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File 136349204148.jpg - (213.14KB , 950x632 , North Korean 170mm selfpropelled guns.jpg )
11223 No. 11223 ID: 2a6916
Artillery Thread
Self propelled, towed, fixed, and man portable.
Rocket propelled and gun launched.
Nuclear and conventional, old and new.
If it is built to hurl something from Point A to Point B, you can discuss it here.


North Korean 170mm self propelled howitzers. The Norks might be a bit backwards but they appreciate artillery and seem to do a surprisingly good job at photographing their military.
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>> No. 11224 ID: 2a6916
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>>11223
Rocket artillery from a recent Nork firing demonstration. I am guessing these are 122mm grad type rockets.
>> No. 11225 ID: 2a6916
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>>11224
impacting
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>>11225
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>>11226
oddly enough these seem to be some of the better photos of rocket artillery in use that I've seen.
>> No. 11228 ID: 2a6916
  Either Pershing or Patton tanks being used as artillery during the early part of the Korean War. Also I think I recall Sherman tanks coming factory standard with equipment allowing them to carry out non-line of sight fire.
>> No. 11229 ID: 2a6916
  >>11228
http://books.google.com/books?id=SOTDzoncMroC&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=sherman+tank+indirect+fire+sight&source=bl&ots=xeO-025bHM&sig=diQMDQuTV7dw23qA04g1mVtwxoo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QkRFUcKiPOKY2AXvvoHgDw&ved=0CC
4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=sherman%20tank%20indirect%20fire%20sight&f=false

found a reference to it.

Just a video related to the general topic.
>> No. 11241 ID: 61959c
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>>11225
What island they're firing at?

>>11223
Gotta love those barrel's length.
>> No. 11242 ID: 2a6916
>>11241
it didn't say, although they did say the group firing is tasked with bombarding Daecheongdo and Baengnyeongdo Islands, so that might give an idea of general location.
>> No. 11244 ID: 263d6c
File 13636338871.jpg - (332.96KB , 1600x1067 , North Korean 170mm (6_69 inches) M-1978 (KOKSAN) s.jpg )
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North Korean 170mm (6.69 inches) M-1978 (KOKSAN) self propelled gun in Iraq.
>> No. 11245 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11246 ID: 263d6c
File 136363399633.jpg - (195.39KB , 1600x1067 , North Korean 170mm (6_69 inches) M-1978 (KOKSAN) s.jpg )
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Did the Iraqis ever take good care of their equipment?
>> No. 11247 ID: 263d6c
File 136363408849.jpg - (1.16MB , 3504x2336 , North Korean 170mm M-1978 (KOKSAN) SPG & US M-.jpg )
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North Korean 170mm M-1978 (KOKSAN) SPG & US M-88A2 Hercules recovery vehicle.
>> No. 11248 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11249 ID: 263d6c
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North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Iran.
>> No. 11250 ID: 263d6c
File 136363434461.jpg - (67.59KB , 929x650 , North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Ir.jpg )
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When playing board wargames like Korea '95, the most potent weapon of the North Koreans is all their artillery. They also have a lot of special forces, but their Queen of the Battlefield is artillery.
>> No. 11251 ID: 263d6c
File 136363436656.jpg - (59.01KB , 916x650 , North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Ir.jpg )
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>> No. 11252 ID: 263d6c
File 136363438727.jpg - (36.43KB , 902x650 , North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Ir.jpg )
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>> No. 11253 ID: 263d6c
File 136363525868.jpg - (164.62KB , 1061x678 , North Korean 170mm M1989 Koksan SPH 1.jpg )
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M-1978 / M1989 (KOKSAN) 170mm self propelled (SP) gun
The M-1978 (KOKSAN) 170mm self propelled (SP) gun, of North Korean design and manufacture, is probably mounted on a T-54 chasis, a Chinese Type 59 hull or a T62 Chassis. The 170mm gun has no superstructure, and it has 2 large spades at the rear. The 170mm (~6.69") gun itself is a previously unknown type, possibly Russian coastal-defence or ex-naval weapon. The M-1978 Koksan gun was first noted publicly in a parade in 1985. The Koksan is named after the city in North Korea where it was first seen by the West in 1978. The M-1978 version carried no on-board ammunition supply.

