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6932 No. 6932 ID: a6b004
Alright, so my POS laptop that I've been nursing along for two years now has decided that it doesn't want to work charge unless I'm physically holding the cord at just the right angle, with just the right force. Which kinda precludes all two-handed activities like gaming and typing, and frankly, even browsing the internet is a pain in the ass when I have to deathgrip the computer to make it work.

Time for a new one, although I really didn't want to spend the money on one right now.

Yes, I know it's cheaper to build a new one, but not by much, and I don't have the know-how to do it, so unless someone in PDX wants to help out with that, I'm stuck buying one from a box store.

I have one damn standard for a new computer: It has to run STALKER. Well, and Supreme Commander, but that doesn't have the hardware requirements that STALKER does. So I've been looking up technical specs on the cheap desktops ~$500-$700 at Best Buy, and none of them come near the 4.2 gigahertz processor that STALKER wants, but some of them have quad-core processors.

I haven't worked with a computer's guts since 2001, so I've missed a few things. Would something like this work?: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-desktop-8gb-memory-2tb-hard-drive-black/5814032.p?id=1219194065876&skuId=5814032

I'll pick up monitors off craigslist or from a pawn shop or something, but I don't want to deal with another second-hand computer. This one was new, but a lemon, and I would LOOOOOVE to have the warranty, but don't. C'est la vie, and I try to learn from my mistakes.
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>> No. 6933 ID: d4df2e
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Don't buy a desktop. Build one.

If you can play with Erectionor Sets and Legos/square peg in square hole, then you have the major skillset that you need. It does not take a rocket scientist, or a brain surgeon, or an anesthesiologist. Fuck, as long as you have at least the IQ of a DMV worker or a cop, then you can do it.

Use this as a guide:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

The guy uses referrer links so he can get paid. Your choice whether to follow them or not.

This is also useful:
http://pcpartpicker.com/

Oh, and fixing the laptop is an option. You need to open it up. Once you get to the power port, it will either be a female port with a cable going to another board or it will be a female port soldered directly on the board. My guess is the former because the latter can break off and leave you fucked. Companies realized this and spent the extra 2 cents to use a cable.

Anyways, the port is usually held in there by ABS corners or part of the frame. These often break and leave the port way deeper in the case than it should be. You can use hot glue or something else non-conductive to get it affixed back into place.

Assuming that is not the problem and the connector is actually fucked, you can probably take it out and replace it or try to use some small tools to get it in a proper position so the connection is made.

If you want the ultra lazy method, you can solder the power cable to the board. I know someone who has done that. I was tempted to do the same, but I ended up repairing it. If you post some pics, I might be able to guide you.
>> No. 6934 ID: 9899f2
>>6932
Shadow of Chernobyl will run on a potato. (Trust me, I completed it on a 2007-era laptop)

Also where are you coming up with this 4.2 GHz number? Call of Pripyat wants a 2.6 GHz intel dual core.

Pretty much anything, 'poor' class or above, on pcpartpicker will handle it just fine.


Also, if you wanna take a trip out to Arizona, me and the shitbirds would gladly help you with it. And we'll even keep serv away from it for a small fee :D
>> No. 6935 ID: 06970f
>>6933
>Don't buy a desktop. Build one.

This. You don't buy a completed lower if you can help it and you don't buy a completed pre-built desktop if you can help it. Whatever you do, save yourself some money and build your own.

As someone that recently built their own gaming rig (http://www.operatorchan.org/stem/res/6711.html) and hadn't worked on PCs since about 2006/2007 before that, let me tell you that it's gotten even easier than it was. And, if you get stuck, there so many tutorials and guides that you can go to for help that it's really trivial.

>>6932
For $500 you can get an overpriced slapped together desktop that may-or-may-not have sub-par construction and/or shoddy low-bid components, or you could build your own and... $500 will get you a REALLY decent gaming PC.

Until I did my own build last month, I never had a really decent PC. Now I have one capable of playing virtually any game on the market. That cost me $900 and I went a tad overboard with it. The good thing is that video cards have become insanely powerful and are getting cheaper than ever before. So for $500, you can roll your own and have something that could probably play almost any game out there (albeit maybe at lower settings).
>> No. 6936 ID: 06970f
>>6932
>Yes, I know it's cheaper to build a new one, but not by much, and I don't have the know-how to do it, so unless someone in PDX wants to help out with that, I'm stuck buying one from a box store.

