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File 136349204148.jpg - (213.14KB , 950x632 , North Korean 170mm selfpropelled guns.jpg )
11223 No. 11223 ID: 2a6916
Artillery Thread
Self propelled, towed, fixed, and man portable.
Rocket propelled and gun launched.
Nuclear and conventional, old and new.
If it is built to hurl something from Point A to Point B, you can discuss it here.


North Korean 170mm self propelled howitzers. The Norks might be a bit backwards but they appreciate artillery and seem to do a surprisingly good job at photographing their military.
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>> No. 11224 ID: 2a6916
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>>11223
Rocket artillery from a recent Nork firing demonstration. I am guessing these are 122mm grad type rockets.
>> No. 11225 ID: 2a6916
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>>11224
impacting
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>>11225
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>>11226
oddly enough these seem to be some of the better photos of rocket artillery in use that I've seen.
>> No. 11228 ID: 2a6916
  Either Pershing or Patton tanks being used as artillery during the early part of the Korean War. Also I think I recall Sherman tanks coming factory standard with equipment allowing them to carry out non-line of sight fire.
>> No. 11229 ID: 2a6916
  >>11228
http://books.google.com/books?id=SOTDzoncMroC&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=sherman+tank+indirect+fire+sight&source=bl&ots=xeO-025bHM&sig=diQMDQuTV7dw23qA04g1mVtwxoo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QkRFUcKiPOKY2AXvvoHgDw&ved=0CC
4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=sherman%20tank%20indirect%20fire%20sight&f=false

found a reference to it.

Just a video related to the general topic.
>> No. 11241 ID: 61959c
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>>11225
What island they're firing at?

>>11223
Gotta love those barrel's length.
>> No. 11242 ID: 2a6916
>>11241
it didn't say, although they did say the group firing is tasked with bombarding Daecheongdo and Baengnyeongdo Islands, so that might give an idea of general location.
>> No. 11244 ID: 263d6c
File 13636338871.jpg - (332.96KB , 1600x1067 , North Korean 170mm (6_69 inches) M-1978 (KOKSAN) s.jpg )
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North Korean 170mm (6.69 inches) M-1978 (KOKSAN) self propelled gun in Iraq.
>> No. 11245 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11246 ID: 263d6c
File 136363399633.jpg - (195.39KB , 1600x1067 , North Korean 170mm (6_69 inches) M-1978 (KOKSAN) s.jpg )
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Did the Iraqis ever take good care of their equipment?
>> No. 11247 ID: 263d6c
File 136363408849.jpg - (1.16MB , 3504x2336 , North Korean 170mm M-1978 (KOKSAN) SPG & US M-.jpg )
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North Korean 170mm M-1978 (KOKSAN) SPG & US M-88A2 Hercules recovery vehicle.
>> No. 11248 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11249 ID: 263d6c
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North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Iran.
>> No. 11250 ID: 263d6c
File 136363434461.jpg - (67.59KB , 929x650 , North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Ir.jpg )
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When playing board wargames like Korea '95, the most potent weapon of the North Koreans is all their artillery. They also have a lot of special forces, but their Queen of the Battlefield is artillery.
>> No. 11251 ID: 263d6c
File 136363436656.jpg - (59.01KB , 916x650 , North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Ir.jpg )
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>> No. 11252 ID: 263d6c
File 136363438727.jpg - (36.43KB , 902x650 , North Korean 170mm M1978 or M1989 KOKSAN SPG in Ir.jpg )
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>> No. 11253 ID: 263d6c
File 136363525868.jpg - (164.62KB , 1061x678 , North Korean 170mm M1989 Koksan SPH 1.jpg )
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M-1978 / M1989 (KOKSAN) 170mm self propelled (SP) gun
The M-1978 (KOKSAN) 170mm self propelled (SP) gun, of North Korean design and manufacture, is probably mounted on a T-54 chasis, a Chinese Type 59 hull or a T62 Chassis. The 170mm gun has no superstructure, and it has 2 large spades at the rear. The 170mm (~6.69") gun itself is a previously unknown type, possibly Russian coastal-defence or ex-naval weapon. The M-1978 Koksan gun was first noted publicly in a parade in 1985. The Koksan is named after the city in North Korea where it was first seen by the West in 1978. The M-1978 version carried no on-board ammunition supply.

The M1989 KOKSAN is a later version or modified M1978 which carries 12 rounds on-board ammunition supply. North Korea used them in batteries of 36 vehicles & supplied them to Iran when missiles became available as replacements.

During the Iran-Iraq War, key oil facilities of both nations were within artillery range of each other's armies. By June 1982, the Iraqis had been driven completely out of Iran. From that point on, Iraq spent most of the war on the defensive. In 1986 and the beginning of 1987, Iran launched new offensives, the last reaching the outskirts of Basra before again bogging down. Meanwhile, Iraq initiated a new tanker war in the Gulf, prompting Iran to target neutral shipping. Kuwait provided billions of dollars in loans and grants to support Iraq, and found itself in the middle of the combatants.

Iran acquired a number of M1978 Koksan guns from North Korea in 1987. "At that time, it was the longest-range field gun made anywhere in the world, capable of firing a rocket-assisted projectile to a range of almost 60 kilometers. It had been used by the Iranians to conduct harassment fire from the Al-Faw Peninsula into Kuwait's northeastern oil fields." [Ally to Adversary, page 27] With the Iran/Iraq War raging just to the north, fighting spilled over into Kuwait, and the steady pounding from the artillery barrages just to north shook the walls in Kuwait City.

Since 1993, the North has reinforced its artillery capability in the forward area. As of 1998 the South Korean military estimated that the DPRK had finished deploying 170mm self-propelled artillery with their range of over 50km and 240mm MRLS in the central and western areas, and was in the process of increasing deployment of these two weapons systems in the eastern area.

North Korea continues to improve its military. Highlighting these enhancements is an ambitious program to improve ground forces capabilities. A key component of this initiative involves the deployment of large numbers of long-range 240mm multiple rocket launcher systems and 170mm self-propelled guns to hardened sites located near the Demilitarized Zone. With the exception of the 170mm M-1978 Koksan gun, a new turreted self-propelled gun observed in a 1992 parade, and perhaps a few other systems, most artillery was developed from older Soviet and Chinese designs.

According to one report, a South Korean security analyst suggested that DPRK artillery pieces of calibers 170mm and 240mm "could fire 10,000 rounds per minute to Seoul and its environs." The number of Koksan guns is not publicly reported, but it is reliably reported that North Korea has about 500 long-range artillery tubes within range of Seoul, double the levels of a the mid-1990s. Large caliber self propelled artillery pieces typically have a sustained rate of fire of between four and eight rounds per minute. This suggests a total rate of fire of artillery alone of between 2,000 and 4,000 rounds per minute. The DPRK's two hundred 240mm MRLs fire either 12 or 22 rounds, providing a maximum single salvo of no more than 4,400 rounds.

North Korea is establishing a host of antitank defensive positions on the eastern and western fronts of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that bisects the two Koreas. The North Korean army has been building antitank defensive positions north of the Military Demarcation Line (MDL) in Kangwon Province since March 2001, and in early 2002 such positions were going up along the western front as well. It is exceptional for the North to build defensive facilities as its strategy has always centered on an offensive posture. The North has demanded that South Korea abolish its defensive concrete walls, designed to deter advancing North Korean tanks, south of the MDL. By January 2002 fifty more positions had reportedly been spotted on flat land and roads, which ensure that tanks and other vehicles can be conveniently maneuvered. The positions are reportedly five meter-high concrete structures with holes at the front, left and right for antitank guns. The structures are camouflaged by earth and sand after completion.

Given North Korea's reliance on artillery as the foundation of their combat power and the size of these positions, they are likely designed for self-propelled artillery pieces such as north Korea's Koksan Gun. The height of the positions is much more then is required to provide protection for either tanks or anti-tank guns. Tanks are usually employed "hull down" in which only the turret is exposed and anti-tank guns which have little use against modern armor, normally seek to fire at the flank of armored vehicles at close range in restricted terrain. Anti-tank guns are of little value against the K-1 and M-60s of south Korea's military. North Korea's only realistic chance to take out modern armor is with the use of anti-tank missiles, mines, or close infantry assault. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/m-1978-170.htm
>> No. 11254 ID: 263d6c
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German 17 cm SK L/40 railway gun.
The 17 cm SK L/40 (SK - Schnelladekanone (quick loading cannon) L - Länge (with a 40 caliber barrel) was a German naval gun that was used in World War I and World War II. Originally a naval gun, it was adapted for land service during World War I.

The 17 cm SK L/40 gun weighed 10.7 metric tons (10.5 long tons; 11.8 short tons), had an overall length of 6.904 meters (22 ft 7.8 in). Although designated as 17 centimeters (6.7 in), its actual caliber was 17.26 centimeters (6.80 in). It used the Krupp horizontal sliding block, or "wedge", as it is sometimes referred to, breech design rather than the interrupted screw used commonly used in heavy guns of other nations. This required that the propellant charge be loaded in a metal, usually brass, case which provides obduration i.e. seals the breech to prevent escape of the expanding propellant gas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_cm_SK_L/40_gun
>> No. 11255 ID: 263d6c
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Some more 170mm stuff.

German WW1 75.8mm Minenwerfer & 170mm Minenwerfer 1913 short model.
>> No. 11256 ID: 263d6c
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German WW1 170mm Minenwerfer a-A (early short-barrel model of 1913) traveling carriage.
>> No. 11257 ID: 263d6c
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German WW1 170mm Minenwerfer n-A (later long-barrel model 1916)
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>> No. 11259 ID: 263d6c
File 136363582890.jpg - (0.96MB , 2544x2764 , German WW1 170mm mittlerer Minenwerfer (17 cm mMW).jpg )
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German WW1 170mm mittlerer Minenwerfer (17 cm mMW) medium mortar.
>> No. 11260 ID: 263d6c
File 136363588145.jpg - (16.24KB , 536x157 , German WW2 170mm K18 field gun.jpg )
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German WW2 170mm K18 field gun.
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File 13636358931.jpg - (89.15KB , 539x900 , German WW2 170mm K18 field gun 2.jpg )
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>> No. 11262 ID: 263d6c
File 136363610542.jpg - (349.27KB , 2000x1352 , US WW1 7-inch (177mm), 45-caliber tractor-mounted .jpg )
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US WW1 7-inch (177mm), 45-caliber tractor-mounted gun.
>> No. 11263 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11274 ID: acc5a9
File 136373704171.jpg - (3.50MB , 2120x1500 , MLRS_Firing_2.jpg )
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M270 MLRS. For when you absolutely, positively have to kill every last motherfucker in a grid square.
>> No. 11275 ID: 2a6916
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>>11274
I remember back in middle school making a clay model of the MLRS in an art class. As it happens, tracks and the loading booms don't survive well when baked in a kiln.
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>>11275
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>>11276
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>> No. 11279 ID: 7cf9a5
File 13637476152.jpg - (129.64KB , 1024x768 , Astros_II_Malaysian_army_001.jpg )
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>> No. 11280 ID: 7cf9a5
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ASTROS II in action. I forgot when this picture was taken, though.
>> No. 11281 ID: bb97a6
What's the largest modern artillery gun?
>> No. 11282 ID: 263d6c
File 136390530899.jpg - (2.74MB , 3072x2304 , Russian 420mm (17-inch) self-propelled mortar 2B1 .jpg )
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>>11281
1957 is not so old, right?
420-mm (17-inch) self-propelled mortar 2B1 «Oka» and its shell in Saint-Petersburg Artillery museum.

