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112938 No. 112938 ID: bbee29
Libtards in Canada have passed more gun control aimed directly at the already ridiculously and humiliatingly gagged and muzzled legal owners. I vehemently disagree with all forms of gun control so just the concept of the licensing system in Canada is repulsive, but it looks like my dream of eventually moving to the States might not be a dream anymore, but a necessity. Canada has been very hostile to gun owners for a long time, but now it really looks like it's gonna go full UK. Main issue beyond normally H1B Visa shenanigans is the bunches of guns that I don't really want to give up. You'd think it would be simple like sell them up here and buy new ones in the states, and normally that would be fine. The problem is that I literally have 3 firearms that don't exist in the USA. I do not want to part with these unicorns. There are quite a few more that are pretty damn hard to find in the States so re-buying them would be difficult and very expensive.

What do? Any of you lads know of ways to work something out with dealer samples or wizardry like that?

Thankfully, I do have some time. Right now, we aren't yet being rounded up and shot behind the horse cop shed. I just want to see what I need to sacrifice and what I can save, and how. There is an election coming up, so it's hard to tell how fast shit will go south for us. If the conservatives win, we might be ok for another few years, still, I'd rather explore these subjects sooner rather than later.

P.S. Thanks Frost for your ongoing help with this, just wanted to see if more heads would be better.
P.P.S. I can post my qualifications and experience if anyone might have contact with companies that might be interested in H1B'ing my maple butt.
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>> No. 112939 ID: e56201
I know it is possible to work out a deal with a company that imports firearms to get things into the US, but AFAIK it's pretty expensive. It might also depend on the specific guns, some things may just be not possible to import. If you google "companies that import firearms" several options com up. Here's an ATF page with some info, including this tidbit which could help you determine what it is possible to import.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/import-firearms-ammunition-and-defense-articles

>Remember: the barrel and overall length are not the only criteria used to determine the import status of the firearms. To meet the sporting criteria and qualify for importation under the law at section 925(d)(3): (1) rifles must meet requirements outlined in the 1989 and 1998 import studies; (2) shotguns must meet the criteria outlined in the 2012 Importability of Certain Shotguns Study; (3) pistols must have an overall length of 6 inches and achieve a minimum score of 75 points on ATF F 5330.5, Factoring Criteria for Weapons, and revolvers must have a minimum barrel length of 3 inches or more, pass the hammer drop safety test and achieve a minimum score of 45 points on ATF F 5330.5, Factoring Criteria for Weapons.
>> No. 112940 ID: bbee29
>>112939
Yep I know of the regular import requirements, but I also imagine that businesses often have to move stuff around between borders legally regardless of normal import regulations.
>> No. 112941 ID: bbee29
https://www.borderview.com/services/for-individuals/usa-firearm-import-service/

I'll probably be contacting these guys to get a better idea of what I'll need to do. Their costs are reasonable, all things considered.
>> No. 112942 ID: 3b871f
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Why is it that every shit on this planet feels like they're entitled and welcome to immigrate to America when their own homeland becomes inhospitable? Maybe we wouldn't have so many immigrants in American if we didn't facilitate this cut and run mentality and foreigners were willing to fight for their rights in their own country intstead of just say "imma going to America for free gibes" when the slightest sign of bad weather at home appears.
>> No. 112943 ID: bbee29
>>112942
>entitled
>a little bit of bad weather
The ship has already sunk. I don't feel particularly inclined to hit the bottom of the ocean with it if I don't have to.

You might want me to stay out, but I intend to move through the proper channels. I'll never ask for government hand-outs. I'll never be a parasite. I'll never vote for anyone that'll fuck shit up for the rest of you. I honor the values on the Constitution, pull my weight, and work to better the country I'm in regardless of what country that is at the moment. I'm not entitled to fucking anything, that's why I'm trying to educate myself in honest immigration because you'll never see me climb your fences and then try to get on welfare.

Canada doesn't want people like me anymore, I've just about had my fill of being bitten by the mouth I'm trying to feed. I literally want to have a good simple life, work hard, shoot guns, and be left the fuck alone.