Also, if you live anywhere near other operators, I'm sure we'd gladly help you build it.

But, trust me, it's pretty easy. As I said, I hadn't touched PC components in years and it's actually gotten easier than I remember it.

The most important part is making sure you have quality and compatible components. And with resources like >>6933, it's pretty easy to do so.

I used pcparkpicker for all of my build and it would let me know if parts weren't compatible and even let me know where it was cheapest.
>> No. 6937 ID: 9093a8
Building a PC is basically that in name only, it's actually Lego assembly in real life.
Lots of groups and sites put together builds at different price levels every season or so to aid with the compatibility problem for people who don't follow tech shit closely. TekSyndicate is one such group.


Additionally, Supreme Commander is fantastic. Total Annihilation is to this very day one of my favourite games of all time and is the first game that really grabbed my attention as a child.
>> No. 6938 ID: b1487e
>>6932

>PDX

You're in Portland now?

> 4.2 gigahertz

Doesn't exist. Processors basically topped out at 3.5 ghz and have been adding more cores and pipeline-ing to compensate.

Here's the system requirements for Battlefield 4. The other thing to remember is that your computer just needs to be as good as an Xbox One or PS4, since all of the games will be designed for that.

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4/pc

PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

Minimum requirements:

OS
WINDOWS VISTA SP2 32-BIT (WITH KB971512 PLATFORM UPDATE)
PROCESSOR
AMD ATHLON X2 2.8 GHZ
INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.4 GHZ
MEMORY
4 GB
GRAPHICS CARD
AMD RADEON HD 3870
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800 GT
GRAPHICS MEMORY
512 MB
HARD DRIVE
30 GB

Recommended requirements:

OS
WINDOWS 8 64-BIT
PROCESSOR
AMD SIX-CORE CPU
INTEL QUAD-CORE CPU
MEMORY
8 GB
GRAPHICS CARD
AMD RADEON HD 7870
NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660
GRAPHICS MEMORY
3 GB
HARD DRIVE
30 GB
>> No. 6939 ID: ca3240
>>6932
I know it's not the advice you asked for, but I can't, in good conscience, give a thumbs up to a big box desktop.

They are always full of lowest-bidder, questionable quality parts, and come loaded with enough bloatware to make your CPU sweat in fear.

Even if system building isn't a skill in your toolkit, it should be, and there's only one way to do that. Just jump in and give it a go. You'll be glad you did.
>> No. 6940 ID: a6b004
>>6933
>Oh, and fixing the laptop is an option. You need to open it up.
I tried that, couldn't find the problem. It's not a broken connection that I can solder, I looked for that.

I'm good with screwing parts together (I'm a mechanic), not so much with software. Past inserting a disk, I'm just not up on the latest, and there's way more shit on my current laptop than I even know how to use.

Logical increments is very helpful, that'll be a good place to start, same with partpicker.

I'll do some research and look around, and report back.

Would the "modest" setup on partpicker be able to support a second monitor that's just playing a movie? Not having a TV, I have to watch movies on my comp, so having a second monitor would mean I could, in theory, actually do things at the same time. In theory.

>>6934
4.2 comes from the wiki page, might mean a "max graphics" requirement.

>>6937
I *still* play TA, one of the reasons I want a better comp is so that after playing TA since high school, I can play the next game in the series. :)
>> No. 6941 ID: a6b004
>>6938
>4.2 ghz doesn't exist
Fukkin' wikipedia assholes be screwing with shit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl

Yeah, I'm in Portland now.

>>6939
Fuck it, might as well learn something new.
>> No. 6942 ID: d4df2e
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>>6940
>It's not a broken connection that I can solder, I looked for that.
Then it might be one of the contacts in the jack. Not sure what to do unless I get some pics or see it for myself.

>Would the "modest" setup on partpicker be able to support a second monitor that's just playing a movie? Not having a TV, I have to watch movies on my comp, so having a second monitor would mean I could, in theory, actually do things at the same time. In theory.
The card selected has 2 DVI-D dual link ports, 1 DisplayPort, and 1 HDMI port. You most certainly can setup another monitor to watch Stalker while you play S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

I am not certain how well it will run (which will depend on your display settings, the quality of the movie you're watching, how many FPS you're willing to live with, et cetera).