The M1989 KOKSAN is a later version or modified M1978 which carries 12 rounds on-board ammunition supply. North Korea used them in batteries of 36 vehicles & supplied them to Iran when missiles became available as replacements.

During the Iran-Iraq War, key oil facilities of both nations were within artillery range of each other's armies. By June 1982, the Iraqis had been driven completely out of Iran. From that point on, Iraq spent most of the war on the defensive. In 1986 and the beginning of 1987, Iran launched new offensives, the last reaching the outskirts of Basra before again bogging down. Meanwhile, Iraq initiated a new tanker war in the Gulf, prompting Iran to target neutral shipping. Kuwait provided billions of dollars in loans and grants to support Iraq, and found itself in the middle of the combatants.

Iran acquired a number of M1978 Koksan guns from North Korea in 1987. "At that time, it was the longest-range field gun made anywhere in the world, capable of firing a rocket-assisted projectile to a range of almost 60 kilometers. It had been used by the Iranians to conduct harassment fire from the Al-Faw Peninsula into Kuwait's northeastern oil fields." [Ally to Adversary, page 27] With the Iran/Iraq War raging just to the north, fighting spilled over into Kuwait, and the steady pounding from the artillery barrages just to north shook the walls in Kuwait City.

Since 1993, the North has reinforced its artillery capability in the forward area. As of 1998 the South Korean military estimated that the DPRK had finished deploying 170mm self-propelled artillery with their range of over 50km and 240mm MRLS in the central and western areas, and was in the process of increasing deployment of these two weapons systems in the eastern area.

North Korea continues to improve its military. Highlighting these enhancements is an ambitious program to improve ground forces capabilities. A key component of this initiative involves the deployment of large numbers of long-range 240mm multiple rocket launcher systems and 170mm self-propelled guns to hardened sites located near the Demilitarized Zone. With the exception of the 170mm M-1978 Koksan gun, a new turreted self-propelled gun observed in a 1992 parade, and perhaps a few other systems, most artillery was developed from older Soviet and Chinese designs.

According to one report, a South Korean security analyst suggested that DPRK artillery pieces of calibers 170mm and 240mm "could fire 10,000 rounds per minute to Seoul and its environs." The number of Koksan guns is not publicly reported, but it is reliably reported that North Korea has about 500 long-range artillery tubes within range of Seoul, double the levels of a the mid-1990s. Large caliber self propelled artillery pieces typically have a sustained rate of fire of between four and eight rounds per minute. This suggests a total rate of fire of artillery alone of between 2,000 and 4,000 rounds per minute. The DPRK's two hundred 240mm MRLs fire either 12 or 22 rounds, providing a maximum single salvo of no more than 4,400 rounds.

North Korea is establishing a host of antitank defensive positions on the eastern and western fronts of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that bisects the two Koreas. The North Korean army has been building antitank defensive positions north of the Military Demarcation Line (MDL) in Kangwon Province since March 2001, and in early 2002 such positions were going up along the western front as well. It is exceptional for the North to build defensive facilities as its strategy has always centered on an offensive posture. The North has demanded that South Korea abolish its defensive concrete walls, designed to deter advancing North Korean tanks, south of the MDL. By January 2002 fifty more positions had reportedly been spotted on flat land and roads, which ensure that tanks and other vehicles can be conveniently maneuvered. The positions are reportedly five meter-high concrete structures with holes at the front, left and right for antitank guns. The structures are camouflaged by earth and sand after completion.

Given North Korea's reliance on artillery as the foundation of their combat power and the size of these positions, they are likely designed for self-propelled artillery pieces such as north Korea's Koksan Gun. The height of the positions is much more then is required to provide protection for either tanks or anti-tank guns. Tanks are usually employed "hull down" in which only the turret is exposed and anti-tank guns which have little use against modern armor, normally seek to fire at the flank of armored vehicles at close range in restricted terrain. Anti-tank guns are of little value against the K-1 and M-60s of south Korea's military. North Korea's only realistic chance to take out modern armor is with the use of anti-tank missiles, mines, or close infantry assault. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/m-1978-170.htm
>> No. 11254 ID: 263d6c
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German 17 cm SK L/40 railway gun.
The 17 cm SK L/40 (SK - Schnelladekanone (quick loading cannon) L - Länge (with a 40 caliber barrel) was a German naval gun that was used in World War I and World War II. Originally a naval gun, it was adapted for land service during World War I.