2B1 Oka (Russian: 2Б1 Ока) is a Soviet 420 mm self-propelled gun. 2B1 is its GRAU designation.

An experimental model was ready in 1957. Its chassis (Object 273), was designed and built by the Kirov Plant. Its 20 meter barrel allowed it to fire 750 kg rounds up to 45 km. Due to its complexity of loading it had a relatively low rate of fire - 1 round every 5 minutes. Field tests showed various drawbacks of the entire design (the recoil was too strong for many components - it damaged drive sprockets, tore the gear-box away from its mountings, etc.) and the sheer length rendered it incredibly difficult to transport.

Its development continued until 1960, when the idea of such overpowered guns (along with the 2A3), was abandoned in favor of tactical ballistic missiles, such as the 2K6 Luna. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2B1_Oka
>> No. 11284 ID: 0a9437
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I want to say this is on Guadalcanal, but I'm not positive.
>> No. 11285 ID: 0a9437
File 136390675787.jpg - (69.35KB , 737x497 , US 105mm M119A1 lightweight towed (airmobile) howi.jpg )
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>> No. 11286 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11287 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11288 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11289 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11290 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11291 ID: 0a9437
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>> No. 11292 ID: 0a9437
File 136390705114.jpg - (129.54KB , 1280x889 , US 155mm M109 SPA used in checkpoint in Kosovo, lo.jpg )
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M-109 roadblock
>> No. 11298 ID: 263d6c
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US 280mm (11-inch) Atomic Cannon aka "Atomic Annie" 83.3 tons, 1951, fired a 550-lb 15 kiloton shell, max range 20 miles.

Atomic Annie was an artillery piece built by US that had the capability to fire nuclear ammunition. It was designed and developed during the early 1950s and was used in active service by 1953 in Europe and Korea. The first and only ever test of Atomic Annie was performed at the Nevada Test Site in 1953, it ended with a 15 kt shell being launched 7 miles into the Nevada desert. The launch proved to be the only nuclear shell ever fired with Atomic Annie.

As a result of the successful test, 20 more cannons were commissioned to be built at the cost of $800,000 each. After they were all built, more effective weapons had been developed and were being used, rendering the Atomic Annie obsolete.
>> No. 11299 ID: 263d6c
File 136391188619.jpg - (1.29MB , 2856x2142 , US nuke Atomic Cannon 280mm (11-inch) M65 at Aberd.jpg )
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An M65 Atomic Cannon at Aberdeen Proving Grounds
>> No. 11300 ID: 263d6c
  The 280mm M65 Gun at the Nevada Proving Ground - 1953 US Army Atomic Weapons Test
http://youtu.be/IXCWgqBSH8Q
On May 25, 1953 a 280mm M65 Atomic Cannon operated by the United States Army was tested at the Nevada Test Site as part of the Upshot-Knothole series of nuclear tests. The test resulted in the successful detonation of a 15 kt shell (warhead W9) at a range of 7 miles. Although missile technology and other methods of delivering atomic warheads were already well advance, the Army still manufactured at least 20 of these cannons which were deployed to locations in Europe and Korea. The 280mm cannons were retired from service in 1963.

Test Grable was the second of only four gun-type warheads ever detonated (the first was Little Boy, the weapon used against Hiroshima, the last two were test firings of the W33; all other atomic weapons were implosion-type weapons). The shell, designated a Mark 9 nuclear weapon, had a diameter of 280 mm (11.02 in), was 138 cm (54.4 in) long and weighed 364 kg (803 lb). The M65 Atomic Cannon from which it was fired had a muzzle velocity of 625 m/s (2,060 ft/s), for a nominal range of 32 km (20 mi), and weighed 77 metric tons (85 t).

The detonation of Grable occurred 19 seconds after its firing. It detonated over 11,000 yards (over 10 km, 6.25 mi) away from the gun it was fired from, over a part of the Nevada Test Site known as Frenchman Flat. The explosion was an air burst of 160 m (524 ft) above the ground (7 m (24 ft) above its designated burst altitude), 26 m (87 ft) west and 41 m (136 ft) south of its target (slightly uprange). Its yield was estimated at 15 kilotons, around the same level as Little Boy. An anomalous feature of the blast was the formation of a precursor, a second shock front ahead of the incident wave. This precursor was formed when the shock wave reflected off the ground and surpassed the incident wave and Mach stem due to a heated ground air layer and the low burst height. It resulted in a lower overpressure, but higher overall dynamic pressure, which inflicted much more damage on drag sensitive targets such as jeeps and personnel carriers. This led strategists to rethink the importance of low air bursts in tactical nuclear warfare.
>> No. 11301 ID: 2a6916
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11301
Keep getting a blank white screen when trying to post, hope this gets through and doesnt spit out a dozen reposts an hour from now.

>>11281
largest in what way? Size of the shell, length of the barrel, range, caliber? Russians have a self propelled 240mm mortar, that's probably the largest mortar in service. It has an assisted loading system to help out the crew with the breech loaded mortar and it can lob laser guided mortar shells that are apparently quite effective against targeted structures.

I don't recall too many modern howitzers above 155mm, but stuff like the Nork 170mm is an example. Also the 2S7 Pion and the M110 howitzer are both 203mm, but I don't know if you can still call them "modern" although they still have users.
>> No. 11303 ID: 263d6c
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>>11223
North Korean supreme leader, Kim Jong-un, digs the M1989 KOKSAN?
>> No. 11304 ID: 963c4b
File 136393340994.jpg - (391.07KB , 1600x1067 , Russian 240mm 2S4 M-1975 Tyulpan (tulip tree) bree.jpg )
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>>11301
Russian 240mm 2S4 M-1975 Tyulpan (tulip tree) breech-loading self-propelled mortar.
>> No. 11305 ID: 963c4b
File 136393343240.jpg - (234.50KB , 1024x768 , Russian 240mm 2s4 Tulpan or Tyulpan (tulip tree, M.jpg )
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>> No. 11306 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11449 ID: 388296
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>>11223

That Nork arty reminds me of the Tyburr model from Heavy Gear.
>> No. 11451 ID: a8afb0
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>Russians have a self propelled 240mm mortar
2A3's where 406mm.

Each round basically disintegrated the drive sprockets and made them pretty useless.

Not to mention they where prone to tipping over forward if they stopped moving suddenly.
>> No. 11453 ID: a8afb0
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>>11282
>>11451

Oh yeah, then there's the 420mm 2B1. Get the two mixed up.

Either way, classic example of Russians being Russian
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>>11451
lol the one in the background - you can tell it's front heavy just look at the tracks...

contributin' with TOS-1 thermobaric warhead rockets
>> No. 11456 ID: 2a6916
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>>11451
I didn't count those since they are long gone, I figured modern meant that they were at least still in service.

But yeah, Russians had a brief bout of madness after worldwar II. Heavy tanks, Bigger artillery, and so on. Almost a shame missiles caught on, would have been interesting to see where this led. (Intercontinental superguns? Self-propelled HARP cannons?) It is amusing that people in the west thought these Russian guns were mockups to scare people.
>> No. 11457 ID: 2a6916
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>>11456
interesting bit about that last pic. It is described as a 420mm self propelled RECOIL-LESS gun. It reminds me of a massive recoil-less cannon that the Russians built for a ship, I wonder if the projects were related. I think the designer made other... interesting projects but ended up earning a ticket to a gulag. I will see if I can dredge that info back up, sure I have an image and a name somewhere. (for some reason I think the guy's name had a "Y" in it.)
>> No. 11458 ID: 2a6916
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>>11457
305mm recoil-less cannon mounted on the Russian destroyer the Engles.

Leonid Kurchevsky was the creator, there was a Y but he was in a gulag from 1924-1929 for embezeling funds for a helicopter but got released early for his work on recoilless weapons. He pretty much liked strapping big guns on EVERYTHING. Apparently there was an aircraft with a 75mm gun, an automobile with a howitzer, and torpedo boat with a recoilless 150mm gun. and of course this crazy ship. Someone disliked his weapons enough that they sentenced him to death in 1937.
>> No. 11459 ID: 2a6916
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>>11457
photo of the C-130 gun during the test fire. Unfortunately it didn't survive.
>> No. 11460 ID: 2a6916
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>>11459
Part of the gun that broke off. Sorry for small photos, I can't find anything better.
>> No. 11461 ID: 2a6916
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>>11459
found a much better image. Also apparently the C-103 was designed by Vasiliy Garbin the same designer behind the famous Zis-3. The C-103 was tested and fired several times, but exploded TWICE during testing. First time was when the front and back of the weapon decided to part ways, and the second seems to be what was in the photo above.
>> No. 11462 ID: acc5a9
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>>11458
Recoilless oddities? Can't get much better than the Davis gun. Very primitive design (invented in 1910) using a counter-force system instead of the usual open tube. One barrel would face "forward" firing the payload, the other faced backwards and discharged an equal weight of grease and lead balls. Came in 2-, 6- and 12-pounder variants. The strangest part is that it was mounted primarily on aircraft as an anti-submarine and anti-zeppelin weapon. This seems to have great potential for disaster, since the aircraft of the era were made of canvas and wood.
>> No. 11465 ID: 2a6916
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2S19 MSTA-S 152mm howitzer.
(a 155mm variant, 2S19M1-155, was created in 2006)
Entered service in 1989, over 800 of them are active in Russia.
Built on a T-80 hull but with a T-72 engine.
>> No. 11466 ID: 2a6916
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>>11465
Can fire a variety of base bleed and rocket assisted munitions from it's autoloader. It can also fire laser guided munitions although only a modified variant of the round is small enough to fit the autoloader.

