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No. 21374 ID: bc78c2 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
  still fucking cool
>> No. 21375 ID: bc78c2
  neat


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21230 No. 21230 ID: 88977e hide watch quickreply [Reply]
hello there OPERATORchan

i am looking for the most practical and economic way about going about financing and purchasing a camping vehicle...

i don't need one that is very big, or expensive, or fancy... just something that is practical and economic friendly (i.e... value for money)

...perhaps one with a shower, and good AC

thank you! <3

:)
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Back around 1988 or so, I bought a 1974 Cadillac ambulance for $500. I got it for an RV to go on hunting and camping trips. And it worked out! I removed the paramedic's chair, put a bed in and it was all set. That gigantic car had a 472 CID V-8 engine and a 27 gallon fuel tank. The 1975 Cadillac had a 600 lb 500 cubic inch (8.2 liter) engine.
The 1974 model year was impacted by the oil embargo of late 1973 and early 1974, which hit large cars especially hard, as fears of rationing drove people to buy smaller cars with better fuel economy.
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That ambulance probably weighed around 6000 pounds and probably got around 7 miles per gallon. Not a very economical car to take to the wilderness, but you could stand up in it.

I know that the EPA had only a single (not separate city/highway) MPG rating list in 1974 and I think that was the first year for it. In Thos. E. Bonsalls "Cadillac The American Standard" there is a reprint of an advertisement Cadillac sent to dealers in 1974 to run in local media, this one from Valley Cadillac. It states that the Environmental Protection Agency made a study recently of gas mileage delivered by 376 new automobiles and that the Cadillac Eldorado was found to deliver 10.4 MPG, the de Ville 8.9 MPG (I dont understand why thered be a difference), and also listed some other cars including Lincoln 7.9, Chrysler 8.4 and smaller cars like the Pontiac Le Mans at 8.4 and Oldsmobile Cutlass at 7.3. 1973 and 1974 were probably the two worst years for fuel mileage on GM cars with very restrictive emission controls which gave both poor economy and poor drivability. In 1975, all GM cars got catalytic converters which allowed the engines to perform better and give better economy. By 1976, the EPA was listing both city and highway mileage and I still have the EPA window sticker from my 76 350 4BBL (Olds engine)Cutlass which shows 15 city and 21 highway. http://forums.cadillaclasalleclub.org/index.php?topic=85736.0
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>> No. 21287 ID: 044fd0
My GF and I went on a couple road trips last year in her Prius. Didn't have a shower but with the back seat folded down it had more than enough room for her and I to sleep. Prius sucks balls in town for lack of acceleration but it's quite adequite on the interstate. Got about 65 MPG in the Florida Keys and about 55 out in Arizona and Nevada.
I also have a 94 Chevy Astro LT AWD that was formerly registered as an RV. It could fit a large futon in the back. Didn't get the best fuel economy and the 28 gallon tank was a real pain in the wallet to fill but it could cruise along at 100mph all day and no cop ever gave it a second glance. Took it to Florida a couple of times back when the AC worked. Climbed the embankment closing off the lost highway at Centralia at drove around there one time. Once drove it around for more than a month with a broken torsion bar.
>> No. 21313 ID: 9dc901
  >>21231
>>21232


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21175 No. 21175 ID: b430d1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2016/08/16/Modernized-Russian-bombers-will-be-able-to-fly-in-the-stratosphere/9541471356233/
>At the end of 2016, the Russian Defense Ministry will receive the first delivery of the renewed NK-32 engines for the Tu-160M2 strategic missile-carrying bombers.

>According to the developers, the new engine will help the plane fly up to the stratosphere at an altitude of 60,000 feet.

>"The new NK-32 version can work not only as a reactive plane engine but also as a rocket engine. Thanks to this, the Tu-160M2 will be able to cruise at a height where no enemy anti-aircraft system can strike it," a source in the Russian defense industry said.

>The modernized plane's first flight will take place in 2018.