The 17 cm SK L/40 gun weighed 10.7 metric tons (10.5 long tons; 11.8 short tons), had an overall length of 6.904 meters (22 ft 7.8 in). Although designated as 17 centimeters (6.7 in), its actual caliber was 17.26 centimeters (6.80 in). It used the Krupp horizontal sliding block, or "wedge", as it is sometimes referred to, breech design rather than the interrupted screw used commonly used in heavy guns of other nations. This required that the propellant charge be loaded in a metal, usually brass, case which provides obduration i.e. seals the breech to prevent escape of the expanding propellant gas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_cm_SK_L/40_gun
>> No. 11255 ID: 263d6c
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Some more 170mm stuff.

German WW1 75.8mm Minenwerfer & 170mm Minenwerfer 1913 short model.
>> No. 11256 ID: 263d6c
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German WW1 170mm Minenwerfer a-A (early short-barrel model of 1913) traveling carriage.
>> No. 11257 ID: 263d6c
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German WW1 170mm Minenwerfer n-A (later long-barrel model 1916)
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>> No. 11259 ID: 263d6c
File 136363582890.jpg - (0.96MB , 2544x2764 , German WW1 170mm mittlerer Minenwerfer (17 cm mMW).jpg )
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German WW1 170mm mittlerer Minenwerfer (17 cm mMW) medium mortar.
>> No. 11260 ID: 263d6c
File 136363588145.jpg - (16.24KB , 536x157 , German WW2 170mm K18 field gun.jpg )
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German WW2 170mm K18 field gun.
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File 13636358931.jpg - (89.15KB , 539x900 , German WW2 170mm K18 field gun 2.jpg )
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>> No. 11262 ID: 263d6c
File 136363610542.jpg - (349.27KB , 2000x1352 , US WW1 7-inch (177mm), 45-caliber tractor-mounted .jpg )
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US WW1 7-inch (177mm), 45-caliber tractor-mounted gun.
>> No. 11263 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11274 ID: acc5a9
File 136373704171.jpg - (3.50MB , 2120x1500 , MLRS_Firing_2.jpg )
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M270 MLRS. For when you absolutely, positively have to kill every last motherfucker in a grid square.
>> No. 11275 ID: 2a6916
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>>11274
I remember back in middle school making a clay model of the MLRS in an art class. As it happens, tracks and the loading booms don't survive well when baked in a kiln.
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>>11275
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>>11276
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>> No. 11279 ID: 7cf9a5
File 13637476152.jpg - (129.64KB , 1024x768 , Astros_II_Malaysian_army_001.jpg )
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>> No. 11280 ID: 7cf9a5
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ASTROS II in action. I forgot when this picture was taken, though.
>> No. 11281 ID: bb97a6
What's the largest modern artillery gun?
>> No. 11282 ID: 263d6c
File 136390530899.jpg - (2.74MB , 3072x2304 , Russian 420mm (17-inch) self-propelled mortar 2B1 .jpg )
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>>11281
1957 is not so old, right?
420-mm (17-inch) self-propelled mortar 2B1 «Oka» and its shell in Saint-Petersburg Artillery museum.

2B1 Oka (Russian: 2Б1 Ока) is a Soviet 420 mm self-propelled gun. 2B1 is its GRAU designation.

An experimental model was ready in 1957. Its chassis (Object 273), was designed and built by the Kirov Plant. Its 20 meter barrel allowed it to fire 750 kg rounds up to 45 km. Due to its complexity of loading it had a relatively low rate of fire - 1 round every 5 minutes. Field tests showed various drawbacks of the entire design (the recoil was too strong for many components - it damaged drive sprockets, tore the gear-box away from its mountings, etc.) and the sheer length rendered it incredibly difficult to transport.