The turret seems rather large.
>> No. 11467 ID: 2a6916
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>>11466
>> No. 11468 ID: 2a6916
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>>11467
not sure how much camouflage or protection this was intended to provide.
>> No. 11469 ID: acc5a9
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>>11465
2S35 Koalitsiya-SV, designed to replace the 2S19. Features an over/under autoloading 152mm gun.
>> No. 11470 ID: 2a6916
File 136408686555.jpg - (38.98KB , 640x480 , img-2s19-msta-koalitsiya-sv17.jpg )
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>>11469
beat me to it.

As if the turret wasn't massive enough...

Also I wonder how much this thing weighs and how many rounds it can carry. An increased rate of fire won't mean much if you need an ammo carrier parked next to it. With two guns, two autoloaders, the crew, and the necessary mechanisms to elevate guns that total as twice the weight and rotate a turret that is a good deal heavier...how much ammo can you reasonably expect to hold?
>> No. 11496 ID: 3a9c19
>>11470
iirc 48 in the revolving magazine, and can use it up in 3 minutes of continuous fire
>> No. 11497 ID: 963c4b
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>>11274
MLRS is packed with 13-foot long 227mm (8.94 inch) rockets.
Or packing up to two mighty Lockheed Martin MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System (ATacMS) that are 13 feet high and 24 inches in diameter.
>> No. 11498 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11499 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11500 ID: 963c4b
File 136411622140.jpg - (160.06KB , 1000x795 , US bomb MLRS (M270) fires M26 rockets or ATACMS mi.jpg )
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>> No. 11501 ID: 963c4b
File 136411630841.jpg - (176.88KB , 1778x1379 , US bomb MLRS HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocke.jpg )
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US HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) firing ATACMS missiles.
>> No. 11502 ID: 963c4b
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11502
US HIMARS packs 6 rockets or 1 ATACMS missile on a 6x6 AWD 5-ton truck.
Because those tracked MLRS vehicles are expensive.
>> No. 11538 ID: 2a6916
File 136424687686.jpg - (55.18KB , 800x369 , 1331858043_3.jpg )
11538
A-80 535mm self propelled artillery. Proposal from the 60s. Was expected to lob 2,000lb shells beyond 10km, or fire missiles to ranges of beyond 70km. Trying to get information but everything is in Russian and Google translate can only do so much.
>> No. 11539 ID: 2a6916
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>>11538
A-80C variant of the project.
"Gun mounted on the chassis of the crawler type MT-T"
Breech loaded
>> No. 11540 ID: 2a6916
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11540
>>11539
final proposal of the project.
D-80-2
>> No. 11577 ID: acc5a9
File 136435746744.jpg - (565.20KB , 3000x2274 , KoreanWarNavyGunfire.jpg )
11577
If you want to talk almighty firepower, here's your answer. The greatest battleship ever built, mounting nine 16 inch/50 caliber Mark 7 guns: BB-63, the USS Missouri. Also sporting two dual-mount 5 inch/38 caliber Mark 12 cannon, 20 quad-mounted Bofors 40mm autocannons, and 49 Oerlikon 20mm guns, and refitted with the Phalanx CIWS and two kinds of missiles in the 1980s.

Today this legendary ship sits at anchor in Pearl Harbour, a museum to wars fought long ago. Struck from the naval register, but not forgotten. What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
>> No. 11578 ID: 2a6916
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>>11577
Pretty sure the Yamato wins the battleship dick swinging competition. It has 9 18-inch guns, largest ever fitted to a battleship. Called the "40 cm/45 Type 94 naval gun" the guns are actually 46cm and was named to hide it's true size. Also had some interesting anti-aircraft shells for the guns. Listed range is 4km farther than the Mark7s.
>> No. 11579 ID: 263d6c
File 136439928448.jpg - (28.99KB , 481x478 , Japan WW2 Yamato Design A-150, aka Super Yamato cl.jpg )
11579
>>11578
The Brits considered making a fast battlecruiser, the HMS Incomparable, in 1915 with gigantic 20-inch (508mm) guns. The Japanese began work on a Super Yamato Class with 20-inch (510mm) guns.

Design A-150, also known as the Super Yamato class, was an Imperial Japanese plan for a class of battleships. Begun in 1938–39, the design was mostly complete by 1941. However, so that a demand for other types of warships could be met, all work on Design A-150 was halted and no keels were laid. Authors William H. Garzke and Robert O. Dulin have argued that Design A-150 would have been the "most powerful battleships in history" because of the massive size of their main battery of eight 510 mm (20 in) guns as well as numerous smaller caliber weapons.

Initial plans for the A-150 battleships called for eight or nine 510 mm (20.1 in) guns in quadruple or triple turrets. The successful construction of a 480 mm (18.9 in) gun in 1920–1921 made the Japanese confident that a 510 mm (20.1 in) could be built. In addition, a top speed of 30 kn (35 mph; 56 km/h) was desired so that the class would be faster than the United States' 27 kn (31 mph; 50 km/h) North Carolina-class battleships. However, these grand specifications were curtailed when tests culminated in a ship that had a displacement of some 90,000 tons; it was felt that ships of this size would be "too large and too expensive". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_A-150_battleship
>> No. 11580 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11581 ID: 263d6c
File 136440842291.jpg - (179.80KB , 1800x1200 , Japan WW2 Yamato model 1.jpg )
11581
The Yamato-class battleships (大和型戦艦 Yamato-gata senkan?) were battleships of the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) constructed and operated during World War II. Displacing 72,000 long tons (73,000 t) at full load, the vessels were the heaviest and most powerfully armed battleships ever constructed. The class carried the largest naval artillery ever fitted to a warship, nine 460-millimetre (18.1 in) naval guns, each capable of firing 2,998-pound (1,360 kg) shells over 26 miles (42 km). Two battleships of the class (Yamato and Musashi) were completed, while a third (Shinano) was converted to an aircraft carrier during construction.

Due to the threat of American submarines and aircraft carriers, both Yamato and Musashi spent the majority of their careers in naval bases at Brunei, Truk, and Kure—deploying on several occasions in response to American raids on Japanese bases—before participating in the Battle of Leyte Gulf in October 1944, as part of Admiral Kurita's Centre Force. Musashi was sunk during the course of the battle by American carrier airplanes. Shinano was sunk ten days after her commissioning in November 1944 by the submarine USS Archer-Fish, while Yamato was sunk in April 1945 during Operation Ten-Go.

Although the primary armament of the Yamato-class was officially designated as the 40 cm/45 caliber (15.9 in) Type 94, it actually took the form of nine 46 cm/45 caliber (18.1 in) guns—the largest guns ever fitted to a warship—mounted in three 3-gun turrets, each of which weighed 2,774 metric tons. Each gun was 21.13 metres (69.3 ft) long and weighed 147.3 metric tons (145.0 long tons). High-explosive armour-piercing shells were used which were capable of being fired 42.0 kilometres (26.1 mi) at a rate of 1½ to 2 per minute. The main guns were also capable of firing 1,360 kg (3,000 lb) 3 Shiki tsûjôdan ("Common Type 3") anti-aircraft shells.[A 3] A time fuze was used to set how far away the shells would explode (although they were commonly set to go off 1,000 metres (1,100 yd) away). Upon detonation, each of these shells would release 900 incendiary-filled tubes in a 20° cone facing towards incoming aircraft; a bursting charge was then used to explode the shell itself so that more steel splinters were created, and then the tubes would ignite. The tubes would burn for five seconds at about 3,000 °C (5,430 °F) and would start a flame that was around 5 metres (16 ft) long. Even though they comprised 40% of the total main ammunition load by 1944, 3 Shiki tsûjôdan were rarely used in combat against enemy aircraft due to the severe damage the firing of these shells inflicted on the barrels of the main guns; indeed, one of the shells may have exploded early and disabled one of Musashi's guns during the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea. The shells were intended to put up a barrage of flame that any aircraft attempting to attack would have to navigate through. However, U.S. pilots considered these shells to be more of a pyrotechnics display than a competent anti-aircraft weapon.

In the original design, the Yamato-class' secondary armament comprised twelve 6.1-inch (15 cm) guns mounted in four triple turrets (one forward, one aft, two midships), and twelve 5-inch (13 cm) guns in six double-turrets (three on each side amidships). In addition, the Yamato-class originally carried twenty-four 1-inch (2.5 cm) anti-aircraft guns, primarily mounted amidships. In 1944, Yamato—the sole remaining member of the class—underwent significant anti-aircraft upgrades, with the configuration of secondary armament changed to six 6.1-inch (15 cm) guns, twenty-four 5-inch (13 cm) guns, and one hundred and sixty-two 1-inch (2.5 cm) antiaircraft guns, in preparation for operations in Leyte Gulf.

