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No. 21228 ID: d4c8ee hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
  Hello airplanes? It's blimps, you win.
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>> No. 21870 ID: f0fb5d
  Saw this neat video recently by an engineer who wrote a book on the R101. It explains why helium isn't/wasn't really viable as well as the...uh, interesting...gas bag technology the British used.

While every airship from their glory days seems to have ended in disaster, I still feel like modern technology and controls could rectify the problems. It wouldn't be cheap but it could be better.
>> No. 21871 ID: f0fb5d
>>21870
I'll also say that I think the aspirational design characteristics of many of these grand, intercontinental airships contributed to their grand failure.

If you design an airship that doesn't try to take over cargo ships' market share over the oceans, eliminate the need to go from London to Cairo to Karachi to Melbourne and back or even cross the Atlantic without refueling inbetween, equip it with carbon fiber, rubber, plastic and aluminum where appropriate, don't try to power it with locomotive engines, set it up with 4G, radio and/or satellite links to modern weather radar feeds and match that with historical meteorological maps of graded wind-risk areas, you could do a lot of good without leaving any given continent or going too far beyond the shore.

Instead of thinking it's a cargo ship or luxury ocean liner in the sky like they did in the 1920s and 1930s, think of it as an 18 wheeler (or RV) that doesn't need a road.
>> No. 21872 ID: df12a0
I'd love it if they designed one to be an extremely-high-altitude, super-long-endurance "Spooky"-style gunship
>> No. 21885 ID: 947d3d
>>21872

As if that isn't already above our heads RIGHT NOW!

I'm also a member of the "retire to an airship" club. They definitely could be repurposed into an RV of the sky. Just a small ship big enough to house 3 people in relative comfort.
>> No. 21893 ID: f0fb5d
So, I'm doing a little research and I wanted to check with /v/ to see if there's any input here.

I'm looking at metropolitan areas that are not far apart as the crow flies but nevertheless isolated due to geography, whether that's mountains or impassable swamp. Two examples might be Rio De Janeiro and Sao Paolo, Brazil as well as Yaziva, Panama and Turbo, Colombia.

Both Rio and Sao Paolo are huge metropolitan areas and they're only 270 miles apart on the same coastline but it takes 7.5 or 8 hours to drive from one to the other thanks to the mountainous terrain and impossibility of a convenient coastal highway.

Yaviza and Turbo are the ends of the Darien Gap, the only break in the Pan-American highway. The distance between them is only 60 miles but it's proven impossible to build roads due to expense and environmental concerns.

What other examples can you think of?


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21890 No. 21890 ID: 482fe2 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/reinhard-hardegen-u-boat-commander-who-menaced-american-shores-dies-at-105/2018/06/18/d1c199e2-7301-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html

By Harrison Smith
June 18 at 6:36 PM
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In the early weeks of January 1942, relying on an old World’s Fair guidebook to find his way, Reinhard Hardegen brought his German U-boat near the mouth of New York Harbor. A Kapitänleutnant at the time, holding the equivalent rank of a lieutenant in the U.S. Navy, he was close enough to shore that, standing on his submarine’s bridge in the dark of night, he could watch the Ferris wheel turn above Coney Island, spot the headlights of cars and see the distant glow of skyscrapers in Manhattan.

“I cannot describe the feeling with words,” he later wrote in a memoir, “but it was unbelievably beautiful and great. . . . We were the first to be here, and for the first time in this war a German soldier looked out upon the coast of the U.S.A.”

That same night — by then, the morning of Jan. 15, 1942 — Lt. Hardegen and his crew fired torpedoes at the Coimbra, a British tanker ship carrying oil off the coast of Long Island. Thirty-six crew members were killed as the ship sank into the sea, its bow pointing out of the water like a buoy that, Lt. Hardegen declared, marked the way to New York City.

In two patrols along the East Coast, Lt. Hardegen — who went on to achieve the rank of lieutenant commander — sank about two dozen merchant ships, part of a German military campaign to sever the supply chain between the United States and Britain.