Its development continued until 1960, when the idea of such overpowered guns (along with the 2A3), was abandoned in favor of tactical ballistic missiles, such as the 2K6 Luna. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2B1_Oka
>> No. 11284 ID: 0a9437
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I want to say this is on Guadalcanal, but I'm not positive.
>> No. 11285 ID: 0a9437
File 136390675787.jpg - (69.35KB , 737x497 , US 105mm M119A1 lightweight towed (airmobile) howi.jpg )
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>> No. 11286 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11287 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11288 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11289 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11290 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11291 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11292 ID: 0a9437
File 136390705114.jpg - (129.54KB , 1280x889 , US 155mm M109 SPA used in checkpoint in Kosovo, lo.jpg )
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M-109 roadblock
>> No. 11298 ID: 263d6c
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US 280mm (11-inch) Atomic Cannon aka "Atomic Annie" 83.3 tons, 1951, fired a 550-lb 15 kiloton shell, max range 20 miles.

Atomic Annie was an artillery piece built by US that had the capability to fire nuclear ammunition. It was designed and developed during the early 1950s and was used in active service by 1953 in Europe and Korea. The first and only ever test of Atomic Annie was performed at the Nevada Test Site in 1953, it ended with a 15 kt shell being launched 7 miles into the Nevada desert. The launch proved to be the only nuclear shell ever fired with Atomic Annie.

As a result of the successful test, 20 more cannons were commissioned to be built at the cost of $800,000 each. After they were all built, more effective weapons had been developed and were being used, rendering the Atomic Annie obsolete.
>> No. 11299 ID: 263d6c
File 136391188619.jpg - (1.29MB , 2856x2142 , US nuke Atomic Cannon 280mm (11-inch) M65 at Aberd.jpg )
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An M65 Atomic Cannon at Aberdeen Proving Grounds
>> No. 11300 ID: 263d6c
  The 280mm M65 Gun at the Nevada Proving Ground - 1953 US Army Atomic Weapons Test
http://youtu.be/IXCWgqBSH8Q
On May 25, 1953 a 280mm M65 Atomic Cannon operated by the United States Army was tested at the Nevada Test Site as part of the Upshot-Knothole series of nuclear tests. The test resulted in the successful detonation of a 15 kt shell (warhead W9) at a range of 7 miles. Although missile technology and other methods of delivering atomic warheads were already well advance, the Army still manufactured at least 20 of these cannons which were deployed to locations in Europe and Korea. The 280mm cannons were retired from service in 1963.

Test Grable was the second of only four gun-type warheads ever detonated (the first was Little Boy, the weapon used against Hiroshima, the last two were test firings of the W33; all other atomic weapons were implosion-type weapons). The shell, designated a Mark 9 nuclear weapon, had a diameter of 280 mm (11.02 in), was 138 cm (54.4 in) long and weighed 364 kg (803 lb). The M65 Atomic Cannon from which it was fired had a muzzle velocity of 625 m/s (2,060 ft/s), for a nominal range of 32 km (20 mi), and weighed 77 metric tons (85 t).

The detonation of Grable occurred 19 seconds after its firing. It detonated over 11,000 yards (over 10 km, 6.25 mi) away from the gun it was fired from, over a part of the Nevada Test Site known as Frenchman Flat. The explosion was an air burst of 160 m (524 ft) above the ground (7 m (24 ft) above its designated burst altitude), 26 m (87 ft) west and 41 m (136 ft) south of its target (slightly uprange). Its yield was estimated at 15 kilotons, around the same level as Little Boy. An anomalous feature of the blast was the formation of a precursor, a second shock front ahead of the incident wave. This precursor was formed when the shock wave reflected off the ground and surpassed the incident wave and Mach stem due to a heated ground air layer and the low burst height. It resulted in a lower overpressure, but higher overall dynamic pressure, which inflicted much more damage on drag sensitive targets such as jeeps and personnel carriers. This led strategists to rethink the importance of low air bursts in tactical nuclear warfare.
>> No. 11301 ID: 2a6916
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11301
Keep getting a blank white screen when trying to post, hope this gets through and doesnt spit out a dozen reposts an hour from now.

>>11281
largest in what way? Size of the shell, length of the barrel, range, caliber? Russians have a self propelled 240mm mortar, that's probably the largest mortar in service. It has an assisted loading system to help out the crew with the breech loaded mortar and it can lob laser guided mortar shells that are apparently quite effective against targeted structures.