>According to Russian air force chief Viktor Bondarev, the Defense Ministry plans to buy about 50 Tu-160M2 planes.
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>> No. 21295 ID: 8f9c57
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But the A-6 has been retired. Along with the F-117. And the Air Force has been in an ongoing controversy in retiring the A-10. The Air Force’s latest retirement schedule, unveiled in its latest budget request for FY17, begins divesting the A-10s in FY18. The last A-10 would be sent to the boneyard in FY22. http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/2016/04/25/house-legislation-restricts--10-retirement/83508968/
>> No. 21296 ID: ad2b13
  >>21294
Aside of heavy payload that's kind of why it makes for a great example. This was before stealth, so you can think of it as a pre-stealth stealth bomber.

The most modern example of a bomber using speed, storms and terrain for "stealth" would be F-15E, or that new Sukhoi bomber.
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>>21296
>>21257
If we're on the old stealth vs. terrain cover debate...why not both? Apparently a low-altitude penetrator version of the B-2 was under consideration at one point in its development.

>>21175
>rocket engine
Is that a translation error? I would expect a hybrid turbo-ramjet like the SR-71 had.
>> No. 21299 ID: b86cd3
Imagine modern air combat as playing flashlight tag in a field at night. You can turn on your flashlight (radar) to try and find other players, but they in turn see your light (EM emissions). Low-observability technology is represented by some players wearing ninja suits while others wear reflective vests.
>> No. 21300 ID: 9723b1
>>21298
Erm I think the point is to cut costs so more platforms can be produced with a lower tech base. Any total war scenario is going to involve nukes, and nukes will crash your tech base pretty fast.

Although I don't think the A-6 guy is talking about that, he's just being pedantic about the comparison.

>>21299
Modern stealth is only effective in a narrow band, called the X band. It's not effective in other bands of radar, such as those used by ground, shipborne or AWACS search, tracking and interrogation radars. Or in infrared, which is becoming distressingly common and depressingly sophisticated. Or passive radar... once that comes in it's pretty much over for stealth forever.


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  >The US Navy has completed the first ever catapult launch of the Northrop Grumman X-47B unmanned combat air system demonstrator (UCAS-D) aircraft at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, earlier today. Apparently it went very well, the Navy sent over this video of the launch earlier this evening.

>The catapult shot is a crucial step towards the jet's initial sea-trials, which are expected next year (the X-47B that's on Truman right now is merely doing deck-handling exercises). The sea-trials will involve catapult launches, arrested recoveries and having the X-47B fly the pattern around the "boat" while coordinating with carrier's air traffic controllers. The idea behind the UCAS-D is to prove that an autonomous unmanned aircraft can safely operate at sea onboard a carrier.

>If the X-47B fails, the prospects for the follow-on Unmanned Carrier Launched Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) aircraft program would dim markedly. The Navy is counting on the X-47B to pave the way for that program.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2012/11/us-navy-completes-first-shore-.html

Pretty fucking cool.
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>> No. 21055 ID: 1e7925
>>21051
>>21053

Lots of talk about this at work. The AI mostly improved on the existing AI opponent, it's not really OMG TERMINATOR AI thing.


The U Cincinnati article is a little less hype-y. The linked white paper comes across as an infomercial for the guys' fuzzy logic algorithm.


http://magazine.uc.edu/editors_picks/recent_features/alpha.html

http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/genetic-fuzzy-based-artificial-intelligence-for-unmanned-combat-aerialvehicle-control-in-simulated-air-combat-missions-2167-0374-1000144.pdf
>> No. 21056 ID: 396316
>>21051
Yeah no shit it doesn't require a lot of processing power to calculate vectors in a completely controlled environment, I've been getting my ass kicked by AI since ace combat two.

It's when it gets into uncontrolled environments that things get a lot more complicated.

Instead of having every grid point mapped in a computer and every moving object accounted for, in a real world the AI would have to collect data and build a HIGHLY IMPERFECT picture of the world around it. For example there would be no way to predict and react to simple things like enemy flak blowing up near or a sensor going out.

