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117992 No. 117992 ID: 44e2a0
cheki breki if you even think Russia did this you're a racist, fascist bigot who must be banned from opchan!

>A nerve agent was used to try to murder a former Russian spy and his daughter, police have said.

>Sergei and Yulia Skripal were found unconscious in Salisbury on Sunday afternoon and remain critically ill.

>A police officer who was the first to attend the scene is now in a serious condition in hospital, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said.

>Mr Rowley, head of Counter Terrorism Policing, said government scientists had identified the agent used, but would not make that information public at this stage.

>"This is being treated as a major incident involving attempted murder, by administration of a nerve agent," he said.

>"Having established that a nerve agent is the cause of the symptoms... I can also confirm that we believe that the two people who became unwell were targeted specifically."

>He said there was no evidence of a widespread health risk to the public.

>Two other police officers who attended the scene were treated in hospital for minor symptoms, before they were given the all clear. It is understood their symptoms included itchy eyes and wheezing.
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>> No. 117994 ID: 278cbe
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Now if I were as naive as this OP over here, I would have thought that UK security is somewhat lacking in abilities, if its citizens die so easily of nerve gas, radioactive chemical attacks and scarf suffocating. But I'm not as stupid and I would consider the security is in top shape if it allows itself to transport such hazardous substances across the whole country without certain consequences.

But that's the other story to brood about, meanwhile far more interesting things are happening.


>Sweeping new powers that U.K. lawmakers introduced earlier this year to crack down on the estimated £90 billion ($126 billion) currently being laundered through companies and luxury real estate in central London. Known as unexplained wealth orders, the new investigative powers allow British law enforcement to demand that any person holding property or assets worth more than £50,000 ($70,000) in the U.K. explain the origin of their wealth.

>unexplained wealth

>“Basically, they are reversing the burden of proof,” says Alexei (the Venetian dandy), a Russian businessman who has lived in London for over 20 years. (He asked for anonymity when discussing his financial affairs.) The British authorities “can label you guilty until you show that you are innocent. London was always an easy place to do business. Now, I think people will think twice about investing there.”

Psst, kid, don't you have some "unexplained wealth" over here? Woops, we took all of you wealth because you did not explain it to us. Now you try to explain how it happened.
>> No. 117995 ID: 278cbe
  Now the only thing left to do is to put a blame on Russia for everything, as a cherry on top.
Seriously tho, $126 billions, fuck logic and everything. Money.


>"By encouraging trade with Russia, where money certainly talks, we have encouraged the investment in this country of billions of pounds of gangster money from oligarchs.

>"Many people here have felt deeply uneasy about the City's role as the laundromat for dirty money from Russia and her ex-Soviet neighbours.

No shit, it makes people uneasy when there's huge pile of money out there in your country while your economy is experiencing difficulties. Better grab it with both hands until it seeps away.

>"Putin's media emphasise how Russian oligarchs who have fallen foul of the Kremlin are feted in 'Londongrad', where they have effectively taken up asylum."

Now isn't it a neat trick we have here. First you promise these people and their money an ideal refuge in UK, and allow these people to live a luxury life, while ignoring all requests for extradition, cooperation in investigation, asset retrieval and so on. And then you take all of their money, from these stupid fucks. Just write a bunch of new laws.

>"We know that you are a smart boy, and you are also probably wasn't a good boy, so give us all of your money, or else. Or else evil Russians will come for you to take your life (but not your money, your money are in UK and they will not leave the UK even with your pretty please)."
>> No. 117998 ID: 336722
yeah that is kinda funny, but it will be way funnier when people see the queen rolling around london in her horse drawn carriage with new gold rims and lifts bouncing on all that russian jewgolds and pumping the bass
>WOOT we got yo munny u dumbass slavniggers
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Number of victims increased to 21.
>> No. 118003 ID: 278cbe
This is not exactly a queen rolling, but close enough.

>18 other people who may have been exposed
>He would not say whether the other victims were other officers, medical workers or bystanders.
>Police have not offered any specifics about the attack, including the type of nerve agent used or how it was delivered.
I would rather call it breach of Rule 1, but on the other hand article tone is as suggestive as this already.


