Can we not have /t/ become the new /n/? Sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere, but it seems like people are just taking the stories they would have submitted to /n/ before the rule change, and submitting them to /t/ instead.
Sooo... any update on what you guys are thinking about this?
This kind of material would only ruin /dmz/.
Perhaps the solution can be a /dmn/ board, which would be an unrestricted news space.
All good ideas, we'll have a plan of action to present around the time of the one year anniversary, so in the mean time, be patient and trust that we are aware of and working on the issue, no joke.
Also, where's our State of the Chan address?
Expect it in the next couple of days.
>article posted right/wrong/otherwise
>title gets yelled at by people
>balci ## Mod ## 13/02/11(Mon)23:07 No. 57628 ID: be4bd8
>In the future, don't intentionally post misleading titles.
>mfw it was a copy/paste from the website title
>mfw it wasn't misleading anyway
>mfw two religion shitshow threads on /n/ don't get locked but this is
It was misleading, and copy-pasting it from the site that posted it isn't an excuse for a lack of critical thinking.
I read the article and that's an exact quote from Biden. How is that misleading?
>“To be very blunt with you, we’re counting on all of you, the legitimate news media to cover these discussions because the truth is that times have changed,” Biden added, warning that people would continue to “misrepresent” the White House's plans for gun control.
Is the exact quote.
>Biden: We’re counting on ‘legitimate media’ for successful gun control effort
Is what was made of it.
A lot of people that are hostile to Biden would misinterpret the title as is.
Either way, the thread is unlocked, so please get back to your regular programming.
It looks like /s/ is filling up with gear threads, about knives, backpacks, phones, etc. If it was specifically gear for game dressing or cooking, or survival kits, that would be OK I guess, but it leads to duplication with perfectly fine /g/ threads.
I didn't feel like reporting a whole heap of threads at once, so I made this thread instead. Could somebody have a look through /s/ and move/merge some threads into /g/?
The question is, where do you draw the line?
/s/urvivalists likely wouldn't like the fact that all gear related threads were moved. Gear is inherently an important part of survival.
Why not merge the boards?
Easier browsing and more traffic. Merging /st/ and /k/ would probably be beneficial as well for similar reasons. /k/ is slower than a constipated Irishman's unicycle these days.
I'd draw the line on threads about gear, rather than the act of surviving, hunting and cooking. Weapons could be used for hunting, so one could argue that /k/, /st/, /s/ and /g/ should be merged into one great mass of guns, gear and innawoods threads, but I wouldn't like that.
The biggest problem is the duplication though. If the mods want a gear thread to stay in /s/ maybe they could merge the /g/ thread into it? Does the board software even support that?
I think this would stave off threads from /t/ and /n/. At the least, it'd be nice to have as a temporary board.
What's your email? There's something I want to talk to you about.
Has the staff considered making this if the board traffic continues to increase faster than the other boards? It would certainly stem off traffic from /dmz/, which wouldn't have to become a porn board.
Oh no gooey, i totally agree with you, but yea, cannot exactly say anyone is in the wrong here.
I think Balci is in the wrong.
"No moderation" does not mean "Moderator can go on a power trip over his own little petty, personal grudges."
Lolnorules means lolnorules, ain't saying i agree with his call or disagree with his call, but that is the nature of /dmz/ and what you accept by posting there.
Also 1gooey, let it stand that you're one of my favorite posters in /dmz/ and i don't even know why.
end of rine.
Ordinary users do not have the ability to just ban people over whatever they want, though. Don't like a thread? You hide it. A mod deleting a thread gets rid of it for everybody.
Balci is not an ordinary user, he is a Moderator and member of staff, and if he were to delete a thread on a board that is not /dmz/ without good reason, we'd be having a much different conversation.
The sticky in /dmz/ says in no uncertain terms that /dmz/ is a no mans land, and thus there are no rules for moderation or content. But, I will ask balci to abstain from vendetta deletions as a favor but not as a demand, because he did not break any moderation guidelines. That being said, /dmz/ is and will remain rule-less in regards to moderation and content.
Just got a bunch of minimum post delay errors on /k/. I did eventually get the post to go through, but I'm pretty certain I haven't posted on /k/ since last night. May want to look into that.
Very good, Now I'm having difficulty interacting with embedded Youtube videos, when I click on them to adjust volume or whatever it causes them to reload. I'm using an unfamiliar computer though so I can't be certain the problem is on your end.
It's a problem with Chrome. Type chrome://plugins/ into the address bar, and disable any Flash Player application with "pepper" in the location. If there is no other Flash Player application listed, download it from the Adobe website. The website will say you already have it installed. Ignore that.