But yes, it is in the realm of possibility.
>> No. 6943 ID: 1c9de7
>>6941
>>6941
Oh, OH, I see where you got fucked up in the brain compartments and departments.

That's the 'performance rating,' which I believe AMD uses to compare their processors to a piece of damp celery.

It basically means you need a midrange 2005 tier processor. Anything today will be more than sufficient. Well, anything except maybe the Atom. But, yeah, any modern multi core processor will do.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mq4q99
Here, I threw a bunch of darts at a wall to see what stuck, and this is what I came up with. Whether you want to go Intel or AMD, 'onboard' graphics or a separate card, etc, is up to you (and others ITT with more sense than me), but whatever you do, don't cheap out on the power supply. As for a cpu cooler, the cooler master 212 is damn good, I've been using one for a year and a half without issue, and I know a few other operators swear by it, too.


>>6938
>4.2 GHz doesn't exist

AMD has a 5 GHz octocore processor, as of last year. decent desktop processors nowadays are in the 3 to 4.5 GHz range. (Hell, my lowest of the low FX4100 sits happily at 3.9)
>> No. 6944 ID: 1c9de7
>>6941
Oh, yeah, forgot: that processor mentioned in the Wikipedia article is a 2.2 GHz model, from several generations ago.
>> No. 6945 ID: a6b004
>>6942
I don't mean playing a high-res game while watching a ripped blu-ray off the HD, but more like "netflix is going while I'm typing away at a PBE story or reading blogs". I'm not OPERATOR enough to play STALKER and watch a movie at the same time.

>>6943
My other big question, then is how do I OS? I'm pretty sure parts off the internet do not come pre-loaded with software that I need, and honestly, this is the big hiccup for me.
>> No. 6946 ID: 555a6d
I used PCpartspicker and built a machine for $1500.. which I'm not gonna post. I always spend ~$1000 on my core upgrades (CPU, mobo, RAM, video) getting the 1 or 2 steps down from the top of the line stuff, like a Nvidia GTX 770 instead of the 780. I've always blown the bank on computers, even when I worked shit jobs. Right now I'm using an Asus G750JM laptop ($1300), to which I immediately added a Intel 730 Solid State Disk. Solid State Disks (SSDs) are the best thing to happen to computers since multi-core processors, and much for the same reason. You can do multiple things at the same time.

>>6941
> Intel Pentium 4 2 GHz
> Not, 4.2 GHz

I can see where you might get confused. "Pentium 4" is the name of the processor. "2 GHz" is the speed.

For building a new machine, I just order my shit off Newegg.com, and I've always gone with Intel processors. I've owned 8 or so since 1989, and have never had one fail.

Failures, in order: Video cards, power supplies, motherboards, RAM sticks. Never an Intel processor. I've smoked about half of the video cards I've owned.

For brands, I've had good luck with...

Processor: Intel
RAM: Corsair, Crucial, G-Skillz
Mobo: Gigabyte, though one just failed me. Just installed a MSI board which seems ok. Intel boards are gud.
Video cards: Nvidia Geforce cards. Gigabyte and PNY.
Power supplies: Antec, Rosewill (Newegg's house brand)

>>6943
Hmm. First processor on newegg is a 4.0 ghz. Nice.
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>>6945
>I don't mean playing a high-res game while watching a ripped blu-ray off the HD, but more like "netflix is going while I'm typing away at a PBE story or reading blogs". I'm not OPERATOR enough to play STALKER and watch a movie at the same time.
Then yes. Absolutely. Hell, I can do that with my Toshitba craptop.

>>6945
>My other big question, then is how do I OS? I'm pretty sure parts off the internet do not come pre-loaded with software that I need, and honestly, this is the big hiccup for me.
What do you want to run? If Loonix, then I can guide you. If Hackintosh (why.jpg), then I can't help you on that. If Windoze, then you just install it and grab the drivers needed for your stuff. Most stuff today is automagical and requires very little thought into doing.
>> No. 6948 ID: a6b004
>>6947
Windoze. I see no real benefit for a complete casual such as myself in spending the time to learn linux.

Seems like good news all around.
>> No. 6949 ID: 06970f
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>>6943
>As for a cpu cooler, the cooler master 212 is damn good

Sweet Jesus, yes. If your case can fit it, use it. It delivers near water cooling temps with air cooling while being cheap and quiet as fuck.