I don't recall too many modern howitzers above 155mm, but stuff like the Nork 170mm is an example. Also the 2S7 Pion and the M110 howitzer are both 203mm, but I don't know if you can still call them "modern" although they still have users.
>> No. 11303 ID: 263d6c
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>>11223
North Korean supreme leader, Kim Jong-un, digs the M1989 KOKSAN?
>> No. 11304 ID: 963c4b
File 136393340994.jpg - (391.07KB , 1600x1067 , Russian 240mm 2S4 M-1975 Tyulpan (tulip tree) bree.jpg )
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>>11301
Russian 240mm 2S4 M-1975 Tyulpan (tulip tree) breech-loading self-propelled mortar.
>> No. 11305 ID: 963c4b
File 136393343240.jpg - (234.50KB , 1024x768 , Russian 240mm 2s4 Tulpan or Tyulpan (tulip tree, M.jpg )
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>> No. 11306 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11449 ID: 388296
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>>11223

That Nork arty reminds me of the Tyburr model from Heavy Gear.
>> No. 11451 ID: a8afb0
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>Russians have a self propelled 240mm mortar
2A3's where 406mm.

Each round basically disintegrated the drive sprockets and made them pretty useless.

Not to mention they where prone to tipping over forward if they stopped moving suddenly.
>> No. 11453 ID: a8afb0
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>>11282
>>11451

Oh yeah, then there's the 420mm 2B1. Get the two mixed up.

Either way, classic example of Russians being Russian
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>>11451
lol the one in the background - you can tell it's front heavy just look at the tracks...

contributin' with TOS-1 thermobaric warhead rockets
>> No. 11456 ID: 2a6916
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>>11451
I didn't count those since they are long gone, I figured modern meant that they were at least still in service.

But yeah, Russians had a brief bout of madness after worldwar II. Heavy tanks, Bigger artillery, and so on. Almost a shame missiles caught on, would have been interesting to see where this led. (Intercontinental superguns? Self-propelled HARP cannons?) It is amusing that people in the west thought these Russian guns were mockups to scare people.
>> No. 11457 ID: 2a6916
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>>11456
interesting bit about that last pic. It is described as a 420mm self propelled RECOIL-LESS gun. It reminds me of a massive recoil-less cannon that the Russians built for a ship, I wonder if the projects were related. I think the designer made other... interesting projects but ended up earning a ticket to a gulag. I will see if I can dredge that info back up, sure I have an image and a name somewhere. (for some reason I think the guy's name had a "Y" in it.)
>> No. 11458 ID: 2a6916
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>>11457
305mm recoil-less cannon mounted on the Russian destroyer the Engles.

Leonid Kurchevsky was the creator, there was a Y but he was in a gulag from 1924-1929 for embezeling funds for a helicopter but got released early for his work on recoilless weapons. He pretty much liked strapping big guns on EVERYTHING. Apparently there was an aircraft with a 75mm gun, an automobile with a howitzer, and torpedo boat with a recoilless 150mm gun. and of course this crazy ship. Someone disliked his weapons enough that they sentenced him to death in 1937.
>> No. 11459 ID: 2a6916
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>>11457
photo of the C-130 gun during the test fire. Unfortunately it didn't survive.
>> No. 11460 ID: 2a6916
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>>11459
Part of the gun that broke off. Sorry for small photos, I can't find anything better.
>> No. 11461 ID: 2a6916
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>>11459
found a much better image. Also apparently the C-103 was designed by Vasiliy Garbin the same designer behind the famous Zis-3. The C-103 was tested and fired several times, but exploded TWICE during testing. First time was when the front and back of the weapon decided to part ways, and the second seems to be what was in the photo above.
>> No. 11462 ID: acc5a9
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>>11458
Recoilless oddities? Can't get much better than the Davis gun. Very primitive design (invented in 1910) using a counter-force system instead of the usual open tube. One barrel would face "forward" firing the payload, the other faced backwards and discharged an equal weight of grease and lead balls. Came in 2-, 6- and 12-pounder variants. The strangest part is that it was mounted primarily on aircraft as an anti-submarine and anti-zeppelin weapon. This seems to have great potential for disaster, since the aircraft of the era were made of canvas and wood.
>> No. 11465 ID: 2a6916
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2S19 MSTA-S 152mm howitzer.
(a 155mm variant, 2S19M1-155, was created in 2006)
Entered service in 1989, over 800 of them are active in Russia.
Built on a T-80 hull but with a T-72 engine.
>> No. 11466 ID: 2a6916
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>>11465
Can fire a variety of base bleed and rocket assisted munitions from it's autoloader. It can also fire laser guided munitions although only a modified variant of the round is small enough to fit the autoloader.