>Hit Putin's Red mafia: Britain poised to smash Russian president's pals' dirty cash after nerve agent attack

>British cyber spooks have the ability to launch a huge assault on Russia’s infrastructure, industry and military if they are given the go-ahead.


>Theresa May vows revenge on Vladimir Putin for nerve agent hit on ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal

Practically speaking, there are no details on situation released by police as of yet, no background whatsoever, but of course all the measures are already implemented and rolling. In other words, all connections between the case and the reaction to it is pure coincidence and emotional outburst, which is a typical story for British or American politics.

>The immediate expulsion of senior Russian diplomats and spies, as well as potentially cancelling Kremlin-linked oligarch’s visas to London, plus asset freezes and travel bans.
>A statement of joint international condemnation from Britain’s closest allies - France’s President Emmanuel Macron and German leader Angela Merkel.
>In the longer term, boosting Britain’s military deployments in Eastern Europe with more jets and troops, as well as a pushing for a NATO-wide reinforcement at the alliance’s summit in July.

And it turns out that current measures are no different than any of the other ones that has been taken before. In effect, nothing has changed and nothing is going to change as the result of that "attack".
>> No. 118011 ID: 1d521e

>> all connections between the case and the reaction to it is pure coincidence and emotional outburst

Well, when Russia has assassinated multiple high value targets in the recent past, and was already in the headlines because Putin held a speech to say "look at our dick. It's mostly 3D models, but it's sooooo big. You listen to us now...". The reaction isn't exactly pure coincidence. Especially for the brits, who've had almost this exact scenario played out on their soil before.
>> No. 118013 ID: 278cbe
>assassinated multiple high value targets in the recent past
>because Putin held a speech to say
So, apparently Putin so much wanted to stay in headlines he decided to "assassinate" some absolutely random dude (while there's over 300 000 of other Russian immigrants out there) with his 3D models of maybe-a-nerve-agent.

>brits, who've had almost this exact scenario played out on their soil
This should probably tell us something about brits, then.

>THE graves of poisoned Russian spy Sergei Skripal’s wife and son could have been boobytrapped.
>One theory police are probing is the possibility

>We don't know who was behind the attack on the former Russian spy in Salisbury, but the use of a highly sophisticated nerve agent points towards a nation state
>Robert Owen said the murder was "probably" approved by president Vladimir Putin

>Members of the Falcon Squadron, Royal Tank Regiment, at Winterbourne Gunner, southern England, conducting final preparation and training before deploying in support of the civil authorities in Salisbury city centre.

>Investigation of Sergei Skripal case follows the Litvinenko script: most info to be classified, Russia to get no access to investigation files and no opportunity to assess its credibility

At this point the story has already departed from "awkward attempt at breaking news" and lands squarely into the field of "comedy gold". Which is more understandable since in recent times NATO countries are often forgetting that they have the ability to communicate.

>The initiative follows Russia’s unsuccessful attempts to set up a meeting between Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in Ethiopia this week. The U.S. government repeatedly denied receiving a formal request for the meeting, while Russian diplomats insisted that a request had been sent.
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Russian state TV: Don't criticize Russia if you live in the UK or we will murder you.
>Russian state television has warned “traitors” and Kremlin critics that they should not settle in England because of an increased risk of dying in mysterious circumstances.

>“Don’t choose England as a place to live. Whatever the reasons, whether you’re a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don’t move to England,” the presenter Kirill Kleymenov said during a news programme on Channel One, state TV’s flagship station.
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I guess that's fair advice. For some reason, no other country in the world does have such jarring issues with assassinations of Russian citizens, as well as attempts to relieve them of their money and possessions.

But worry not, UK isn't only country that is famous for regular abuse of human rights and international regulations.

>Despite our permanent calls on Washington to step up normal cooperation between the competent agencies based on the 1999 bilateral Treaty on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, US authorities continue to “hunt” for Russian nationals around the world, ignoring the rules of international law and putting pressure on other states. The number of such incidents has exceeded two dozen. The latest example includes the recent extradition of three Russian nationals, namely Maxim Senakh, Alexander Sergeyev and Mikhail Serov, from Finland to the US.
>> No. 118021 ID: 734a2c
>Maxim Senakh, Alexander Sergeyev and Mikhail Serov

Won't somebody think of the poor, innocent Russian criminals who created botnets and participated in cigarette tax fraud conspiracies?

