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110532 No. 110532 ID: 7b8204
You wake up one day and find out that handguns are now banned in America. The Supreme Court has reversed its earlier precedent and upheld the ban. You have 30 days to turn in all your handguns. If you do not and you are found out, you will be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
>I can just keep them in secret
You can, but if you ever use a handgun in self defense and call the police, they'll know you had a handgun, and that means prison for you.
>revolution
There are not enough people willing to fight a revolution. Most of the people are too complacent to do anything about the government.
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>> No. 110533 ID: aad4ac
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Black powder weapons are typically exempt from most gun laws in the US. Do I get to keep my dueling pistols?
>> No. 110535 ID: aadd02
Honestly? Surrender my handguns, then lobby actively and passionately to retract the ban. I'd keep my buck knife handy as I've done for years before my CCW. Probably get a long gun again, finally. In the event of widespread and prolonged civil unrest, get a black market pistol or make one.
>> No. 110551 ID: 6d8591
GOV: If I pulled off those guns, would it hurt?

USA: It would be very painful.

GOV: You're a big country.

USA: For you.
>> No. 110552 ID: 6ca38e
I'd SBR all my pistols.

I mean, if we're living in a fantasy world like you describe, I'll fantasize that I can have all my handguns form 1'd to SBRs within 30 days.
>> No. 110554 ID: 13f512
only handguns? I'd boat accident them and watch with glee as the crime rate in cities skyrockets.

>>110552

Also this.
>> No. 110555 ID: fbfadf
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>>110554
>and watch with glee as the crime rate in cities skyrockets.
I don't think the rate of gun ownership is as influential on overall crime rates as either side of the gun rights argument insists it is. Economics seems to be the biggest factor in crime trends. However, a gun can have a profound influence on the most important crime statistic: the rate of crimes that happen to me. All things being equal, I'll keep my pistol, thank you very much.
However again, one could look at gun control another way, as a mere step towards larger collectivism and the subjugation of the personal will to the "greater good". Such regimes tend toward economic conditions that can increase crime. Graph related.
>> No. 110556 ID: 5c87e8
>>110555
cars substantially increase crime. not only are they fun to steal, but niggers can rob a lot more people driving around in cars shooting them than they could riding horses and stabbing people.
also global warming is real
ban guns and cars
>> No. 110557 ID: fbfadf
>>110556
>The thing you said is the opposite of the thing you said
I literally said "I'll keep my pistol, thank you very much." I am very pro-gun. I just don't want Perro Salchicha de Yedi to be disappointed when his anticipated crime wave is slow in coming.
>> No. 110558 ID: 3e9aae
>>110556
buggy whip manufacturer spotted
>> No. 110560 ID: 13f512
>>110555

If guns are illegal only criminals will have guns. Crime would increase by definition since there would be no way to legally possess a handgun.
>> No. 110561 ID: 278cbe
>>110560
Guns are going to be illegal for cops too?
>> No. 110572 ID: fbfadf
  >>110560
Huh. No arguing with that.

>>110561
You know what he means.
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>>110572
>You know what he means
Not exactly. Not really sure what that means. Maybe that means that cops will have no guns, then how they are going to control guns? Maybe cops are going to be criminals too, or there will be no cops. But if there's no cops, who is going to control guns?
>> No. 110584 ID: 13f512
>>110577

If you aren't being willfully dense, making the possession of a handgun a crime in itself would necessarily make criminals of anyone possessing a handgun. Not everyone is going to turn them in. Look at NYS where compliance with some of the provisions of the SAFE act is extremely spotty.
>> No. 110595 ID: 278cbe
>>110584
>making the possession of a handgun a crime in itself would necessarily make criminals of anyone possessing a handgun
Not anyone, since there's a number of cases that absolutely necessary for their well-being (professional, duty-related, and similar). Which is not actually that common in modern civilization since most of the time the issue of self-defence is regulated through different branches of law rather then direct threat of force. That is why it is usually written as "illegal possession of a weapon" (incidentally, it can include other things like knifes and bows).

>Not everyone is going to turn them in.
Of course, this is why a number of careful approaches are always taken.
1. Everybody who turns them in is automatically void of crime.
2. Those who control guns aren't required to, nor they will be punished for having one - but only in a legal way.
3. Measures have to be instantiated gradually to avoid unnecessary tensions.
4. etc, etc

When everybody is actually permitted to have a gun, that means that ALL criminals would have them (unless they exhibit some specific cunning behaviour) and all of them will be ready to use them on first opportunity. Meanwhile, while if they are illegal, only handful will risk exposing gun in some situation. It is not about relieving people of their rights (since laws are supposed to be more or less equal for everyone), it is about simple math, if you have less guns in population then you will have less incidents with them.

Well, that is, in normal countries. For US, as far as I'm aware, every other news of gun laws only sparkle the
hectic buying, when the sales are dropping for some reason.
>> No. 110603 ID: f96b90
Guess I start to open carry a rifle everywhere I go.
>> No. 110604 ID: df12a0
>1. Everybody who turns them in is automatically void of crime.

Commit crime, turn in gun, absolved of crime? Awesome!

>2. Those who control guns aren't required to, nor they will be punished for having one - but only in a legal way.

But who watches the watchmen?

>3. Measures have to be instantiated gradually to avoid unnecessary tensions.

That's never been done, and the precedent is that it will never be done, so... Good luck with that.
>> No. 110605 ID: 848792
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Bury all my pistols innawoods, CC a small SBR.
>> No. 110607 ID: caaee1
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>>110605
If they are going to ban all pistols in this scenario, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives is probably not going to issue any approval or permits for short-barreled rifles (a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16″ or smaller than 26″ overall length) or machine-guns. Or probably not even tax stamps for suppressors or anything else restricted in the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934 or the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968. My black powder pistols are probably banned in this scenario as well.
>> No. 110608 ID: caaee1
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BCM Upper and Lower
Geissele SSA trigger group.
Gunfighter stock.
Steel CH with extended latch.
Ergo grip.
Lancer two-piece magwell.
Daniel Defense rail system.
LMT rear and front fixed iron sights.
Aimpoint T1 optic.
Tango down picatinny VFG.
Pressure switch
Surefire M620P Fury Scout Light Rail-Mountable LED WeaponLight
Surefire SOCOM 5.56 suppressor
Surefure 5.56 Muzzle Brake
Blue Force Gear Vickers Padded Sling https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_51/345370_.html&page=79
>> No. 110609 ID: caaee1
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People can really get into assembling these guns from kits, components and accessories. How much would something like this cost?
>> No. 110610 ID: caaee1
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Here's the M4gery showing her Surefire 5.56 muzzle brake.
>> No. 110611 ID: 385f49
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>>110604
>Commit crime, turn in gun, absolved of crime?
If the crime would be "having a gun" (you found it in a ditch) then it is exactly right. Circumstances do apply there, if you are caught and the evidence points that you possessed it for considerable time, you may as well be found guilty.

>But who watches the watchmen?
You have asked the ultimate question, better avoid doing that in the future.

>That's never been done, and the precedent is that it will never be done, so...
Inevitable things called that because they happen in the end, not in the beginning. Better luck next time.


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