Torchlight 2. Coop oriented, cheap, and very reminiscent of Diablo 2.

>>57536
Diablo 3 is apparently pretty good now too, but I haven't picked it up myself.

Grim Dawn also just left early access and is basically Titan Quest 2: Grimdark Boogaloo.

>>57536
I remember reading about that game I think.

>>57561
I've played D3 semi-recently (not the newest patch however). Way better than at launch I've got to say.

  Path of Exile, its free, no pay2win, and its basically D2 on adderall. Also a whole new expansion introducing a new Act and prestige classes comes out tomorrow.

>>57563
I can fully back this suggestion. Its a fantastic fucking game.

KL-E-O is probably my favorite character in the game. And Cricket.

>>57470
I liked Cricket until I read....spoiler alert....that she was an Institute spy. Pretty much all the Caravan people are. And snitches get stitches.

I may not like the Railroad, that Watts woman from Fallout 3 being a cunt kinda soured that relationship for me and the F4 RR with their "help synths, fuck humans" attitude doesn't do them any favors, but I like the Institute even less.

At their very core they are kidnappers. The game starts with them kidnapping your kid. Throughout the game you hear about dozens of people who have been replaced. You run into a person being replaced. Thats fucked up. They are killing people and replacing them with slave copies that they don't even have the decency to care about.

And thats not all. That doesn't even get into the probably hundreds of people they kidnapped and experimented on with FEV. People that once infected they just tossed out into the Commonwealth creating the current super mutant menace there.

Then there is the whole towns they wiped out with their earlier robit synths. Places like University Point and various settlements they launch raids on. People in those settlements they replace.

So anyone who works with the Institute willingly is the enemy.

>>57472
Ahhh spoilers. I'm only 161 hours into the game!

Actually I just came back from Deadpool with some friends. €14 for a ticket, large popcorn and coke. So I'll buy Firewatch when it's (20-14) €6 on sale haha

Great film by the way.


More seriously though, I don't mind games that are on the line of possibly being in the wrong medium. Just as long as it is very clear what kind of game it will be so the consumer can make a good decision with their vidja bux.

Cinematic is a very annoying term though, usually just means "are game's a bit shit and wont have good frame rates".

>>57451
>I can go to a matinee showing of Deadpool with a burger lunch and a beer delivered to my seat and pay the same, if not a dollar more than Firewatch at MSRP.

Yes, that's what I was getting at. You can go see a 2hr movie in theaters, or play a game like Firewatch, which is essentially an interactive movie, for 4-6.

>Firewatch is a game with all the right elements poorly executed

Nothing is really poorly executed about it other than the fact that it isn't long enough to really be good value compared to other videogames.

>>57454
>nothing poor about it
well that's your subjective view, but then you go on and admit that...

>isn't...good value compared to other videogames.

Exactly his point. It's failed at it's medium; and intended audience. This is the same reason 10 or 15 minute cartoons at movie theaters, and you don't have a waiter at McDonald's.

>>57455

>It's failed at it's medium

There isn't a correct way to use a creative medium. That's a non-sequitur. Barnett Newman and Van Gogh are both equally successful and critically acclaimed painters and to rail against that is just to be bitter that history got written without your input.

Firewatch has recieved glowing reviews from both critical reviewers and players, and no doubt been commercially successful, so really it's egotistical to say that it's failed anyone other than the handful of people that wanted a more traditional videogame experience.

>>57428
But like >>57424 said, adventure games tend to use puzzles just to pad out game length (and pre-GameFAQs, make more money off of players), take for example, the maple syrup cat hair mustache in Gabriel Knight 3, or (IIRC) the hidden fusion reactor you need to solve a puzzle in a Space Quest game that is never once mentioned beforehand.

>>57397
Game AI have an OODA loop it's just really fast, that's why speedrunning games works. It's worse on modern games for some reason.

I think you just about got inside the AI OODA loop.

>>57408
I actually had similar results on that one. More wounded due to grenade hits, but most of my "reinforcements" never even got to engage, despite my original six being so badly outnumbered.

I honestly think the AI just isn't very good at dealing with a relatively large head to head engagement where both parties know what they're running into.

Finished the game on commander. Had to retry the last mission several times to get shit done.

While some people seem to love hacking oriented specialists, I've had horrendous fucking luck with them (even when using the skulljack to boost hacking stats). In the end game, I'd probably just take an extra magi instead.
Maybe it's just my horrendous luck with the RNG, but even with double hacking stat to the hacking difficulty, I still got owned constantly when hacking.

I doubt I'll continue playing XCOM2 (though I will no doubt play the expansion when it's out). I played XCOM:EU/EW many times through, but I won't with XCOM2.

>>57443
Mages and tech-priests are the two best units in the game. Mages can double your team. The other powers like null lance and soul fire, combat protocol, capacitor discharge all ignore armor.