>According to the court documents, starting in 2008 Senakh began working with several co-conspirators to place the Ebury botnet on thousands of Linux-based computers worldwide.

>The leader of the conspiracy, John Maddux Jr., 56, formerly of Russell, operated mail order/online businesses that sold the cigarettes at discount prices. Maddux executed the scheme by forming a business with two Russian nationals, Alexander Sergeev and Mikhail Serov. Sergeev and Serov shipped cigarettes from Russia directly to customers of Maddux and his co-conspirators.
>> No. 118022 ID: 278cbe
>Won't somebody think of the poor, innocent Russian criminals
>U.S. District Judge
>District Court District of Minnesota
Obviously Americans have difficulties in differentiating between local and international affairs, but that doesn't mean they can violate conventions they signet themselves, including basic human rights.
>> No. 118023 ID: 33a7c0
>arresting Russian criminals for committing crimes is a violation of human rights!

But you said human rights are a conspiracy against Russia last week.
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>human rights are a conspiracy against Russia
It wasn't our idea to use "human rights" excuse to engage in trade and economy war against unfriendly countries.
>> No. 118025 ID: 4b455c
Yes clearly "the west" should have reacted to Russia's invasion of Ukraine by carrying out limited nuclear strikes against Russian cities instead of economic sanctions. That's what Russian doctrine is after all now that they've abandoned MAD.

Or perhaps instead of spending 40 years dumping their entire budget into weapons of war, Russia should have spent on their economy so they didn't turn into a third world country that experiences famine if Portugal boycotts Russian natural gas.
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>Russia's invasion of Ukraine
>economic sanctions
Perhaps you aren't old enough to remember what amount of bullshit Russia had to endure in 90s and 00s to be able to earn enough reputation as business partner, access to WTO and some sort of reliable credit rating. All of it to be nullified all over again under absolutely unrelated, bogus, randomized and disproportional measures taken long before 2014.

And no, the economic sanctions weren't the consequence of "invading Ukraine", none of them seem to be, the only direct consequence of that "invasion" was expansion of US military budget and flooding the Eastern Europe with NATO weapons, extremists and influence.

>That's what Russian doctrine is after all now that they've abandoned MAD.
Nobody really abandoned anything like that, if you don't count USA abandoning ABM Treaty of 1972. Russia is still 15 minutes from obliterating the entire NATO military infrastructure (as a response measure, obviously).
>> No. 118028 ID: 5f85fb
Nerve agent has been confirmed as a Novichok agent.
>Theresa May has said it is “highly likely” that Russia was responsible for the poisoning of former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, and warned Britain would not tolerate such a “brazen attempt to murder innocent civilians on our soil”.

>In a statement to the House of Commons that triggered a furious response from Moscow, the prime minister said the evidence had shown that Skripal had been targeted by a “military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia”.

>May addressed MPs after chairing a meeting of the national security council, where senior ministers were told that the nerve agent used was from a group known as Novichok.

>“Based on the positive identification of this chemical agent by world-leading experts at Porton Down, our knowledge that Russia has previously produced this agent and would still be capable of doing so, Russia’s record of conducting state-sponsored assassinations, and our assessment that Russia views some defectors as legitimate targets for assassinations, the government has concluded that it is highly likely that Russia was responsible for the act against Sergei and Yulia Skripal,” she said.

>The prime minister said that left just two plausible explanations for what happened in Salisbury.

>“Either this was a direct act by the Russian state against our country. Or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.”

>"why does the world see russia as a bad guy?!?!"

Also the US withdrew from the ABM treaty because Russia hadn't been complying with it. We removed the Spartan and Sprint missiles from service, but Russia never removed their ABMs from service and in fact brought a new system into service in 1995
>> No. 118029 ID: 278cbe
>“highly likely”
>she said that the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, had summoned the Russian ambassador to Whitehall and demanded an explanation by the end of Tuesday
I can only imagine amount of (implied) sarcasm said ambassador expressed in response on such accusations of "highly likely" involvement.