Would also recommend perhaps going up to 8 gigs of ram on that build. Unlikely Soren will need it for gaming, but for multitasking it's pretty useful. Then again, the great thing about ram is you don't need it all right now. You can simply buy more at a later period.

>>6945
>I don't mean playing a high-res game while watching a ripped blu-ray off the HD, but more like "netflix is going while I'm typing away at a PBE story or reading blogs". I'm not OPERATOR enough to play STALKER and watch a movie at the same time.

Not a problem. Hell, you could probably scratch together an entire build for under a c-note from scavenged parts ans swap meets that will do this.

The great thing is that computer components are getting more and more powerful and cheaper. STALKER can run on a potato and Supreme Commander you could run fully maxed out at the highest resolution while having a Blu-Ray movie playing on a second screen while you're mining Bitcoins and processing a video you've edited.

I'm now slowly coming to terms with just what a decent PC is capable of. It's rather weird to look at every game on Steam and not having to even look at the system requirements because I know I can play it and can max out the settings in about 90% of said games.

Speaking of which, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes looks fucking amazing. I mean... I was shocked by how good it looked. MGS V: Phantom Pain is going to be a day-fucking-one buy for me.
>> No. 6950 ID: 00dc8a
>>6948
> how does I OS?

Ok Soren this is highly technical and hard to follow so pay attention.

Step one: get Windows 7 pro

Step two: put disc in drive

Step three: boot computer

Step four: select hard drive you want to install to

Step five: enter time zone settings

Step six: enter license key

Step seven: use Windows update to install drivers

Step eight: use Ninite to install basic applications

Step nine: there is no step nine
>> No. 6951 ID: 894961
>>6950
Many GNU/Linux distros are even more simpler to install than that.
>> No. 6952 ID: de0bec
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>>6948
I understand that feeling.

I'd love to get away from windows, and while linux distros have come a long way, if I wanted to do what I currently do in linux I'd basically have to spend weeks fucking around with wine with no guarantee of shit even working, learn scripting, and just spend months figuring out how to fucking do what I need pieces at a time.

And I'm getting too old and busy for that shit. If all I needed to do was shitpost on opchan and send some emails, linux would be great.
>> No. 6953 ID: d4df2e
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>>6952
Sorry, but I gotta bust some myths and confirm some here:
>I'd basically have to spend weeks fucking around with wine with no guarantee of shit even working
This. WINE is a crapshoot. Check https://appdb.winehq.org/ to know if stuff will run decently. And even then, you might need to do some winetricks.

Look for alternative software (there's a shitton) and see if they have native binaries (steam is pushing for it for games, so you got that covered) or grab the source for the program. Otherwise, you can run it in a VM if you like. Dual booting is an option, but cumbersome in certain circumstances.

If you're dependent on Windows stuff, a VM is your best choice until you're willing to try WINE.

>learn scripting
This is a very common myth and probably the most inaccurate. You do not need to know how to program or learn a scripting language to use most popular modern distros. It simply is not true that you need these prerequisites. Only in very very rare cases would you ever need to use the command line.

It's only common to see people post the commands because it's faster than guiding someone through a GUI (which has been a pain on EVERY operating system... as a guy who did IT for Windows 7/8 and OS X and Debian/Ubuntu, trust me, it's fucking irritating and I'm prone to just grab the computer or remote shell into it to get the damn job done rather than post a shitton of screenshots and risk them not reading my steps clearly).

>and just spend months figuring out how to fucking do what I need pieces at a time.
Depends on what you're doing. If you give more details, I can say whether it is hard or easy.
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i'll just leave this here

http://www.northkoreatech.org/2014/12/30/red-star-3-0-desktop-the-install/
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>>6953
You misunderstand. I am decently competent with computers (though not nearly as much as some here) and already made a serious effort to switch. I basically came to the realization that, for me, trying to use linux did not make sense from a timespent-benefitgained standpoint. Fucking around with an OS was fine for me as a teenager, but I have other things I need/want to spend my time on now.

And I really would need to learn scripting. I'm not going to go into the various things I need to do, to save you the effort of trying to coming up with inadequate alternative solutions that I have already decided against and am not going to use.