The armament on Shinano was quite different from that of her sister vessels due to her conversion. As the carrier was designed for a support role, significant antiaircraft weaponry was installed on the vessel: sixteen 5-inch (13 cm) guns, one hundred twenty-five 1-inch (25 mm) antiaircraft guns, and three hundred thirty-six 5-inch (13 cm) antiaircraft rocket launchers in twelve twenty-eight barrel turrets. None of these guns were ever used against an enemy vessel or aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_class_battleship
>> No. 11582 ID: 263d6c
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Displacement:68,200 long tons (69,300 t) trial
69,988 long tons (71,111 t) standard[2]
72,000 long tons (73,000 t) full load.[2]
Length:256 m (839 ft 11 in) at water-line[3]
263 m (862 ft 10 in) overall[3]
Beam:38.9 m (127 ft 7 in)[3]
Draught:10.4 m (34 ft 1 in)
Propulsion:12 Kanpon boilers, driving 4 steam turbines
150,000 shp (110 MW)[3]
four 3-bladed propellers, 6 m (19 ft 8 in) diameter
Speed:27 knots (50 km/h)[3]
Endurance:7,200 nautical miles @ 16 knots (13,300 km @ 30 km/h)[3]
Complement:2,767[4]
Armament:
As built:
9 x 46.0 cm (18.1 in) guns (3×3).[2]
6 × 15.5 cm (6.1 in) guns (2×3).[2]
12 × 12.7 cm (5 in) guns (6×2).[2]
24 × 25 mm (0.98 in) AA guns (8×3)
26 × 13 mm (0.51 in) AA guns (2×2)[5]
Armor:650 mm (26 in) on face of main turrets[5]
410 mm (16 in) side armor (400 mm (16 in) on Musashi),[5] inclined 20 degrees
200 mm (8 in) armored deck (75%)
230 mm (9 in) armored deck (25%)[5]
Aircraft carried:4 Aichi E13A, 3 Mitsubishi F1M
2 catapults (Yamato, Musashi)
47 aircraft (Shinano)
>> No. 11583 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11584 ID: 263d6c
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USS Iowa (BB-61) fires a full broadside of her nine 16"/50 and six 5"/38 guns during a target exercise near Vieques Island, Puerto Rico (21°N 65°W). Note concussion effects on the water surface, and 16-inch gun barrels in varying degrees of recoil.
>> No. 11585 ID: 263d6c
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Battleship USS Iowa 16-inch guns in their turret.
>> No. 11586 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship 16 inch (406mm) shell.
>> No. 11587 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship New Jersey (BB-62) 16 inch (406mm) shell magazine.
>> No. 11588 ID: 263d6c
File 136441088510.jpg - (194.18KB , 1600x1080 , US battleship USS Missouri (BB-63 'Mighty Mo&.jpg )
11588
Battleship USS Missouri (BB-63 'Mighty Mo') fires her 16 inch (406mm) guns.

I toured the Missouri in the early '80s. She was a museum (Japs signed their surrender on her deck) before she was fitted out for service during the Reagan administration. These four Iowa Class battlewagons were brought out of mothballs, fielded for a number of years, and put back into mothballs when the Navy realized how expensive they are to crew, fuel, and arm. That, and battleships are obsolete anachronisms in a modern navy, designed to destroy enemy battleships, but navies are reluctant to risk these expensive symbols of national prestige in combat (see Jutland). Later, used for shore bombardment, but bombers can do that job. Carrier airpower displayed their new dominance in WW2. Battleships were lastly used as Tomahawk cruise missile launchers in the 1991 Gulf War, a job that any similarly-armed ship or submarine could perform.
>> No. 11589 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11590 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship USS Missouri (BB-63 'Mighty Mo') forward 16 inch (406mm) guns.
>> No. 11591 ID: 263d6c
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US battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) 16-inch shells and powder bags.
The factory that made these shells closed down and then the battleships were later decommissioned.
>> No. 11592 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11593 ID: 263d6c
File 136441114228.jpg - (100.31KB , 637x900 , US bomb 16 inch projectile next to a baby.jpg )
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Load the kid.
>> No. 11594 ID: 263d6c
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11594
Japanese WW2 Yamato-class 46cm-45 (18.1 inch) Type 94 armor-piercing shell.
>> No. 11595 ID: 263d6c
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11595
Japanese Yamato-class 46cm-45 (18.1 inch) Type 94 high-explosive shell.
>> No. 11596 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11597 ID: 263d6c
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Japanese WW2 battleship Yamato running full-power trials in Sukumo Bay, 1941.
>> No. 11598 ID: 263d6c
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German WW2 800mm Dora & Schwerer Gustav Krupp railway gun's 7 ton AP shell next to a Soviet T-34/85 tank.
>> No. 11599 ID: 263d6c
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11599
German WW2 800mm Dora railway gun, being displayed to Hitler.
Smashed up Sevastopol, then sent north to shell Leningrad in 1944. Disassembled and ditched before she could be captured. Required a huge crew and support structure to operate and supply it.
>> No. 11600 ID: 263d6c
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German WW2 800mm Schwerer Gustav kanone, 29m barrel, 1350 tonnes, fired a 4.8 ton HE shell 47km or a 7 ton shell 37km.
>> No. 11601 ID: 263d6c
File 13644125168.jpg - (81.91KB , 1024x768 , German WW2 800mm Dora rail road gun model 2.jpg )
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>> No. 11602 ID: 263d6c
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German WW2 800mm Schwerer Gustav 80cm K (E) Krupp railway gun.

As you can see, she required side-by-side rail lines (difficult to find in the Soviet Union) and only the strongest bridges could support her.
>> No. 11603 ID: 263d6c
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German WW2 800mm Schwerer Gustav took 25 trainloads of equipment, 2000 troops to crew, and 6 weeks to assemble.
>> No. 11604 ID: 263d6c
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German WW2 800mm Dora cannon French language propaganda poster 'The Power of German - guarantor of her victory'
>> No. 11605 ID: 263d6c
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11605
80 cm K gun (Krupp) Schwerer Gustav projectile.
Picture taken at the United States Army Ordnance Museum (Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD) on June 12, 2007.
>> No. 11606 ID: 263d6c
File 136441427742.jpg - (1.50MB , 3648x2736 , German WW2 800mm Dora model 1.jpg )
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>> No. 11612 ID: 2a6916
  Peaceful Artillery. Project HARP
>> No. 11614 ID: 2a6916
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>>11612
The video mentions an attempt by the US Military to use a version of the HARP to act as an anti-missile defense system. This was not a unique proposal as China had been working on a missile defense system between the 60s and 1980. Their defense system comprised of several elements; massive radars and command centers built into mountains, "FanJi" interceptor missiles (to my eyes they seem similar in appearance to the Sprint missiles of the US Safeguard Program), and lastly a supergun called the "XianFeng".

The "XianFeng" or "Pioneer" was designed to fire unguided rocket assisted projectiles at incoming nuclear missiles. The original gun (pic related) was 140mm and part of "Project 640-2" and was capable of lobbing an 18kg projectile 74km. In the late 60s, XianFeng was proposed as a 420mm gun capable of lobbing a 160kg rocket propelled projectile. Tests were successfully carried out in the 1970s but the gun was determined to not be accurate enough to be practical.

Pic is the 140mm gun from Project 640-2. (Directive 640 being Mao's call to develop strategic defenses in 1963.) Cant find any other pictures yet of the 640-2 or the scaled up XianFeng, yet.
>> No. 11615 ID: 263d6c
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>>11612
Like the Space Gun in H.G. Wells' The Shape of Things to Come?
Made into a movie in 1936.
>> No. 11616 ID: 263d6c
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>> No. 11617 ID: 263d6c
  Things to Come (1936) - 9
http://youtu.be/QqsCE0XfcHw
Directed by: William Cameron Menzies
Produced by: Alexander Korda
Written by: H.G. Wells

Space gun after 4:00
>> No. 11660 ID: 2a6916
  video detailing the Little David in emplacement, firing, and effects.

13 foot deep craters on instantaneous fuse settings, wonder how much it could dig out if it had a delayed fuse.
>> No. 11673 ID: 963c4b
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>>11660
Little David was the nickname of an American 36 inches (910 mm) caliber mortar used for test firing aerial bombs during World War II, that is one of the largest caliber guns ever built, having a larger caliber than both of Germany's Dora and Gustav which were 31.5 inches (800 mm) railway guns. Great Britain's Mallet's Mortar had a caliber of the same size.

The mortar was originally used as the launching mechanism for test-firing aerial bombs at Aberdeen Proving Ground (during the war, bombs became larger and larger necessitating the construction of such a large caliber gun). Little David was therefore not intended as a combat weapon. The mortar's base was a large steel box. The base was placed below ground, with its top flush with the surrounding surface, allowing the mortar's muzzle to be lowered horizontal for loading at ground level.

By 1944, it was expected that the US forces would encounter extremely strong fortifications during the expected invasion of Japan. Studies began on using Little David as a siege mortar. The mortar was converted into a two piece mobile unit, consisting of the 80,000 pounds (36,000 kg) barrel and the 93,000 pounds (42,000 kg) base transported by two artillery tractors. In addition to the two main loads, the Little David unit would also include a bulldozer and crane with bucket to dig the emplacement for the mortar's base.

The huge mortar could be ready to fire in 12 hours, while the largest (800 mm) known German artillery weapons were hauled on 25 railway cars and required three weeks to put in firing position.

Little David was one of the largest artillery pieces ever produced, by caliber, although Dora fired a heavier shell. Little David's overall effectiveness would have been questionable because of its limited range and accuracy. When Japan surrendered the invasion became unnecessary, and Little David (still in its trial phase) never saw combat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_David

- Shell from the US 36-inch (914 mm) mortar en:Little David, at the United States Army Ordnance Museum (Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD).
>> No. 11674 ID: 963c4b
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11674
US WW2 914mm (36-inch) bunker cracking mortar, Little David, was used to test aerial bombs.
>> No. 11675 ID: 963c4b
File 136462317745.jpg - (73.31KB , 800x519 , US WW2 914mm 36-inch mortar, Little David, mortar&.jpg )
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Little David mortar's base assembly weighs 93,000lbs.
>> No. 11676 ID: 963c4b
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11676
>> No. 11677 ID: 963c4b
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11677
US WW2 914mm L-7.79 mortar, 8.53m long, 40640kg barrel, 1678kg shell, range 6 miles.
>> No. 11678 ID: 963c4b
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US WW2 914mm T-1 shell, 3650lb packed with 1600lb of high explosive, made a crater 13ft deep and 39ft in diameter in 1943.
>> No. 11679 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11680 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11681 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11682 ID: 963c4b
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US WW2 914mm T21 Little David mortar 1944, Aberdeen Proving Grounds.
>> No. 11683 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11684 ID: 963c4b
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Another 36-inch mortar: Mallet's mortar at Fort Nelson (Royal Armouries).
Mallet's Mortar was a British shell-firing mortar built for the Crimean War, but never used in combat.

The mortar was designed by Robert Mallet. It was constructed in sections so that it could be transported.

Robert Mallet first made his design public in 1854. There was little response from the authorities until Mallet wrote to the then Prime Minister Lord Palmerston in March 1855. Palmerston was taken with the idea and instructed Board of Ordnance to arrange for the construction of two mortars of Mallet's design.

Thames Ironworks and Shipbuilding Company won the contract at a price of £4,300 per mortar. The company's bankruptcy resulted in the work being divided among three firms which managed to deliver the mortars in May 1857.

Testing began on 19 October 1857 with further testing on 18 December 1857, 21 July 1858 and 28 of July 1858. Each test was brought to an end by damage to the mortar. A total of 19 rounds were fired with a rate of about 4 shells an hour being achieved.