The turret seems rather large.
>> No. 11467 ID: 2a6916
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>>11466
>> No. 11468 ID: 2a6916
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>>11467
not sure how much camouflage or protection this was intended to provide.
>> No. 11469 ID: acc5a9
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>>11465
2S35 Koalitsiya-SV, designed to replace the 2S19. Features an over/under autoloading 152mm gun.
>> No. 11470 ID: 2a6916
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>>11469
beat me to it.

As if the turret wasn't massive enough...

Also I wonder how much this thing weighs and how many rounds it can carry. An increased rate of fire won't mean much if you need an ammo carrier parked next to it. With two guns, two autoloaders, the crew, and the necessary mechanisms to elevate guns that total as twice the weight and rotate a turret that is a good deal heavier...how much ammo can you reasonably expect to hold?
>> No. 11496 ID: 3a9c19
>>11470
iirc 48 in the revolving magazine, and can use it up in 3 minutes of continuous fire
>> No. 11497 ID: 963c4b
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>>11274
MLRS is packed with 13-foot long 227mm (8.94 inch) rockets.
Or packing up to two mighty Lockheed Martin MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System (ATacMS) that are 13 feet high and 24 inches in diameter.
>> No. 11498 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11499 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11500 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11501 ID: 963c4b
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US HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) firing ATACMS missiles.
>> No. 11502 ID: 963c4b
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US HIMARS packs 6 rockets or 1 ATACMS missile on a 6x6 AWD 5-ton truck.
Because those tracked MLRS vehicles are expensive.
>> No. 11538 ID: 2a6916
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A-80 535mm self propelled artillery. Proposal from the 60s. Was expected to lob 2,000lb shells beyond 10km, or fire missiles to ranges of beyond 70km. Trying to get information but everything is in Russian and Google translate can only do so much.
>> No. 11539 ID: 2a6916
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>>11538
A-80C variant of the project.
"Gun mounted on the chassis of the crawler type MT-T"
Breech loaded
>> No. 11540 ID: 2a6916
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>>11539
final proposal of the project.
D-80-2
>> No. 11577 ID: acc5a9
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If you want to talk almighty firepower, here's your answer. The greatest battleship ever built, mounting nine 16 inch/50 caliber Mark 7 guns: BB-63, the USS Missouri. Also sporting two dual-mount 5 inch/38 caliber Mark 12 cannon, 20 quad-mounted Bofors 40mm autocannons, and 49 Oerlikon 20mm guns, and refitted with the Phalanx CIWS and two kinds of missiles in the 1980s.

Today this legendary ship sits at anchor in Pearl Harbour, a museum to wars fought long ago. Struck from the naval register, but not forgotten. What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
>> No. 11578 ID: 2a6916
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>>11577
Pretty sure the Yamato wins the battleship dick swinging competition. It has 9 18-inch guns, largest ever fitted to a battleship. Called the "40 cm/45 Type 94 naval gun" the guns are actually 46cm and was named to hide it's true size. Also had some interesting anti-aircraft shells for the guns. Listed range is 4km farther than the Mark7s.
>> No. 11579 ID: 263d6c
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>>11578
The Brits considered making a fast battlecruiser, the HMS Incomparable, in 1915 with gigantic 20-inch (508mm) guns. The Japanese began work on a Super Yamato Class with 20-inch (510mm) guns.

Design A-150, also known as the Super Yamato class, was an Imperial Japanese plan for a class of battleships. Begun in 1938–39, the design was mostly complete by 1941. However, so that a demand for other types of warships could be met, all work on Design A-150 was halted and no keels were laid. Authors William H. Garzke and Robert O. Dulin have argued that Design A-150 would have been the "most powerful battleships in history" because of the massive size of their main battery of eight 510 mm (20 in) guns as well as numerous smaller caliber weapons.