>“Either this was a direct act by the Russian state against our country. Or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.”
"Obviously the Russian nerve gas can only work in the hands of special invisible and untraceable Russian agents of Putin. Or it can only be produced from molecules supplied directly from Russia."

>Also the US withdrew from the ABM treaty because Russia hadn't been complying with it.
Oh yes, "it isn't my fault, it's your fault" and other "dindu" accusations - classic US response to anything. But you see, Russia did not leave the ABM Treaty. Russia did not violate it's signed treaties. Russia did not prevent US from monitoring it's arsenals within those treaties. Russia did not place it's missiles into other countries. Russia doesn't threaten countries with complete obliteration. And so on, and so forth.

Personally, I do not worry at all - the more mistakes the US makes and more delusional it is, the easier it will be to counter it's maniacal tendencies. At least as long as there's nuclear arsenal to contain it.


>> No. 118030 ID: 2cea7e
If the SAS was to raid the Russian embassy in London tomorrow, it's absolutely doubtless they would find bioweapons primed and ready to go.

>Russia doesn't threaten countries with complete obliteration.

Go fucking hang yourself Ivan.

(/n/ rule 2)
>> No. 118031 ID: 278cbe
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Contrary to opinion of of some public idiots, MAD isn't a concept about threatening and madness, it is a formal agreement that roughly states "you do not attack and we would not attack back", which holds the exactly opposite purpose and a message of peaceful intentions through overwhelming firepower.

Reassuring the existence of MAD in the presence of such power-hungry and life-threatening power as US is a necessary measure to preserve world peace, because it is absolutely certain that the moment US will be presented with possibility to conduct unlimited strike without retaliation, it will unload all of it's nuclear and non-nuclear arsenals without any second thought. Exactly as it did during WW2.
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>Mr Tillerson told reporters on Monday night that it would be “almost beyond comprehension” for a state to be behind the attack with what the UK says is a military-grade nerve agent from a family of chemical weapons called Novichok. The top US diplomat said he had spoken to Boris Johnson, the UK foreign secretary, adding that the US would put out a statement to support the British findings.

Mr. Tillerson, there's nothing to understand. At this point Britain is actually a Nazi Germany in 1939 - it poisons people with chemical weapons and uses the incidents as an excuse to attack other countries.


>Sergei Skripal attack: Salisbury poison novichok is so secret, it has never been detected before

Buuuut for some reason Britan is already aware what type of weapon it is and where it did come from.

>It was identified at Porton Down, the government laboratory near Salisbury with world-class expertise in chemical warfare. Scientists believe that it could only have been produced at a Russian state facility

Oh wait.



>The secretive UK army lab where poisons are hunted and made
>The Defence Science and Technology Laboratory - its official name - employs 3,000 scientists across a sprawling rural site and has an annual budget of £500 million (US$695 million).

It just happened so that said incident happened near world-class Defence Laboratory, which is capable of producing and studying of chemical weapons. Absolute coincidence. Nobody should have suspected anything.
>> No. 118035 ID: 3e82bd
FWIW a team of Iranian researchers did a spectrographic analysis of five Novichok agents back in 2016. So the information to identify the agent is publicly available.
>> No. 118036 ID: 278cbe

>A Russian exile who was close friends with the late oligarch Boris Berezovsky has been found dead in his London home, according to friends.

>He noted that a large number of Russian exiles, including Berezovsky, and Berezovsky’s close friend Alexander Litvinenko, had died under mysterious circumstances. “Boris was strangled. Either he did it himself or with the help of someone. [But] I don’t believe it was suicide,” Glushkov said.

>“Too many deaths [of Russian emigres] have been happening.”

It keeps happening!
>> No. 118037 ID: 729e6f

British government finally launches investigation into decades of assassinations by Russian government, it only took a chemical weapons attack.
>> No. 118041 ID: 8e801a
hopefully putin finishes what stalin started and wipes the russians out entirely. people complained endlessly about the russians and then when pekka putin tries to do something about the issue people bitch about that too
>> No. 118042 ID: 278cbe
>And there were only two plausible explanations.
>Either this was a direct act by the Russian State against our country.
>Or conceivably, the Russian government could have lost control of a military-grade nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.
>Mr Speaker, it was right to offer Russia the opportunity to provide an explanation.
>They have provided no credible explanation that could suggest they lost control of their nerve agent.
I think there was pretty clear response that Russia does not give a single fuck about Britain's fabricated "explanations". Britain is always free to do whatever the fuck it wants without any explanations whatsoever, because, whatever it does, will be met with appropriate response.