I don't intend this as a knock against you, or linux in general. Should I have kids I would very much prefer that they be familiar with it. Had I grown up with using linux based systems instead of windows, I likely wouldn't would be having this conversation now. I do have linux mint on my backup computer though. It's fairly nice to use.

One thing I am keeping an eye on is cool shit like this:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=112013
Need compatible hardware though.
>> No. 7001 ID: 1e7925
  >>6932
>> I don't have the know-how to do it,

I didn't know either, having not done any PC building since about the same time you mentioned. A number of youtube videos later and it's way easier than it was back in those days.

I like this guy, learned alot from him.
>> No. 7022 ID: 8dda95
>>7021
Ehhh.

It's like this: gotta pay off the move first, which will happen with the next paycheck.

Then I'm going to order parts. So it'll be like two weeks before I order parts, BUT I'll have more to spend overall, about $800. Unless registering a 2005 car turns out to be retardedly expensive, because that's happening this week.

Meanwhile, I'm getting through life on my ebook reader, and enjoying all the time I'm spending reading. Mandatory facebook/youtube/news website detox has been good, it's been a fun vacation from all the bullshit.

SOON! fellow STALKERS.
>> No. 7163 ID: b89631
Late into the thread, but have you tried replacing the jack in your laptop yet? I had the same problem and I just bought a new jack for 20 bucks and stuck it in, everything ran fine.

If thats not the case and you just want to run stalker, get a Thinkpad T420/X220 on ebay. Theyre like 200 bucks, are very easily user-servicable, and they'll get the job done. Fuck, I can play Far Cry 3 with my X220. Get an SSD and max out the ram when you can afford it and you'll be flying.

Coincidentally, I built a computer on a $150 budget a few years back which could play vanilla CoP and Assassins Creed with no issues. So you don't need to pay out the ass for just the basics is my point.

Buying new computer parts is fucking retarded IMO. Its not like they wear like cars or clothes, and they depreciate way faster too. You can lag a generation or two behind current and save 50-75% pretty easy by lurking ebay, and you're not really missing out on anything.

BTW, if you need a legit copy of Windows (8.1)/Office (2013), hit me up first.
>> No. 7164 ID: b89631
>>7163
Fuck never mind, didn't see the post date.
>> No. 7167 ID: bdc075
>unless I'm physically holding the cord at just the right angle, with just the right force.

cut it apart and solder it bro.
>> No. 7169 ID: 61b7d7
>>7163
I just took it to the repair shop when I lost my job two months ago. Cost me like $100 for the parts and labor, which sucked, but was better than not having a computer at all.

And now I'm moving again in two weeks, and for a temp job near Seattle, so I'm thinking that perhaps this is not a good time to build a new computer, since I need to be in full-on save money mode for the next six months.
>> No. 7174 ID: bdc075
>>7169
buy a $200 chrome book?
>> No. 7182 ID: b485d7
>>7174
I'll look into it.
>> No. 7188 ID: fa19eb
>>7182
Please don't. Don't get a Chromebook. Buy a cheap used or refurbished laptop for the same price or even less.
>> No. 7191 ID: 360825
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>>7188
This. Don't give in to the botnet.

Get an IBM X60 and call it a day. Hell, you can even install Coreboot and GNU+Linux on it.

Here's a decent set of guides for buying:
http://ktgee.net/guides
>> No. 7199 ID: b89631
>>7191
Speaking of X60s, I have a functioning one minus screen and disk you (Soren) can have for free. Course, fixing it up may be more expensive than a new one, but if you have a monitor and ethernet cable, it does the job. I'd have to dick around and look for the disk for it, though.
>> No. 7220 ID: 75e58e
I've been using my chromebook as a laptop replacement and love it. Light weight, can still SSH into webservers, it fills my online forums, long battery life, light enough to be forgotten about, can just remote into my desktop if needed.

It's p awesome. It's basically a tablet with a keyboard.

I got drunk and smashed the screen. $25 later fixed.
>> No. 7221 ID: 8927f2
You're an aviation mechanic.

Building a computer is easy. There is literally nothing to it, and I could talk you through doing it over the phone. It's retardo-simple.

If you can replace a piston in an engine and run wiring/hook up a cockpit cluster, then building a PC is well within your purview regardless of experience doing it.




There are cheaper options, but I threw together something that's close to how I roll with what I am using right now.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/43GqMp + $200 buying Frankengun's dual GTX 760's = $1200 + monitors. Expand your data holdings w/ extra hard drives down the road as you collect religious texts and pictures.