Also a lot more important is the ability to decide where the pilot fits in the overall tactical, strategic and even political landscape. If he shoots down that Israeli jet will the pilot be starting a thermonuclear war? Is that passenger jet out of Iran a simple airliner or a converted chemical weapons delivery system, and how to make a value judgement?
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>>21056
The AI would build an imperfect picture of the world around it, like how human pilots do, but people can make sound judgments based on common sense and experience (difficult to quantify and translate into a computer program), but an AI could just ignore things that are not threats or concerning to the mission. Such as being mindful of areas it is not supposed to enter, the ground or navigational hazards, or threats such as enemy radar, anti-aircraft artillery or missiles. When fighting an aerial dogfight, the AI could be programmed to concentrate on the most pressing concerns in order of importance, such as enemy aircraft, flak and SAMs.
And as for predicting the trajectory of enemy flak, that would be the AI's forte as long as its sensors are effective (and the sensors it is sharing with its network). If the AI indeed thinks and reacts with logical decisions hundreds of times faster than a human can, it could weave through flak and obstructions like an ace in the prosecution of its mission.
And determining who to attack, the AI would be governed by the rules of engagement, just like human pilots are, but the AI might make unfortunate judgment calls.
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Now imagine if such sophistication could be imparted to missiles. If the missile's sensors are precise enough to correctly identify the enemy aircraft it was locked on to, the missile's AI might be effective in ignoring counter-measures and predicting the aircraft's movements to plot the best course to destroy the aircraft.
- US Raytheon AIM-9X Sidewinder missile.
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"You're not fooling anyone, flyboy."


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20439 No. 20439 ID: cad48c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
So after much thought, I've decided to sell off the BJ40 I was working on. While I enjoy the hell out of the cantankerous bastard, it's not really a viable option for my daily driver needs for a couple reasons -- most notably, finding parts is a pain in the ass and only going to get worse.

So now I'm in the market for something new and looking for ideas. I'm looking for a 4WD SUV (or much less preferably pickup), probably mid/full-sized. While I like the capacity of a pickup, it rains enough here and I find utility in having capacity for 3-4 people that the enclosed space of a SUV is likely a better tradeoff. Having said that, I do want to be able to chuck a range day's worth of gear in the back without much trouble. Most of my driving will be on paved roads/highways, but I want to be able to get offroad easily enough, though obviously I'm willing to give up crazy extreme rock-crawling ability in the name of practical road driving.

So far this has lead me to look at 4Runners, newer Land Cruisers, and XTerras. I've got about 10K to throw at this, can wiggle a bit. Here's my real problem though -- I'd prefer a diesel, but the American market seems to hate them outside of absurdly large pickups.

Anyone have any other ideas?
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Urgh.

>Swapping Japanese or American lel simplicity for overengineered euroshit
Pic related.

>Wanting to pay the euroshit tax on top of the diesel parts tax
Pic related.

If you absolutely WANT to pay a premium on parts and have a bad time working on your own vehicle, why not go for a Mercedes OM617 or OM601? Hell, in >>20685 it looks like there might even be room for an OM617 (the straight-5) in there.

The ALH in that Xterra is somewhat better than earlier engines. For one, they run the oil pump on a chain from the crankshaft, and the vacuum pump off the end of the camshaft, as opposed to running an extra jackshaft like on the 1.6IDI and the first gen TDI. But, it does run the water pump off the (already stressed) timing belt. Since it's a diesel, it's an interference engine.
The Mercedes engines are chain timed, and they run the water pump from an accessory drive belt.


So, you've got your swap. That costs $7000+. And you get 30+MPG. Great. A 1.6L automatic Sidekick gets about 30 MPG, and they can be found for $2000-4000.
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>>20723

He used to be married to OM617's but moved to TDI's. He explained why once but I don't remember enough details not to butcher the reasoning. It doesn't cost him $7000 to do the swap, that's what he sells them for.

Pic is a TDI Jetta towing a Pathfinder. That turned some heads.
>> No. 21041 ID: cad48c
>>20723
Probably just going to stick to my 4Runner plan, put another 200K on whatever I find, and when it finally wears the fuck out maybe I'll have enough banked to get something interesting. Maybe we'll see some interesting diesels in the market by then that aren't a total pain in the dick.
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This thread inspired me to finally do a bit of searching regarding something that's been lurking in the far back recesses of my mind for years now, and ohhh shit, there's someone who actually does this commercially!

http://www.landroverimport.com/index.html
>> No. 21054 ID: d23ffe
>>20439
I've been looking around for the same. I like my expedition, but I'd prefer a diesel.

Jeep made a Liberty with a diesel for a while, rare but you can find them.