Shell weight was between 2,352 and 2,940 pounds (1,067 and 1,334 kg). In testing with an 80 pound charge it fired the lighter shell a distance of 2,759 yards (2,523 m) with a flight time of 23 seconds.
>> No. 11685 ID: 963c4b
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Mallet's Mortar - 36 inch bore, weighing in at 40 tons, loaded with 217kg of gunpowder.
>> No. 11686 ID: 963c4b
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The 36 inch shells contained 480 lb (217 kg) of gunpowder.
Tested with an 80 pound charge to lob the 2,352 pound shells.
>> No. 11687 ID: 963c4b
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Mallet's Mortar 1855 specs.
>> No. 11688 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11690 ID: 963c4b
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>> No. 11693 ID: b1f789
File 136465834677.jpg - (3.10MB , 3264x2448 , 20-inch_ship's_cast-iron_cannon.jpg )
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20-inch Tsar Cannon, Perm, Russia
>> No. 11699 ID: 2a6916
  Fort Knox fire demonstration. 1960s Showing off several tanks, and relevant to this thread, 4 self propelled artillery pieces.
>> No. 11772 ID: 3f9b86
>>11693
ok guys, time to reload.

>shiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeettt
>> No. 11853 ID: 1bddb7
File 136566730626.jpg - (285.51KB , 1024x742 , 1024px-Moscow_July_2011-10a.jpg )
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>>11693
And the other Tsar cannon outside the Kremlin, which has a bore of 35 inches. Each of the cannonballs weighs one ton, but are decorative and are actually too large to fit in the cannon, which was intended to fire a 800kg load of stone grapeshot.
>> No. 11854 ID: 1bddb7
File 136566766934.jpg - (163.43KB , 1024x768 , 1024px-Great_Turkish_Bombard_at_Fort_Nelson.jpg )
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A Turkish Dardanelles Gun. 63cm bore, the ball and powder are in a separate part that screws onto the barrel. They where originally cast c1450 for the Siege of Constantinople, with one of the guns being used again in 1807 to bombard some Royal Navy ships.
>> No. 13891 ID: 0bfdfb
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>>11772

I loled.

>>11451

Oh Jesus, my sides.

Image is a French railway gun from WWI. Sorry, no details on location or circumstances of service; I just dug this up on Bing so that I'd have something to contribute.
>> No. 13894 ID: 2a6916
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Find yourself with a lot of aviation ordinance just lying around? In demand for some serious artillery? Strap rockets to it and away you go! Interesting idea but perhaps effective. Want a guided airstrike but cant seem to hold air superiority? Just lob a russian made guided bomb in the general direction.
>> No. 13895 ID: 2a6916
File 137886479751.jpg - (228.84KB , 1280x581 , 65178_98321881_RS%20Z-Z%20Kosava.jpg )
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>>13894
Bl-755 Cluster bombs + rockets + YugoSlavs = ????
>> No. 14004 ID: 1f19f4
>launching and air strike
>from the ground

how...meta
>> No. 14005 ID: 3a9c19
File 137934643943.jpg - (15.06KB , 300x407 , hahaha.jpg )
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>>13894
Ingenuity
>> No. 16312 ID: 00a13e
File 139717968427.jpg - (161.92KB , 1024x768 , US WW2 8-inch M1 69,300-lbs 240-lb shell to 35,600.jpg )
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M1 8-inch gun weighed 69,300 pounds and pushed a 240 pound shell to 35,600 yards (with a 90 pound super charge).
>> No. 16313 ID: 00a13e
File 139717973776.jpg - (0.99MB , 2016x1512 , US WW2 8-inch M1 gun at Aberdeen 1.jpg )
16313
At the United States Army Ordnance Museum (Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD)
>> No. 16314 ID: 00a13e
File 139717993657.jpg - (668.47KB , 1859x1145 , US WW2 8-inch M1 coastal defense gun Oklahoma City.jpg )
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An 8-in coastal defense gun M1, 45th Infantry Division Museum, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma / 2008.

Oklahoma has a coast?
>> No. 16315 ID: 00a13e
File 139718017554.jpg - (159.95KB , 1280x960 , US WW2 203mm M115 (aka M1) 8-inch Howitzer towed b.jpg )
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US WW2 203mm M115 (aka M1) 8-inch Howitzer towed by an M4A1 18-ton High Speed Artillery Tractor.
>> No. 16316 ID: 00a13e
File 139718117151.jpg - (248.07KB , 1766x1190 , US WW2 8-inch Howitzer Gun Carrage M43 in Korea 19.jpg )
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Crew of the 780th Field Artillery Battalion, US 8th Army, 8-inch howitzer strain to load the 200-pound high explosive round, near the 38th parallel in Korea, late 1950. The weapon is not a standard M43 SP 8-in, but a hybrid made from the carriage of a self-propelled 155mm gun mated with the 8-inch tube and breach block.
>> No. 16317 ID: 00a13e
File 139718140171.jpg - (119.23KB , 1278x977 , US WW2 155mm Gun Motor Carriage M40 Korean War cir.jpg )
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937th Field Artillery Battalion firing M-40 Gun Motor Carriage, 155mm Self-propelled Howitzers during the Soyang River battle, Korean War, circa May 1951.
>> No. 16318 ID: 00a13e
File 139718146752.jpg - (1.03MB , 2016x1512 , US WW2 155mm Gun Motor Carriage M40 widened & .jpg )
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US WW2 155mm Gun Motor Carriage M40 on a widened & lengthened M4A3 tank chassis.
>> No. 16321 ID: 9edf79
>>14004

It's just that... all air strikes start from the ground.
>> No. 16322 ID: 00a13e
File 139726048664.gif - (35.05KB , 600x189 , religion free will or preordination 2.gif )
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>>16321
Groovy, brother.

FOXTROT, by Bill Amend
Jason: Go Deep.
Marcus: How can free will coexist with divine preordination?
Jason: Too deep.
Marcus: If Batman died, would the Joker be happy?
>> No. 16325 ID: 8d6850
>>16321

But... what if instead of from the ground, they were actually launched from the sea? I know it sounds implausible but I bet if anyone came up with some kind of flat-top destroyer that could launch planes... it might just change warfare as we know it!
>> No. 16327 ID: 00a13e
File 13976968779.jpg - (58.47KB , 445x661 , US helo UH-1 Liberty Ship freighter carrier.jpg )
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>>16325
Radical ideas!
Fund it!
>> No. 16328 ID: 00a13e
File 139769693299.jpg - (132.05KB , 800x535 , US helo UH-1E HAL-4 LST-821, Oct 1967.jpg )
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>> No. 16370 ID: 1ee201
>>11244
>>11245
>>11246
These guns look distinctly German in appearance. They did use 17cm guns as well and the muzzle brake is pretty much identical.

I wonder if theres more to them than just a striking resemblance.
>> No. 16378 ID: e1fa77
File 139887976115.jpg - (1.05MB , 2016x1512 , 17_cm_K_18_MrsLaf_3.jpg )
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>>16370
Quite plausible. To quote the Wikipedia article:
>he 170 mm gun itself is a previously unknown type, possibly Russian coastal-defence or ex-naval weapon, though the Soviet/Russian navies are not known to have used this caliber intermediate between their usual 152mm and 180mm calibers. Pre-1945 German armed forces did, however, so perhaps this weapon was designed to use Soviet-supplied stocks of captured German wartime ammunition.

It bears a very distinct similarity to the German 17cm Kanone 18 as well, right down to the paint scheme. My bet is that after the war, the Soviets funnelled a lot of captured equipment into the Maoists, who likely sent it to North Korea after they modernized into the PLA.
>> No. 16379 ID: 00a13e
File 139890258760.jpg - (0.96MB , 2016x1512 , German WW2 170mm Kanone 18 Morserlafette (Heavy Ho.jpg )
16379
>>11261
German WW2 170mm K18 field gun.
Can't really see all that much of a resemblance. Apart from her being a long-barrel artillery piece. The machinery around the tube and mount is dissimilar.

The 17 cm Kanone 18 in Mörserlafette (German: Heavy Howitzer Carriage) (17 cm K 18 in MrsLaf) was a German heavy gun used in the Second World War. It was intended to be employed at the Corps level in order to provide long-range counter-battery support. It filled the same basic role as the 21 cm Mörser 18 as well as sharing its carriage, and replaced it entirely after 1942. Although it was technically an excellent weapon, it was expensive, difficult to maneuver, and very slow to set up and tear down; many were lost when their crews abandoned them to avoid capture by advancing Allied forces.

- 17 cm K 18 in MrsLaf at the United States Army Ordnance Museum (Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD) on August 14, 2007.
>> No. 16380 ID: 00a13e
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>> No. 16381 ID: 00a13e
File 139890294174.jpg - (1.86MB , 1970x1017 , German WW2 210mm Morser 18 (heavy howitzer) 1.jpg )
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Not to be confused with the 21 cm Mörser 18.
The 21 cm Mörser 18 (heavy howitzer) (21 cm Mrs 18) was a German heavy howitzer used in the Second World War by independent artillery battalions and batteries. A number were also used by coast defense artillery units.

The Mrs 18 was designed to replace the obsolescent World War I-era 21 cm Mrs 16. While the gun design itself was nothing innovative, the same cannot be said for the carriage. It was one of the first weapons, if not the first in quantity production, that used the interesting dual-recoil system. The barrel recoiled normally in its cradle, but, in addition, the whole top carriage, which carried the barrel and its cradle, recoiled across the main part of the carriage. This system damped out the recoil forces and made for a very steady firing platform. This carriage was also used for the 17 cm Kanone 18 in Mörserlafette and the 15 cm Schnelladekanone C/28 in Mörserlafette.

The Mrs 18 was an enormous weapon that was transported in two pieces, as was common for such large weapons. For travel the barrel was slid on to a separate trailer. The carriage carried an integral firing platform that was lowered to the ground when emplacing the howitzer. The wheels were then cranked up off the ground and it was now ready for firing. A rear castor-wheel jack was used to raise the rear spade off the ground if the gun needed to be traversed more than the 16° allowed by the mount proper.