When you decide to OC the system at some point, switch to an all-in-one watercooler. I use the H100i GTX from corsair and it works gloriously. The 212 wouldn't really work well with a 4.4 ghz OC on the processor. Had thermal issues. I'm also in the desert with crappy air conditioning so that's probably a factor as well, but all said and done I am extremely pleased with the AIO watercooler. it dun goot.

I also have a Fractal Design Define R5 case, since I keep the box in a hole in my desk and a black monolithic design is acceptable considering the system's not "out in view" so windows and other asthetic crap are a non-factor.

Right now, with dual 4gb 760's I get >60 FPS playing MWO, STO, 100+ on Borderlands 2, bla bla bla. It works fine. Oh, and that's playing at 5760x1080 resolution IE Nvidia Surround w/ my 3 monitors.
>> No. 7222 ID: 8927f2
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>>7221

This is what my system looks like now.

2 140mm intake fans at the front, 2 at the bottom, CPU intake at bottom, and AIO watercooler intaking from the top. All exhaust is out the back. The only "disadvantage" I have right now is that with SLI and not using the card-side panel fan port, my top video card runs 20c hotter than the bottom one just due to thermals and airflow. I could probably fix it if I confuckulated up some ducting that directly fed each of the bottom intake fans towards an individual video card, but I haven't bothered to do that... yet. Haven't had any issues otherwise, though.

The HD on that part picker list is one of the fastest on the market today. Same one I use, and 240gb is more than enough space for actual programs that would "need the speed", ie OS and games. Anything that doesn't need it, gets installed to a 1tb drive I have. I have 2 2tb drives in a mirrored array which is the LAN shared drive/Plex media server hosting drive. Plex lets the family watch all the movies we own that I have ripped to .mkv on either of the Roku's we have in the house, or other sources as well. Plus it consolidates all the rest of our data.

I'll probably end up doing another RAID 5 array at some point with larger drives once I fill up the 2tb array, but right now I've got 1.5 TB free there and 900GB free on my "personal" 1tb drive. Plenty of room, for now.

I have Win7 Pro, 7 days to die, STO, MechWarrior Online, Borderlands 2, H1Z1, and some other various educational games for the kid to play installed on the SSD and it's got over 100GB free right now... so there's still room to grow.

Boot speed is fast as shit but that's not a huge factor for me, since the system rarely powers down. Still quiet under normal operation as well. Now if I turn the CPU cooler up full blast.....then shit gets loud. I work/game with a headset on 90% of the time so it's not an issue for me, but even on balanced things stay quiet... and if you yearn for silence, swap out the fans. The controller for the AIO cooler will take others than shipped, so you can adjust accordingly.
>> No. 7223 ID: cd4a7e
>>7222
>7dtd

My nigga!
>> No. 7226 ID: f2c4ed
>>7221
It's not the physical aspects of putting parts together that bothered me, it was the technical aspects of compatability and software. Which is apparently quite easy, according to the various posters in this thread.

That said, since >>7163 I've totalled a car and bought a semi-beater SUV that's a rolling project (I can drive it daily, and do my own work, but it does need work), and moved. My rig was full on the move here, so until I'm trailer-born, I'm very, very tight on the total volume of possessions I can have with me.

I don't mean to shit on your advice or anything, and I'm thankful for it, but a computer is just not on my priorities list right now. I'm going to consider this thread closed.
>> No. 7227 ID: 8927f2
>>7226

No point in that, planning and discussion lets you figure out the best path for your overall intended use once all other variables are accounted for.
>> No. 7230 ID: b52eac
>>7226
Once you are sorted and have the space, give me a call. I have some computer guts literally sitting around taking up space that may be available for the taking.
>> No. 7455 ID: f197c2
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7455
Kinda late to the party here, but:

>>7226
> It's not the physical aspects of putting parts together that bothered me, it was the technical aspects of compatability and software. Which is apparently quite easy, according to the various posters in this thread.

Like others have said, I would highly recommend http://pcpartpicker.com/ for ensuring compatibility. I used it when I was working on my current build (pic related).
>> No. 7472 ID: 2f01dc
Might be a useful link, I'm not 100% sure on prices
https://goo.gl/EQPev1
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