>>20459
>>20460
No Amarok yet, but the Touareg and mid size VW have been available for a while, both in diesel with 4wd.

>>20474
The EPA is horribly out of control. When the nation was being crippled by near $4/gal gas. The EPA was fining the crap out fuel companies for failure to meet impossible standards, which was adding something like another 20 cents per gallon, that's border line economic treason.

>>20479
While economy doesn't directly equal lower emissions. It can greatly reduce the footprint. Every unit of gas from the crude coming out of the ground to evaporation at the pump increases polution. Not to mention meeting the standards often leads to poor mpg, which is self defeating.

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20725 No. 20725 ID: d5e5a4 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Visited the National Museum of the USAF in Dayton OH last week.
The place is huge, and they just opened up their 4th hangar to the public, full of X-planes. Admission is free. I spent 6 hours there, and didn't even come close to putting a dent in stuff to see and read about.

Most pics are presented without comment.
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FIN.
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>>21024

Shiny... I need to go there one of these days. Today started the Sentimental Journey Fly-in in Lock Haven, The C-54 Spirit of Freedom is there again this year. I will of course be abusing my free access to take all the pictures.
>> No. 21034 ID: bf2165
Hey! You're in my neck of the woods. I still havn't been to see the 4th hanger, I really need to do that.
>> No. 21057 ID: 9dcda2
>>20725
A little late, but cool shit man.


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20703 No. 20703 ID: 9723b1 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Su-34's were sent to bomb terrorists over Syria on Friday, and carried out a strike.

The terrorists called Obama for help to block the Russians until they could re-arm. Obama ordered F-18s scrambled to intercept and endanger the Su-34s without firing on them.

Su-34s successfully evaded the F-18s wtf? isn't F-18 a fighter? until the F-18s had to return for refueling.

The Su-34s then completed their bombing run and finised off not only the remaining terrorists, but also their logistics services that were in the process of rearming the terrorists safe in the knowledge that F-18s protected them.

http://archive.is/GraSL
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>> No. 20714 ID: 0d59ae
>>20710
It doesn't matter if they're pro or anti-ISIS, if they are destabilizing the country though terror, they are islamic terrorists. From Syrian government point of view, every armed group in the country killing civilians is a bad one. It doesn't matter if the group is Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS or FSA, all are islamic terrorists bent on subverting the legitimate rule of law.

This is why Russia doesn't make a distinction when bombing any group that isn't the Syrian government in Syria, there's no fucking point. All of these groups are organized criminals at the very least.

>Even the Kurdish communists have started getting called "terrorists" by non-Turkish pro-Syrian media after they pushed ISIS out of northern Iraq and blitzkried into Syria.
Certain Kurdish factions have decided that if they cannot make a state in Turkey, they will make a state in weakened Syria. To this end they have resorted to terrorism and allying with other forces destabilizing Syria.

Calling certain Kurdish factions terrorists is calling a spade a spade, it is not politicized language, it is a fact. However not all Kurds have decided on this course of action and Syrian media is so far being careful about distinguishing between the groups.
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>>20714
(this is what fascist enablers actually believe.)
>> No. 20716 ID: 3b6910
>>20715
>>20712
What the fuck are you doing? This isn't the designated shitposting board, get the fuck out.
>> No. 20718 ID: ebb4ba
>>20716
It is when Sergei drinks more than his vodka ration and posts his "Obama is literally ISIS hitler, thank putin that putin is protecting the world" in /v/ rather than /n/
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Cease shitting up /v/ please.


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20561 No. 20561 ID: 369bd6 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Thoughts on the Mitsubishi X-2 Shinshin?
Old specifications from 2008 set some lofty goals, it might be interesting to see how this develops. Also it just seems so small in comparison to most twin engine fighters or even the F-35. It had its first flight on the 22nd of April.
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>> No. 20580 ID: 8be205
>>20574
The J-31 is a clone of the F-35. Lockheed admits to having had design data copied from internal project design servers early on in the F-35 development process after contract awarding. The design of the J-31 is almost completely copy-pasted from the early F-35 work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Program_cost_overruns_and_delays

>On 21 April 2009, media reports, citing Pentagon sources, said that during 2007 and 2008, spies downloaded several terabytes of data related to the F-35's design and electronics systems, potentially compromising the aircraft and aiding the development of defense systems against it.