The Mrs 18 entered production at a low rate in 1939 shortly before the war began. The Germans cancelled production in 1942 in lieu of its smaller brother, the 17 cm Kanone 18 in Mörserlafette, which could fire almost twice as far, but resumed production in 1943. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_cm_M%C3%B6rser_18

- Fancifully-painted Mrs 18 at the US Army Field Artillery Museum, Ft. Sill, OK.
>> No. 16382 ID: 00a13e
File 13989032105.jpg - (1.99MB , 2173x1120 , German WW2 210mm Morser 18 (heavy howitzer) 2.jpg )
16382
The pink and white coloring makes this look like a Hello Kitty happy fun heavy howitzer.
>> No. 16383 ID: 00a13e
File 13989037026.jpg - (257.68KB , 1969x886 , German WW2 170mm K 18 MrsLaf 4.jpg )
16383
German 17cm Kanone 18 Heavy Gun
>> No. 16384 ID: 00a13e
File 139890380219.jpg - (1.84MB , 2410x1550 , German WW2 150mm sFH-18 heavy field howitzer.jpg )
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The 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 18 or sFH 18 (German: "heavy field howitzer, model 18"), nicknamed Immergrün ("Evergreen"), was the basic German division-level heavy howitzer during the Second World War, serving alongside the smaller but more numerous 10.5 cm leFH 18. It was based on the earlier, First World War-era design of the 15 cm sFH 13, and while improved over that weapon, it was generally outdated compared to the weapons it faced. It was, however, the first artillery weapon equipped with rocket-assisted ammunition to increase range. The sFH 18 was also used in the self-propelled artillery piece schwere Panzerhaubitze 18/1 (more commonly known as Hummel).

The sFH 18 was one of Germany's three main 15 cm calibre weapons, the others being the 15 cm Kanone 18, a corps-level heavy gun, and the 15 cm sIG 33, a short-barreled infantry gun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sFH_18

- German 150 mm sFH18 howitzer displayed on the grounds of CFB Borden (Base Borden Military Museum).
>> No. 16385 ID: e1fa77
>>16379
Maybe. One source I've got here is saying the Koksan uses a screw-breech, while the K18 had a horizontal-block action. That's not mentioned anywhere else however, and none of the pictures I can find have a view of the breech mechanism. And the Koksan would be modernized to use hydraulic elevation and traverse, which the K18 didn't. It's got the dual cylinders on the front, the barrel stepdown, one central tube on top of the barrel, and shares an odd caliber.
>> No. 16841 ID: b52c37
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Sweden is developing the new Archer 155 mm howitzer. It's an autoloader crewed by three, and carried on a 6x6 wheeled vehicle. Norway withdrew from the program due to multiple issues with the cannon and the ammo carrier that is supposed to go with it, but in the latest budget they seem to perhaps be giving the project a second chance.
>> No. 16842 ID: b52c37
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>>16841
>> No. 16844 ID: 2ae388
File 140435386988.jpg - (210.65KB , 1280x926 , Swedish 155mm BAE Bofors BD-77 Archer artillery sy.jpg )
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The Archer has been in development for nearly 20 years (1995).
The Archer Artillery System or Archer - FH77BW L52 is an international project aimed at developing a next-generation self-propelled artillery system for Sweden and Norway. The heart of the system is a fully automated 155 mm/L52 gun howitzer and a M151 Protector remote controlled weapon station mounted on a modified 6×6 chassis of the Volvo A30D, all-terrain articulated hauler. The crew and engine compartment is armoured and the cab is fitted with bullet and fragmentation-proof windows. Aside from this, the system consists of an ammunition resupply vehicle, a support vehicle, BONUS Sensor-fused Artillery Shell and the M982 Excalibur guided projectile.

- Swedish 155mm BAE Bofors BD-77 Archer artillery system.
>> No. 16846 ID: 2ae388
File 140435402997.jpg - (85.48KB , 1024x768 , Swedish 155mm BAE Bofors FH77-BW-L52 Archer artill.jpg )
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The project began its life in 1995 as earlier studies for a self-propelled system based on the FH 77. Further test systems received the designation FH 77BD and FH 77BW. By 2004, two prototypes had been ordered based on a lengthened version of the FH 77B mounted on a modified Volvo Construction Equipment A30D dump truck (6×6 Volvo chassis). In 2008, Sweden ordered a first batch of seven units, while Norway ordered one. In August 2009, Norway and Sweden ordered 24 Archers each, in a cooperative deal.

The Howitzer was developed for the Swedish armed forces following a contract awarded to Bofors (now BAE Systems Bofors) in 2003 by Försvarets Materielverk (FMV), the Swedish defence acquisition agency to build two demonstrator howitzers. The prototype FH77 BW L52 self-propelled howitzers entered firing trials in Sweden in 2005 and 2006. In September 2006, the FMV placed a contract for detailed design work on Archer and, in January 2007, a contract for the next development phase. The Swedish Army has a requirement for 24 systems (two battalions). Following In September 2008, the Swedish government approved the final development and procurement of the Archer artillery system.

In November 2008, Sweden and Norway signed a co-operative agreement for the development of the Archer system and, in January 2009, awarded BAE Systems a contract to complete development of the artillery system with the exception of the remote weapon system which is made by Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace. A final prototype is scheduled for completion by September 2009, which is expected to be followed by a contract for 48 systems – 24 for Sweden and 24 for Norway. Archer was planned to enter service in 2011 but was delayed until October 2013. This because of unforeseen technical problems.

The Swedish Army received its first four pre-serial production FH-77 BW L52 Archer systems on 23 September 2013. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Artillery_System

- Swedish 155mm BAE Bofors FH77-BW-L52 Archer artillery system
>> No. 16847 ID: 2ae388
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>> No. 16848 ID: b52c37
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>>16844
The Arthur (Artillery Hunting Radar) has so far been a much more successful Swedish-Norwegian joint venture. It's been operational since 1999, and is operated by many NATO countries, as well as South Korea and Sweden (obviously).

It can be carried by the BV206 (pictured) the BvS10 Viking (armored variant), or a truck. As with all radars, you wouldn't want to stand on the business end of it while it's switched on.
>> No. 16850 ID: b52c37
File 140435661083.jpg - (1.48MB , 2848x2136 , Archerside_commons.jpg )
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The Archer will have the M151 PROTECTOR RWS on the cab roof for self defense as well.
>> No. 16860 ID: b338a2
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$700,000

Crew of 3 for normal operations, two optional roles for machine gunner and secondary radio operator/commander
>> No. 16861 ID: b338a2
File 140449254932.jpg - (157.51KB , 1200x800 , NORA_B52_K3.jpg )
16861
155mm

6 rpm continuous
12 rpm rapid fire

20km (30F39 Krasnopol laser guided anti tank)
31km (High explosive - Extended range full bore)
42km (HE ERFB with base bleed)
52km (HE ERFB/BB/rocket assist with 23 liter rocket chamber)
58km (HE ERFB/BB/RA 25 liter chamber)
67km (HE Velocity enhanced long range artillery projectile with 23 liter chamber)
>> No. 16862 ID: b338a2
File 140449256224.jpg - (257.08KB , 1280x857 , 1280px-Nora_B52.jpg )
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1000km total range
90kph on road
25kph country road
15kph off road
>> No. 16864 ID: b52c37
>>16860
This looks shopped. Pixels, can tell, etc.
>> No. 16866 ID: b52c37
File 140451572337.jpg - (518.06KB , 1166x776 , Am%20lastning.jpg )
16866
Let's talk about loading the gun - because basically, the gun is just the last part of a logistics chain that runs from the mines and chemical plants, via the ammo factory, into the bodies of your enemies.

The M109 Palladin, while shoot'n'scooting, and able to carry about 30 rounds + inside, can still be loaded by carrying each individual round inside and placing it in the ramming guide. This means it can be both fired from, and its ammo storage filled, from some pallet or flat rack left on the ground by a supply vehicle. The PzH2000 can also be filled up from a pallet on the ground, by placing individual shells in an automatic loading tray and carrying the powder charges inside by hand.

The Archer, however, while even more automatic than the PzH when shooting (no need to place powder by hand), the magazine filling appears awkward. First, because it appears to need more manual action than filling the magazine of a PzH, and also because this takes place so high off the ground. The demonstration videos shows shells being loaded by a supply truck with a hydraulic lifting device, but this means you need an ammo carrier per gun - you can't just put down a pallet of HE in a designated location. (Powder is not heavy - so that's not a problem.)

It also looks like it takes a longer time to fill up fewer rounds than both a Paladin and PzH. You also lose the ability, in an environment with low threat of counter-battery fires, to just load the gun while it's firing.

Ammo resupply times:
M109 Paladin: M992 FAASV conveyor delivers 8 rounds per minute. Hand stowing and set-up will slow this down, but it's basically faster than the M109's maximum rate of fire anyway.

Archer: 21 rounds in 10 minutes = 2 rounds per minute. This is far slower than its maximum rate of fire, but actually slower than its potential max sustained rate of fire as well.

I think the point is that Archer needs a better ammo carrier with the same mobility and a less awkward magazine filling procedure - and is this one of the reasons why Norway canceled its contract last fall? I wonder what arrangement they found with the Swedes that now has put Archer back on the table. The canceled XM2001 Crusader was supposed to have an ammo carrier vehicle that resupplied both its ammo stores and fuel tanks, and something like that is sorely needed by the Archer to become an effective system.
>> No. 16867 ID: b52c37
  >>16866
Here's an example of what I'm talking about: Slow shell loading.
>> No. 16868 ID: b52c37
  >>16867
PzH2000: Filling up 60 full rounds in 12 minutes = 5 per minute, with only two guys.

Compare with Archer's current loading speed of 21 rounds in 8 or 10 minutes (2 or 3 per minute), needing a high bed truck and a couple of supply soldiers.
>> No. 16869 ID: b52c37
File 140451739854.jpg - (43.91KB , 620x445 , crusader3.jpg )
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>>16866
"The XM2002 ammunition resupply vehicle, equipped with a fully automated ammunition handling system automatically transfers 48 rounds of ammunition and fuel to the howitzer in less than 12 minutes.

The XM2002 resupply vehicle itself can be fully loaded with fuel and 110 rounds of ammunition in less than 60 minutes."