>Many Russians have made this country their home, abide by our laws and make an important contribution to our country which we must continue to welcome.
>But to those who seek to do us harm, my message is simple: you are not welcome here.
It's OK, it seems they would get the message, you may stop killing them already.

>U.K. to Expel 23 Russian Diplomats Over Poisoning of Ex-Spy
Uh-oh, somebody is going to get catapulted out of Moscow pretty soon.

>hopefully putin finishes what stalin started
That's right, you are going to be sent to GULAG.
>> No. 118043 ID: 104512
>"nigger of europe" furious at being punished for their crimes
>> No. 118054 ID: 278cbe
  23 diplomats are catapulted out of Russia.


>Russia will expel 23 British diplomats and close the British Consulate in St. Petersburg in as part of its response to London’s decision to expel Russian diplomats in an escalating row over the poisoning of a former spy and his daughter in Britain earlier this month.

Britain is being butthurt about people demanding any explanations of it's actions.
Reminder: possession and exploitation of chemical weapons is a violation of international norms.


>UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson urged Russia to "go away" and "shut up" as he unveiled plans for a new chemical weapons "defence centre".
>defence centre

Now fucking explain me how do you defend with chemical weapons.


>It was a historic moment largely ignored at the time by most of the world’s media and might have remained so but for the attack in Salisbury. At a ceremony last November at the headquarters of the world body responsible for the elimination of chemical weapons in The Hague, a plaque was unveiled to commemorate the destruction of the last of Russia’s stockpiles.

>The UK government case rests not just on its argument that novichok was developed in Russia, but what it says is past form, a record of Russian state-sponsored assassination of former spies.

I can anticipate Britain going absolutely ballistic over the ongoing loss of last UK-supported "moderate terrorists" in Syria, and simultaneously getting fried over complete disruption of international order, relations and communications, especially for such UN-related organization like OPCW.
>> No. 118063 ID: 278cbe

>"It is no secret to anyone that the UK’s closest partner is the only state officially keeping the largest arsenals of chemical weapons in the world," he said.

>Moscow deems the the Salisbury attack as an act of terror on a Russian citizen, he said.

That's right, everybody forgot to mention that even though the UK spy was under attack, Russian citizen had also suffered from it.


By the way, there's a big suspicion that UK and US are now testing and developing new generation of chemical weapons, since they are falling behind in many other "defensive" technologies like hypersonic missiles and nuclear weapons. Covering it all up with "chemical weapons use" seemed to be a great idea beforehand, but apparently with this case UK went overboard. Now it is even highly unlikely they will be able to accuse Syria of another "use of chemical weapons" to somehow save the their Ghouta "rebels".


>The Novichoks - those thought to have been used against the Skripals - were never declared to the OPCW, and the chemicals never formed part of any control regime partly because of uncertainty about their chemical structures.

>And specific names are crucial, because the CWC allows countries to legally possess a wide range of chemicals if they are identifiable.

So, wait a second, so these chemicals did not even make to the list of chemical weapons proper, why would UK then promote this toxic substance as "chemical weapon". The answer is kind of trivial - because it was most suitable substance. Like meldonium.


>Moscow has denied any involvement in the Skripals' poisoning and demanded proof.

>Its foreign ministry insists there has never been any research conducted on Russian soil "that would bear the direct or even code name of Novichok".

>The word Novichok, said spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, was an invention of the West when a number of ex-Soviet scientists moved there in the 1990s "taking with them the technologies they were working on".


>Rink told RIA he had worked at a Soviet chemicals weapons research facility in the town of Shikhany in Russia’s Saratov Region for 27 years until the early 1990s. Novichok was not a single substance, he said, but a system of using chemical weapons and had been called ‘Novichok-5’ by the Soviet Union.

>“A big group of specialists in Shikhany and in Moscow worked on Novichok – on the technologies, toxicologies and biochemistry,” he said. “In the end we achieved very good results.”

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