I breezed through the last mission without any of my team even being hit. When you have a gatekeeper, three archons, and a sectopod you don't really have to worry that much about anything.

>>57444

My little tech priest had 160 or 165 hacking skill and he did not do any successful hack throughout the entire fucking mission.
Must be just my luck.
My magi on the other hand kick serious ass.

Also, your Sectopod would leave your control in a few rounds... Mind controlled enemies don't. (though you can get many hacks for only one mind control)

One of my friends was trying to explain to me that a different team worked on Dark Souls 2. The original dark souls team was doing bloodborn at the time. So friend thinks dark souls 3 will be good.

>>57441
Pretty much spot on. So far, it looks like Dark Souls 3 will take significantly after Bloodborne but with Dark Souls 1's art direction. Granted, everything seems way too fast, IE a Wandering Knight with the Greatsword in the stress-test has no problem fast-rolling. It's probably going to change in the actual game, but I fear the first few months will be as bad as Dark Souls 1 when the Darkwood Grain Ring allowed everyone to flip.

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>>57205
Hardcore mode alone was fucking OP in New vegas.

While I do feel like it wouldn't be as necessary in Boston, because boston is more built up, it was still an excellent game mechanic that made you feel alot less like a badass and alot more like a vulnerable meatbag who could quite easily get fucked up - while not making enemies bullet sponges.
In contrast I hate fallout 4's higher difficulties - Bullet sponge enemy garbage

  Been playing Call of Chernobyl lately with the Warfare mod and Arsenal Overhaul mod. HOLY SHIT THIS IS GREAT

>Choose Military
>Grab some soldiers to follow me
>Go through Yantar
>OH SHIT EMISSION
>Get into Dead City
>MERCS EVERYWHERE
>Call in support and 3 squads show up
>Fighting Grozni style until it crashes

When did CoC release get unfucked? I remember having loads of fun with the leak, but release felt broken in many regards, especially the economy.

  >>57368

Since Arsenal Overhaul and Warfare mods were made compatible for it.

Started up a game as a Bandit.

I am the Cheeki

I am the Breeki

Theres nothing unplayable about any of the C&C games.

OpenRA is a fucking awful piece of shit.

>>57366

Except for the part where a bunch of them have issues running on newer operating systems and the fact that running a game at low res 4:3 on high resolution widescreen monitors (see: anything made in the last decade) is a fucking massive eyesore.

But you can be a contrarian if you want to, that's fine too.

>>57398
Nigga those games run fine on win10 at any resolution, bar some visual glitches when the map is smaller than the res.

>>57421

You're wrong, even a cursory Google search would show you that. Speaking personally, Tiberian Sun doesn't render any menus, which is a known issue for a lot of people, caused by some shit Nvidia driver released in the last 8 months. I have seen no shortage of other issues as well, and Tiberian Sun + W10 has so many issues it isn't even funny. Also, just because they can be forced to run 16:9 high resolutions doesn't mean it comes without bugs like shit being cropped out of the screen because of it.

And you still haven't explained what exactly is wrong with OpenRA, which makes me think you're just being contrarian instead of offering any actually valid justification for that opinion.

  This is pretty sick. I've been looking for a working torrent for the C&C for awhile but to no avail. Been wanting to LAN them with buddies. I don't have the CD's anymore and last thing I'm going to do is download EA's piece of shit software and pay them to get it. The fact it comes with Dune too is just icing on the cake.

Thanks OP.

There's supposed to be a beta later this month. Make an account on their site and get registered for it, if you haven't already.

>>57228
That behaviour seems pretty standard for modern society.

>>57240
Yeah man, in 5 they all just run up and say the same thing 'looks like we're too late', stand for a bit, then drive away, every time.

The thing I really hate about GTA V that is relevant here is that basically any damage to a pedestrian kills them. Even the taser is lethal, ridiculously enough.

Meanwhile, in GTA IV, you could shoot a cop until he fell and writhed in agony on the ground and sometimes they would actually get back up. I wish more games would have dynamic health of NPCs. Perhaps leave it so that a proper headshot is instant and guaranteed death, but let the NPCs absorb hits sometimes and struggle and adapt. Instead of a rifle bullet to the leg killing a guy, have him crawl and roll around while still being a threat.

>>57326
So true, GTA 4 was great for that. People would often 'wake up' after being knocked out if it wasn't from gunfire or an explosion, meanwhile in 5 you hit some one once and they basically die. I think the physics engine had alot to do with it too.

I hope R* sees this video and literally takes notes.

>>57240
I remember when it was only on PS3/360, that the police would actually take quite a few shots to go down, and most of the time, would sit up and keep shooting, and another one, would come form behind a car/cover, and try to drag the injured one back...what ever happened to that after the next-gen/PC release? I never saw them do it after that.