So 4 rounds per minute loading speed, but you would get the bonus of refueling as well. XM2002 was canceled, and so was the XM1203 Non-Line-of-Sight Cannon. From a logistical point of view, they were so expensive to make that it would perhaps make more sense to just make more M109s, even though the MRSI capability would be cool to have, and the long set-up and strike-down times of the Paladin might get it killed by counter-battery fires. Buying the PzH2000 might seem like the logical choice, after canceling two prototypes?
>> No. 16870 ID: b52c37
File 140451765982.gif - (84.89KB , 600x358 , M992_cutaway.gif )
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>>16866
M992 Field Artillery Ammunition Supply Vehicle (FAASV), the M109's rolling magazine.
>> No. 16871 ID: b52c37
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>>16870
Haters gonna hate: Hand-carrying shells from the M992 into the M109.
>> No. 16872 ID: b52c37
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>>16871
Can't delete my post to correct the text, but he might be carrying powder(?) or training regulations require one round at a time to be placed directly in the gun. But anyway, here's the conveyor belt doing its job.
>> No. 16875 ID: 388296
>>16872

13 Bravo here; it's training regs to hand-carry one round at a time. It's not too bad, actually...
>> No. 16879 ID: 85cfa6
>>16864
It's copper that makes the green flame.

>>16867
Archer's purpose is to penetrate close to enemy lines, get the shells on target as rapidly as possible, and then drive back. MLRS does this for area targets, accurate system like Archer for point targets.
>> No. 19290 ID: cfe73e
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A Soviet SS-21 tactical short-range nuclear missile is shown for the first time in Red Square, at the Victory Day parade in Moscow, Russia on May 9, 1985.
>> No. 19293 ID: cfe73e
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A catapult launching heads at the siege of Nicaea, 1097, First Crusade.
Psychological operation to sow discord and sap morale of the castle residents by throwing the heads of their troops back into the castle.
Catapults and trebuchets were also used to throw rotten corpses of people, horses or other animals into besieged cities in order to spread disease.
>> No. 19294 ID: faf5b0
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19294
I hear you like large calibre indirect fire shooty things.

Karl-Gerät 040/041 60cm (24 inch) siege mortar
Nr. IV „Odin“ (set up as 040 in the pic)


Gerät 040: original model, armed with a short 60 centimetres (24 in) caliber barrel;
Gerät 041: later model, armed with a long (L/11.55) 54 centimetres (21 in) caliber barrel.
>> No. 19295 ID: faf5b0
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>>19294
>> No. 19296 ID: faf5b0
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>>19294
Nr. III known as "Thor", set up as a 041.

7 were produced in all, 6 operational and 1 developmental.
>> No. 19297 ID: cfe73e
  Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Release the Prisoners https://youtu.be/WCoekGTBEoo
Orcs taking tips from the above graphic of the First Crusade with Christian catapults launching heads at the siege of Nicaea, 1097.
>>19293
>> No. 19298 ID: cfe73e
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>>19294
Those self-propelled 540mm & 600mm siege mortars were fearsome things indeed.
>> No. 19299 ID: cfe73e
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That panzer converted into an ammo limber and crane could only hold four rounds for those 540mm & 600mm monsters.

Twenty-two Panzer IV Ausf. D, E and F chassis were modified with a superstructure capable of carrying four shells that replaced the turret and outfitted with a crane as Munitionsschlepper ammunition transporters/loaders. Two or three of these Munitionsschlepper were assigned to each weapon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Ger%C3%A4t
>> No. 19300 ID: cfe73e
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"Karl-Gerät" (040/041) (German literally "Karl-device"), also known as Thor and Mörser Karl, was a World War II German self-propelled siege mortar (Mörser) designed and built by Rheinmetall. Its heaviest munition was a 60 cm (24 in) diameter, 2,170 kg (4,780 lb) shell, and the range for its lightest shell of 1,250 kg (2,760 lb) was just over 10 km (6.2 mi). Each gun had to be accompanied by a crane, a heavy transport trailer, and several modified tanks to carry shells.

Seven guns were built, six of which saw combat between 1941 and 1945. It was used in attacking the Soviet fortresses of Brest-Litovsk and Sevastopol, bombarded Polish resistance fighters in Warsaw, participated in the Battle of the Bulge, and was used to try to destroy the Ludendorff Bridge during the Battle of Remagen. Only one exists today; the others were scrapped after the war.

In March 1936 Rheinmetall made a proposal for a super-heavy howitzer to attack the Maginot Line. Their initial concept was for a weapon that would be transported by several tracked vehicles and assembled on site, but the lengthy preparation time drove them to change it to a self-propelled weapon in January 1937. Extensive driving trials took place in 1938 and 1939 using the first Neubaufahrzeug tank prototype and a scale model to investigate the extremely high ground pressure and steering of such an enormous vehicle. Firing trials took place in June 1939. The full-scale driving trials were held at Unterlüss in May 1940. General Karl Becker of the Artillery was involved in the development, from whom the huge weapon gained its nickname.

In total, seven Karl-Geräte howitzers were manufactured. The first six had the nicknames "Adam" (later "Baldur"), "Eva" (later "Wotan"), "Thor", "Odin", "Loki", and "Ziu"; the seventh, the research and test weapon (Versuchs-Gerät), had no name. Delivery of the six production vehicles took place from November 1940 to August 1941.

In February 1941, discussions commenced concerning increasing the range of the weapon, and in May 1942, 54 cm barrels (Gerät 041) were ordered for the six vehicles. At a conference with Adolf Hitler in March 1943 it was stated that the first 54 cm Gerät 041 would be delivered by June 1943, and the third, by mid-August. Only three of the 54 cm barrels were actually completed and they could be mounted on Nr. I, IV, and V, although any vehicle could be converted to use the smaller weapon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Ger%C3%A4t
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The 124-ton vehicle was propelled by a Daimler-Benz MB 503 A 12-cylinder liquid-cooled gasoline engine or a MB 507 C 12-cylinder liquid-cooled diesel engine, but this was mainly used for aiming (the mount had only 4 degrees of traverse on each side), as the engines provided a top speed of only 10 km/h (6.2 mph). For longer distances the Karl-Gerät was disassembled using a special 35 t (34 long tons; 39 short tons) mobile crane into seven loads. The chassis was loaded onto a six-axle Culemeyer-Strassenroller lowboy trailer. The other parts of the gun were lighter and used four-axle trailers. If the trailer with the chassis on board had to cross a bridge that couldn't carry their combined weight the chassis had to be off-loaded and driven across under its own power. The weapon was moved long distances via rail on a variant of a Schnabel car; the whole chassis was hung between two huge pedestal-mounted swiveling arms fixed to five-axle bogies. When it reached its destination, the weapon was detached from its supporting arms, driven to its intended firing location, then the chassis was lowered to the ground to distribute the recoil forces more evenly in preparation for firing. The Karl-Gerät proved to have no problems moving over normal soil, but under no circumstances was it allowed to make turns on soft soil lest it throw a track. The chassis had to be backed into position to fire, which expedited movement to a new position, but the firing position had to be precisely leveled and the approach route prepared ahead of time to fill in soft spots and any ditches, etc. It could only be loaded at zero elevation, so it had to be re-aimed between every shot.
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German WW2 600mm Karl-Gerät self-propelled siege mortar.
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On 13 August 1944 a battery was ordered to be created immediately with one 54 cm Karl-Gerät and sent to the 9th Army to help it suppress the Warsaw Uprising. The next day the Kommando für Sonder-Geräte formed the Army Artillery Battery (Static) 638 Heeres-Artillerie Batterie (bodenständige) with 60 cm Karl-Gerät Nr. VI "Ziu" since no 54 cm weapon was available and a firing table hadn't yet been computed. It arrived at the Warsaw West train station at 0700 on 17 August 1944, although the ammunition train didn't arrive until the following morning.

On 24 August OKH noted that it had been very successful in combat and ordered another Karl-Gerät sent to Warsaw. A second battery, numbered 428, was formed 2 days later by the Kommando für Sonder-Geräte, but it didn't arrive at the Warsaw West train station until 1257 on 7 September 1944. A third Karl-Gerät 040 was shipped to Warsaw on 10 September and incorporated into Battery 428. "Ziu" needed repairs and was shipped on 22 September back to Jüterbog. At some point a fourth Karl-Gerät was shipped to Warsaw as it was reported as operational on 25 September.

- The Prudential building in Warsaw being hit by 2-ton mortar shell from a Karl-Gerät, August 24, 1944.
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Warsaw Uprising: Measuring length of 600 mm dud ammunition from "Karl" mortar. According to source number 1 and 2: in basement of "Adria" at Moniuszki 10 street on August 18. According th source number 3 in basement of Prudential building at Napoleon Square on August 30.
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Mörser Karl Ziu in tank museum Kubinka Russia.
Looks like the name is 'Adam'
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Mörser Karl at the Tank Museum, Kubinka
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>> No. 19311 ID: cfe73e
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Or just pester everyone with these 50mm mortars.
- German WW2 5cm leichter Granatenwerfer 36 (5 cm leGrW 36) light mortar.
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Having lots of well-trained light mortar squads can really score up enemy casualties.
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German mortar team (5cm leichter Granatwerfer 36) entering a building. Soldier on left is carrying the barrel, the soldier in center is carrying the base-plate. Soldier on right holding a MG 34, 1941.
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The German team of mortar 5 cm Gr. W. 36 of Panzer-Division «Feldherrnhalle» (up to December 1944 Panzer Grenadier Division «Feldherrnhalle») are firing at the enemy in a training battle.

For more information:
5-cm company mortar model 1936. In 1936 was established by Raynmetall and was intended to engage unsheltered manpower. By the beginning of the war in army had 5914 mortars. Manufacture of mortars discontinued in 1943. The mortar was very compact, one person can carry it by the handle. Barrel length – 46.5 cm. Weight in firing position – 14 kg. Rate of up to 20 rounds per minute. Type of mine – 5 cm fragmentation Wgr.36. Muzzle velocity, m / s – 75. Firing range of 60 to 520 meters. Weight 0.91 kg mines. http://albumwar2.com/german-mortar-of-panzer-division-feldherrnhalle-in-action/
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The U.S. M2 60 mm mortar was developed from the heavier 81 mm M1 Mortar to provide a lighter-weight alternative to company-level fire support. The M2 attempted to bridge the gap between the 81 mm mortar and the hand grenade. Normally employed by the weapons platoon of a U.S. infantry company, the M2 is of the usual mortar pattern of the day. It consists of a smoothbore metal tube on a rectangular baseplate, supported by a simple bipod with the elevation and traverse mechanisms. The firing pin was fixed in the base cap of the tube, and the bomb was fired automatically when it dropped down the barrel. Though classed as a light mortar, the M2 had considerable range compared to the 50 mm and 60 mm mortars of most other nations, and its fixed-firing pin design allowed a high rate of fire by trained crews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_mortar

- World War II era 60 mm U.S. M2 Mortar, G.I. helmet shown for scale.
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Each mortar shell had a screw-on cap in its base. Inside the hollow in the tail, it contained a 20-gauge M5A1 Ignition Cartridge. This was a paper shotgun shell filled with ballistite powder.