He became a hero in Germany, where Adolf Hitler personally awarded him the country’s highest military honor, but later disavowed any support for the Nazi party, became involved in German state politics and returned to the United States to speak with veterans groups and meet with the families of his wartime victims.

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21840 No. 21840 ID: 09c7e0 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
The P-61 "Black Widow" all weather fighter-bomber-interceptor is not only the single most accomplished fighter aircraft of all time with respect to combat ratio, its also the single greatest military aircraft of any type ever put into service as it achieved it's combat ratio while also supplying both daylight and nighttime air to ground ordinance delivery with divebomber pickle barrel precision and delivering as much payload per sortie as aircraft twice as large.

prove me wrong
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>> No. 21846 ID: ebb4ba
>>21845
t. sergei
let me guess, your next post is going to be "muh export models"
>> No. 21852 ID: 80dc83
well it looks like this argument is settled
the P-61 black widow is the single greatest combat aircraft ever produced!
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>>21852
The argument settled without anyone mentioning that the P-61 could outmaneuver every other combat of it's time, that it could outturn a zero and outroll a 190 because of the P-61 unique control surface arrangement even thought the zero was half the size and the the 190 even smaller?
Damn the Black Widow didn't even have to work hard to win this thread. It outgunned pretty much everything too. Deicing gear, the best all weather radar ever invented, approach radar, bulletproof radial engines…

just damn, if u could datass a plane without seeming like some who wants to do sexual stuff to them then i would datass a P-61 24/7 for years on end without even thinking about other aircraft
>> No. 21883 ID: 18a9d9
I read a book by a Radar Operator who was in Beaufighters and Mosquitoes and he had some funny stories about changing the magazines in an aircraft with G forces and all that. Allan White was his name I think…
>> No. 21884 ID: 18a9d9
OK google fixed up my brain a bit. I read the book when I was helping out on Aces High and Warbirds, two old ww2 combat flight sims from the turn of the century.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1311752/Flight-Lieutenant-Mike-Allen.html
This guy's autobiography and every other one that I've read by R/Os of the era are some of my favorite books, pioneers of seeing in the dark at high velocity


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21873 No. 21873 ID: 858cd5 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Post some plates
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18950 No. 18950 ID: b998fa hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russia-plans-new-interceptor-and-carrier-killer-nuclear-submarines/525045.html

>Russia will design two new classes of nuclear-powered submarines as part of President Vladimir Putin's 20 trillion ruble ($356 billion) rearmament campaign through 2020.

>Though the designs have not yet been named, one will be classified as an "underwater interceptor" and the other an "aircraft carrier killer," the head of the state-owned United Shipbuilding Corporation's state defense order department, Anatoly Shlemov, told news website Lenta.ru late last week.

>After years of decline in the wake of the Soviet Union's collapse, Russia's Defense Ministry has poured money into the construction of a new generation of nuclear-powered submarines. The first new types, the Borei- and Yasen-class, have already entered service.

Surely with the way the Russian economy is they ain't going to build a dedicated aircraft carrier killer submarine?

More like they are going to build some cruise / guided missile submarine like the Oscar-II?
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>>19442
Playing the board (or living room carpet) wargame Harpoon, the old 1955 AS-1 Komet (NATO reporting name: Kennel) anti-ship missile was not very effective, but could at least be used as decoys when flying along with more dangerous bombers and missiles. Slow, short-ranged and inaccurate, but ships cannot ignore them. F-14 Tomcat interceptors groan to discover that they expended their Phoenix missiles downing Komets when more dangerous AS-18 Kazoo missiles were following.

- Kh-59M Ovod-MK2 (AS-18 'Kazoo') anti-shipping variant with a turbojet engine and larger warhead. Range 115 km.
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>>19443
Oops!
The Kh-59M is the AS-18 Kazoo, but the Kh-59MK2 Stealth Standoff (also Kh59M2?) AS-22 stealth standoff version, rocket or turbofan engine, shown in MAKS 2015. Light compact tactical stealth ALCM with a range of 290km (for export) and 550km (for internal) versions. Rumors have told that India will get "special" export version with a range extended up to 350km.
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MAKS 2015: KTRV showcases Kh-59MK2 aircraft guided missile upgrades
Nikolai Novichkov, Moscow - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
02 September 2015 http://www.janes.com/article/53970/maks-2015-ktrv-showcases-kh-59mk2-aircraft-guided-missile-upgrades
Among the most significant weapons to be exhibited at MAKS 2015 was an updated version of the Kh-59 stand-off land attack missile, called the Kh-59MK2.