Funny how that coincides with the rough timeline needed for development on a prototype plane, such that by 2012, we have the unveiling of the Shenyang J-31.
>> No. 20582 ID: 3b6910
>>20580
Shinshin is likelier the clone of the pre-JSF, pre X-35 design that LockMart had. When LockMart got to the drawing board their stealth submission didn't have internal bays and was twin engined. Basically a simplified micro F-22 with similar performance. So that seems to fit.

J-31... possibly. J-22 is clearly a MiG-1.44 airframe with the F-35 stealth skin and composite control surfaces, so it seems the Chinese did have some F-35 data. It's not out of the question that they would apply this data to the J-31.
>> No. 20583 ID: 6e9258
>>20568
>includes all four Kuril Islands
>includes Senkaku islands
Somebody's really asking to get his ass whooped.
>> No. 20697 ID: 6f2c2c
>>20568
So stealthy they fly directly above Russian AA.


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20668 No. 20668 ID: 87888c hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://www.ovik-crossway.com/overview.php

With the Land Rover Defender and Iveco/Santana Massif now off the market, Ovik (who have experience in up-armouring Land Rovers for the MOD and PSNI) have developed a vehicle that looks rather like a butch Defender: the Crossway. The Crossway comes in a heavy 6x6 variant, which pushes it into Pinzgauer territory, so it could also be seen as a replacement for that vehicle (which has also ceased production).

Meanwhile Supacat have developed a reconnisance vehicle based on the Land Rover Discovery: http://supacat.com/products/lrv400/
With the Defender replacement rumoured to be based on the Discovery platform, does this give us a clue as to what a Defender replacement might look like?
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19483 No. 19483 ID: a18c5a hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Dropped another $300 on the Cadillac Eldorado I own to get work done on the radiator. I haven't yet ordered the rebuilt engine that it would take to turn my car into a reliable vehicle, and I'm not sure anymore if that's what I want to do. A coupe isn't conducive to the family life anyway. What's a badass dad car I can get?
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>> No. 20662 ID: f87148
>>20661

Is that what it is? Huh. Ya know, for years I've wondered why they drop like fucking flies on the Interstate / highway; I've always figured they were just that goddamn unreliable.
>> No. 20663 ID: f2112f
>>20662

Ya, those poor little 3-cylinders don't like to be run hard for extended periods. Get two adults in there and try to drive it 30+ miles at 65mph on a warm day and you're gonna have troubles. My grandmother had a 92 Metro for the better part of the 90's and even when it was new it didn't like to go more than 25 miles at a time.
>> No. 20664 ID: c4277d
>>20663
Ehh, My brother owned a '90 Geo Metro 4 door, autotragic, and besides barely being able to go 65, let alone much faster, it was extremely reliable. He also was a hambone, and broke the seat back with his fat rolls. His solution? Cram cases of canned dry potato pearls and beans behind the back seat. so, even when it was just him in it, it had the weight of 2 adults and a small child in it. I've also ridden in it with 2 other adults and my brother, and it was tragically slow, but it worked just fine, and still got ~35MPG that trip.
>> No. 20665 ID: b66324
>>20659
It was a '97 Eldorado. Sold that shit and now have an '06 Ford Crown Victoria.
>> No. 20666 ID: e6000a
>>20665

oh wow. I shit the bed there. Pants-on-head retarded, that was.

Anyways, the only thing I have that's close to that is '96-01 Taurus and '91-'01 Explorer and Explorer Sport-Trac through '05.

All I can tell you is that Ford used vacuum motors on their HVAC systems in those eras, and if your car has the same shit that's likely where your problem is going to be. Haynes isn't very forthcoming on troubleshooting information. Or the electrical switch that controls those stupid vacuum shits (WHY FORD WHY)

Check them switches mang.

>>20663

Y'know, that lines up in my head.

My dad had an (automatic) '92 model. Got it in about '94, and it died in '97 or '98 from a burned valve, which I always attributed to my mom's retarded driving. She went through the Ozarks in that car on our way to Shitsconsin. With me, my grandma and her, 3 dogs, and a bunch of shit in there.
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