The mortar had a firing pin in the bottom of the tube. When the shell was dropped down the tube, the firing pin struck the Ignition Cartridge in the shell's tail, detonating it. When the cartridge detonated, the explosive gases exited the base of the shell through two bleed holes. This propelled the shell out of the tube in an arc. Unassisted, the mortar shell had a range of about 200 to 325 yards.

To increase the mortar's range, bags of booster charges were fastened to the tailfins with clips. Up to four bags could be fitted to the shell's tail, extending the maximum range to about 2,000 yards (depending on the shell's length and weight).

- M4 Collimator sight, used for both indirect fire and direct lay missions.
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60mm mortar shells for the U.S. M2 Mortar.
Left-to-Right: M69 Training/Practice, M49A2 High Explosive, M302 White Phosphorus/Smoke, M83 Illuminating (parachute flare)
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81mm mortar crew in action at Camp Carson, Colorado, April 24, 1943.
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U.S. WWII Model of M2, 60mm Mortar. The whole set includes; M5 bipod (dated 1945), Tube, Baseplate and the M4 Sight in its brown leather case (not shown). http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=106473
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Strap, Carrying, M1 In Use with Pad, Shoulder, M2 http://www.90thidpg.us/Equipment/Weapons/81Backpack/index.html
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>> No. 19333 ID: 9aea35
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I think they were replaced by rifle grenades, grenade launchers, and RPGs

Like the RAW, which was very accurate due to spin stabilization
Similar to why a .45 can theoretically be more accurate than a .22, the length to width ratio
>> No. 19334 ID: 9aea35
It could hit moving trucks at 300m
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An offset angle to the launch also kept the trajectory rather flat, as the exhaust compensated for drop somewhat
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It featured a primitive yet ingenious optical fuse, and multiple mission modes
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By the way are RPGs in general considered artillery? It's technically a recoilless gun/rocket hybrid...

Related rifle launched version
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>>19334
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how about a look at this thing for giggles
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>>19350
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Two French Army Giat GCT 155mm (155mm AUF1) self-propelled guns, 40th Regiment d' Artillerie, with IFOR markings are parked at Hekon base, near Mostar, Bosnia-Herzegovina, in support of Operation Joint Endeavor.
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Our artillery... The Germans feared it almost more than anything we had.
- Ernie Pyle, Brave Men (1944)
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And what is the modern war, it's an interesting question, what it requires? It requires massive artillery. In modern warfare, artillery is a god... Artillery, massive artillery decides the fate of the war.
- Josef Stalin (1940)
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"The poorer the infantry, the more artillery it needs; the American infantry needs all it can get."
- French General Koechlin-Schwartz, speaking to U.S. General George S. Patton on two occasions. "The Patton Papers, 1940-1945"; George Smith Patton, Martin Blumenson; Houghton Mifflin (1972); pp.520-521.
>> No. 19433 ID: fd0828
I don't have cool pictures of artillery doing cool shit but this thread has inspired me to dig out my copy of From the Earth to the Moon. The Baltimore Gun Club could be composed of all OpChan members. I just wonder which of us would be Impey Barbicane.
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>> No. 19531 ID: 667a5a
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>>19367
Post more cute cannons!
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>>19531
OK.
- US .22 caliber 1 to 100 scale model baby cannon, 1933.
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US WW2 75mm M1 Pack Howitzer (post-war designation M116).
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US WW2 75mm M8 (Scott) Howitzer Motor Carriage.
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105mm light gun on tow behind a Pinzgauer.
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Another light gun on the deck of HMS Bulwark. Photo ruined by some normal walking in front of my camera.
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AS90 155mm SPG, taken at Stirling Armed forces day 2014.
>> No. 19837 ID: a4acc8
>>19819
Look at him smiling.
"durrr are you taking a picture of me?"

No faggot MOVE!
>> No. 19895 ID: 4aaaa0
  Jahannam (Hell) Cannon: The cannon barrel is about 3 feet long, mounted on wheels and towed. It is muzzle loaded. Explosive powder such as ammonium nitrate is first dropped into the muzzle and ramrodded with a wooden stick.

The projectile is a re-purposed gas cylinder filled with explosives and shrapnel (the payload). Welded to the payload is about a 2 foot metal tube (the tail) about the same circumference as the cannon's muzzle. The full length of the tail is inserted into the muzzle, forming a tight seal inside the cannon. The payload remains outside the muzzle but still attached to the tail now inside the cannon. When the cannon is fired, the force of the explosion takes the path of least resistance pushing the projectile towards the target at high velocity. Flight stabilizing fins which are part of the tail ensemble ensure the cylinder doesn't tumble.

The projectile weighs up to about 88 pounds with three quarters of the weight as explosives. The projectile reportedly has a range of 1.5 kilometers.

There are believed to be 20 such cannons as of December 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_artillery_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
https://youtu.be/TdGDIegH1S8
>> No. 19896 ID: 4aaaa0
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That Syrian Civil War thread in /w/ is locked.
- An improvised mortar in Syria with a projectile fashioned from a gas cylinder.
Very much like spigot launchers such as trench mortars or anti-submarine hedgehogs that were mounted on the bows of WW2 destroyers.
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Quad Hell Cannon:
A quad hell cannon fired four Hell Cannons at once. However, the model was reportedly no longer manufactured after it was bombed by a military helicopter during the battle of Ard al-Hamra. However, an April 2015 video showed a quad hell cannon being used by the Levant Front in the province of Aleppo, in the village of Paschkoa (ar). It was mounted on a front-loading earth mover. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_artillery_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
>> No. 19898 ID: 4aaaa0
  And here's the tractor-mounted quad hell cannon in action.
The video does not show if the tractor was used to "shoot-and-scoot" and move the cannon quickly away after firing so that counter-battery fire cannot easily destroy the cannon.
https://youtu.be/1v1jeZymwPE
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The DIY community in Syria is just amazing.
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I bet they would love to get their hands on a few of these beauties.
The 2S35 Koalytsia-SV is the latest Russian artillery system. It was developed as a successor to the 2S19 Msta-S. First demonstrator of this self-propelled howitzer was completed in 2006. It was unique and had two 152-mm guns. However for some reason twin-barrel design was abandoned. In 2013 a new prototype of the Koalitsiya-SV was completed. It had a different design and only one gun. A first batch of 12 artillery systems was delivered to the Russian Army in 2015. Currently it is one of the most capable howitzers in the world.
Even though the Koalitsiya-SV resembles the older 2S19 Msta-S, it is a totally different system. It has unmanned turret and is armed with a 152-mm gun. It has a fully automated ammunition loading and handling system and utilizes modular charge system. This artillery system can fire a wide range of munitions, including standard and rocket-assisted HE-FRAG projectiles, cluster projectiles with anti-tank submunitions, jammer carrying projectiles. Range of fire with standard projectile is around 30 km and around 40 km with rocket-assisted projectile. A new long-range precision-guided round has been developed. It has a maximum range of 70 km. The Koalitsiya-SV It is also capable of firing older Krasnopol precision guided munitions with a range of 20 km.
Maximum rate of fire is around 8 rounds per minute. It seems that the Koalitsiya-SV is capable of multiple round simultaneous impact firing. This artillery system carries impressive onboard ammunition supply of around 60 to 70 rounds.
The Koalitsiya-SV has a high level of automation. It allowed to reduce the crew. This artillery system is operated by a crew of only 3 soldiers.
This artillery system has got no dedicated reloading vehicle, but there is a built-in ammunition reloading system at the rear of the turret that allows to load ammunition from resupply truck. http://www.military-today.com/artillery/top_10_self_propelled_howitzers.htm
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152mm self-propelled gun 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV (in the streets of Moscow on the way to or from the Red Square) 9 May 2015
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The 2S35 is expected to have a very high level of automation that will dramatically reduce the crew number, to perhaps just two or three people located in an armored capsule below the two front hull hatches.

Armament - Initial reports describe the main armament as a 2A88 152 mm gun with a range of up to 70 kilometers using precision-guided rounds and up to 40km with standard rounds that are currently used on Msta-S. The claimed average rate of fire is around 16 rounds per minute,(15+) with a maximum rate of 20 rounds per minute. 2S35's rate of fire was improved due to the new pneumatic loader. Estimated ammunition load is around 60-70 rounds and using a special loader vehicle the recharge time for full ammunition load is 15 minutes. The 2S35 will feature a modular ammunition charge system, which allows to change the amount of propellant used in firing of each individual shell.

The secondary armament equiped on 2S35 is a 12.7 mm X 108 mm ZiD Kord Remote weapon station.

Unified command-and-control - The 2S35 is not a classic SPG, but rather a highly robotised complex, with a high degree of automation. The 2S35 has a unified command-and-control system with which all actions are displayed. The system can automatically select the appropriate shell type for a task and the amount of charge required.

The turret is fully digital and can be controlled remotely through the unified command-and-control system. In the future, the turret may be placed on chassis of the T-14 Armata.

Mobility - The 2S35 was initially reported as being based on the Armata Universal Combat Platform, which in the case of the T-14 Armata and T-15 has seven road wheels. However, the 2S35's on display during the 2015 Moscow Victory Day Parade and its rehearsals are not built on the Armata platform but rather on a six-wheeled platform that appears to be a T-90 derived chassis, and later production variants are expected to be based on the unified Armata chassis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S35_Koalitsiya-SV
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>> No. 19905 ID: 4aaaa0
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AMX-30 Pluton tank in the Musée des Blindés, France.
The Pluton missile was a French nuclear-armed short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) system launched from a transporter erector launcher (TEL) platform mounted on an AMX 30 tank chassis. It was designed to provide the tactical part of French nuclear deterrence during the Cold War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluton_(missile)
Warhead: Nuclear 15 kt of TNT or Nuclear 25 kt of TNT or Conventional High-Explosive
Engine: Single-stage solid
Operational range: 120 km
Speed: 1100 m/s
Guidance system: Inertial
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The Škoda 30.5cm Mörser M.11 used by the Austro-Hungarians during the Siege of Belgrade in WWI and the Yugoslav Royal Army postwar, part of Belgrade Military Museum outer exhibition at the Kalemegdan fortress.
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Looks like posting in this old thread won't bump it to the front page.
- German WW2 artillery at Utah Beach, Sainte-Marie-du-Mont, France.
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