Initial plans for the A-150 battleships called for eight or nine 510 mm (20.1 in) guns in quadruple or triple turrets. The successful construction of a 480 mm (18.9 in) gun in 1920–1921 made the Japanese confident that a 510 mm (20.1 in) could be built. In addition, a top speed of 30 kn (35 mph; 56 km/h) was desired so that the class would be faster than the United States' 27 kn (31 mph; 50 km/h) North Carolina-class battleships. However, these grand specifications were curtailed when tests culminated in a ship that had a displacement of some 90,000 tons; it was felt that ships of this size would be "too large and too expensive". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_A-150_battleship
>> No. 11580 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11581 ID: 263d6c
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The Yamato-class battleships (大和型戦艦 Yamato-gata senkan?) were battleships of the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) constructed and operated during World War II. Displacing 72,000 long tons (73,000 t) at full load, the vessels were the heaviest and most powerfully armed battleships ever constructed. The class carried the largest naval artillery ever fitted to a warship, nine 460-millimetre (18.1 in) naval guns, each capable of firing 2,998-pound (1,360 kg) shells over 26 miles (42 km). Two battleships of the class (Yamato and Musashi) were completed, while a third (Shinano) was converted to an aircraft carrier during construction.

Due to the threat of American submarines and aircraft carriers, both Yamato and Musashi spent the majority of their careers in naval bases at Brunei, Truk, and Kure—deploying on several occasions in response to American raids on Japanese bases—before participating in the Battle of Leyte Gulf in October 1944, as part of Admiral Kurita's Centre Force. Musashi was sunk during the course of the battle by American carrier airplanes. Shinano was sunk ten days after her commissioning in November 1944 by the submarine USS Archer-Fish, while Yamato was sunk in April 1945 during Operation Ten-Go.

Although the primary armament of the Yamato-class was officially designated as the 40 cm/45 caliber (15.9 in) Type 94, it actually took the form of nine 46 cm/45 caliber (18.1 in) guns—the largest guns ever fitted to a warship—mounted in three 3-gun turrets, each of which weighed 2,774 metric tons. Each gun was 21.13 metres (69.3 ft) long and weighed 147.3 metric tons (145.0 long tons). High-explosive armour-piercing shells were used which were capable of being fired 42.0 kilometres (26.1 mi) at a rate of 1½ to 2 per minute. The main guns were also capable of firing 1,360 kg (3,000 lb) 3 Shiki tsûjôdan ("Common Type 3") anti-aircraft shells.[A 3] A time fuze was used to set how far away the shells would explode (although they were commonly set to go off 1,000 metres (1,100 yd) away). Upon detonation, each of these shells would release 900 incendiary-filled tubes in a 20° cone facing towards incoming aircraft; a bursting charge was then used to explode the shell itself so that more steel splinters were created, and then the tubes would ignite. The tubes would burn for five seconds at about 3,000 °C (5,430 °F) and would start a flame that was around 5 metres (16 ft) long. Even though they comprised 40% of the total main ammunition load by 1944, 3 Shiki tsûjôdan were rarely used in combat against enemy aircraft due to the severe damage the firing of these shells inflicted on the barrels of the main guns; indeed, one of the shells may have exploded early and disabled one of Musashi's guns during the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea. The shells were intended to put up a barrage of flame that any aircraft attempting to attack would have to navigate through. However, U.S. pilots considered these shells to be more of a pyrotechnics display than a competent anti-aircraft weapon.

In the original design, the Yamato-class' secondary armament comprised twelve 6.1-inch (15 cm) guns mounted in four triple turrets (one forward, one aft, two midships), and twelve 5-inch (13 cm) guns in six double-turrets (three on each side amidships). In addition, the Yamato-class originally carried twenty-four 1-inch (2.5 cm) anti-aircraft guns, primarily mounted amidships. In 1944, Yamato—the sole remaining member of the class—underwent significant anti-aircraft upgrades, with the configuration of secondary armament changed to six 6.1-inch (15 cm) guns, twenty-four 5-inch (13 cm) guns, and one hundred and sixty-two 1-inch (2.5 cm) antiaircraft guns, in preparation for operations in Leyte Gulf.