Your reaction is understandable, but I don't think it's warranted.
>> No. 112944 ID: d6e893
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>>112942
>Why is it that every shit on this planet feels like they're entitled and welcome to immigrate to America when their own homeland becomes inhospitable?
We engraved the reason on the Statue of Liberty:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
>> No. 112945 ID: d6e893
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Don't like it?
Then get the fuck out.
>> No. 112946 ID: 6fe1bd
>>112944
>>112945
This is correct. The main problem I see is that the government and world has changed around Lady Liberty. People read that plaque and expect to get free shit.

When that Statue was erected, there was no such mentality. People didn't feel entitled like they do today. Worse are those that escape a country and then try to turn the USA into the country they ran away from.

Fuck that.
>> No. 112947 ID: ee9094
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>>112946
If immigrants to the USA used welfare as much as our own native, privileged, indolent population of aggrieved crybaby hillbillies, then that would be a problem, but they DON'T. I have worked and been friends with lots of immigrants and the one characteristic I have noticed is their diligent work ethic. Perhaps others may know of lazy, shiftless welfare cheat immigrants, but are really so much worse than our native-born citizens? But as the USA was built on immigration and all immigrant-bashing is based on racial, religious and ethnic hatred and discrimination, people here are going to have to learn to get along and treat others as you would like to be treated.

Immigrants are less likely than native-born Americans to use welfare programs and don’t even qualify for welfare benefits in most cases. Not only don’t immigrants come to the US to use welfare, but in many cases potential immigrants must prove their financial independence before even qualifying for a visa, making them far less likely to need support than native-born Americans.
This is a myth that has been getting a lot of attention lately, with some of the highest elected officials in the land arguing that we must curb legal immigration so that immigrants can’t, in the words of Donald Trump, “Come in and just immediately go sign up for welfare.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/04/president-trumps-claim-about-immigrants-immediately-collecting-welfare/?utm_term=.76f603c9fdc2
https://4thworldmovement.org/immigrants-come-use-welfare/
Immigrants and Their Children Use Less Welfare than Third-and-Higher Generation Americans: https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-their-children-use-less-welfare-third-higher-generation-americans
>> No. 112948 ID: 162432
>>112947
That's comforting to learn.
>> No. 112949 ID: 09c7e0
  >>112947
hahahahaha oh wow, Americans are poor and immigration and global trade is the solution? just like in 1992? look at all the problems immigration and free trade have solved in the past 27 years. The Aristocrats! XD
>> No. 112959 ID: 419c96
Maybe an immigration attorney could help you. Finding a good one of those to get in touch with (ideally one in a gun-friendly state and who is gun-friendly themselves) won't necessarily get you easy answers or instructions, but I'm sure guns aren't the only thing people worry about bringing with them when they immigrate. Other legally controlled items or property are probably pretty common. A good immigration attorney would at least knows what statutes and whatnot to research for you. But their advice could get spendy.
>> No. 112961 ID: bbee29
>>112959
>immigration attorney
I hadn't even considered that, this is definitely relevant to my situation. I'm prepared for these kinds of various costs as I've been saving up for a while because I know immigration is expensive. Geographically, I'm very close to Montana and Idaho. As far as I know, both those states are pretty friendly to guns and I would be pretty happy to live there.

Legalese, sadly, is obviously not exactly my strength. I think I'll make a list of questions to as an immigration attorney so I can make the most of his expensive time. Seeing how I don't know much about this, I highly appreciate suggestions here.

As for "controlled goods", I don't think I have that much to worry about. Are there items that are hard to import aside from the obvious "14.5x114mm PTRD and ammo"? I own a car, some metalworking tools, a computer, clothes, a DSLR camera, and other regular household items. I don't have stuff like fireworks or "chemistry supplies" or "biological agents". I don't think I own anything that can bother a geiger counter, including scopes and stuff as I haven't purchased optics with tritium.
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>> No. 113108 ID: 132e8e
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Hey bru, it occurs to me that you might consider reading in some other, less fucked up and more qualified operator on some of your specific concerns. I'm more than happy to help, but I might not be the best nigga for the job at the moment, and I want you helped.

I got your most recent email, BTW, and will reply forthwith.
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