements and laws.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/16/syria-strikes-may-tells-mps-uk-could-not-have-waited-for-un-approval
>She faced down her critics in a heated debate in the Commons in the wake of the atrocity, which she described as “a stain on our humanity”, insisting the UK had needed to act rapidly to prevent further attacks.
Yet they announced several days of headstart to let the country get prepared for that staged attack. What a bunch of complete hypocrites.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/16/russia-is-responsible-for-syria-attacks-us-ambassador-to-nato-says.html
>"Stop the mad behavior, the malign influence that you're sewing all over the world, it's time to come into the community of nations and if you do so we will welcome you," Kay Bailey Hutchison told Willem Marx on CNBC's "Street Signs" Monday.
Remember what I said earlier about American diplomacy 101?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/16/us-and-uk-blame-russia-for-malicious-cyber-offensive
>The cyberwar between the west and Russia has escalated after the UK and the US issued a joint alert accusing Moscow of mounting a “malicious” internet offensive that appeared to be aimed at espionage, stealing intellectual property and laying the foundation for an attack on infrastructure.
>“We are pushing back and we are pushing back hard,” he said.
Never miss the opportunity to sew more false flag accusations, the momentum is essential!

>>118175
>>118176
And yet Russia is still gassing civilians in Syria.

Though it is already not news that >>118155 gas cylinder was produced in Germany, more news emerge from abandoned chemical laboratories and underground storages captured and cleared Douma. And I'm not talking about bodies of executed civilians, of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K5eDYssbTw
>Russian military finds alleged chemical weapons lab in Douma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnlLldoYz5Q
>Syria: Inside hospital to which alleged Douma chemical attack victims were brought

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/17/syria-crisis-medics-intimidated-over-douma-gas-attack
>The head of the largest medical relief agency in Syria claims that medics who responded to the suspected gas attack in Douma have been subjected to “extreme intimidation” by Syrian officials who seized biological samples, forced them to abandon patients and demanded their silence.
>“There has been a very heavy security presence on the ground ever since the attack and they have been targeting doctors and medics in a very straightforward way,”
>now in Turkey where he is supervising the departure from Syria of some of the Douma medics
>“Any medic who tried to leave Douma was searched so vigorously, especially for samples. At one medical point, seven casualties were taken away. The Russian military police were heavily involved. They were directing things.

It is very kind of these people to list number of methods of information control and warfare they use. Because they have no information on what methods are used by Syria and Russia, it is natural for them to project their own experience and attribute it to their sworn enemy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/18/arrival-of-chemical-inspectors-in-douma-delayed-by-gunfire
>Chemical weapons inspectors' security team fired on in Douma
The tone of the article is rather shifting back to neutral gear.

Unfortunately, we already know that there's no breaks on this train, and US or UK will never, ever admit anything. Forget they can, of course, they will forget it after a week. But after a week, new bullshit will start over again.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/946455/syria-attack-us-jordan-uk-russia-france-missiles-4000-us-servicemen-launch-major-wargames

>ALMOST 4,000 US servicemen began major wargames in Jordan today – just hours after neighbouring Syria was bombarded by more than 100 missiles launched by America, Britain and France.

And heroic and brave Russia is also claiming they shot down 54 of 47 cruise missiles, including 3 by SA-7, flawlessly defending all but the three targeted sites, and all without any missile wreckage being photographed or anybody whipping out their celphone to take a video of the fireworks, unlike all the videos of them launching missiles on unguided ballistic arcs after the cruise missiles hit.

l o fuckin' l if you still give Russian claims any consideration.

>>118236
Post sources or go home.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/coalition-forces-killed-civilians-islamic-state-study-finds/

>A US-led coalition bombed key targets in what were described as “pinpoint airstrikes” by Michael Fallon, who was then the UK’s defence secretary, when the city was finally liberated last July.

>The RAF struck more than 750 targets during the campaign to liberate the city, second only to the US, according to the Ministry of Defence.

>“The high velocity, high explosive weapons have a huge range and using these weapons in tightly packed urban areas is a major risk. You might be targeting snipers or a group of [Isil] fighters but if they’re closely surrounded by large numbers of civilians you can expect substantial casualties,” he said.

As I mentioned once before, the concept of "precision strike" is largely misleading when applied to practical use - mainly because how MSM use it as a hallmark for "democratic" wars rather than "illegal" ones. It's not like other kinds of war are more safe or effective than this kind of force projection, but they are certainly less cynical.

It's not like ISIS makes a less of a threat if they killed less civilians and destroyed less of infrastructure than so-called "anti-ISIS" coalition, but it certainly changes priorities. It was stated many times before, that the terrorism is not the cause of current situation per se, it is a problem itself, and fighting a problem without realizing the cause of it puts you into positive feedback that escalates the trouble continuously.

And, of course, no one is going to help them repair their houses.

>>118345
>look mommy I posted it again!

>>117878

There will never be a war with Russia.

And you are now reminded US intervention in Syria was started under Obama.

  Oh, isn't that a beautiful example. The observations on a site in Aleppo where the Al Nusra terrorist groups organized their hospitals. You can observe a similar picture everywhere in the rest of Syria where the government forces were fighting "democratic" insurgents.

Too bad Raqqa isn't given such attention at all - it was just bombed to dust by coalition and nobody even goes there any more. It's not controlled by government force, nor by American coalition, and may as well end up as another point of insurrection.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/05/middleeast/us-led-coalition-raqqa-war-crimes-intl/index.html

>Airstrikes by the US-led coalition in Raqqa, Syria, probably breached international humanitarian law and potentially amount to war crimes, according to a report by Amnesty International that is being hotly contested by the Pentagon.

>The rights group accuses the coalition of killing and injuring thousands of civilians in attacks that were at times "disproportionate or indiscriminate," during its offensive to flush ISIS militants from their de facto capital.

>"The coalition's claims that its precision air campaign allowed it to bomb (ISIS) out of Raqqa while causing very few civilian casualties do not stand up to scrutiny," said Amnesty's senior crisis response adviser, Donatella Rovera.

>>118377
>look mommy I posted it again!