Developed by the Raduga Design Bureau, part of Russia's Tactical Missiles Corporation (KTRV), the new variant - about to enter flight testing - has been configured to fit in the internal weapons bay of the Sukhoi PAK FA (T-50) fighter aircraft. Additionally, the body of the missile has been optimised for a reduced radar cross section (RCS).

The new, stealthy Kh-59MK2 is 4.2 m long, has a wingspan of 2.5 m, and a 0.4x0.4 m cross section with its wings and fins folded. Although currently designated as part of the Kh-59 family, it is expected to receive an entirely new designation in the future.

As for the original Kh-59, the missile is intended to strike a variety of fixed ground targets, including targets with low radar, infrared (IR), and optical background contrast, known position co-ordinates, and target area information features.

Powered by a Saturn 37-04 bypass turbojet (or a 50MT turbojet for export), the modernised Kh-59MK2 has an acknowledged range of 290 km. It incorporates an INS and a satellite guidance system (GPS and GLONASS) that can provide mid-course guidance, and an electro-optical (EO) terminal guidance system that gives a circular error probable of 3 m in either day or night operations. One or more missions can be loaded into that system to provide optional guidance on different targets.

The missile can fly as low as 50 m over the ground, with warhead options including a 310 kg penetrator or submunitions.
>> No. 21880 ID: c86ffa
This thread is interesting to me in light of the widely discussed speech last month given in Russia:

http://www.unz.com/article/the-implications-of-russias-new-weapons/
>> No. 21881 ID: bef190
https://www.globalresearch.ca/newly-revealed-russian-weapons-systems-political-implications/5631579


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21859 No. 21859 ID: 6a47c8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Everyone tells me my scissor lift APC build dream is retarded
.. now I understand it looks stupid and is very slow but hear me out

you could armor it up and sit up there with a sniper rifle..
orrr
you could roll it up to areas unacessable to cars and provide ground support with a mobile gun carriage ( also can throw shot up homies in it as a medical vehicle)
... you could even pull up to 20ft windows and R6S it up and window entry right?

im not really worried about people trying to tip over my armored giraffe on account of how dang heavy these things are and sniper rifle
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Get a boom lift.

>They're faster and more manuverable.
>The forks can be replaced with a basket or be used for breaching doors.
>higher ground clearences
>> No. 21866 ID: 6a47c8
>>21862
Oh yeah those do look cool. do you think i should go for an articulating version or just the telescoping one?
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there is this one I saw on Alibaba.. looks pretty heavy duty and it says its only $5,000 that can't be real right? how cheap are these mini tanks usually
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There's also this option. Pic related.

Let's be real, unless your ground support in the debris free streets of NYC, a scissor lift can barely traverse any terrain and will still probably die after crawling 2 miles in 30-45 minutes.

A boom lift or even a fork lift could work pretty well, also scissor lifts are only rated to life something like 500 lbs, fork lifts are rated to lift many thousands of pounds, they can pick up cars. You could armor a fork lift and it will still move.

I think it's a novel idea, just maybe start with something that's actually made to drive around.
>> No. 21888 ID: c61fc8
Please make sure you get properly trained on it, using a lesson plan with a written test, administered by a real trainer, and annotated on a competency card.


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21854 No. 21854 ID: df12a0 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
>The ACH-47A was originally known as the Armed/Armored CH-47A (or A/ACH-47A). It was officially designated ACH-47A[56] as a U.S. Army Attack Cargo Helicopter, and unofficially referred to as Guns A Go-Go. Four CH-47A helicopters were converted to gunships by Boeing Vertol in late 1965. Three were assigned to the 53rd Aviation Detachment in South Vietnam for testing, with the remaining one retained in the U.S. for weapons testing. By 1966, the 53rd was redesignated the 1st Aviation Detachment (Provisional) and attached to the 228th Assault Support Helicopter Battalion of the 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile). By 1968, only one gunship remained, and logistical concerns prevented more conversions. It was returned to the United States, and the program stopped.

