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118423 No. 118423 ID: 7c7f93
Trump urges ban on gun devices like bump stocks

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/02/20/trump-ban-bump-stocks/
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>> No. 118429 ID: ffe1b2
The government is destroying the US, but Americans want more government.

The USA is collapsing, but Americans say nothing.

Insanity.
>> No. 118430 ID: 336722
Some Americans may have felt uneasy 35 years ago when DUI laws, DWI checkpoints, seatbelt laws, and car liability insurance laws were started, but most people felt that the experts must be right.

Pro-police state shows like "COPS" and "America's Most Wanted" were then aired, neighborhood watch groups were formed, "get tough on crime" candidates were elected, and laws allowing mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, and chain gangs were enacted.

Nanny state smoking laws then started appearing.

When 9/11 happened, the Patriot Act was passed, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, FOSTA, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws were allowed.

Now that the USA is a total police state, Americans are finding out that changing anything is impossible and that freedom is lost forever.
>> No. 118432 ID: 95b638
>>118430

Your rights end where mine begin. You don't get to massively increase the chances of other peoples' untimely death because you want to drive drunk or smoke like a chimney in public places.

That is a separate issue entirely from shit like the Patriot Act, conflating the two is wrong on many levels...
>> No. 118433 ID: 8a5b02
Does anyone get the feeling that anyone supporting the police state now is a paid NSA shill?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
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>>118432
>Your rights end where mine begin so anything that i imagine might endanger me or my property must be banned
OK chicken little, but why don't you hand over those guns because sometimes people get shot by accident and give me that soda too because I don't want you being fat near me.
>> No. 118435 ID: 8a5b02
Americans said that alcohol was dangerous so it must be outlawed.

Americans later found out that alcohol wasn't so bad and should be legal.

Americans then said that marijuana was dangerous so it must be banned.

Americans later found out that pot wasn't so bad and should be legal.

Now Americans scream guns are dangerous so they must be illegal.

If people were wrong before, how can they can be so sure that they are right now?

http://www.badharvest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=2
>> No. 118446 ID: 95b638
>>118434

That's not what was said at all. You can have your guns, I can have my guns, that's not an issue. You don't have a right to actively poison me because you make poor life choices. That just makes you an asshole.
>> No. 118447 ID: 64af1e
Supporting the police state doesn't make you a brave man. Defending tyranny just means that are a disgusting coward and traitor.
>> No. 118448 ID: 5c87e8
>>118446
>You don't have a right to actively poison me because you make poor life choices. That just makes you an asshole.

OK you don't have the right to risk accidentally shooting me or drive up my health insurance costs by being fat near me because you make poor life choices, hand over the guns & soda.
>> No. 118449 ID: 3056ca
Wow.

Americans are such pussified snowflakes now that they want the Gestapo to hold their hand when they pee-pee.

Americans used to support freedom, but they have now morphed into Nazis and Communists. Americans will easily go to the gulags because Fascists think the police state only affects Commies and Communists believe tyranny targets Nazis.

Conservatives tend to support small government, be moral, go to church, be responsible, be independent, and oppose killing unborn children. Conservatives generally dislike alcohol, drugs, premarital sex, and minorities.

Liberals often favor science and Socialism and are impulsive. Leftists are more likely to support welfare, drinking, drug use, homosexuality, and open borders.

Since Americans tolerate debt, wars, nanny state laws, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, offshoring, homosexuality, increasing taxes, illegal immigrants, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, searches without warrants, mandatory minimums, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, private prisons, FOSTA, TSA groping, and Jade Helm then what is to stop the elites from sending the 99% to the concentration camps?

The US has crossed every line.

Life has become unbearable. Who wants to live in a prison? Hard work is punished with taxes and regulations, jobs have been offshored, illegal immigrants are flooding the country, and laziness is rewarded with welfare.

Wake the fuck up.
>> No. 118451 ID: 95b638
Ah right, I forgot this is 2018 and rational thought no longer exists on this board.
>> No. 118452 ID: 66bcae
>>118451
>rational thought no longer exists on this board.
if people don't agree with your big government nanny state bullshit its not because they're irrational, its because you are. next time keep your hysterical helen lovejoy antics to yourself.
>> No. 118453 ID: 3e748b
Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty.
>> No. 118459 ID: 02cdbc
>>118449
Modern Democracy is a fucking sham, and every multi ethnic/multi cultural state moves towards Authoritarianism to maintain public order and stability
>> No. 118464 ID: 1718b2
Americans seem to have forgotten their history and have tunnel vision about the past.

Conservatives think the US never had black people before today.

Liberals think the US always had food stamps.

Americans insist everybody worked for free when there was no minimum wage.

Americans think the USA always had TSA groping.

Americans say everyone died when there were no seatbelt laws.

Americans believe North Korea is successful because they have closed borders.

Americans think either that the USA is the country with the most freedom in the world or think that the US was always a police state.
>> No. 118465 ID: e35b40
>>118464
>Americans believe North Korea is successful because they have closed borders.
No they don't. Americans understand that North Korea is a shithole.
>> No. 118467 ID: 170046
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/almost-two-thirds-of-americans-support-tariffs-on-china-poll


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