Done, problem solved. Danke schon comrade.
It is kind of a pain in the dick.
That error should be fixed in the update I just deployed. (it was related to an earlier implementation to lower damage that forum raids could do)
The error shouldn't surface anymore unless you're obviously spamming the creation of new threads or posts.
On attempts to make online communities last and retain most valuable members:
I suggest that the dev team (hai Godverdomme!) read this over - it's an article that outlines the points of failure and drawbacks of online communities: upvotes and downvotes, dillution of content with time and those that game the system to promote their views and deny others. It's a good summary of the conclusions that I have reached after a couple "tours of duty" online and it's something I see other "Internet veterans" agree with.
The most interesting part is the conclusion that the author draws, how he started to rely on social networks of knowledgeable sources for information, rather then ready-made aggregates. Now, could an imageboard with a high tripfag count benefit from social network functionality? Read on...
>A better way forward?
>A big part of the reason I don't use social news anymore is that my existing social networks have become so much more effective at turning up good content. The absolute best source of news for me is simply the set of links shared by the folks I follow on Twitter. I follow people who post interesting content, and whom I trust to act as information filters for me. Most of them share my technical interests, but some are interesting because they are from my home town, or because they share some more esoteric pursuit with me. So, the news stream I see is exactly tailored to me. At the same time, there is also room ideosyncrasy - if someone I follow shares something left-field that tickles their fancy, I'll see it. In turn, I try to be a responsible information filter for those who follow me - I find a link or two worth tweeting on most days.
>There are still things I miss - Twitter is great for sharing links, but is an awful medium for technical discussion. Google+ could be a better alternative, but just doesn't seem to have achieved liftoff for me. I would also love better tools for aggregating and harvesting links from my social network. At the moment I use Flipboard and Prismatic, but I have issues with both. On the whole, though, these are quibbles. It seems to me that using social networks to filter news is a better way forward - if I was tackling the social news problem, I'd be building tools to support this process.
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>dev team (hai Godverdomme!)
I wish there was such a thing as a dev team for OPchan.
I'm just a sysadmin really and php is not my bad, baby. So aside from bare necessities, I try to stay away from modifying code to prevent fuckups & instability.
Furthermore I'm sad to report that OPchan has almost no active codemonkeys atm, so if you or friends wish to contribute, you'd be more than welcome to.
>it's an article that outlines the points of failure and drawbacks of online communities
"Social" crap is never something that actually mattered to me. Hell, I'm barely part of any social networks either. I'm a Neanderthal in a time of Homo Sapiens. My news sources are OPchan, a few forums, a very small number of selected blogs and a few youtube subscriptions. That's enough for me. I'm unlikely to miss any significant firearms news for instance.
(Of course I read newspapers and watch the news from time to time as well)
I agree with the article that many online communities struggle with stagnation and eventual collapse. This is evident & very common, especially after a period of rapid growth. It's in part why we've largely chosen that under the new "administration", OPchan would settle for slow controlled growth without external mass publicity. Obviously the idea is to propagate OPchan by word of mouth from members and so on, but we've stayed away from open recruitment on other chans and forums, as we feel this creates negative opinions and brings in quite a lot of shit posters. Sure, some good posters can come over too, but the danger outweighs the benefits in my eyes. Either way, our current heading has cause small but steady growth which suffices for us for now. Some will obviously argue it's not enough, and they're welcome to this opinion.
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Why isn't criticizing libertarian jesus permitted on opchan?
Does it make the users here chimp out or something?
Well, normally you guys just chime in out of nowhere with a blanket insult to anyone who voted Johnson or liked Paul.
no its just that people of your ilk get titanically irate whenever someone doesn't like what you like.
Yeah, no. I call ron paul out on being fucking awful and libertarians out as being idiots on a regular basis.
Never been banned for it. Maybe you should learn to do these things WITHOUT shitposting?
See what I mean?
Well someone a few months ago got banned for posting a thread with verified sources saying that Gary Johnson was stealing money from his campaign.
I dont really care anymore though, the election is over and they both lost anyways.
Ban them, please. I'm sick of the blogging and "look at these idiots on facebook!" pictures.
We've already addressed this issue, but to reiterate, FB posts and "blogs" are not against the rules, but we'd prefer they be kept to a minimum. We'll have a staff discussion on the issue and see if we think any changes need to happen.
A single sticky for it in /dmz/ (or /t/, but fuck /t/ stickies) might be smart.
give it a place to go and make it bannable elsewhere so it'll fuck off to where we don't HAVE to see it. Fewer bans overall, because that shit won't stop if it becomes banworthy with no place to go, and it gets it off the main boards.