>The ACH-47A carried five M60D 7.62 × 51 mm machine guns or M2HB .50-caliber machine guns, provided by the XM32 and XM33 armament subsystems, two M24A1 20 mm cannons, two XM159B/XM159C 19-Tube 2.75-inch (70 mm) rocket launchers or sometimes two M18/M18A1 7.62 × 51 mm gun pods, and a single M75 40 mm grenade launcher in the XM5/M5 armament subsystem (more commonly seen on the UH-1 series of helicopters). The surviving aircraft, Easy Money, has been restored and is on display at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama.
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21850 No. 21850 ID: 1eb131 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
I realise this story is from before June and it's now December, but I thought it would be quite relevant to OPchan:

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/news/92741-92741


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21419 No. 21419 ID: d4c8ee hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
The Russians seem to be having some trouble with their carrier again.
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>>21837
No that's the other way around you fucko.
>building an aircraft carrier requires years of development and preliminary design assesment
>therefore you can't include it into current budget right away
>RRRRREEEEEEEEE RUSSIANS CANCELLED THEIR PROJECT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MONEYS, MERICA STRONK
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>>21838
Yes and program cut from the budget was for the development. No need to get that mad about it.
>> No. 21847 ID: 278cbe
>>21839
>for the development
Since when RnD of specific project requires specific article in military budget?
>> No. 21848 ID: 1d521e
>>21847

Uhh, except for blackbook projects, ALL of them. Governments don't just hand their militaries blank cheques, they're budgeted with tight cost controls. R&D is a massive cost, you can't just have a vague development budget for multiple projects or hide the costs in other parts of the budget. The money men would never allow it.
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>except for blackbook projects
>R&D is a massive cost, you can't just have a vague development budget for multiple projects or hide the costs in other parts of the budget. The money men would never allow it.
Yes you can, in fact, you must, if you want to have a space for several variants and have to change specifications during development and construction. Unless you have the bad habit to throw the money at problem until it goes away. I don't know, it might be that US project planning is entirely different and they need to invent moon landing from scratch every time they want to go to the Moon.

Let's see what you need for current specifications of aircraft carrier:
1. 100 000 tonne hull construction project (ice-capable for northern seas) - that is the main trouble, although not as much since Russia has several docks able of building such a ship. Latest series of ice breaking ships is already at 33 000 tonnes.
2. Power plant - nuclear reactors for this ship have been developed for new icebreakers already. Carrier's power plant will be designed for hybrid propulsion - which means that some modifications will be needed, naturally.
3. Air traffic management system - pretty much the reason Kuznetsov being updated. There's a lot of experience learned form operations in Syria and it will take time to learn from that.

The rest of the project will have to follow these primary goals, otherwise it will turn disastrous, of course. As I said, it will take years of preliminary development without any mentioning of final project. Compare that to the less exciting and more developed alternative which awaits decision with it's preliminary design already completed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lider-class_destroyer

>but Russkies didn't include them into their 2020-2025 budget
>"Putin’s 2025 modernization planning session was what didn’t make the cut"
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21744 No. 21744 ID: 7c6b82 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Just put in papers today on this.

We will see what the bank has to say, hopefully not maniacal laughter followed by a slammed phone hangup...
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>> No. 21752 ID: 2c840f
>>21747
/o/ may mays.
There's a pretty active truckerfag community on /o/. It's a fun thread to lurk.
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So, Kenworth's were out of the ballpark due to wanting 10k+ more for the same fucking truck as the next guy.....

So I got this.
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>>21805
Neat.

Is it true most payments on truck loans are weekly? Back in college I worked a job unloading a truck (at 6am on Sundays) and assembling furniture and the truckers were always fun to talk to.


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