The armament on Shinano was quite different from that of her sister vessels due to her conversion. As the carrier was designed for a support role, significant antiaircraft weaponry was installed on the vessel: sixteen 5-inch (13 cm) guns, one hundred twenty-five 1-inch (25 mm) antiaircraft guns, and three hundred thirty-six 5-inch (13 cm) antiaircraft rocket launchers in twelve twenty-eight barrel turrets. None of these guns were ever used against an enemy vessel or aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_class_battleship
>> No. 11582 ID: 263d6c
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Displacement:68,200 long tons (69,300 t) trial
69,988 long tons (71,111 t) standard[2]
72,000 long tons (73,000 t) full load.[2]
Length:256 m (839 ft 11 in) at water-line[3]
263 m (862 ft 10 in) overall[3]
Beam:38.9 m (127 ft 7 in)[3]
Draught:10.4 m (34 ft 1 in)
Propulsion:12 Kanpon boilers, driving 4 steam turbines
150,000 shp (110 MW)[3]
four 3-bladed propellers, 6 m (19 ft 8 in) diameter
Speed:27 knots (50 km/h)[3]
Endurance:7,200 nautical miles @ 16 knots (13,300 km @ 30 km/h)[3]
Complement:2,767[4]
Armament:
As built:
9 x 46.0 cm (18.1 in) guns (3×3).[2]
6 × 15.5 cm (6.1 in) guns (2×3).[2]
12 × 12.7 cm (5 in) guns (6×2).[2]
24 × 25 mm (0.98 in) AA guns (8×3)
26 × 13 mm (0.51 in) AA guns (2×2)[5]
Armor:650 mm (26 in) on face of main turrets[5]
410 mm (16 in) side armor (400 mm (16 in) on Musashi),[5] inclined 20 degrees
200 mm (8 in) armored deck (75%)
230 mm (9 in) armored deck (25%)[5]
Aircraft carried:4 Aichi E13A, 3 Mitsubishi F1M
2 catapults (Yamato, Musashi)
47 aircraft (Shinano)
>> No. 11583 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11584 ID: 263d6c
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USS Iowa (BB-61) fires a full broadside of her nine 16"/50 and six 5"/38 guns during a target exercise near Vieques Island, Puerto Rico (21°N 65°W). Note concussion effects on the water surface, and 16-inch gun barrels in varying degrees of recoil.
>> No. 11585 ID: 263d6c
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Battleship USS Iowa 16-inch guns in their turret.
>> No. 11586 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship 16 inch (406mm) shell.
>> No. 11587 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship New Jersey (BB-62) 16 inch (406mm) shell magazine.
>> No. 11588 ID: 263d6c
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Battleship USS Missouri (BB-63 'Mighty Mo') fires her 16 inch (406mm) guns.

I toured the Missouri in the early '80s. She was a museum (Japs signed their surrender on her deck) before she was fitted out for service during the Reagan administration. These four Iowa Class battlewagons were brought out of mothballs, fielded for a number of years, and put back into mothballs when the Navy realized how expensive they are to crew, fuel, and arm. That, and battleships are obsolete anachronisms in a modern navy, designed to destroy enemy battleships, but navies are reluctant to risk these expensive symbols of national prestige in combat (see Jutland). Later, used for shore bombardment, but bombers can do that job. Carrier airpower displayed their new dominance in WW2. Battleships were lastly used as Tomahawk cruise missile launchers in the 1991 Gulf War, a job that any similarly-armed ship or submarine could perform.
>> No. 11589 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11590 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship USS Missouri (BB-63 'Mighty Mo') forward 16 inch (406mm) guns.
>> No. 11591 ID: 263d6c
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11591
US battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) 16-inch shells and powder bags.
The factory that made these shells closed down and then the battleships were later decommissioned.
>> No. 11592 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11593 ID: 263d6c
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Load the kid.
>> No. 11594 ID: 263d6c
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11594
Japanese WW2 Yamato-class 46cm-45 (18.1 inch) Type 94 armor-piercing shell.
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